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Post Post #21 (isolation #0) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:47 am

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VOTE: Koba
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Post Post #115 (isolation #1) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:41 pm

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In post 24, bugspray wrote:
In post 4, T3 wrote:There is probably one flagbearr and ome goon. Because it is nightless I see no reason why not I will claim VT. THere is likely 1 flagbearer and a goon.
Claiming VT gives scum a better PoE pool to find our King, this is a bad idea
Yep, that was a bad claim. I don't think it comes from scum though? They have nothing to gain from randomly claiming VT.
In post 27, T3 wrote:
In post 24, bugspray wrote:
In post 4, T3 wrote:There is probably one flagbearr and ome goon. Because it is nightless I see no reason why not I will claim VT. THere is likely 1 flagbearer and a goon.
Claiming VT gives scum a better PoE pool to find our King, this is a bad idea
Nightless.
If scum narrow down who our king is then if there's enough of them or enough suspicion on that person they could just convince us that person is scummy and then eliminate them.
In post 55, Andante wrote:wtf we're actually supposed to solve these? Is koba scum gaining powers with each one they solve?
I'm just as surprised. I honestly thought Koba was just clogging the thread with chess rather than content but I guess I have to take that thought back.
Too bad my chess game is very rusty and I've also never used dice tags on the forum :neutral:
In post 67, bugspray wrote:all this puzzle talk really is doing the opposite of what we want to happen
That's what I'm saying. But now I kinda wanna solve one
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Post Post #123 (isolation #2) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:44 pm

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Someone wanna give someone who has never used dice tags a super quick rundown?

If winning actually gets you something I want to try
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Post Post #128 (isolation #3) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:47 pm

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In post 124, Andante wrote:it doesn't get you anything but a point on the chart
This is closed so we don't really know that

Pedit: I mean using the dice tags. I have no idea how they work. I've never played chess online
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Post Post #146 (isolation #4) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:57 pm

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In post 132, Andante wrote:
In post 128, Raya36 wrote:
In post 124, Andante wrote:it doesn't get you anything but a point on the chart
This is closed so we don't really know that

Pedit: I mean using the dice tags. I have no idea how they work. I've never played chess online

that chart is exactly like Pooky's pagetop counter, so I'm pretty certain it's not game related lol

idk the tags
Oh alright, I was unaware Pooky did stuff like this without it having an affect
In post 134, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Clarification:

solving puzzles will not result in anything game related. it is purely for fun and glory/flavor.
Ok in this case I will ignore the chess games. Someone should teach me sometime, it's been a while since I've played.
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Post Post #153 (isolation #5) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:59 pm

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I don't really understand Andante's scumread on Isis

Town build wagons too so we can get reaction just like Andante gave us. If anything I'd slight townread Isis for it
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Post Post #160 (isolation #6) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:02 pm

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In post 155, Andante wrote:Town doesn't rush towards throwing people at E1
You were at E-1?
Maybe I miscounted but I thought E-2 which is acceptable
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Post Post #163 (isolation #7) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:04 pm

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They voted and said E-2

So Isis was E-2, Koba brought it to E-3, whoever voted again brought you back to E-2 if I'm not mistaken
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Post Post #167 (isolation #8) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:06 pm

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I double checked, I think I'm right.

Why did you panic?
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Post Post #171 (isolation #9) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:07 pm

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Maybe but you couldn't have felt you were in any real danger. Scum wouldn't quick elim you even if you were at E-1
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Post Post #237 (isolation #10) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:52 pm

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In post 172, Andante wrote:yes I felt like I was in danger lol
I mean if you were quickelimed and are town that person would be eliminated the next day. So scum wouldn't do that, and town shouldn't do that. Basically what I'm trying to say if your scumread on Isis really doesn't make much sense
In post 178, DkKoba wrote:
In post 171, Raya36 wrote:Maybe but you couldn't have felt you were in any real danger. Scum wouldn't quick elim you even if you were at E-1
i can link you to so many games where scum just quickhammer .. its usually a scum thing to do and it happens often
This early on in the game and this early in the dayphase? And just to be eliminated the next day? I didn't think that was very common
In post 181, flow trap wrote:
In post 178, DkKoba wrote:
In post 171, Raya36 wrote:Maybe but you couldn't have felt you were in any real danger. Scum wouldn't quick elim you even if you were at E-1
i can link you to so many games where scum just quickhammer .. its usually a scum thing to do and it happens often
There's no night kill; a 1 for 1 doesn't sound as good as a 2 for 1

