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Post Post #1 (isolation #0) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:32 am

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Post Post #11 (isolation #1) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:37 am

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DkKoba did you just cast Capture of Jingzhou in a chess game???
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Post Post #17 (isolation #2) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:39 am

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Post Post #18 (isolation #3) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:39 am

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T3 town Andante mafia

DkKoba idk but I'm gonna control their vote so they will be at least proxy town
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Post Post #19 (isolation #4) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:40 am

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I claim Janus
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"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #59 (isolation #6) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:30 am

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Qg7+
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Post Post #63 (isolation #7) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:32 am

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Post Post #107 (isolation #8) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:38 pm

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VOTE: Andante
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Post Post #109 (isolation #9) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:39 pm

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I'm so jealous of the handholding
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Post Post #136 (isolation #10) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:50 pm

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Qb3
Address ...d4 with Nf2++

Address any bishop move with Qd3++
Address Qb6 and Qc5 with Qd3++
Address Qd4 with Qf3++
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Post Post #138 (isolation #11) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:51 pm

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That took me a long time to work out
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Post Post #139 (isolation #12) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:52 pm

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Hi there!
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Post Post #142 (isolation #13) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:54 pm

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In post 113, bugspray wrote:I also have two hands
fair vote koba. after a bit of thinking in my pt i thought that virgo's entrance was a little pockety
This thread is too wholesome
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Post Post #144 (isolation #14) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:56 pm

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Andante you are very confusing to read

You're overreacting a lot for a low info stage push but I'm not sure how to characterize it actually.

Why do you scumread me the most of people voting you?
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Post Post #147 (isolation #15) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:58 pm

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Really curious about Virgo's main because the style seems different from Hectic so far. Although Hectic's not accounted for.
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Post Post #300 (isolation #16) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:04 pm

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In post 95, DkKoba wrote:been trying every combo of move, only lines that lead to a 2 turn mate are after Nd4
What's the checkmate after the QxN response
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Post Post #301 (isolation #17) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:39 pm

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Virgo is town no matter what Andante is

I'm trying to make sure it's not just bias from liking her playstyle but I think there's actual town AI stuff in her methodology
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Post Post #302 (isolation #18) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:39 pm

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VOTE: Amy
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Post Post #303 (isolation #19) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:40 pm

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i will probably not make any alignment indicative posts unless i ban myself from the chess puzzles
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Post Post #372 (isolation #20) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:48 am

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The progression from 175-179 is pretty town indicative and difficult to emulate.

Virgo asks if Andante is experienced at mafia, which I also wondered and which most people probably wondered. Andante doesn't make two posts, but doesn't answer
As scum I would expect virgo to re-assert the question. Letting the question get dropped is "scummy" for being disingenuous (but at the tack of analysis I'm taking doesn't actually indicate a scum alignment).

Virgo continues reading and or thinking during the five minutes that Andante didn't address the question and comes up with a different conclusion, even though the experience data point never came in. This points a lot to deductive instead of inductive reasoning patterns, a buzzword the_worst uses about taking a stance where the evidence leads you vs. taking a stance, then making sure you can fit the evidence to align with it. The request for information would create a pause in a development of new stances for scum!virgo induction but is less consequential for town!Virgo's deductions since the reread of what Andante already posted can stand on its own meaning

It's hard to ask if someone is experienced as scum and not plan out what to do with either answer
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Post Post #373 (isolation #21) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:57 am

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Idk if is in bugspray's scumrange it's pretty schnazzy
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Post Post #374 (isolation #22) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:05 am

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is a smothermate style puzzle, the few legal moves of black's pieces gives this away. So you want to look at nothing burger moves when it's a smothermate type puzzle, like Qb2. Qb2 does it. Black King can't move. If the knight moves, Kd2++. If the rook moves, the queen can move past it for h8++. If the f pawn captures, then light square diagonal checks become possible, and Qb7++
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Post Post #375 (isolation #23) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:07 am

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In post 353, DkKoba wrote:i am confident enough that whatever solution gypyx came up with can be debunked by at least 1 move by black in between that I will wager 1 point on it.
I accept this spelling of my name and this wager btw
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Post Post #380 (isolation #24) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:55 am

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In post 377, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:If the knight moves, Kd2++.
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Post Post #381 (isolation #25) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:56 am

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In post 377, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 374, Isis wrote: If the knight moves, Kd2++.
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Post Post #382 (isolation #26) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:59 am

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Kd2 is actually KxN (d2) if the knight moves to a3 but meant that for both legal moves of the black knight, you move the white king to d2 for checkmate whether that captures a piece or not
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Post Post #383 (isolation #27) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:00 am

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*if the knight moves to d2 instead of a3
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Post Post #384 (isolation #28) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:02 am

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In post 376, T3 wrote:VOTE: Raya
I'm down for this, mosrly based on PoE.
Do you usually make PoE votes in this phase of the game, sir?
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Post Post #386 (isolation #29) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:16 am

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Oh, right
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Post Post #388 (isolation #31) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:19 am

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Qb3.
Rx anything, R moves anywhere: Qh8++
f3xe2: Qb7++
Nd2: KxN++
Na3: 0-0-0++
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Post Post #393 (isolation #32) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:03 pm

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Raya did you rand scum
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Post Post #395 (isolation #33) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:02 pm

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bugspray
I think you seem a little townie so far.

