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[NorwegianboyEE]

gyp + geraint calling it

Does Datisi have an agenda or not?
And why those?

[NorwegianboyEE]

i am informed that i am town

this was the 8t post after mine VOTE: datisi

i mean

i can see why your 'normal' playstyle gets you killed

that is the way i generate my random vote, i do tat every game.
no, i meant my normal way of playing is to sit back and just not move my votes very much, people hate it. i don't plan on being as like that from now on, and see how it goes (i fully expect people to go "Why is geraint so different from usual, lets vote him?")


I believe this.
Informed claims early day 1 are super unlikely to come from scum.
te straight up claim is because i have never been informed before in a game. i have zero idea what to do with it, so i thought to myself "lets keep this simple". I even said in my confirmation email to the mod that i planned to just announce it in my first post.
my thinking was - people should read me as town - this is just such a stupid thing to do if scum
second - i am assuming there is some sort of protective role/unkillable role on town side and they'd like to know about the strongman thing -
third - if i ever claimed after today it would just look weird - like an excuse to out someone or a lame town claim that couldn't be checked - so claim now

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh my god wtf is that quote rape. Fuck you mobile.
This is what i meant to say about Geraintm:


I believe this.
Informed claims early day 1 are super unlikely to come from scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ico r u always this hyper active like you just ate a ton of sugary candies from grandma’s bowl in the living room.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Btw i’m typing this in my lunch break and i’m working a day to day job that’s sapping all life from me so please don’t spam so much like usual cus i’ll need to spend like all evening to catch up. (

[NorwegianboyEE]

Truth.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Datisi prob town for tryhard and they will spend 20 pages ranting about me before realizing i’m town and moving on to the actual scum, but being real pissy about it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i'm a tryhard?

NorwegianBoy - 26 posts per day
Datisi - 16 posts per day

use this info as you see fit

Post count don’t make a tryhard.
If you spam pointless shit and have 50 posts per day ur not a tryhard. And conversely, you can have like 3 posts a day and still be an ultra tryhard.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: norwee

why the switch?

the post i voted you for was tonally a disaster
your explanation explained why it could be a town tonal disaster

hmm, think i see why

anything weird about norwee, or just random bleh?

his posts up to that point were all lifeless, posting for the sake of posting, no actual analysis/arguments etc

What? O_O

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ve got two townreads just from my light skim of the game.
TWO.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i literally don't care what people think now. i hate day ones, i think town trying to come to an educated elimination means scum are less likely to be eliminated than if straws were drawn. i want to move to day 2 when other people will have some information from overnight and we can try and properly find scum

last game i did my normal "i don't want to vote anyone, when i do i am going to stick with it for a long time" play style, and then i had 5 votes placed on me in 5 posts in 33 minutes whilst i was asleep to get eliminated, i'm fed up with that

[note, i was scum... ]

This is stupid and you should feel bad. Day 1 is informative.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ur face is lifeless Datisi.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You’ve got no light in your eyes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’d like to see how much life you can put in your posts while huddling in front of a cold bus station on your way to another tiring day of work. Feeling like your fingers about to freeze off cus we’re in April and Norway didn’t get the memo that winters supposed to be over by now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The informed claim and anata.

[NorwegianboyEE]

norway can you go through your emotional state at this time? im just wondering why you felt like you needed to capitalize "two"

Annoyed, angry, rabid.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Annoyed at being called lifeless.

[NorwegianboyEE]

but you don't have to tell it's ok,

Conversely, can i ask why you’re so passive?
It reminds me of your scum game and it freaks me out.
Like, do you want to know or not? Do you not really care if i answer the question, is that why?

[NorwegianboyEE]

And then there’s me. Solving a newbie game on day 1 by finding one scum because of their bad vote, and their teammate based on their interractions with each other.
But sure, day 1 eliminations are TOTALLY pointless and nobody should give a fuck about anything said.

[NorwegianboyEE]

also i will probably ignore all of gera's posts on d1 because they're almost verbatim things only heard in the newbie queue.

Fine i guess i’ll make this my policy too.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VP Baltar do you have multiple accs or is this our first time?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m not feeling evil aura from Datisi.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VP Baltar do you have multiple accs or is this our first time?

