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Post Post #191  (isolation #0)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:51 am

V/LA until Monday

On holiday atm but will try to do bits every now and then

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Post Post #194  (isolation #1)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:57 am

VOTE: innocentvillager

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Post Post #287  (isolation #2)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:01 pm

Datisi Town
Norwee Town
Geraint Town

IV scum

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Post Post #288  (isolation #3)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:03 pm

Baltar possibly scum

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Post Post #290  (isolation #4)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:14 pm

George’s long post is +scum imo

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Post Post #299  (isolation #5)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:03 pm

In post 292, VP Baltar wrote:Calling town reads quick on folks who might be argumentative and calling IV scum when he's being silly, plus OMGUSing slightly cause I poked him.

Sounds like Luca is scumming it up on the path of least resistance over there.


I have a lot of experience with Datisi and Norwee and they both seem Town so far

Scum can be silly too

My opinion on you has nothing to do with Omgus, and is more in line with what Norwegian touched on before - you’re commenting on stuff but not really doing anything with it. Right now you’re assuming motives behind my reads without even bothering to question them

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Post Post #302  (isolation #6)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:27 pm

It’s not too early to get an idea of his alignment

You’re really stretching the meaning of ‘Omgus’ there

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Post Post #306  (isolation #7)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:47 pm

In post 303, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 302, Luca Blight wrote:You’re really stretching the meaning of ‘Omgus’ there

I stated your vote was bad, and suddenly I'm on your scum list a short time later. Not sure what definition they taught you in scumhunting school....


So my read on you must be due to that comment alone?

You are one of about three or four people I’ve said I suspect so far, and I’m not even voting you. There’s absolutely nothing to suggest it’s Omgus, and it doesn’t seem in good faith how you’re trying to portray it as such

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Post Post #307  (isolation #8)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:49 pm

In post 304, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 302, Luca Blight wrote:It’s not too early to get an idea of his alignment

Do you consider Datisi a good player as either alignment?


Yes

In post 305, VP Baltar wrote:Follow up, what have you seen from Datisi that is not fakeable as scum?


Nothing specifically, I just feel he’s Town so far. Call it a gut feeling. I’m on holiday and don’t feel like doing detailed analysis rn

What has IV done so far that isn’t fakeable?

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Post Post #310  (isolation #9)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:14 pm

Can you quote specifically what you’re talking about regarding IV?

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Post Post #312  (isolation #10)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:28 pm

I disagree that it draws confrontation - the smileys are basically intended to prevent that

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Post Post #421  (isolation #11)  » Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:49 am

In post 419, innocentvillager wrote:ok

yeah im just kinda meh about everything here rn. i don't really have a strong opinion on anyone other than geraint rn. i don't feel like making a readslist rn is helpful for me personally. i think i just need to see more stuff. like there are people whose alignments will just kind of become clearer over time {Wooper, Datisi, Ico, Luca, maybe Norway} and im okay waiting for that


I thought you said you had a read on me?

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Post Post #426  (isolation #12)  » Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:51 am

In post 399, AliceK wrote:
In post 299, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 292, VP Baltar wrote:Calling town reads quick on folks who might be argumentative and calling IV scum when he's being silly, plus OMGUSing slightly cause I poked him.

Sounds like Luca is scumming it up on the path of least resistance over there.


I have a lot of experience with Datisi and Norwee and they both seem Town so far

Scum can be silly too

My opinion on you has nothing to do with Omgus, and is more in line with what Norwegian touched on before - you’re commenting on stuff but not really doing anything with it. Right now you’re assuming motives behind my reads without even bothering to question them


What kind of experience? What would you expect them to do as scum in this game?


I’ve always been able to read them correctly in previous games, although sometimes it takes a bit of time

I don’t think it would be a good idea to say what I’d expect from them as scum this early on

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Post Post #427  (isolation #13)  » Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:54 am

In post 422, innocentvillager wrote:i wouldn't call it a strong opinion yet


but .... what is the opinion?

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Post Post #430  (isolation #14)  » Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:57 am

In post 428, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 426, Luca Blight wrote:I’ve always been able to read them correctly in previous games, although sometimes it takes a bit of time

How confident are you in your Datisi town read currently?