Besides t3 and besides me if you happen to feel that way, who do you think is the scummiest player in the game?

Reread a little if you feel up to it.

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Post Post #406 (isolation #34) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:25 pm

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I will miss playing chess with DkKoba when this game is over
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Post Post #511 (isolation #35) » Sat May 01, 2021 10:41 am

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Koba I will miss you
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Post Post #512 (isolation #36) » Sat May 01, 2021 10:42 am

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VOTE: Andante
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Post Post #526 (isolation #37) » Sat May 01, 2021 11:31 am

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i don't see the benefit in asking for a claim

if they claimed king we would lose the game when the scum dayvig shoots anyways

i think there's probably a scum dayvig

anyway Dk wasn't playing much like a flagbearer
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Post Post #543 (isolation #38) » Sat May 01, 2021 11:44 am

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In post 541, Andante wrote:they'd only reach that if black king was also gunned tbh, and if they had that idea, Isis is looking mighty scummy... "just vote her out without a claim..."
I was talking about DkKoba. I almost always pronoun people correctly so it seemed clear enough.
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Post Post #549 (isolation #39) » Sat May 01, 2021 11:47 am

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someone said they thought it was a scum shot because no claim was requested from DkKoba before they were shot.

and the fourth line is explicitly about koba.. so I don't know why you're arguing about this..
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Post Post #551 (isolation #40) » Sat May 01, 2021 11:48 am

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In post 548, Andante wrote:ok, I'm unlimited bp... what's to stop me from dying/claiming then?? I'm like actually confused
in like a 5p elo you can 1v1 the black king i guess
if I believe you. I'm not sure.

Bulletproof king maybe makes more sense for mafia.
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Post Post #557 (isolation #41) » Sat May 01, 2021 11:50 am

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i'm pretty confused
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Post Post #584 (isolation #42) » Sat May 01, 2021 12:11 pm

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Andante is claiming she's BP so that's why the mafia won't shoot her
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Post Post #585 (isolation #43) » Sat May 01, 2021 12:12 pm

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I would be surprised if Andante was a mafia goon but I think I wouldn't be surprised for her to flip either type of king atm
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Post Post #672 (isolation #44) » Sat May 01, 2021 5:11 pm

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I'm BIZZY
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Post Post #677 (isolation #45) » Sat May 01, 2021 6:23 pm

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I let bugspray leash my shot since this setup seems like it might have a scum dayvig so I wouldn't good proof I wasn't aiming at town (unless I'm scum with bugs, I guess)
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Post Post #678 (isolation #46) » Sat May 01, 2021 6:23 pm

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*wanted
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Post Post #705 (isolation #47) » Sun May 02, 2021 3:37 am

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I never said the dayvig corresponds to the queen chess piece, I think Andante and bugspray just scumslipped together lol

There must be a black queen
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Post Post #706 (isolation #48) » Sun May 02, 2021 3:37 am

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VOTE: bugspray
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Post Post #783 (isolation #49) » Sun May 02, 2021 2:04 pm

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I am white queen I thought my statements already should make it clear I'm hard claiming that. I got one dayvig shot and there was ainimum ount of RL time before I could shoot it
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Post Post #786 (isolation #50) » Sun May 02, 2021 2:08 pm

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Andante and bugspray both knew that "dayvig claim" and "queen claim" are the same thing.


Maybe we should just eliminate Andante cause we are inevitably going to be about to elim someone claiming flagbearers at some point and the slot is just so wolfy

I'm not passing up on a bona fide scumslip though.
They're so rare in the wild
It'd be like releasing a shiny pokemon
I know everyone else will be less excited than I am cause they're not queens but the slip saying "queen" when this setup could have been knights are dayvig, rooks are dayvig, etc is p cool
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Post Post #794 (isolation #51) » Sun May 02, 2021 2:30 pm

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Andante isn't a he, I don't think any he people have claimed white king

Pedit:

I decided 24 hours before my shot to leash my shot to bugspray because I didn't have a super strong scumread and leashing it helps show I'm not a mafia big that shot my target because they don't share a PT with me (unless I'm scum with bugspray and we decided together not to gambit shoot my third partner I guess. Actually gambit shooting a third partner sounds really fancy and cool know that I think about it)

The wagon developed long after I decided to start lurking until my shot went off. It didn't seem like a reason not to shoot
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Post Post #797 (isolation #52) » Sun May 02, 2021 2:32 pm

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Uh, if I was on a scumteam I could have a scumpartner as a scum dayvig who shot koba, then say in the PT "hey can I take credit for the kill and you not take credit for the kill".