First time! I only play on this account

Hm. Felt like you treated me somehow familiarly, but it’s really the first time huh?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anya you’re just in time to witness my resurrection.
I’m good this time.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anya can you at least try to elaborate why Beorgegailey is town in that post.

[NorwegianboyEE]

actually i don't like that question anymore

i'm gonna go now bye

Can i townread this? I want to townread this. I’m going to townread this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah. In that game where i was absolutely convinced they were scum but everyone called me stupid and dumb for not seeing how obviously town Datisi was and i almost died but got conf!towned.

[NorwegianboyEE]

link please/was it recent? and why are you so sure Datisi is different/town here?

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=83567
Smugglers port.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I feel like my reads work on a completely different level from other people so people who are good at scum by meta usually aren't that good at fooling me, the problem is that i suck at convincing the rest of the town that they are scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Datisi just feels town by tone to me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't townread you IV.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: VP Baltar
His postings just felt agenda based so far.
219 in particular.

[NorwegianboyEE]

204 too kinda.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't townread you IV.

i mean id be shocked if I ever got day eliminated in this plist so im not too worried yet

Ew.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That response feels scummy.
Btw why did you ask a trick question.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I feel like the result is pointless because i already went in there with the mindset that there HAD to be one town ISO. So the response would have been wrong either way as it was simply choosing what i presumed to be the less scummy ISO rather than saying something like "Any of these ISO's could be town or scum, which is scum/town?"

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’d rather ask why IV framed the question that way and put two scum ISO’s.
Do you want me to subconciously believe Datisi could be scum here? If so, why? Do you yourself think Datisi is scum here?

[NorwegianboyEE]

204 too kinda.

(Pls link posts at least so I don't need to search)

Again, why is stating an opinion = having an agenda?

It just feels like you're stating a lot of things and not doing much with it.
And regarding the familiarity thing, it was you shortening the names and i thought you might be someone i knew from earlier or multi-account user. But you're clearly not.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I have lots of experience with Datisi as well. It is too early to tell his alignment.

Repeating a point from Norwegian about me (which is very eh to begin with) is definitely in line with OMGUS.

There’s no way this is Omgus. And it’s a bit disingenuous how you’re framing it that way.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Luca literally said the same later but ok.
I don’t see why Luca having those reads is scummy, i’ve had the same reads up to this point.
Maybe Luca could be trying to pocket if my reads are bad, but i’m inclined to believe i’m correct.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Where is Wooper Wooper...

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ico do you have reads on me, IV or VP?

[NorwegianboyEE]

But town Ico never does that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You played with me in Team Mafia.

[NorwegianboyEE]

ico's memory (or lackthereof) keeps surprising me

also friendly reminded that the TM event is still ongoing therefore the games are not yet legal to talk about, thank you

Not my fault it lasts for 5 years.
We can’t talk about an game that ended 2 months ago, it’s getting ridiculous.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Geraint you’re a bad player, but town. That’s all i have to say.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Or well, good at towntelling. Shit at scum hunting. Maybe that sounds a bit nicer?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Are you just being ironic or something?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m liking VP’s more recent posts a bit better.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m seeing a lot of comments that George’s post is either +town or +scum and i’d just like for someone to actually elaborate why?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Luca gave me shit for not solving the game on day 1 earlier.

[NorwegianboyEE]

By Luca for just those reads?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m gonna vote IV for the time being while we wait for Bailey.
VOTE: InnocentVillager

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Alice

Starting to feel IV might be Town

Is it activity? Cus i feel like IV can be fairly active as scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Has George seriously not posted yet?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Alice is scum, working by some handbook written in the late '80s by a mafioso who thinks he was the Godfather but actually more like a Concierge

Fucking lmao.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee can be town.

Wait why do i get this tiny ass line while everyone else had broad paragraphs? This is unfair.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Georgebailey
I accidentally made this vote outside of this game, but i meant it be4 Luca.

[NorwegianboyEE]

also @you and @Ico @anyone else what cares, why is Norway town? quoting past posts is fine

Plus town points to IV here.