Datisi just feels effortlessly Town so far and I feel pretty comfy with it. I’ll have to examine him closer after my V/La tho I’m sure

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Post Post #435  (isolation #15)  » Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:10 am

VOTE: Alice

Starting to feel IV might be Town

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Post Post #437  (isolation #16)  » Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:14 am

My reads aren’t so rigid

I don’t SR you as of right now. Alice has a wagon on her and I haven’t liked any of her posts

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Post Post #440  (isolation #17)  » Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:19 am

Not activity related. More his approach to me as well as his post above talking about his own play pinged me as Town

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Post Post #527  (isolation #18)  » Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:35 pm

In post 442, innocentvillager wrote:like why can't i be scum actually putting a decent amount of effort to emulate my townplay like this and taking a free chance to genuine self-meta there


Idk it felt kinda genuine in the moment

Obviously you could be scum doing as you described, but the aim of the game is to make subtle distinctions between the possibilities at hand

Why did you call me out for this reasoning but not Baltar for his reasoning for tr’ing you earlier?

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Post Post #599  (isolation #19)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:19 am

In post 500, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 453, VP Baltar wrote:Alice, are you an alt?

In post 502, AliceK wrote:
In post 500, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 453, VP Baltar wrote:Alice, are you an alt?


Nope.


Any follow-up on this, Baltar?

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Post Post #608  (isolation #20)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:37 am

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

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Post Post #610  (isolation #21)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:41 am

Ftr I still suspect Alice but want to explore other options given we still have a lot of time remaining

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Post Post #614  (isolation #22)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:45 am

I’m not happy to end the day when some players have barely said anything...

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Post Post #616  (isolation #23)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:47 am

Norwee has your opinion on IV changed

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Post Post #617  (isolation #24)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:49 am

In post 615, Gypyx wrote:fair, but that doesn't really require you to unvote or anything


I know, but I feel it’s better to mix things up a bit while there’s still time in the day regardless

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Post Post #628  (isolation #25)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:38 am

In post 625, geraintm wrote:
In post 599, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 500, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 453, VP Baltar wrote:Alice, are you an alt?

In post 502, AliceK wrote:
In post 500, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 453, VP Baltar wrote:Alice, are you an alt?


Nope.


Any follow-up on this, Baltar?

did there need to be?


I’d have thought so, given it seems directly related to Baltar’s read on Alice/her IV vote

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Post Post #675  (isolation #26)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:39 am

My holiday is over but now my schedule is up in the air due to covid lockdowns, so I’m not sure how active I’ll be going forward but I’ll try my best.

Town:

Datisi, IV, Norwee, Baltar, Geraint

That’s kinda where I’m at right now. I don’t have any significant sr’s at this point and am still waiting for certain players to start doing stuff

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Post Post #677  (isolation #27)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:51 am

I’ve been liking his posts more generally but I guess is the main one

He called Datisi v Icon the same way as I saw it, and I have reservations over Icon rn for the same reasons

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Post Post #678  (isolation #28)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:02 am

In post 668, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 664, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 659, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 632, innocentvillager wrote:also @you and @Ico @anyone else what cares, why is Norway town? quoting past posts is fine

Plus town points to IV here.

I was just thinking as I'm catching up from the overnight pages: "Where the hell is Norway? He was very active early on and then faded into the background once the game actually got rolling."

Don’t hit me with this shit.
I’m working a FULL TIME JOB. Dealing with children. I can’t be as active as usual. That does NOT equate scum and i’d rather just let everyone know right away that this is not how to read me in this game.

i don't liek making reads like this but honestly the sheer offense Norway took to this feels townie


fwiw I agree with this (both in that it’s townie and in that i also don’t generally like basing reads on such things)

It really reminds me of Norwee’s outburst in our last game together when he was town

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Post Post #679  (isolation #29)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:03 am

In post 670, Gypyx wrote:
In post 668, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 664, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 659, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 632, innocentvillager wrote:also @you and @Ico @anyone else what cares, why is Norway town? quoting past posts is fine

Plus town points to IV here.

I was just thinking as I'm catching up from the overnight pages: "Where the hell is Norway? He was very active early on and then faded into the background once the game actually got rolling."