Idk what the benefits of quick hammering day 1 is for scum so perhaps I'm not qualified :igmeou:
Yeah and there's this too
In post 182, Andante wrote:
In post 181, flow trap wrote:
In post 178, DkKoba wrote:
In post 171, Raya36 wrote:Maybe but you couldn't have felt you were in any real danger. Scum wouldn't quick elim you even if you were at E-1
i can link you to so many games where scum just quickhammer .. its usually a scum thing to do and it happens often
There's no night kill; a 1 for 1 doesn't sound as good as a 2 for 1

Idk what the benefits of quick hammering day 1 is for scum so perhaps I'm not qualified :igmeou:

It's so easy to go "oops didn't realize E1" or "yeah I also SRed X" and everyone would just believe it
I personally would still vote that out.
In post 216, Virgo wrote:Why are you not as bothered at being at E-2 as you were the first time?
At the same time, this doesn't appear to be in good faith. I thought we established it was because Andante thought they were E-1 and panicked. This is a bad push with that in mind.
In post 228, Andante wrote:the motivation behind virgo's push on me doesn't feel towny.... but ok :/
I agree with this actually

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Post Post #242 (isolation #11) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:58 pm

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In post 240, Virgo wrote:YOU established that Raya -- who is this collective 'we'? I notice how you're trying to frame it as a like, weird perceived town vs. me thing.

I thought that initially Andante was towny for reasons I touched on, and then explained why I thought otherwise.
I say we because it was discussed in thread. Even if it was my conversation, andante still said it for everyone else to see.
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Post Post #249 (isolation #12) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:33 pm

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In post 243, Virgo wrote:But why are you taking it at face value. Saying it was 'established' is trying to make it out to be a hard fact.
I just don't think your push was in good faith when the reason was already discussed. Your shade was essentially just asking the same question I asked which as answer to was already given.
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Post Post #299 (isolation #13) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:24 pm

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In post 250, Virgo wrote:You're missing the point if you think that, at the core, my only concern is that Andante was panicked.

I care more about the order in which those emotions were expressed, and why certain ones were expressed after that incident.
Yes, and I was concerned with Andante panicking too. But after they explained they panicked at E-2 because they thought they were at E-1, I stopped pushing the fact that they panicked at E-2 and instead pushed the idea of panicking at E-1.
In post 255, Andante wrote:yeah there’s a very simple answer for my reaction lmao i’m town. town doesn’t wanna get limmed
I mean same goes for scum
In post 271, Virgo wrote:Raya's scum, she's setting up an us/them mentality against me, lmao.
Are you talking about the "we" in we established. Because you were intended to be a part of that "we"
In post 284, DkKoba wrote:im actually 3rd party my wincon is
solve as many puzzles as i can and if i reach a certain number the game ends and i solo win
Honestly, I'd believe it
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Post Post #306 (isolation #14) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:26 am

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In post 301, Isis wrote:Virgo is town no matter what Andante is

I'm trying to make sure it's not just bias from liking her playstyle but I think there's actual town AI stuff in her methodology
Can you explain because I'm not seeing it
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Post Post #320 (isolation #15) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:24 am

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In post 311, bugspray wrote:feels to me like is more trying to sow doubt than actually get a good faith answer
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I genuinely want to see where I'm wrong if I am. I don't want to tunnel virgo this early if that's what's happening
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Post Post #392 (isolation #16) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:30 pm

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In post 331, DkKoba wrote:i think the fact that t3 is convinced theres only 2 scum is a townslip

with 9p and nightless and a flagbearer on both sides i would say that 3 scum is the most likely.
I wouldn't be that quick to call it a townslip. We don't know for sure there are 3.
In post 372, Isis wrote:The progression from 175-179 is pretty town indicative and difficult to emulate.

Virgo asks if Andante is experienced at mafia, which I also wondered and which most people probably wondered. Andante doesn't make two posts, but doesn't answer
As scum I would expect virgo to re-assert the question. Letting the question get dropped is "scummy" for being disingenuous (but at the tack of analysis I'm taking doesn't actually indicate a scum alignment).