I was just thinking as I'm catching up from the overnight pages: "Where the hell is Norway? He was very active early on and then faded into the background once the game actually got rolling."

Don’t hit me with this shit.
I’m working a FULL TIME JOB. Dealing with children. I can’t be as active as usual. That does NOT equate scum and i’d rather just let everyone know right away that this is not how to read me in this game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m working at a school i meant the actual children.

[NorwegianboyEE]

traditionally towntisi is the obvtown village idiot who loses town the game in lylo

yeah that brings me back to a certain newbie we had.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Regarding Alice i didn't really have a confident read on them since i don't know them at all and i just didn't know if the vibes i was getting is even trustworthy. In that i gut read them as kinda townish but i also don't really think they've been town at all.
Yeah it's an inconclusive read and hence why i didn't comment much about them.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Town:

Datisi, IV, Norwee, Baltar, Geraint

I'm not really sure about IV, Geraint maybe.
Though i disliked that activity thing. Maybe it makes sense for someone that knows me to say something like "Oh no, Norway is less active. Scummy!" but not some rando.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Baltar maybe*
Geraint is obvtown.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Maybe this is just a game of talking slots town. And scum are low input slots like George, Alice, Anya.

Btw just me or does Ico posts seem completely useless even though he posts a lot? Toss him in there too?
VOTE: Iconeum

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh right N_M is in this game too. He's got such a low profile. Only shows up to hammer wagons n stuff.
Yeah i have no idea what alignment he is.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wooper Gypyx hmm, leantown on first and nullish on second?

[NorwegianboyEE]

is there a point to you calling me scum in the most uncreative ways, iv, other than you thinking it's funny?

Silence, scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Alice those reads are coming along i hope?

[NorwegianboyEE]

that is a pretty strange wagon that formed out of nowhere. for the purposes of tomorrow, i want to add these 3 - VPBalter, Anya and Wooper to my list of suspicious people

i didn't read shit but the last vc but wtf

UNVOTE: ico

this is consistent with Datisi's previous posts

Anyways... VOTE: ICO

Why are you saying it's a sus wagon and then joining in? Lmao.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I could see George and gypyx being partners actually

Because Gypyx is being kind awkward about George?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Btw Wooper, is you choosing to play as Wooper relating to you wanting to have a less serious playstyle than when you're playing as 'The Worst' or is that just my imagination?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not sure about VP Baltars random hypocritical attack on Datisi earlier. It's kinda an continuation of what i didn't like about him and what i keep finding scummy. How he always asks other people for their opinions and complaining about their inactivity, but their questions also feel pointless.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The Ico wagon rose and fell very quickly, which suggests to me some kind of scum movement on one side of that. No clue which side.

Well you also put your vote on the wagon.
Do you have any thoughts about it or are you just going to keep being obtuse and give nothing conclusions?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not sure about VP Baltars random hypocritical attack on Datisi earlier. It's kinda an continuation of what i didn't like about him and what i keep finding scummy. How he always asks other people for their opinions and complaining about their inactivity, but their questions also feel pointless.

Am I scum?

Maybe? Are you?

[NorwegianboyEE]

i wish the last page and a half hadn't happened, bc it lowkey sunk my read on literally everyone who's posted on them

Can you explain that?
Based on slots that have posted right now i'm thinking you and Luca are townie. Baltar leanscum.
I'm gonna join this wagon because i don't understand why George is this inactive and he hasn't been town so far.
VOTE: GeorgeBailey

[NorwegianboyEE]

he hasn't been town so far.

To the great shock of Anya.

[NorwegianboyEE]

- norwee is also kinda ok and being norwee. i can't make up anything negative for him here.

