The List - Winner revealed!

[Silverclaw]

Also patently hilarious

[kdowns]

Also patently hilarious

How the hell did you go out on the pokemon challenge

[Noraa]

I'M FREEEE

as a bird!

[Silverclaw]

Also patently hilarious

How the hell did you go out on the pokemon challenge

I didn't doubt check my answers.

[D3f3nd3r]

And with that we move onto the other part of our evening, the Lists.

Spoiler: First up, Cephrir chooses to save...

Noraa!

Spoiler: Xalxe chooses to save...

MURDERCAT!

Spoiler: Racefan12 chooses to save...

Save the Dragons!

Spoiler: And Xofelf chooses to save...

Raya36!

Which means, Aronis, the Lists have spoken.

New round, new lists! Due tomorrow at 10pm EDT ((expired on 2021-05-02 22:00:00)).

[Noraa]

Jar jar

[D3f3nd3r]

Round 4 Challenge: Daily Fantasy Challenge

It’s time for a challenge years in the making...the Daily Fantasy Challenge! For those of you that don’t know, Daily Fantasy Sports are based on the building of a lineup of athletes across several teams, playing in different matches of a given sport on the same day. Each athlete scores points for their individual stats (things like hits and RBIs in baseball, or yards gained in football), and the person that makes the roster that scores the most points wins. Generally this is played as pseudo-gambling with cash buy-ins and prizes, but today we’ll be playing it for safety! (This challenge has been reviewed by everyone's favorite DFS expert, pickemgenius.)

(Yes, I’m really just hoping that the reason MLS flopped was because you had to spend two weeks making a roster whereas this is only a couple days.)

Please don't hate me, I've been asking for someone to do this in a game for five years and nobody has done it, so here I am

The slate we’ll be using for this competition is the slate of three NBA games

starting at 8pm EDT on Tuesday, May 4

. The matchups occurring on this day and at this time are as follows:

Golden State Warriors @ New Orleans Pelicans
Dallas Mavericks @ Miami Heat
Sacramento Kings @ Oklahoma City Thunder

Scoring criteria are as follows:

Points scored: 1 point each
Assists: 1.5 points each
Blocks: 3 points each
Rebounds: 1.2 points each
Steals: 3 points each
Turnovers: -1 point each

You are to assemble a six-athlete roster that includes one athlete from each of the following positions, and then one additional athlete of any position (a “utility player”). The sum of their salaries must not exceed

$40,000

(however, they can be less than this if desired). You must select

exactly six

athletes, you may not select more or fewer. Additionally, you may not select more than three athletes playing on the same team. The list of available athletes is as follows. (This list is a selection of the active athletes on each team playing in the slate and ideally targets the best athletes at each position.)

Spoiler: List of Players by Position

Point Guard:

Luka Doncic, Mavericks, $10600
Steph Curry, Warriors, $9700
Lonzo Ball, Pelicans, $7000
Kendrick Nunn, Heat, $5700
Delon Wright, Kings, $5400
Theo Maledon, Thunder, $5000
Goran Dragic, Heat, $4800
Trey Burke, Mavericks, $4700
Jordan Poole, Warriors, $3800
Gabe Vincent, Heat, $3500
Kira Lewis, Pelicans, $3500
Nico Mannion, Warriors, $3500
Jahmi’us Ramsey, Kings, $3500

Shooting Guard:

Tyrese Haliburton, Kings, $7600
Andrew Wiggins, Warriors, $6900
Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Pelicans, $6800
Victor Oladipo, Heat, $5500
Tim Hardaway, Mavericks, $5200
Jalen Brunson, Mavericks, $4900
Eric Bledsoe, Pelicans, $4900
Tyler Herro, Heat, $4900
Ty Jerome, Thunder, $4400
Duncan Robinson, Heat, $4100
Terence Davis, Kings, $4000
Svi Mykhailiuk, Thunder, $3900
Charlie Brown, Thunder, $3500
Wes Iwundu, Pelicans, $3500
Justin James, Kings, $3500

Small Forward:

Jimmy Butler, Heat, $9800
Brandon Ingram, Pelicans, $7500
Buddy Hield, Kings, $6800
Kelly Oubre, Warriors, $6600
Luguentz Dort, Thunder, $5900
Dorian Finney-Smith, Mavericks, $5600
Kent Bazemore, Warriors, $5400
Josh Richardson, Mavericks, $4500
Naji Marshall, Pelicans, $4200
Mychal Mulder, Warriors, $3800
Kendrich Williams, Thunder, $3800
Andre Iguodala, Heat, $3700
Gabriel Deck, Thunder, $3600
Jaylen Hoard, Thunder, $3500
KZ Okpala, Heat, $3500
Louis King, Kings, $3500
Tyler Bey, Mavericks, $3500
Maurice Harkless, Kings, $3500
James Nunnally, Pelicans, $3500

Power Forward:

Zion Williamson, Pelicans, $8900
Draymond Green, Warriors, $7600
Kristaps Porzingis, Mavericks, $7500
Harrison Barnes, Kings, $6700
Darius Bazley, Thunder, $6400
Isaiah Roby, Thunder, $5900
Trevor Ariza, Heat, $4800
Marvin Bagley, Kings, $4600
Aleksej Pokusevski, Thunder, $4300
James Johnson, Pelicans, $4000
Juan Toscano-Anderson, Warriors, $3700
Nicolo Melli, Mavericks, $3600
Jaxson Hayes, Pelicans, $3600
Tony Bradley, Thunder, $3500
Nemanja Bjelica, Heat, $3500
Precious Achiuwa, Heat, $3500
Maxi Kleber, Mavericks, $3500
Alen Smailagic, Warriors, $3500