Virgo continues reading and or thinking during the five minutes that Andante didn't address the question and comes up with a different conclusion, even though the experience data point never came in. This points a lot to deductive instead of inductive reasoning patterns, a buzzword the_worst uses about taking a stance where the evidence leads you vs. taking a stance, then making sure you can fit the evidence to align with it. The request for information would create a pause in a development of new stances for scum!virgo induction but is less consequential for town!Virgo's deductions since the reread of what Andante already posted can stand on its own meaning

It's hard to ask if someone is experienced as scum and not plan out what to do with either answer
You mean Virgo's thought in 179 based on the posts before? I think that's the strongest point they made but I don't see why scum can't do that.

I mean, dropping question is scummy for a reason. This just comes down to how aware scum!virgo is of the questions she asked and how careful she's being to not appear scummy

The last point makes sense. I don't townread virgo because of it but I'll drop the scumread UNVOTE:
In post 376, T3 wrote:VOTE: Raya
I'm down for this, mosrly based on PoE.
PoE already?
In post 391, T3 wrote:
In post 384, Isis wrote:
In post 376, T3 wrote:VOTE: Raya
I'm down for this, mosrly based on PoE.
Do you usually make PoE votes in this phase of the game, sir?
9 players, a few obvtowns, yeah.
Who are the obvtowns?
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Post Post #394 (isolation #17) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:05 pm

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I wish
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Post Post #410 (isolation #18) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:05 pm

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In post 400, T3 wrote:bugspray's play already seems very different to electoral college mafia basically in the way it reads.
Koba has been very towny and I honestly don't think scum would wifom pres.
Can you explain what about it feels different?

I don't feel strongly one way or the other on Koba so that sounds like a good wagon to me VOTE: Koba
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Post Post #413 (isolation #19) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:32 pm

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In post 411, DkKoba wrote:
In post 410, Raya36 wrote:
In post 400, T3 wrote:bugspray's play already seems very different to electoral college mafia basically in the way it reads.
Koba has been very towny and I honestly don't think scum would wifom pres.
Can you explain what about it feels different?

I don't feel strongly one way or the other on Koba so that sounds like a good wagon to me VOTE: Koba
yes please 1v1 me
Sounds exhausting but let's do it

My biggest impression of you rn is you're playing a lot more chess than mafia. Tell me why you aren't scum hiding behind the chess.
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Post Post #419 (isolation #20) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:40 pm

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In post 416, DkKoba wrote:
In post 413, Raya36 wrote:
In post 411, DkKoba wrote:
In post 410, Raya36 wrote:
In post 400, T3 wrote:bugspray's play already seems very different to electoral college mafia basically in the way it reads.
Koba has been very towny and I honestly don't think scum would wifom pres.
Can you explain what about it feels different?

I don't feel strongly one way or the other on Koba so that sounds like a good wagon to me VOTE: Koba
yes please 1v1 me
Sounds exhausting but let's do it

My biggest impression of you rn is you're playing a lot more chess than mafia. Tell me why you aren't scum hiding behind the chess.
tell me why being into the setup theme makes me scum
It doesn't. I think the mechanics are cool and if I knew how to use the tags I'd try a puzzle or two. But the majority of your posts being around the puzzles is scummy
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Post Post #423 (isolation #21) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:52 pm

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How is that not scummy? You're hardly posting content, making the thread harder to read, while still appearing active
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Post Post #426 (isolation #22) » Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:00 pm

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In post 424, DkKoba wrote:this is chess mafia. play chess or gtfo
I would if I could :cry:
In post 425, DkKoba wrote:ur abusing the fact im super into the theme in order to shitpush me - you have done this kind of push in the past when you were scum which confirms my scumpings about you. this kind of push meaning you latch onto some NAI bullshit part of my game and try to frame me as scum.
I don't doubt that you're genuinely into the theme. I just think you can be into the theme and also posting more content at the same time
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Post Post #444 (isolation #23) » Sat May 01, 2021 2:25 am

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In post 427, DkKoba wrote:i literally have been simultaneously playing the game and making stances/comments about the game.
Up until you asked to 1v1 me you had 72 posts.