Then why did you say

Ę̷̲͚̠̞̼̖͚͈̅̇͒̓͐̉̊̋̔͒͝͝͝V̵̨̦̫͋͛E̸̬̹̪͇̭̹̲̗̎̓̔̇̏̽͝R̷̢̢̪̝̙̙̲̗̣͙̘̯͙̞͂͋̿̕Ȳ̷͖̭̣̮̺͍̤̟̯̣̠̃O̶̎̅̈͛͒͗̍̒̆̂̈́̕͜͝N̵̜̗͕̼̗̤̼̞͚̳̪̣̾͒̈́́̓͋͛̋͆̽͗̆͂̎͜͜͝ͅE̸̢̡̛̠͖̗̤̯͔̦͔̲͚͙͋͆͋̈́̂̽̇̍̆̑͠͝

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not really, depending on their answer it helps my read on the Wooper slot.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Given the last few pages, I'm very uncertain that George is scum. There's some lazy slumping on here happening.

Ok i like my George vote now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It's not a fuck it yeet, it's just pressuring George to wake the fuck up and start posting good, and if he doesn't then i guess he's scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee's vote is also very bad.

K

[NorwegianboyEE]

Luca why is Baltar in your townblock?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think you oughta reconsider that read cus i ain't sharing the block with that guys cocky face and "am i scum?" attitude.

[NorwegianboyEE]

the moment I start overexplaining stuff like this, I may as well just be playing on my main.

So it’s true?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I kind of want nor to be town but his interactions w baltar are so trippy that if my reads are uuuuupside the fuck down, they are scum together 99% of the time

Who is this post referring to? George?

Oh NM, Norway.

NM isn’t mentioned?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I find Trendall pretty easy to play with tbh. Never understood the issue you have with him Luca.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ico do you thought on the votes placed on you beyond you wanting to spank them on the ass?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Have thoughts*

[NorwegianboyEE]

That post might have killed my townread on Geraint by half.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think George’s inactivity and sparse content is scummy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The difference between George and some slot like N_M is that i expect George to have somewhat towned it up by now, while N_M will likely always be shitty.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i just did an ugly distressed cry-laughter sound

i bet the other people in the house are now wondering what the fuck is wrong with me

What the fuck is wrong with you? You disgust me, don’t ever talk to me or my family ever again.

[NorwegianboyEE]

First one: George made a pretty empty post disguised by its length, which is a common scum tactic. His comments on geraint seemed like he was just trying to find something to talk about that made it look at though he was thinking about the game, but it was superficial

His last post: basically copying things that others have said, safe stances and not an original thought amongst them. Again making a long post to compensate for that. His tinfoil theory on me might have been of interest, but it feels like he’s just stalling the day out at this point

God you’re always so much better at putting to words what i’m thinking.
I think i’ll always need a Luca in my game just so i can nod, point to their post, and shout: THIS!! —->

[NorwegianboyEE]

God you’re always so much better at putting to words what i’m thinking.

Pocketing

So am i a scumread to you?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Stating that i have a job is not a bullshit response in any world mate.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ehh i wouldn’t hate an Anya wagon.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well Anya is now E-2 and if i placed my vote it’s E-1 and hammer range for Not_Mafia so the need for a claim by this point isn’t out of the question.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I mean if we’re going to kill Anya anyway. Then the difference between outing a PR and eliminating a PR is vital. Since if they make a believable PR claim we get a pseudo conf!town and scum are forced to nightkill them rather than us just doing the scum a favour and limming the PR for them.

Ok this is kinda elementary. I feel silly explaining this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i'm an all powerful all seeing death wielding destruction bringing apocalypse incarnate of a vt

Do you think there are scum on your wagon?

this is a grand mystery

Ok, just lim this

Ok that's funny.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: not mafia

ok you want some quality content luca let me lay it on you

geraintm is always town this game because as i understand it he's using this game as an example that he refuses to do anything much day 1 and tries to end it as soon as possible

i don't think he ever picks a wolf game for that to be the first time he tries to make that point
because 1 - it will get him yooted probably
and 2 - in future games he does it people will be more likely to yoot him

it goes against the whole treehouse he's trying to craft

Top is kinda ew tone.

Not_Mafia vote is just you voting a non-contributer, while simultaneously you have also been an non-contributer.

i'm an all powerful all seeing death wielding destruction bringing apocalypse incarnate of a vt

Do you think there are scum on your wagon?

this is a grand mystery

This is an lolcatting response.

i think dats is wolf this game

Because??

