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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:52 am

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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:52 am

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What if pawn e2 takes pawn f3 and then king moves up next turn?
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:53 am

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Nah rook goes down then
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:55 am

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i am confident enough that whatever solution gypyx came up with can be debunked by at least 1 move by black in between that I will wager 1 point on it.
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:55 am

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i have tried everything
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:55 am

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Have you tried stalling?
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:56 am

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In post 353, DkKoba wrote:i am confident enough that whatever solution gypyx came up with can be debunked by at least 1 move by black in between that I will wager 1 point on it.
I can pm you the solution if you'd like to formally give up but everyone else should get their fair chance at it.
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:57 am

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In post 356, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 353, DkKoba wrote:i am confident enough that whatever solution gypyx came up with can be debunked by at least 1 move by black in between that I will wager 1 point on it.
I can pm you the solution if you'd like to formally give up but everyone else should get their fair chance at it.
sure
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:59 am

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Is DK allowed to tell us if they were right?
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:00 am

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DK shouldn't spoil it for anyone what the solution is.
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:01 am

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I meant right about the solution being disabled by black's move
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:07 am

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Sure Koba can say that
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:08 am

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lmao I keep "solving it" in 2, then I'm like, no that wouldn't work, black takes a turn... yeah idk
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:10 am

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I wonder if it's a trick somehow and we're actually playing as black trying to checkmate white, it's just white's turn
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:11 am

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smart thinking flow!!
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:12 am

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yeah ummm black isn't checkmating white anytime soon
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:13 am

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there's a BS mechanic that i wasn't aware of that works >.>
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:16 am

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lmao if that's the case, I'm not solving it, I barely know chess... lol
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:23 am

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En passant & casteling are like the only 2 mechanics I can think of
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:25 am

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You can't do either of them in 2 moves though
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:32 am

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I mean Queen d2, knight D2, castle is a win, but I don't think the knight has to capture there
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:36 am

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Are we allowed to self-capture?
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:48 am

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The progression from 175-179 is pretty town indicative and difficult to emulate.

Virgo asks if Andante is experienced at mafia, which I also wondered and which most people probably wondered. Andante doesn't make two posts, but doesn't answer
As scum I would expect virgo to re-assert the question. Letting the question get dropped is "scummy" for being disingenuous (but at the tack of analysis I'm taking doesn't actually indicate a scum alignment).

Virgo continues reading and or thinking during the five minutes that Andante didn't address the question and comes up with a different conclusion, even though the experience data point never came in. This points a lot to deductive instead of inductive reasoning patterns, a buzzword the_worst uses about taking a stance where the evidence leads you vs. taking a stance, then making sure you can fit the evidence to align with it. The request for information would create a pause in a development of new stances for scum!virgo induction but is less consequential for town!Virgo's deductions since the reread of what Andante already posted can stand on its own meaning

It's hard to ask if someone is experienced as scum and not plan out what to do with either answer
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:57 am

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Idk if is in bugspray's scumrange it's pretty schnazzy
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:05 am

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is a smothermate style puzzle, the few legal moves of black's pieces gives this away. So you want to look at nothing burger moves when it's a smothermate type puzzle, like Qb2. Qb2 does it. Black King can't move. If the knight moves, Kd2++. If the rook moves, the queen can move past it for h8++. If the f pawn captures, then light square diagonal checks become possible, and Qb7++
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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