For content you have:
-A rvs vote
-You said andante town stonks are going down
-Voted virgo in response to them saying they want to solve and not play chess
-A post about controlling mafia's kill
-Said andante attempted a pocket
-Voted me
-Said you could link me to games with quickhammers
-"^this" to a post
-2 more posts on the quickhammers
-Asked how many scum we think there are
-Asked Andante what they think of me
-Said you think I'm scum
-Said you're tunneled on me
-Said you TR virgo
-Asked people to vote me
-Said I'm potentially the flag bearer
-T3 townslip
-Mech stuff

That's 19 posts out of 72 and some were 1 word or 1 vote or very short lines
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Post Post #446 (isolation #24) » Sat May 01, 2021 2:26 am

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In post 432, DkKoba wrote:if pooky stops posting puzzles ill be more inclined to tryhard more and focus on the overarching game


if im scum im more likely to be panicking harder because theres a flagbearer that isn't me that i need to somehow hardcarry - bc clearly if im scum im not the flagbearer
How do you think the scum flagbearer is playing?
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Post Post #447 (isolation #25) » Sat May 01, 2021 2:28 am

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In post 445, flow trap wrote:I feel attacked
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Post Post #449 (isolation #26) » Sat May 01, 2021 2:33 am

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In post 448, flow trap wrote:
In post 447, Raya36 wrote:
In post 445, flow trap wrote:I feel attacked
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It was a joke, 70% of my posts are one-liners every game
You have more game related content and you're not entirely reactive as bugspray pointed out about Koba
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Post Post #454 (isolation #27) » Sat May 01, 2021 3:56 am

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I know flow traps post was a joke but I kinda weakly TR them for it
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Post Post #471 (isolation #28) » Sat May 01, 2021 4:51 am

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In post 461, Virgo wrote:That being said: there's a part of me that thinks Andante actually leans slightly towards town for how other people are rallying around them?
I'm leaning towards this. I think town!Andante genuinely sees those protecting them or whatever to be in good faith and easily townreads people who do that
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Post Post #473 (isolation #29) » Sat May 01, 2021 4:58 am

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Oh ok, I misread but my point still stands
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Post Post #487 (isolation #30) » Sat May 01, 2021 6:57 am

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In post 477, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 187, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 68, DkKoba wrote:andante town stonks going down...
Don’t you mean “stock”?
It's just a meme. It means stock
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Post Post #501 (isolation #31) » Sat May 01, 2021 8:27 am

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In post 494, DkKoba wrote:also if you actually look at my content i give a solve, am confident in that solve, and am pushing the game in the direction of said solve. To say im not trying to play is dishonest and the only reason raya is trying to pull that is bc i am v interested in the puzzles and the theme and happen to be pushing on her
Take a look at my scum games and see how often in the first couple day phases I go up against someone who's pushing me
In post 496, DkKoba wrote:
In post 444, Raya36 wrote:
In post 427, DkKoba wrote:i literally have been simultaneously playing the game and making stances/comments about the game.
Up until you asked to 1v1 me you had 72 posts.

For content you have:
-A rvs vote
-You said andante town stonks are going down
-Voted virgo in response to them saying they want to solve and not play chess
-A post about controlling mafia's kill
-Said andante attempted a pocket
-Voted me
-Said you could link me to games with quickhammers
-"^this" to a post
-2 more posts on the quickhammers
-Asked how many scum we think there are
-Asked Andante what they think of me
-Said you think I'm scum
-Said you're tunneled on me
-Said you TR virgo
-Asked people to vote me
-Said I'm potentially the flag bearer
-T3 townslip
-Mech stuff

That's 19 posts out of 72 and some were 1 word or 1 vote or very short lines
Yes and? Posting style is 100% nai for me LMAO you know i can rapid fire fake analysis for many posts especially on d1
Yes, I do know you can do that, and you tend to rapid fire analysis regardless of alignment which is why I'm concerned for you lack of this game. To summarize your content posts: some blank votes, losing TR on andante and attempted pocket, controlling maf's kill, quickhammer discussion, discussion about me, TR virgo, T3 townslip, mech
That's not a lot for you for 21 pages in
In post 499, Andante wrote:
In post 491, DkKoba wrote:I said andante is scum

I'm scum trying to tell people I think you're town? whatever

VOTE: Koba
This supports my point on Andante
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Post Post #513 (isolation #32) » Sat May 01, 2021 10:48 am