[NorwegianboyEE]

Kinda want an response, kinda just want to vote you. This feels like a classic scum caught response to being wagoned.
VOTE: Anya

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anya feels like literally scum!me. Doing nothing but coasting, and then when caught doing it tries to fake some content and calls some townslot scum just to pretend like they have reads while voting another lurker because they don't want to effort actually attacking someone with higher activity than them.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why did you think their claim was believable IV?

[NorwegianboyEE]

if I’m scum Anya is probably more likely to be town lol this is a classic scum!innocentvillager WK situation.

Well yes.
I was in fact considering this.
But you mentioning it makes me feel to be a bit bold if true?

[NorwegianboyEE]

It feels a bit too bold from you?*

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you come here with that logic every scum in the future will just claim VT.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm a sucker for tone reads but "Wouldn't they claim PR"?? Could go either way so i really don't consider it much.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm imagining this wacky fade out sequence and then the camera points to Iconeum on the toilet reading a magazine.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Basically it’s the classic: "scum defending a doomed town to look good when they inevitably flip" tactic IV is suggesting they would likely do if they were scum and Anya town here.
But it also seems a bit bold for IV to put our attention on this if he’s scum as i said earlier. So leaning town...maybe...ish?

[NorwegianboyEE]

On that topic. George, can you explain why you think Anya is playing similarly to their towngame so i know you’re not just talking out of your ass? I’m too busy to check Anya’s previous game right now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I find how consistently inactive George is to be scummy - he makes a post every day or two, just keeping himself out of prod range, and immediately disappears again. It seems somewhat calculated like he’s deliberately just doing enough to remain in the game

Honestly i agree.
We’ve got what now? George prod dodging by saying Anya town and then leaving? And not elaborating whatsoever why that is other than posting some link to a game?

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: GeorgeBailey
Ok Luca, IV. Let’s get some wagon competition going. Still not really townleaning Anya, but am disliking George so why not have some wagon competition.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’d vote to kill Anya but i feel like George’s post could be indicative of town!Anya if George is scum?
If it’s George’s scum partner, then it is at the very least. An extremely poor defense.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well. I feel like George is scummy, not by meta since he usually at least chooses to play when i’ve been scum with him. But just in general because wtf is he doing if town. At least fucking play.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Actually there was that one game where he posted consequently a lot of posts in a short time period, and then went inactive. Which is kinda similar to the pattern exhibited here.
Achievement unlocked mafia. Check that for his scum meta. viewtopic.php?f=84&t=83676

[NorwegianboyEE]

Maybe he was relatively active there too though?
Tbh my view on George isn’t that great in hindsight since i don’t think i’ve even had any past games with him where he was town?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nice one IV. Woohoo! *Clap clap*

...Why the hell am i in your "PoE" -,-

[NorwegianboyEE]

im pretty sure im out of scumrange by now tbh

You were, but now you're scummy again for making this post.

[NorwegianboyEE]

In Anya/George I think George is Mafia. Anya's initial posts feel like are coming from Town.

VOTE HIM

[NorwegianboyEE]

This has been Norwee. Ciao.

[NorwegianboyEE]

How can I sort between the likes of George, Alice, NM, Anya

Feel like George's been actually scummy. While N_M is a headache.
Anya's been voted by a lot of people so there are a lot of associations to draw from an elimination there.
Alice umm idk.

[NorwegianboyEE]

how am i supposed to bop you if you don't have solid scumreads >:(

Isn't that a good reason to bop someone in theory though?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Am i misunderstanding you?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I mean i don't really have a strong preference in reality. I think all of Alice/George/N_M are viable eliminations at this point. We just need to agree on one. I want George but if any of Datisi/Luca want one of the other i can change my vote there. As long as they are sure on their read i'll possibly trust their judgement.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i am getting a growing feeling deep in my soul that mr blight does not have our best interests in mind </3

Why?

[NorwegianboyEE]

But like, is it a 'read' or should i pretend it's not there and treat it like a meaningless whisper from the wind.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Though i'm already kinda doing the latter to be completely honest.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ugh this feels theatery.

