Micro 1007: Chess Mafia Game Over!

[Andante]

Did Isis shoot Koba cause koba called you scum Raya?

[Isis]

I shot koba because bugspray responded to my bolded request for a scumread with Koba

[flow trap]

If Isis is town & there is a scum vig, there are most likely 2 scum, since shooting someone & lycheeing Isis would give them parity at 3 scum

[Raya36]

Did Isis shoot Koba cause koba called you scum Raya?

That wouldn't make sense anyway. I wasn't anywhere near being in danger and Koba was only calling me scum because I was calling them scum in a way that looks similar to my scum games.

[Isis]

If Isis is town & there is a scum vig, there are most likely 2 scum, since shooting someone & lycheeing Isis would give them parity at 3 scum

I think you're making the mistake of treetung my miss as a given. In the 3 scum scenario I had a 3/8 chance to hit, almost half, and I still failed.

If town has no flagbearers but the mafia does, it could still be balanced.

Not that versions of the setup that are 2:7 aren't plausible,.it could be.

Pooky thinks towns are very strong in nightless, I've talked to him about it before, I don't think he'd have qualms about running a nightless town EV as low as 25%

[flow trap]

I'm solving the setup by the situation

[Amy Dunne]

Official Vote Count

Isis

(4): T3, flow trap, Andante, bugspray

T3

(1): Raya36

Raya36

(1): Isis

Not Voting

(2): Virgo, Amy Dunne

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-05-11 17:00:00)

I’m not feeling good about this vote. That’s why I wanted her to fully claim which she did but she claimed vig before there was a wagon on her.

[Amy Dunne]

VOTE: Raya why you lie to me

What did she lie about?

[Amy Dunne]

But why would you just default to saying queen. Why would you give the vig any flavour without knowing instead of just calling it a vig

I mean, to be fair, I claimed vested king lol gunned queen isn't a far stretch

But it makes 0 sense to assume queen when you can just say vig.

And Isis' claim makes no sense from scum. What was the point in claiming.

VOTE: Bugspray

If Isis’ claim is true, than wagon is probably not all town. If she’s scum, then the absence of a counterwagon is strange.

[Amy Dunne]

Official Vote Count

T3

(3): Andante, Raya36, bugspray

Andante

(1): Isis

Isis

(1): T3

Not Voting

(3): flow trap, Amy Dunne, Virgo

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-05-11 17:00:00)

Official Vote Count

Isis

(4): T3, flow trap, Andante, bugspray

T3

(1): Raya36

bugspray

(1): Isis

Not Voting

(2): Virgo, Amy Dunne

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-05-11 17:00:00)

Look at this. Pre-claim, only one vote on Isis and post claim she’s at E-1. No one was pushing her to claim dayvig, so why did she?

[flow trap]

Anda & I were already suspicious of Isis before then, there was momentum

[Isis]

VOTE: Raya why you lie to me

What did she lie about?

she said flow trap said that queens are vigs, but bugspray was the first to say so.

I had already decided to shoot whoever bugspray said when I asked bugs. The timing of the shot was based on my minimum, I wasn't allowed to dayvig until 4 RL days had passed

[Amy Dunne]

I don’t understand 825.

I'm very confused on Isis' claim. Can someone unvote her so we don't get an elim before an explanation?

[Amy Dunne]

VOTE: Raya why you lie to me

What did she lie about?

she said flow trap said that queens are vigs, but bugspray was the first to say so.

I had already decided to shoot whoever bugspray said when I asked bugs. The timing of the shot was based on my minimum, I wasn't allowed to dayvig until 4 RL days had passed

Raya, why did you say Flow said that instead of bugspray?

[Amy Dunne]

What makes you say scum doesn't have a vig?

I'm saying there's no way scum doesn't have one... it's nightless

Ok that makes more sense. Apparently I can't read because you said that very clearly oops

I am white queen I thought my statements already should make it clear I'm hard claiming that. I got one dayvig shot and there was ainimum ount of RL time before I could shoot it

Alright. I'll think on this a bit. Claims and slips are hard

Maybe we should just eliminate Andante cause we are inevitably going to be about to elim someone claiming flagbearers at some point and the slot is just so wolfy

Bad idea

Andante's panic felt very genuine but also scumking!andante could panic the same way and then claim to explain the panic as a last resort. Either way we should never elim there today

If Isis was the scum vig this would be very risky because the chances of a town vig as well are high. So I think Isis is ok.

Flow probably did scumslip. The flavour isn't obvious to be assumed like that. Andante didn't scumslip. I believe that they just took what Flow said at face value

Man, I just find the concept of a king with a BP so weird, like.

You're king, outting when you're wagoned, sure. That's fine and I get it but why out the vested part after knowing there's a dayvig like that? You don't know their alignment, etc.

I told yall, I figured from the start scum was gunned because of my vest, thus, I'm not certain on Isis's claim here... To me it makes 0 sense for us to have a vig and scum not to

What makes you say scum doesn't have a vig?

If flow was the first person to equate vigs to queens I am out here wanting to kill whoever started to equate queens to vigs.

VOTE: flow trap

Correction. It was bugspray, not flow

If flow was the first person to equate vigs to queens I am out here wanting to kill whoever started to equate queens to vigs.

Step 1: Iso me
Step 2: Control+F
Step 3: Search Vig+Queen

That's my bad, I got my players and events confused

VOTE: Raya why you lie to me

Oops

Is that all you have to say to that is “oops”?

[flow trap]

VOTE: Raya36

[T3]

I don't try to red in to lying because moreoften than not it is genuine confusion.

[Andante]

I'm lost. uh oh

[Isis]

that's not a scum indicative "lie" flow trap and Amy..

[bugspray]

if a lie isn't unambiguously not scum indicative then chances are it's actually scum indicative

[bugspray]

okay i might have double negatived but sometimes townies lie to try and trick scum into slipping and those lies are very obviously not scum indicative after the fact

[bugspray]

I shot koba because bugspray responded to my bolded request for a scumread with Koba

how was I supposed to know that you were trying to use that to leash a shot? seriously, don't pin it on me

[Amy Dunne]

that's not a scum indicative "lie" flow trap and Amy..

Then why is your vote on her?

[Amy Dunne]

VOTE: Raya why you lie to me

You say it’s not scum indicative but you’re still voting her. Why?

[Raya36]

VOTE: Raya why you lie to me

What did she lie about?

she said flow trap said that queens are vigs, but bugspray was the first to say so.

I had already decided to shoot whoever bugspray said when I asked bugs. The timing of the shot was based on my minimum, I wasn't allowed to dayvig until 4 RL days had passed

Raya, why did you say Flow said that instead of bugspray?

Yes

Is that all you have to say to that is “oops”?

I mean it was an honest mistake. Idk what else to say

Why would I lie about something as scum that can be so easily confirmed