I'm not the black King because I'm white, though.
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Post Post #815 (isolation #53) » Sun May 02, 2021 3:04 pm

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I was a little disappointed bugspray chose my chess puzzle rival
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Post Post #818 (isolation #54) » Sun May 02, 2021 5:51 pm

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In post 816, Raya36 wrote:
In post 783, Isis wrote:I am white queen I thought my statements already should make it clear I'm hard claiming that. I got one dayvig shot and there was ainimum ount of RL time before I could shoot it
Alright. I'll think on this a bit. Claims and slips are hard
In post 786, Isis wrote: Maybe we should just eliminate Andante cause we are inevitably going to be about to elim someone claiming flagbearers at some point and the slot is just so wolfy
Bad idea

Andante's panic felt very genuine but also scumking!andante could panic the same way and then claim to explain the panic as a last resort. Either way we should never elim there today

If Isis was the scum vig this would be very risky because the chances of a town vig as well are high. So I think Isis is ok.

Flow probably did scumslip. The flavour isn't obvious to be assumed like that. Andante didn't scumslip. I believe that they just took what Flow said at face value
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In post 806, Virgo wrote:Man, I just find the concept of a king with a BP so weird, like.

You're king, outting when you're wagoned, sure. That's fine and I get it but why out the vested part after knowing there's a dayvig like that? You don't know their alignment, etc.

I told yall, I figured from the start scum was gunned because of my vest, thus, I'm not certain on Isis's claim here... To me it makes 0 sense for us to have a vig and scum not to
What makes you say scum doesn't have a vig?
If flow was the first person to equate vigs to queens I am out here wanting to kill whoever started to equate queens to vigs.

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Post Post #821 (isolation #55) » Sun May 02, 2021 7:50 pm

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bugspray you can't even comprehend the number of style points you get for winning a mafia game off of a scumslip
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Post Post #825 (isolation #56) » Mon May 03, 2021 2:03 am

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VOTE: Raya why you lie to me
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Post Post #826 (isolation #57) » Mon May 03, 2021 2:04 am

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People are voting me without developing a full picture of a story of how scum!me would have to work and I'm not sure if it's scummy or just bad
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Post Post #828 (isolation #58) » Mon May 03, 2021 2:43 am

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Why do I leash my shot to you if I rand scum? DkKoba didn't seem to want to elim me that much. A scum dayvig is such a powerful tool. If it's not used on a powerful key solver it can just be saved for when firing it immediately wins the game (or also, like, killing the king??)

No one is even like, thinking this stuff out or trying to view the game from my slot's pov
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Post Post #829 (isolation #59) » Mon May 03, 2021 2:47 am

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I mean presumably there's the wifom that I think this spews me town or whatever so that's why I do it. Except I wouldn't really do that. No one is ever happy when I do weird mech shit like this. It never does me favors. I just kind of do it anyway because I think it's optimal and get preoccupied by that. You can view me almost getting miselimmed as traffic analyst in innocentvillager's normal in a game where I was trying to crumb communicate with scum asking if they were mailman role.
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Post Post #836 (isolation #60) » Mon May 03, 2021 4:09 am

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In post 833, Raya36 wrote:Something I've been thinking which might be a stretch. What if Isis is the scum!vig and Bugspray is the town!vig and his slip was a townslip and not a scumslip and Isis is hoping to get him eliminated before they shoot at each other at night.

Someone let me know if that's too much of a stretch
Bugspray is a they. Please pay that mind.
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Post Post #851 (isolation #61) » Mon May 03, 2021 4:31 am

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I shot koba because bugspray responded to my bolded request for a scumread with Koba
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Post Post #854 (isolation #62) » Mon May 03, 2021 9:17 am

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In post 852, flow trap wrote:If Isis is town & there is a scum vig, there are most likely 2 scum, since shooting someone & lycheeing Isis would give them parity at 3 scum
I think you're making the mistake of treetung my miss as a given. In the 3 scum scenario I had a 3/8 chance to hit, almost half, and I still failed.

If town has no flagbearers but the mafia does, it could still be balanced.

Not that versions of the setup that are 2:7 aren't plausible,.it could be.

Pooky thinks towns are very strong in nightless, I've talked to him about it before, I don't think he'd have qualms about running a nightless town EV as low as 25%
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Post Post #861 (isolation #63) » Mon May 03, 2021 2:06 pm

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In post 857, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 825, Isis wrote:VOTE: Raya why you lie to me
What did she lie about?
she said flow trap said that queens are vigs, but bugspray was the first to say so.

I had already decided to shoot whoever bugspray said when I asked bugs. The timing of the shot was based on my minimum, I wasn't allowed to dayvig until 4 RL days had passed
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Post Post #868 (isolation #64) » Mon May 03, 2021 3:49 pm

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that's not a scum indicative "lie" flow trap and Amy..
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Post Post #882 (isolation #65) » Tue May 04, 2021 8:46 am

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In post 871, bugspray wrote:
In post 851, Isis wrote:I shot koba because bugspray responded to my bolded request for a scumread with Koba
how was I supposed to know that you were trying to use that to leash a shot? seriously, don't pin it on me
Nah you didn't know you were leashing that's the fun part
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #894 (isolation #66) » Tue May 04, 2021 12:33 pm

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:(
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #903 (isolation #67) » Tue May 04, 2021 1:06 pm

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Is scum gonna dayvig the game now?
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #1020 (isolation #68) » Thu May 06, 2021 4:22 am

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Gg
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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