Center:

Bam Adebayo, Heat, $8300
Richaun Holmes, Kings, $6900
Moses Brown, Thunder, $5300
Steven Adams, Pelicans, $4700
Willy Hernangomez, Pelicans, $4700
Hassan Whiteside, Kings, $4200
Dewayne Dedmon, Heat, $3800
Damian Jones, Kings, $3700
Kevon Looney, Warriors, $3700
Dwight Powell, Mavericks, $3500
Willie Cauley-Stein, Mavericks, $3500
Boban Marjanovic, Mavericks, $3500
Eric Paschall, Warriors, $3500

An example lineup would be:

PG:

Nico Mannion, Warriors, $3500

SG:

Josh Green, Mavericks, $3500

SF:

Louis King, Kings, $3500

PF:

Precious Achiuwa, Heat, $3500

C:

Willie Cauley-Stein, Mavericks, $3500

UTIL:

Eric Paschall, Warriors, $3500
(This lineup is intentionally awful; if you submit it as your own you almost certainly will finish in last.)

Rosters are due via PM at the start of the slate, 8pm on Tuesday ((expired on 2021-05-04 20:00:00)). You may submit as many times as you’d like; I will take only your last submission before the deadline. Once all games conclude, I will tally up the score for each roster, and the player with the highest-scoring roster will win the challenge. Should there be a tie, the tiebreakers will be in order:

1: The player whose roster cost the least money wins.
2: The player whose best-scoring athlete scored the most points wins.
3: The player whose worst-scoring athlete scored the most points wins.
4: Repeat 2 and 3, starting with second-best and second-worst, eventually breaking the tie unless both players’ rosters had the same athletes or athletes who had the same scores.
5: The player who submitted their roster earlier wins.

Any FREE outside resources are allowed; you may not pay to access any resources or use any you have previously paid for for the challenge (obviously this isn’t meant to be interpreted as “I pay my ISP for Internet access, guess I have to read the newspaper for stats”).

I strongly recommend that you do at least a small amount of research for this challenge.

Some recommendations for this challenge:
1: NBA news tends to break very close to the start times for the games. As such, there is no harm in waiting until very close to the deadline to submit your roster (but to counteract this, one of the tiebreakers is the player that submitted their roster earlier).
2: Matchups do matter for points! If a game is close, the good players on each team will play more of the game. If it’s a runaway for one team or the other, there’s a good chance that both teams will sit their best players at the end. However, any team can beat any other team, so counting on a matchup to be close may not be a smart move.
3: https://www.dailyfantasyfuel.com/nba?platform=fd is a source that I recommend for this challenge, especially once it updates with the correct games

about 20 hours before the games tip off

. You will want to adjust “Next Slate” to get at the right games; leave the option above it set to FanDuel (FanDuel and DraftKings will have different scoring and athlete costs; the systems outlined above are for FanDuel). However, keep in mind that the games we’re using are a subset of the games that will appear in any Next Slate. Also, since we’re using a custom roster size, the optimizer tool will not give you a valid roster.
4: “Stacking” your roster with athletes on the same team is a potential strategy (though you may not include more than three athletes from any one team). If you do this and one athlete assists on another’s shot, you’ll score even more points! Though it’s certainly not the only way to go, especially in basketball.
5: If you're not sure whether or not your lineup is valid, I'm more than happy to check it if you send it to me over Discord or PM. My schedule except for Tuesday late morning/early afternoon is almost completely free, so I should be able to respond quickly.

[MURDERCAT]

You really couldn't do baseball

[D3f3nd3r]

Baseball is considerably less predictable as a DFS sport, unfortunately.

By the way

feel free to discuss strategy but don’t discuss specific players please

[racefan12]

Hi I am a sportsball fan (TM)

[xofelf]

Oh, this is definitely where I leave. It was nice to know all of you. I thought bot challenges were the worst, I stand corrected.

[Cheery Dog]

I am glad I'm already eliminated!

[xofelf]

It's Sports AND Math. My two worst things. I get it D3f, I've killed you in LSGs too often. I'm *sorry*.

[Raya36]

And I thought pokemon was bad

[Mist7676]

d3f this is the worst and u know it.

[D3f3nd3r]

d3f this is the worst and u know it.

I do, but I’ve had this concept sitting around for like five years and wanted an excuse to finally use it.

[Cephrir]

Oh, okay. Bye.

[D3f3nd3r]

The DailyFantasyFuel page listed in the challenge rules post is now updated with projections for tomorrow, but the prices there are slightly changed from the official prices being used for the challenge so be sure your lineup is valid with the set of prices in the rules post.

[D3f3nd3r]

I’ve been asked to clarify this - DvP is a stat that ranks the opposing team by how many fantasy points they give up to opposing players at their position on average. 1 is the worst (ie. best opposing defense), 30 is the best (ie. worst opposing defense).

[xofelf]

"Fantasy points" what we are all hoping to be awarded during this challenge.

[racefan12]

Everything is made up and the points don't matter

[D3f3nd3r]

Everything is made up and the real points don't matter, but for this challenge the fake points do matter!

pedit fuck off

[VashtaNeurotic]

What I don't get is that the only teams that seem to be connected to Fantasy are the Kings and Warriors, what's so fantastical about the concept of heat anyway?

[D3f3nd3r]

What I don't get is that the only teams that seem to be connected to Fantasy are the Kings and Warriors, what's so fantastical about the concept of heat anyway?

The Greeks would disagree (assuming you connect heat to fire)!

[Save The Dragons]

are all these, um, "ball matches," tonight?