[NorwegianboyEE]

There’s nothing more devastating than a townbloc containing Datisi

and

Luca Blight

Clearly the answer here is to auto-lim Datisi if Anya flips green

If ever Luca or Dats for some kind of reason flips scum. Plz consider scum theatre here, but vote George today plz k thanksss.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Dude i don’t feel like typing while on the bus.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I see George’s hammered and it put a smile on my face. That’s all i’d say anyway.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Vote Count 1.17 FINAL

GeorgeBailey

(6) -> Gypyx, NorwegianboyEE, innocentvillager, Luca Blight, Iconeum, Wooper, geraintm

HAMMER

Anya

(2) -> VP Baltar, Datisi

Not_Mafia

(1) -> Iconeum

Gypyx

(1) -> GeorgeBailey

Luca Blight

(1) -> Anya

Wooper

(1) -> Not_Mafia

innocentvillager

(1) -> AliceK

Day ends in (expired on 2021-04-24 18:32:00)

I was going to use this to help read the game, but Ico is mentioned twice?

[NorwegianboyEE]

And there is a Mafia one time Strongman in this game, i have been informed of this fact.

My first thought is that given those flips this seems correct.
Not that it changes much of my read though.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I haven’t gone through the game to the extent i wanted yet but i’m fairly confident Luca is always town here. IV too maybe.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Gypyx
Blatant Luca sheep.

Also, as weird as Anya’s play has been. I feel like this flip really does spew her town in a weird way. Because i don’t think she interacts with a scum partner in this way.

[NorwegianboyEE]

George, Icon, gypyx would be my guess for the team rn

Yeah sounds like a good PoE.
I’m not super convinced VP is cleared but i can lean town on them for now.

Ico, care to explain why this flip makes you town? I could maybe entertain that kind of argument but it depends a lot on the way it’s presented for me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh wait N_M is in this game.

Scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah I would like to know what are possibilities for 2nd kill as I don't know all possible roles.

Um vigilante? I don’t think there’s anything else.
Oh i did see a town weak hider in a normal setup once. But Wooper was not that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@NorwegianBoy In scale 1 to 10 how would you score your scum gameplay?

Ummm 2?
Extremely bad.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Maybe someone thinks i’m better but i really don’t have faith in my scumgame lately. I usually can’t keep active and just lose interest in the game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Bussing Day 1 is usually an awful idea, but I think with a low activity slot like George who had 2 prods you can hard commit to bus.

Sure i can see bussing as an possibility for a slot like George. But i’f you scumread me then i’m not going to accept: "it is possible you bussed" as the only reason to suspect me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

They were both scumreads

If you didn’t claim vig i’d prob scumread you now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ico what do you think about Baltars reads?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Do you disagree you shouldn't be PoE here? I don't feel like you've been very townie, and instead of focusing on how town u are by meta (which was already said to be something you tend to do as scum anyway?) why not tell us who the scum are if it's not you?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Your read on Gypyx too would be appreciated.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m not smart enough to even understand what that post means.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yes let’s sheep N_M. We’ll win for sure.
Their Wooper read was 10/10.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: luca

Mehhh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Incredibly bad Luca push.
Why is he scum?? Just because he is pushing you Ico?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwegian, can you give me a sanity-check on the above?

It seems weird as fuck to me but maybe I'm missing something here

Tbh it didn’t really bother me? What bothered me the most was that it seemed like he was just spamming irrelevant content instead of saying things that matter like their reads and why they’ve supposedly been so townie.

[NorwegianboyEE]

you've literally JUST seen scum me in action

you've literally JUST seen how i try to take control of a town as scum

you've literally JUST seen how i do NOT kill datisi until late in the game as scum

and you try to sell this is my scumgame????????

no way ur this dense as town

So because you didn't kill Datisi early on there that means you'd act the exact same way here? And the same way wrt general play when there are multiple players from the same game here?

Give over

Did Datisi express a townread on Ico?

[NorwegianboyEE]

im pretty clearly not scum lol -_-

Aite, we got him.
IV scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

+1 Not_Mafia - don't buy the vig claim, but that'll sort itself so it's as a "yeah i'm willing to leave em alone for now" token

Wait...you think he is lying about killing wooper?

i think he's lying about being the vig

Why on earth would anyone lie about being the vig unprovoked on day 2?
Oh wait, it’s N_M. Sure, why not.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee, it's weird that Ico & gypyx are both townreading each other, right?