Don’t hit me with this shit.
I’m working a FULL TIME JOB. Dealing with children. I can’t be as active as usual. That does NOT equate scum and i’d rather just let everyone know right away that this is not how to read me in this game.

i don't liek making reads like this but honestly the sheer offense Norway took to this feels townie

You're saying scum doesn't get offended by that? 'cause i disagree


While this might be objectively a reasonable point, I feel as though it’s +scum in that it’s trying to break up potential town unity

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Post Post #682  (isolation #30)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:39 am

My reads are always changing and evolving, i just don’t always talk about it especially when I’m V/La

I liked Norway’s early posting. I started to waver a little around the time I switched from you to Alice and he was sitting on his IV vote while seeming to resist the Alice wagon a little, but his recent outburst struck me as townie as i mentioned

He hasn’t done a great deal so far (neither have I tbf) but it just feels like Town!norwee to me so far

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Post Post #683  (isolation #31)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:41 am

I’m pretty confident in all my townreads rn

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Post Post #687  (isolation #32)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:50 am

Point 1) it’s not necessarily scummy in of itself, but I could see a possible scum agenda behind it, specifically from a Norwee/Alice s/s perspective as she was very much a person of interest at that moment from where I was standing and it warranted some attention. Norwee was sticking on you while questioning me for leaving your wagon, without really doing anything to push your wagon forward or respond to my reasoning for why I changed my read on you. It feels a bit silly detailing this given I actually tr Norwee rn tho

Point 2 I’ll need to reflect on a little

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Post Post #688  (isolation #33)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:51 am

In post 686, innocentvillager wrote:lmao my north of null list is the exact same as Luca's idk if that's a good or bad thing.


I sense a townbloc forming

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Post Post #690  (isolation #34)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:02 pm

There’s nothing more devastating than a townbloc containing Datisi and Luca Blight

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Post Post #691  (isolation #35)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:04 pm

Although there’s no telling which alignment will end up devastated

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Post Post #694  (isolation #36)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:15 pm

In post 692, Datisi wrote:aaand i am already paranoia-scumreading you

that's a sign of a healthy townblocc!

pedit: i meant the first line as a joke please stop making it a reality


I think it’ll always be a reality in every game we’re in

That’s the price I have to pay for whoopin’ you so severely in the kpop game, but it’s a price worth paying

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Post Post #695  (isolation #37)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:18 pm

In post 693, Datisi wrote:
In post 683, Luca Blight wrote:I’m pretty confident in all my townreads rn

why are you confident in your read of me?


I can just feel that you’re Town, I’m not sure I want to elaborate too much on it right now

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Post Post #696  (isolation #38)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:19 pm

It’s like you’re not even trying to be townie but are just naturally obvtowning

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Post Post #698  (isolation #39)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:21 pm

I don’t want you to become really aware of your own meta so I can keep using these tells in the future

I can be selfish like that sometimes

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Post Post #699  (isolation #40)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:23 pm

I have some tells on Norwee as well that I also don’t want to reveal

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Post Post #700  (isolation #41)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:24 pm

I had one on Menalque in the previous game that flipped my read on him from scum to obvtown in an instant, which proved to be correct

Ok now I’m just boasting

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Post Post #705  (isolation #42)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:50 pm

In post 701, Datisi wrote:figured that was gonna be the answer

try to obvtown before the day ends, yeah?


Don’t worry, you’ll be firmly in my pocket by sunset

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Post Post #735  (isolation #43)  » Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:56 am

Let’s hear the tinfoil hat theory, George

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Post Post #736  (isolation #44)  » Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:02 am

In post 727, VP Baltar wrote:As far as opinion on Luca, I don't think a lot has shifted. Waiting to see more substance. Fine with my vote there for the time being.


I don’t know what more you’re expecting rn tbh

Why do you scumread me again?

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Post Post #737  (isolation #45)  » Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:04 am

731 generally makes me feel better about my GeorgeBailey vote

I’m really interested in hearing what this tinfoil theory is though as that could change everything

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Post Post #745  (isolation #46)  » Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:10 am

In post 742, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 736, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 727, VP Baltar wrote:As far as opinion on Luca, I don't think a lot has shifted. Waiting to see more substance. Fine with my vote there for the time being.