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In post 504, Andante wrote:tbh that's a weird shot though, like, it wouldn't come from town cause we were voting koba, that doesn't make sense, I'd believe scum, but which scum would shoot Koba there??
That was almost for sure a town shot, I don't see why you're trying to figure out who it was in thread like that
In post 510, flow trap wrote:I agree that it's almost definitely not a town shot since they are almost lycheed anyways
Wait why do you think scum wants to shoot Koba right now? They were a viable miselim with what was happening around that slot.
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Post Post #514 (isolation #33) » Sat May 01, 2021 10:49 am

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(I want to vote Andante but not bring to E-1 so consider my vote there)
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Post Post #517 (isolation #34) » Sat May 01, 2021 10:59 am

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Why do you think that was a shot from scum T3?
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Post Post #519 (isolation #35) » Sat May 01, 2021 11:04 am

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So you don't think there was town motivation. But what is the scum motivation to make that shot?
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Post Post #566 (isolation #36) » Sat May 01, 2021 12:01 pm

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In post 522, flow trap wrote:
In post 514, Raya36 wrote:(I want to vote Andante but not bring to E-1 so consider my vote there)
There are only 2 votes on them cause of the reset, I thought
Right, I counted 3 because I forgot about the reset
In post 523, flow trap wrote:
In post 519, Raya36 wrote:So you don't think there was town motivation. But what is the scum motivation to make that shot?
To frame you or Amy

Cause DK was starting to put up a fight

To disrupt
Maybe but it still doesn't feel right. Why wouldn't scum wait and get out someone highly townread
In post 527, Andante wrote:uhhh speed wagoning me is stupid, I am the king, I also have a vest
Wait isn't claiming this not a good idea?

I'm very confused
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Post Post #574 (isolation #37) » Sat May 01, 2021 12:04 pm

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idk I'm very confused. Andante is claiming town king which is the only player scum needs to eliminate to win right? Claiming that seems like a bad idea to me but I'm very lost
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Post Post #580 (isolation #38) » Sat May 01, 2021 12:07 pm

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In post 576, flow trap wrote:Raya, do you know the "I am confused" card is scummy?
I know but I'm confused so

I doubt elimination is the only way scum can kill you though?
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Post Post #590 (isolation #39) » Sat May 01, 2021 12:30 pm

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In post 581, Andante wrote:thus we need to find the black king in as few moves as possible
Agreed.

Also thinking back to the shot, it probably was scum shot. Way too risky for town to shoot like that without a claim and our white king out there
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In post 580, Raya36 wrote:
In post 576, flow trap wrote:Raya, do you know the "I am confused" card is scummy?
I know but I'm confused so

I doubt elimination is the only way scum can kill you though?

scum has guns. we don't know the number of scum, they'll shoot randomly till they have majority... we're down to 8 now... T3 is still pushing for me to be directly limmed... as if that'll happen... I think we have at most 2 lims to find a scum.. preferably their king... what if you all just mass claimed then? (only the piece) idk just an idea, like king is actually out, and if 4 people claim knights or something... idk just a thought
I'm half considering T3 to be too scummy to be scum. Kind of bold to be the only one pushing to elim the claimed white knight? Unless of course that is the only way to kill you.

I'm not sure about a massclaim actually. Would scum be forced to claim knights so we elim in there and have their knight claim pawn?
In post 589, T3 wrote:It feels like you are trying to draw out the real king andusing thebulletproof thing to justify you not getting shot.
I thought you thought the shot came from scum...
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Post Post #591 (isolation #40) » Sat May 01, 2021 12:36 pm

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VOTE: T3
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Post Post #593 (isolation #41) » Sat May 01, 2021 12:38 pm

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I changed my mind when his case involved scum!you claiming BP to try not to get shot by scum!dayvig
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Post Post #596 (isolation #42) » Sat May 01, 2021 12:44 pm

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I was thinking it was T3 at first too but I don't have any backing for that
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Post Post #599 (isolation #43) » Sat May 01, 2021 12:59 pm

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I don't think T3 is the king if he is scum
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Post Post #664 (isolation #44) » Sat May 01, 2021 4:34 pm

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In post 609, T3 wrote:I don't think I was clear.
scumdante claims king. scumdante survives a few days. town wonders why scumdante hasn't been shot. town lims scumdante. I think Andante is scum trying to aboid that by claiming bulletproof.
Ok I understand your case now. My vote stays though for you trying to push a king claim
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In post 637, T3 wrote:Other than the way Amy is speaking, her thin ISO reads towny.
every singe pedit for the last 10 minutes:#StopT3Abuse
so amy is town, bug is town, virgo is town, raya is town, assuming im town,

that just leaves flow and Isis. You think flow + Isis is the team?


