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[innocentvillager]

actually Anya can probably go in the Luca, Gypyx tier

[innocentvillager]

Alice/Ico is kind of a weird pairing idk

I think Alice moving Ico from top town to kind of in her PoE and Ico calling her out on it might be not-partnery.

[Anya]

alice burrowed deep underground when the helicopter spotlight came her way

[Anya]

actually Anya can probably go in the Luca, Gypyx tier

outrageously rude

luca and gypyx deserve better than that

[Luca Blight]

I don’t get why I’m still low in your reads, IV

[VP Baltar]

I don’t get why I’m still low in your reads, IV

I also find this silly. Luca is obvtown

[VP Baltar]

There is almost no way scum tries that hard in a game like this. The scum play here would be to feed the apathy and inactivity, not try to counteract it

[Iconeum]

why as scum wouldn't i just let town!anya die it makes ZERO sense to me

im not great at scum but im not a fucking idiot

why do you get to make this argument but i don't?

[Iconeum]

there's probably scum in {Alice, Ico} for that weird exchange between them though. i feel like Ico weirdly moving into Alice's PoE is weird but im not sure if that should implicate Alice or if it's just a convenient push by scum!ico

then push alice with me and let's find out

[Gypyx]

i'd be willing to do in {Alice / IV} today for the record

although imo there's like no way that's the team

[AliceK]

I am not sure why you think my read transition on Ico is weird. It's actually very simple. I was townreading Ico, because of his early paranoid tone (slightly for that) and because he looked very committed to my elimination (mainly for that). I just couldn't see why would scum do it. You quick-hammer a town member it draws a lot of attention to yourself which as scum you would like to avoid. There was no one else in imminent danger, so it wasn't protecting a scumbuddy. Just doesn't stick to scumagenda to do so.

Now GB's wagon. The problem of scums in these kind of situations is hesitation of what to do. I can see Town doing one of 2 things: hard committing to one of the wagons (doesn't matter which) or just ignore it. Iconeum was a third type: interested in voting someone, but not sure who (he was considering GB and Anya, but didn't vote any of them). I am actually not buying it. He was probably waiting for opportunity to save GB. Maybe waiting for GB to claim PR.

2nd point >>> 1 point, that's why I am scumreading Ico now

[AliceK]

About gypex he was pressured to stay on GB's wagon by Luca and Datisi. Point was that he had no good reason to vote GB.

[AliceK]

Finally IV, has a similar eod to Ico, but after hammer he made few weird posts which I can't interpret which alignment it can be, so I would say he is slightly scummy.

Town members I have right now are Not_Mafia, NorwegianBoy, gerain, Luca, VP. No idea on Anya.

[Iconeum]

I am not sure why you think my read transition on Ico is weird. It's actually very simple. I was townreading Ico, because of his early paranoid tone (slightly for that) and because he looked very committed to my elimination (mainly for that). I just couldn't see why would scum do it. You quick-hammer a town member it draws a lot of attention to yourself which as scum you would like to avoid. There was no one else in imminent danger, so it wasn't protecting a scumbuddy. Just doesn't stick to scumagenda to do so.

Now GB's wagon. The problem of scums in these kind of situations is hesitation of what to do. I can see Town doing one of 2 things: hard committing to one of the wagons (doesn't matter which) or just ignore it. Iconeum was a third type: interested in voting someone, but not sure who (he was considering GB and Anya, but didn't vote any of them). I am actually not buying it. He was probably waiting for opportunity to save GB. Maybe waiting for GB to claim PR.

2nd point >>> 1 point, that's why I am scumreading Ico now

only ur completely wrong/lying about the part that I didn't vote any of GB/anya
and if your story is that i wanted to save GB, why did I end up putting him over the edge instead of hard committing to anya?

unless you think the scumteam is exactly the 3 of us?

[Iconeum]

like

you scumread me for 'being interested in voting someone without voting', which is just a false statement
you'd townread me if i hard committed to a wagon? So why weren't you townreading me for my committment to the anya wagon?

i only switched near the end IIRC

[innocentvillager]

There is almost no way scum tries that hard in a game like this. The scum play here would be to feed the apathy and inactivity, not try to counteract it

why as scum wouldn't i just let town!anya die it makes ZERO sense to me

im not great at scum but im not a fucking idiot

why do you get to make this argument but i don't?

VP you realize how incredibly tilting it is to read this from my perspective yeah? I spent so much effort yesterday and yet I’m getting universally PoE’d

[innocentvillager]

I don’t get why I’m still low in your reads, IV

I also find this silly. Luca is obvtown

Meant to quote this one not the Ico post

[innocentvillager]

why as scum wouldn't i just let town!anya die it makes ZERO sense to me

im not great at scum but im not a fucking idiot

why do you get to make this argument but i don't?

because I did it first when Anya was clearly about to die

You voted Anya over George initially but then switched when it was more clear people were losing inteeest in anya

[innocentvillager]

Also, despite how much effort I put into this game for at various points, I’m not sure how you’re getting effort =/= scum here in general

[Luca Blight]

Can you explain your read progression on me please

[Luca Blight]

Also why do you no longer Tr gypyx

[Luca Blight]

@luca any thoughts on gypyx's suspicion of me?

i don't really think it spews him as either alignment"

I kind of agree. I guess I feel a little better for his explanation, but the whole thing still doesn't sit great with me

[Luca Blight]

I'm considering all of these players town for now:

Not_Mafia, Norwee, Baltar
geraint

That leaves:

Gypyx
Iconeum
innocentvillager
Anya
AliceK

Right now I'm really not sure who I want yeeted out of this lot. I have a little time now so I'll go through the suspects and see if anything jumps out

[Luca Blight]

also apparently the only way to get gera to play the game is to push his SR's or something

VOTE: george

I think I was meaning to ask this earlier but forgot:

gypyx, why did you maintain your vote on George even when geraint strongly opposed the George wagon, when your very reason for being on the wagon was basically to sheep geraint?

[Iconeum]

weekend vla

is near