I don’t know what more you’re expecting rn tbh

Why do you scumread me again?

Because you've given very mainstream opinions on events that avoid getting into disagreements with verbose players.

In fairness, I should ISO you today and see if that still holds because I'm struggling to remember your opinions since early game.


Well I’ve developed some pretty strong townreads, and most of the players I don’t townread are barely posting, so again I don’t really see what more you’re expecting right now

Just to clarify, who are the ‘verbose players’ you’re referring to?

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Post Post #748  (isolation #47)  » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:14 am

VP Baltar wrote:
In post 745, Luca Blight wrote:Just to clarify, who are the ‘verbose players’ you’re referring to?

It was Datisi and Norwee at the time.

Like, you can go look at my post about this.

As far as expectations, I expect you to earn a town read by pushing the game forward. You said you'd be obv town by EOD today, right?


And what do you make of my progression on Norwee that I described to IV?

You seem to agree with my Datisi read somewhat now

I don’t think I’ve said I would be obvtown by the end of this day? Others might have said it about me, though. I’m going to have limited time to play for the rest of this day at least but it’s not something I’m particularly worried about either

How can I push the game forward when players I suspect aren’t posting? I’ve questioned George, what more do you expect me to do here?

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Post Post #752  (isolation #48)  » Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:06 am

Datisi, do you agree with my townbloc?

I can’t remember if you answered this already

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Post Post #755  (isolation #49)  » Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:24 am

I think there’s almost certainly two scum in those players and quite possibly three

Maybe Wooper as well, but I’m leaning slightly Town on him atm

George + Anya + Icon/NM is what I’m currently feeling

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Post Post #766  (isolation #50)  » Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:10 pm

In post 763, Gypyx wrote:
In post 755, Luca Blight wrote:I think there’s almost certainly two scum in those players and quite possibly three

Maybe Wooper as well, but I’m leaning slightly Town on him atm

George + Anya + Icon/NM is what I’m currently feeling


Any reason that ico / NM are a mutually exclusive duo or just bottom of your scumreads?

developement on Anya would also be pretty appreciated, especially cuz she hasn't strayed from her normal shitposting / memeing style


Anya has been really low-key, plus she’s sitting on my wagon based on my SR on George, when her George tr was apparently not real

Yes, Icon/NM are the weaker scumreads

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Post Post #787  (isolation #51)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:27 am

Reminds me of Trendall - so frustrating obstinate

We can lim scum today if we actually play in a positive manner, rather than just rushing through a random lim which will always benefit scum

Imo D1 is the most important day of the game, as it’s the foundation that the game is built on. A shitty, rushed D1 nearly always leads to a scum win.

Imo we need to start pressuring the likes of George and Not_Mafia to do stuff before the time runs too low on this day. I don’t get why people are voting Icon over George rn and imo we need more votes on George

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Post Post #789  (isolation #52)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:38 am

I do think Anya is likely scum as well tbh, she seems to have zero real opinions this game

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Post Post #792  (isolation #53)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:59 am

sigh

I miss the days when you’d bet your life on me being Town based on such mind-melding

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Post Post #797  (isolation #54)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:15 am

Geraint, you’re a consensus Town read which means your vote has added importance. Use it wisely

You have reason to suspect George, why not join us on this wagon? Let’s make something substantial happen, rather than just settling for whatever lim conveniently gains momentum

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Post Post #810  (isolation #55)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:00 am

In post 807, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 806, Datisi wrote:are you trying to rush me?

Just saying that "IDK" is less tenable position as the day goes on.


That seems to be your position as well right now though?

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Post Post #814  (isolation #56)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:17 am

I don’t see much difference between your and Datisi’s positions tbh. Neither of you are particularly confident in your reads (especially your scumreads) which is understandable in this gamestate

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Post Post #815  (isolation #57)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:19 am

In post 812, Datisi wrote:
In post 810, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 807, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 806, Datisi wrote:are you trying to rush me?

Just saying that "IDK" is less tenable position as the day goes on.

That seems to be your position as well right now though?

why do you keep writing out the things i think before i do


It must be the universe’s way of showing you I’m Town

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Post Post #821  (isolation #58)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:48 am

I could see George and gypyx being partners actually

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Post Post #825  (isolation #59)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:58 am

In post 822, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 821, Luca Blight wrote:I could see George and gypyx being partners actually

Because Gypyx is being kind awkward about George?