hey flow, told you T3 was gonna go for you lol
What if I said I think flow is town :)
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Post Post #666 (isolation #45) » Sat May 01, 2021 4:50 pm

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This is a really dumb reason but when I was calling out Koba for their one liners and lack of content, flow joked by saying they felt attacked. Then specified it was a joke when I asked but because they do the same as Koba post-style wise. But why does scum!flow call themselves out like that completely unprompted?
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Post Post #668 (isolation #46) » Sat May 01, 2021 4:58 pm

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Yeah, flow could have gotten by without doing this catchup since they were technically here the whole time
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Post Post #670 (isolation #47) » Sat May 01, 2021 5:04 pm

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My pool is still quite large. I think T3 is scum, but not the king, and then 2 more scum in this pool

{Amy Dunne, bugspray, Isis, Virgo}

I need to reread these 4. I'll do that tomorrow
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Post Post #710 (isolation #48) » Sun May 02, 2021 3:51 am

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In post 685, T3 wrote:
DkKoba wrote:T3 townslip
Raya36 wrote:T3 townslip
You quoting that with no context looks really really bad for you
In post 392, Raya36 wrote:
In post 331, DkKoba wrote:i think the fact that t3 is convinced theres only 2 scum is a townslip

with 9p and nightless and a flagbearer on both sides i would say that 3 scum is the most likely.
I wouldn't be that quick to call it a townslip. We don't know for sure there are 3.
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In post 427, DkKoba wrote:i literally have been simultaneously playing the game and making stances/comments about the game.
Up until you asked to 1v1 me you had 72 posts.

For content you have:
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-T3 townslip
[redacted]

That's 19 posts out of 72 and some were 1 word or 1 vote or very short lines
In post 501, Raya36 wrote: Yes, I do know you can do that, and you tend to rapid fire analysis regardless of alignment which is why I'm concerned for you lack of this game. To summarize your content posts: some blank votes, losing TR on andante and attempted pocket, controlling maf's kill, quickhammer discussion, discussion about me, TR virgo, T3 townslip, mech
That's not a lot for you for 21 pages in
Those were the only times I mentioned the "townslip"
In post 690, bugspray wrote:so raya isn't actually calling it a townslip and it's just dkkoba who did?
Yeah
In post 697, bugspray wrote:do we want to elim our potential queen? like assuming isis is scum!dayvig then i'd hope town!dayvig shoots her and then we are 5v2 nightless with bearers
I agree. We should leave Isis for this reason
In post 705, Isis wrote:I never said the dayvig corresponds to the queen chess piece, I think Andante and bugspray just scumslipped together lol

There must be a black queen
Where's the scumslip?
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Post Post #713 (isolation #49) » Sun May 02, 2021 4:00 am

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In post 711, bugspray wrote:the slip is me saying "elim our potential queen" and she thinks that it must mean i'm scum and know that the scum dayvig is called a queen and "let it slip" instead of just guessing the nbame of the role because of the theme
No that's actually a decent point. Of all chess pieces I wouldn't have thought queen for a vig. I would expect knight. Or maybe rook.
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Post Post #717 (isolation #50) » Sun May 02, 2021 4:31 am

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In post 715, Andante wrote:
In post 713, Raya36 wrote:
In post 711, bugspray wrote:the slip is me saying "elim our potential queen" and she thinks that it must mean i'm scum and know that the scum dayvig is called a queen and "let it slip" instead of just guessing the nbame of the role because of the theme
No that's actually a decent point. Of all chess pieces I wouldn't have thought queen for a vig. I would expect knight. Or maybe rook.
I'd also like to point out Isis accused me of slipping as well... I just went along with bugspray.. I mean king is bulletproof, I'd believe queen gunned
I'm not considering yours a scumslip if it is that. Scumslips are pretty rare so I'm not even fully convinced for bugspray but it is a good point
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Post Post #719 (isolation #51) » Sun May 02, 2021 4:37 am

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The slip is that scum!bugspray knew the flavour for a vig is queen
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Post Post #722 (isolation #52) » Sun May 02, 2021 4:57 am