Also, what's your take on IV?

I’ll answer this when i’m not on the bus. Just so you know i’m not ignoring your question.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ah yes of course.
How stupid are all those that didn’t get it was a VT crumb.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t think scum would claim PR here when we so far have claims as:
Informed / Doctor / Roleblocker / Vigilante
Doesn’t leave much room for anything else, assuming it’s all legit. (Which i do think is the case)

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok so regarding IV i’m not as confident on him as i am on Luca/Baltar. But i’m leaning town. I’ll probably only reconsider there if any of Gypyx/Ico are not scum.
My PoE right now is prob those two, and if that fails, Anya/Alice. And after that i guess IV or some other deepwolf but that is not an comfy world i hope i’ll need to consider, and George flipped scum anyway so i’m feeling pretty confident in my reads.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t think Ico’s read on Gypyx is very well developed which gives me vibes of criminal behaviour. And Gypyx’s townread on Ico is questionable too.
Ico thinks Luca is scum for what exactly? I wish he could elaborate further because none of it felt convincing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

you've done nothing but try to scumspew me all day

datisi literally said he would have a solid townread on me after seeing GB flip scum so trying to paint that i benefit from a datisi kill is just either a terrible take or scum shading me

I mean it’s really just Luca explaining why it’s possible for scum!you to kill Datisi though? And that you haven’t been as town outside of that very minor point you brought up about you never killing Datisi as scum.
How does it make Luca scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

What’s even the vote count?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t see my vote going anywhere other than Gypyx or Ico today.
VOTE: Iconeum

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not_mafia...you going to vote someone?

He’s waiting for the hammer.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Lol it is just you and I playing this game at this point. Luca, if you are scum, I will be very annoyed.

It’s more like you two have the most spare time out of everyone.

[NorwegianboyEE]

in what world is omgus scum!indicative

ever

Umm. What?
I mean if a scum player get’s scumread hard by a relatively townie player it often happens that they OMGUS. And sure, town can also OMGUS an relatively townie player. But most of the time it’s just pretty blatantly scummy. I really didn’t like your Luca scumread for example since i think he’s been fairly town and your push looked pretty nonsensical and scummy as an result. You do seem to have began considering he’s not scum though. But i’m not sure if that’s because you realize you could be wrong or you just realize that like literally nobody agreed with you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

IV what the hell are you doing. I didn't think you were that scummy but those recent posts are awful.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't really feel like Ico's towntold so i'm not really understanding why Gypyx is gaining votes again.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Thing is, you're not the one that decides you have been obvtown. But understand the frustration, assuming it's not just an fake outburst.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I've got an idea, we'll vote whoever Anya says is brilliantly town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t really want a hammer yet and i have no idea how many votes are on who atm.
UNVOTE:

[NorwegianboyEE]

How many votes on Ico? Can i kill him?

[NorwegianboyEE]

on another note, kinda wanna see where an alice wagon could go, maybe it's too late though?

Yes.
I don't see my vote going on IV when we have 1 hour left and this wagon is just sitting here.
I still dislike Ico's Luca push. It was really scummy, and idk about Alice tbh but i like Ico a lot better as an elimination for today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

1 day left* Not 1 hour.

[NorwegianboyEE]

it's also a lot less than i previously thought. But actually i think like, he might not have individual posts truly out of scumrange (i mean, not that many people do) but the overall vibe I got was, invested in a way that scum wouldn't be? it's really hard to explain. like there were moments during the game i just felt he was towny. and moments i went like "why am I townleaning him again?"

Is that the only reason you townread me?

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Ico is scum then i think either Gypyx or IV could be aligned and scum double bussed an useless teammate with Iconeum. I'm also a bit paranoid about Geraintm masterminding an early informed claim and defending Ico here but that's some big tin foil hat theory i'm not really going to take too seriously.
VOTE: Iconeum
If Ico town then i will need to re-evaluate. Possibly scum are outside of the initial George wagon.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Was there a need to hammer while we're still discussing, Norwee :/

It didn't seem all that important.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I am a Cop and Anya is Town.