Also based on George’s post where he voted gypyx. It felt a bit off, and gypyx’s response seemed a bit strange as well like they were distancing but treating each other with kid gloves. George’s vote wasn’t particularly threatening as no-one else was voting gypyx and no-one is likely to sheep George.

Gypyx then limps onto this George wagon without conviction. It seems like possible half-hearted bussing to me

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Post Post #827  (isolation #60)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:00 am

In post 823, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Btw Wooper, is you choosing to play as Wooper relating to you wanting to have a less serious playstyle than when you're playing as 'The Worst' or is that just my imagination?


I’ve played with with ‘Wooper’ once before and he started slow but came good later on in the game as Town (no gimmick tho as far as I recall)

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Post Post #831  (isolation #61)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:10 am

Why?

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Post Post #839  (isolation #62)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:58 am

Datisi’s Town-spewing rn and I’m suspicious of Gypyx for still sitting on the fence wrt Datisi

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Post Post #843  (isolation #63)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:04 pm

The gamestate sucks tbh and always will when there are multiple players barely contributing

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Post Post #847  (isolation #64)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:07 pm

In post 844, VP Baltar wrote:Luca, what's your take on how the George wagon built given you were the first vote?


I’ve already said I suspect gypyx, don’t like his vote and could see him and George being s/s

Don’t particularly like Wooper’s vote or recent play either

The rest seems fine

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Post Post #854  (isolation #65)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:10 pm

How do you read me right now, Baltar?

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Post Post #856  (isolation #66)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:12 pm

I’m open to considering gypyx but I’m not changing for no reason. I need to see more from George and want to hear his tinfoil theory

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Post Post #861  (isolation #67)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:17 pm

In post 858, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Luca why is Baltar in your townblock?


I’ve liked some of his posts, I think I talked a little about this earlier. Maybe I’ll go into more depth tomorrow when I have more time. He is the one I’m least sure of in my townbloc though

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Post Post #862  (isolation #68)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:19 pm

In post 859, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 854, Luca Blight wrote:How do you read me right now, Baltar?

I went back through your iso. I think it's OK. I'm trying to determine if you're pocketing Datisi or really what your obsession with getting a townread from him is.

Overall, I don't think I want to yeet you today now. You're still a little uncontroversial, but I think you're trying to find your footing. There are objectively better choices today and you seem like you're going to play...which is good and means your alignment should clear up for me eventually.


I’m not obsessed with getting a townread from Datisi - I would like one because I fully believe he is Town and it would be good to create some unity there. I also find it quite amusing how paranoid he is of me now so like to wind him up a bit from time to time

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Post Post #957  (isolation #69)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:50 am

Any reason you’re not voting George?

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Post Post #977  (isolation #70)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:44 am

We’re 39 pages in, George has 4 posts (and had 2 at the time of my ‘naked’ vote) and you’re calling the wagon shit for lack of reasoning?

What do you expect when the guy in questions has so little content? At what point is it ok to start pressuring the players who aren’t doing anything?

These are exactly the sort of slots that need sorting sooner rather than later. What’s even more bizarre is that Geraint actually agreed that George’s latest post was scummy and yet is taking this stance in defence of George and basically giving him a free pass

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Post Post #981  (isolation #71)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:57 am

In post 938, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I find Trendall pretty easy to play with tbh. Never understood the issue you have with him Luca.


He’s so negative and just likes to crap on people who are actually trying to solve the game. It didn’t help that I was playing three simultaneous games with him at the time and in all three we were both Town. I was sick to death with his attitude by the end of it.