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Why does there have to be a queen?
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Post Post #735 (isolation #53) » Sun May 02, 2021 7:01 am

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Pretty sure Isis more meant sheeping
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Post Post #782 (isolation #54) » Sun May 02, 2021 1:24 pm

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I'm very confused on Isis' claim. Can someone unvote her so we don't get an elim before an explanation?
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Post Post #816 (isolation #55) » Sun May 02, 2021 4:30 pm

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In post 783, Isis wrote:I am white queen I thought my statements already should make it clear I'm hard claiming that. I got one dayvig shot and there was ainimum ount of RL time before I could shoot it
Alright. I'll think on this a bit. Claims and slips are hard
In post 786, Isis wrote: Maybe we should just eliminate Andante cause we are inevitably going to be about to elim someone claiming flagbearers at some point and the slot is just so wolfy
Bad idea

Andante's panic felt very genuine but also scumking!andante could panic the same way and then claim to explain the panic as a last resort. Either way we should never elim there today

If Isis was the scum vig this would be very risky because the chances of a town vig as well are high. So I think Isis is ok.

Flow probably did scumslip. The flavour isn't obvious to be assumed like that. Andante didn't scumslip. I believe that they just took what Flow said at face value
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In post 806, Virgo wrote:Man, I just find the concept of a king with a BP so weird, like.

You're king, outting when you're wagoned, sure. That's fine and I get it but why out the vested part after knowing there's a dayvig like that? You don't know their alignment, etc.

I told yall, I figured from the start scum was gunned because of my vest, thus, I'm not certain on Isis's claim here... To me it makes 0 sense for us to have a vig and scum not to
What makes you say scum doesn't have a vig?
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Post Post #832 (isolation #56) » Mon May 03, 2021 3:51 am

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In post 817, Andante wrote:
In post 816, Raya36 wrote:What makes you say scum doesn't have a vig?

I'm saying there's no way scum doesn't have one... it's nightless
Ok that makes more sense. Apparently I can't read because you said that very clearly oops
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In post 816, Raya36 wrote:
In post 783, Isis wrote:I am white queen I thought my statements already should make it clear I'm hard claiming that. I got one dayvig shot and there was ainimum ount of RL time before I could shoot it
Alright. I'll think on this a bit. Claims and slips are hard
In post 786, Isis wrote: Maybe we should just eliminate Andante cause we are inevitably going to be about to elim someone claiming flagbearers at some point and the slot is just so wolfy
Bad idea

Andante's panic felt very genuine but also scumking!andante could panic the same way and then claim to explain the panic as a last resort. Either way we should never elim there today

If Isis was the scum vig this would be very risky because the chances of a town vig as well are high. So I think Isis is ok.

Flow probably did scumslip. The flavour isn't obvious to be assumed like that. Andante didn't scumslip. I believe that they just took what Flow said at face value
In post 808, Andante wrote:
In post 806, Virgo wrote:Man, I just find the concept of a king with a BP so weird, like.

You're king, outting when you're wagoned, sure. That's fine and I get it but why out the vested part after knowing there's a dayvig like that? You don't know their alignment, etc.

I told yall, I figured from the start scum was gunned because of my vest, thus, I'm not certain on Isis's claim here... To me it makes 0 sense for us to have a vig and scum not to
What makes you say scum doesn't have a vig?
If flow was the first person to equate vigs to queens I am out here wanting to kill whoever started to equate queens to vigs.

VOTE: flow trap
Correction. It was bugspray, not flow
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In post 818, Isis wrote:If flow was the first person to equate vigs to queens I am out here wanting to kill whoever started to equate queens to vigs.
Step 1: Iso me
Step 2: Control+F
Step 3: Search Vig+Queen
That's my bad, I got my players and events confused
In post 825, Isis wrote:VOTE: Raya why you lie to me
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Post Post #833 (isolation #57) » Mon May 03, 2021 3:53 am

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Something I've been thinking which might be a stretch. What if Isis is the scum!vig and Bugspray is the town!vig and his slip was a townslip and not a scumslip and Isis is hoping to get him eliminated before they shoot at each other at night.

Someone let me know if that's too much of a stretch
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Post Post #840 (isolation #58) » Mon May 03, 2021 4:13 am

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In post 834, Andante wrote:
In post 833, Raya36 wrote:Something I've been thinking which might be a stretch. What if Isis is the scum!vig and Bugspray is the town!vig and his slip was a townslip and not a scumslip and Isis is hoping to get him eliminated before they shoot at each other at night.