Really? Why did you target Anya?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m at work so don’t expect much effort from me. But i honestly think this kill points to some outlier like Geraintm. I’m thinking it’s perfectly possible he bussed George and then tried, and failed. To protect Iconeum from the hang.
VOTE: Geraintm

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why do people playing MAfia need to go looking for something 27 times more unlikely than the simpler explanation?

And the simpler explanation is?

[NorwegianboyEE]

You were also really opposed to the George elimination before *begrudgingly* hammering him. And you also opposed Ico elimination yesterday.
I think it’s a lot more likely than you’re making it seem that you’re scum here.
This is literally going against my previous read on you, because it just feels like you’ve defended scum all this time.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And you killed IV because you felt Ico’s death spewed him town.
Boom, game solved.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Geraint prob felt intimidated by the playerlist and came up with a informed stunt using his teammates role to now get immediately PoE’d or eliminated early. As he voiced as his direct reason for claiming what he did on his first post.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Geraint prob felt intimidated by the playerlist and came up with a informed stunt using his teammates role to not get immediately PoE’d or eliminated early. As he voiced as his direct reason for claiming what he did on his first post.

Ebwop

[NorwegianboyEE]

iconeum - mafia 1 shot roleblocker

Erm, he was a strongman, not a roleblocker

I'm wondering if this is a slip of what the other scum PR is, as a scum RB would make sense here

Seems weird for Geraint to forget this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The informed part isn’t even something scum wouldn’t know.
It’s actually a really obvious fake claim in hindsight and i feel kinda dumb for thinking it was town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

and i love that my effort to change my playstyle, not do what i normally do in being hesitant in voting people off...has come back to people wanting to vote me off because i was hesitant to vote for people

i did try and change, honest, i just clearly cannot

It's because your stances are weird.

You go against your principles to hard-defend george and say you won't vote him, only to suddenly hammer him when he's at E-1? That's the reason I said I was paranoid of you early D2, because I could easily see that being a scum move.

Yeah pretty much.
I don’t think anyone else makes as much sense as scum other than Geraint here.
Though i’d be open for Geraint to enlighten us who the supposed scum is if he isn’t. Though he seems to not have much to say, which kinda fits my image of an weaker scum team that got dominated through the discourse.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Tbh, if i was cop then the last person i’d check is Anya. That’s the main thing i find sus about Alice.
I do believe Anya is spewed town though. As either Alice is scum fake claiming a true result or Alice is cop with an actual real result. Either way Anya town, the only issue is if Alice’s claim is trustworthy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

We get at least 3 chances to hit final scum so i'm not too concerned regardless, but i feel like an Geraint elimination would be better than Gypyx today.
What is you felt was townie from Geraint these latest pages Baltar?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Geraint, i can’t take you aeriously when you actually suggest me and Luca are scum here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Elim geraint

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mainly because they have fought against every scum elimination, and you're literally just saying "too scummy to be scum!".

[NorwegianboyEE]

I feel like that assumes this was a competent scum team. When we have eliminated 2 so far.

[NorwegianboyEE]

God, what are we waiting for?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Didn’t Ico also vanity wagon Luca at EOD?

[NorwegianboyEE]

thats the hammer.
i am going to flip green.
you have some twilight now to work out what to do - see if you can plan anything with the cop investigation and the potential vig - i don't know how limited they were in their use.

Lim Gypyx then?

[NorwegianboyEE]

You said you are flipping green.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What are your death reads? Luca scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Omg mod, when do we get the flip.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Part of me wants to just vote Gypyx but let’s think about this a bit first.

So N_M claimed vig. I’m assuming one-shot since we’ve only had one kill so far. Alice claimed cop with modifier. Their N2 target died tonight.
Do you have any new results today Alice?

Only cleared town so far is N_M but Baltar and Luca are townie by play.
Unless it’s Alice pulling some sort of gambit it can really just be Gypyx here?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like why didn’t Alice die?