I honestly don’t know why people bother playing Mafia if they believe it’s impossible to acquire reads and solve the game through discussion and interaction

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Post Post #982  (isolation #72)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:59 am

The only thing that makes it impossible IS that very attitude, and players lurking/not doing anything which unfortunately is what’s happening here

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Post Post #983  (isolation #73)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:09 am

In post 961, geraintm wrote:
In post 957, Luca Blight wrote:Any reason you’re not voting George?

im still catching up.

and going to break my vote longest wagon rule. not voting george. i think the wagon stinks.

i am not saying george can't be scum - they have as much change as anyone else in this game - but i am not (right now) going to help people eliminate them

VOTE: aliceK instead


And the guy who says the George wagon stinks due to naked votes goes ahead and places a naked vote of his own on the next biggest wagon

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Post Post #987  (isolation #74)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:15 am

In post 959, geraintm wrote:like....George has only made 2 half assed posts out of their 4...but that is still more than some people in the game
it isn't like they are ignoring this game whislt posting elsewhere.
george is an easy push from people.


This is just scraping the bottom of the barrel

The only player who has less content is Not_Mafia, who has a reputation for being pretty useless as either alignment most of the time. George, as you said yourself, has actual scummy content among his four posts

It might be an ‘easy’ push but it’s also a necessary one. I’d quite happily vote both George and NM if I were able to but a choice has to be made

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Post Post #988  (isolation #75)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:16 am

In post 985, geraintm wrote:
In post 983, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 961, geraintm wrote:
In post 957, Luca Blight wrote:Any reason you’re not voting George?

im still catching up.

and going to break my vote longest wagon rule. not voting george. i think the wagon stinks.

i am not saying george can't be scum - they have as much change as anyone else in this game - but i am not (right now) going to help people eliminate them

VOTE: aliceK instead


And the guy who says the George wagon stinks due to naked votes goes ahead and places a naked vote of his own on the next biggest wagon

I know right! What a wild and crazy guy!


What a numpty, more like

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Post Post #992  (isolation #76)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:48 am

VOTE: Anya

I’m just going to sheep Datisi from now until the end of time

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Post Post #996  (isolation #77)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:12 am

First one: George made a pretty empty post disguised by its length, which is a common scum tactic. His comments on geraint seemed like he was just trying to find something to talk about that made it look at though he was thinking about the game, but it was superficial

His last post: basically copying things that others have said, safe stances and not an original thought amongst them. Again making a long post to compensate for that. His tinfoil theory on me might have been of interest, but it feels like he’s just stalling the day out at this point

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Post Post #1002  (isolation #78)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:21 am

I want to say ftr that Baltar’s more recent posts haven’t sat well with me and I’m less sure on my read on him now

I’ll probably explain this at some point but I don’t feel like doing so rn

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Post Post #1006  (isolation #79)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:27 am

geraintm wrote:
In post 987, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 959, geraintm wrote:like....George has only made 2 half assed posts out of their 4...but that is still more than some people in the game
it isn't like they are ignoring this game whislt posting elsewhere.
george is an easy push from people.


This is just scraping the bottom of the barrel

The only player who has less content is Not_Mafia, who has a reputation for being pretty useless as either alignment most of the time. George, as you said yourself, has actual scummy content among his four posts

It might be an ‘easy’ push but it’s also a necessary one. I’d quite happily vote both George and NM if I were able to but a choice has to be made

Where did I say George was scummy?
Like I'm not sure why I am fighting people who are shading my slot. I'm town. I know I'm town. If I am not and have this super duper scum plan to win this game...I am notngood enough to ever pull that off and there is no way anyone is going to let me survive an end game. So....dunno what else to say right now


I’m not shading you - I think you’re Town. I just disagree with your reasoning and general approach to the game

You definitely said something negative about George’s most recent post that implied a scumread/suspicion. I can’t recall the exact wording

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Post Post #1040  (isolation #80)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:27 am

I guess I can see why you might make that association, George.

In reality I was on holiday when the game started, and am generally limited in how much time I have to play compared to normal which is why I’ve taken more of a backseat this game

Hopefully you can get caught up and start posting more consistently

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Post Post #1096  (isolation #81)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:15 pm

Given how infrequently the lim candidates are posting I feel as though we need to force a claim from someone sooner rather than later

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Post Post #1097  (isolation #82)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:22 pm

Atp I couldn’t care less who we lim out of {George, Anya, Not_Mafia}

I wouldn’t particularly mind limming Alice or gypyx either

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Post Post #1098  (isolation #83)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:34 pm

In post 1094, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1084, Datisi wrote:if i were to invite you to vote anya w me and mr blight, what's your response?

I could probably compromise there.