Someone let me know if that's too much of a stretch
a. there's no night

b. I could definitely see that, but Isis went to E-1 and bugspray wasn't voting Isis
a. Right, but same idea still.

b. Then probably not. That makes no sense with bugspray scum too actually.
In post 836, Isis wrote:
In post 833, Raya36 wrote:Something I've been thinking which might be a stretch. What if Isis is the scum!vig and Bugspray is the town!vig and his slip was a townslip and not a scumslip and Isis is hoping to get him eliminated before they shoot at each other at night.

Someone let me know if that's too much of a stretch
Bugspray is a they. Please pay that mind.
Apologies Bugspray, I'll be more careful
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Post Post #843 (isolation #59) » Mon May 03, 2021 4:16 am

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So if you think it's Isis then what do you think of Bugspray knowing the flavour for a vig is queen
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Post Post #845 (isolation #60) » Mon May 03, 2021 4:17 am

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But why would you just default to saying queen. Why would you give the vig any flavour without knowing instead of just calling it a vig
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Post Post #849 (isolation #61) » Mon May 03, 2021 4:24 am

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In post 847, Andante wrote:
In post 845, Raya36 wrote:But why would you just default to saying queen. Why would you give the vig any flavour without knowing instead of just calling it a vig
I mean, to be fair, I claimed vested king lol gunned queen isn't a far stretch
But it makes 0 sense to assume queen when you can just say vig.

And Isis' claim makes no sense from scum. What was the point in claiming.

VOTE: Bugspray
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Post Post #853 (isolation #62) » Mon May 03, 2021 4:53 am

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In post 850, Andante wrote:Did Isis shoot Koba cause koba called you scum Raya?
That wouldn't make sense anyway. I wasn't anywhere near being in danger and Koba was only calling me scum because I was calling them scum in a way that looks similar to my scum games.
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Post Post #874 (isolation #63) » Mon May 03, 2021 10:45 pm

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In post 863, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 861, Isis wrote:
In post 857, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 825, Isis wrote:VOTE: Raya why you lie to me
What did she lie about?
she said flow trap said that queens are vigs, but bugspray was the first to say so.

I had already decided to shoot whoever bugspray said when I asked bugs. The timing of the shot was based on my minimum, I wasn't allowed to dayvig until 4 RL days had passed
Raya, why did you say Flow said that instead of bugspray?
Yes
In post 864, Amy Dunne wrote: Is that all you have to say to that is “oops”?
I mean it was an honest mistake. Idk what else to say

Why would I lie about something as scum that can be so easily confirmed
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Post Post #888 (isolation #64) » Tue May 04, 2021 11:43 am

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In post 877, Andante wrote:Raya refusing to hammer Isis was interesting... flipping to bugspray doesn't make much sense..

VOTE: Raya
We have a week left. And I'm not convinced anyway.
In post 879, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 874, Raya36 wrote:
In post 863, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 861, Isis wrote:
In post 857, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 825, Isis wrote:VOTE: Raya why you lie to me
What did she lie about?
she said flow trap said that queens are vigs, but bugspray was the first to say so.

I had already decided to shoot whoever bugspray said when I asked bugs. The timing of the shot was based on my minimum, I wasn't allowed to dayvig until 4 RL days had passed
Raya, why did you say Flow said that instead of bugspray?
Yes
In post 864, Amy Dunne wrote: Is that all you have to say to that is “oops”?
I mean it was an honest mistake. Idk what else to say

Why would I lie about something as scum that can be so easily confirmed
In post 873, Amy Dunne wrote:
In post 825, Isis wrote:VOTE: Raya why you lie to me
You say it’s not scum indicative but you’re still voting her. Why?
What I don’t get is why you didn’t just say that at the time? And Isis both voting and then defending you is even weirder.
I thought "oops" clearly showed I made a mistake
In post 883, Amy Dunne wrote: Raya, you should claim.
Are you claiming intent to hammer?
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Post Post #891 (isolation #65) » Tue May 04, 2021 12:27 pm

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White pawn
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Post Post #1025 (isolation #66) » Thu May 06, 2021 4:52 am

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Good game everyone! Thanks Pooky
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