Let’s do it then

IV, Icon and Norwee, you are all formally invited to join the Anya wagon

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Post Post #1104  (isolation #84)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:12 am

In future I’m probably gonna have to only join games where I know everyone involved will be reasonably active, because sorting between multiple lurkers every game isn’t exactly enjoyable

It becomes a game of chance tilted in scum’s favor rather than a game of skill or deduction

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Post Post #1105  (isolation #85)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:16 am

Anyway let’s just get a claim from Anya and go from there. There’s no point waiting around hoping for more content at this stage

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Post Post #1108  (isolation #86)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:36 am

Anya, George, Alice and Not_Mafia have all done very little in terms of actual readable content. Then you have geraint who, while probably town, has no intention of actually trying to solve the game short of mechanical clears and guilties

That’s a big deal when you only get one lim per day and three Mislims until Elo. If all of those slots happened to be Town then it’s already game over. If only one of them is scum then it’s still going to be very difficult

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Post Post #1127  (isolation #87)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:52 am

The feeling is mutual

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Post Post #1128  (isolation #88)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:59 am

The fact you joined the Anya wagon shows you actually agree with 1105 lol

Numpty

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Post Post #1130  (isolation #89)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:04 am

See 1128

What exactly did you hate about my 1105?

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Post Post #1134  (isolation #90)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:09 am

Getting a claim before a D1 lim is standard practice and absolutely necessary

Given you in particular are only able to solve using mechanics this just seems another nonsensical view of yours

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Post Post #1136  (isolation #91)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:15 am

Obviously Anya has the choice of whether or not to claim, but when she is going to be limmed anyway then what is the benefit of not claiming?

If she happens to be a tpr then this is obviously a terrible outcome for Town. How can you not understand that?

Especially in a gamestate when there are numerous scummy slots with little to separate then, a claim is absolutely essential

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Post Post #1139  (isolation #92)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:21 am

Im not saying a player has to claim every time they’re run up?

I’m saying that we’re approaching the end of the day and need to lim someone, and that someone should claim ASAP so we have time to make an educated decision rather than having a last minute scramble on our hands, because the inactive slots in this game are VERY inactive and the time will soon disappear

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Post Post #1141  (isolation #93)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:34 am

Every player in this game is likely to make sound decisions on their own? I unfortunately disagree

So what...we continue without direction and have a mad scramble at the end of the day? Is that a better situation in your mind?

This is a team game. It is optimal for whoever is about to be limmed to claim, and the sooner we get that sorted for the reasons I’ve explained the better. We can’t force them to claim, but if they are Town then this would only be playing against their wincon, especially if they are a tpr

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Post Post #1143  (isolation #94)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:49 am

What answer were you hoping for and what would your read have been?

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Post Post #1146  (isolation #95)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:56 am

geraintm wrote:oh, i am all for not eliminating anyone, don't forget that. That is my preference. I think that is a much better outcome for town than randomly forcing claims from players and still ending with a random elimination at the end of it all.

and i think for meta-Town, some PRs should not claim Day 1 when asked/pressured because it improves meta-Town's odds.

I still stand by my post where i disliked your asking for a claim.

but 100% not sure why you are fighting me so hard on this. you do you. you can keep asking for claims. i am not forcing you to not do that, but you cannot stop me using it as a data point to dislike your slot.


You literally asked me why I didn’t like your post...I’m not fighting you, I’m explaining why. I also don’t ‘keep asking for claims’ - I’m asking for a single claim from a single player before time runs too low to make a considered choice for the lim

How do we ever get information or hope to find and kill scum if we don’t lim anyone?

I find your approach to Mafia bizarre

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Post Post #1149  (isolation #96)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:15 am

Well that really depends on what pr’s Town has, and depends heavily on luck in itself

What if scum kills our strongest pr N1? What’s your backup plan, or is it game over at that point? What if a Town pr gets a false guilty or false positive?

PR’s are a bonus but shouldn’t be relied on to win - it’s better to use information created by pushing wagons, limming players and looking at reactions etc. that’s the whole fun/point of the game for me anyway

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Post Post #1165  (isolation #97)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:55 am

Anya should absolutely be limmed unless she actually produces some significantly townie content

Otherwise I have no interest in running anyone else up today

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Post Post #1166  (isolation #98)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:56 am

No-one has actually unvoted, geraint

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Post Post #1169  (isolation #99)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:00 am

We can only lim one player today.

We have an inactive, suspect slot they has claimed VT and that should objectively be the lim here unless something significant happens in the meantime

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Post Post #1174  (isolation #100)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:03 am

Anya wrote:VOTE: not mafia

ok you want some quality content luca let me lay it on you

geraintm is always town this game because as i understand it he's using this game as an example that he refuses to do anything much day 1 and tries to end it as soon as possible

i don't think he ever picks a wolf game for that to be the first time he tries to make that point
because 1 - it will get him yooted probably
and 2 - in future games he does it people will be more likely to yoot him

it goes against the whole treehouse he's trying to craft


How’s that quality content? Geraint is already a consensus Town read

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Post Post #1179  (isolation #101)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:09 am

Anya what’s your read on me?

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Post Post #1184  (isolation #102)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:12 am

Townreading the consensus VI and scumreading the most obvtown player in the game

It seems like scum who are trying to not give away too much info

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Post Post #1185  (isolation #103)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:13 am

In post 1181, Anya wrote:
In post 1179, Luca Blight wrote:Anya what’s your read on me?

slightly town


You scumread me earlier right? What changed

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Post Post #1188  (isolation #104)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:15 am

In post 1186, Anya wrote:i'm being brutally executed for simultaneously having a consensus and anti-concensus opinion luca?

i'm actually a wagon cop and sorry for fakeclaiming vt earlier

each night i can check a wagon to see if there's any wolves on it


It’s two worthless opinions that won’t affect anything after your red flip

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Post Post #1190  (isolation #105)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:17 am

Why is Datisi scum in your opinion?

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Post Post #1193  (isolation #106)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:19 am

Where did IV disappear to

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Post Post #1197  (isolation #107)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:22 am

You didn’t explain your SR on me but still mentioned it....

What’s the difference?

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Post Post #1198  (isolation #108)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:22 am

And how long have you had your Datisi SR

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Post Post #1203  (isolation #109)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:25 am

Think that’s E-1 now

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Post Post #1205  (isolation #110)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:26 am

Anya, is there any post of Datisi’s that pinged you in particular?

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Post Post #1212  (isolation #111)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:31 am

You seem salty, IV

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Post Post #1217  (isolation #112)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:33 am

In post 1205, Luca Blight wrote:Anya, is there any post of Datisi’s that pinged you in particular?

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Post Post #1219  (isolation #113)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:35 am

In post 1216, innocentvillager wrote:I wouldn’t mind seeing Anya flipped

just gave me a little bit of doubt with the way she claimed it and the fact she’s claiming vt


So basically you’d have this stance no matter what she claimed, as presumably you wouldn’t want to lim a pr claim either

What was it about the way she claimed it?

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Post Post #1228  (isolation #114)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:41 am

Where did Datisi disappear to?

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Post Post #1237  (isolation #115)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:48 am

Can you be a bit more specific about 378 Anya

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Post Post #1239  (isolation #116)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:48 am

I mean

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Post Post #1254  (isolation #117)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:00 am

I was tempted to unvote in order to let the likes of Alice, George and NM chime in

but I have no faith in that actually happening

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Post Post #1259  (isolation #118)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:01 am

Clearly the answer here is to auto-lim Datisi if Anya flips green

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Post Post #1268  (isolation #119)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:08 am

In post 1266, Datisi wrote:
In post 1259, Luca Blight wrote:Clearly the answer here is to auto-lim Datisi if Anya flips green

luca """jokingly""" testing the waters for my misyeet tomorrow

i see you i seeee youuuuu


And ruin the pocket I’ve so delicately cultivated?

Nonsense!

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Post Post #1271  (isolation #120)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:10 am

Has anyone experienced Not_Mafia being this inactive before?

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Post Post #1279  (isolation #121)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:21 am

In post 1273, Datisi wrote:
In post 1268, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 1266, Datisi wrote:
In post 1259, Luca Blight wrote:Clearly the answer here is to auto-lim Datisi if Anya flips green

luca """jokingly""" testing the waters for my misyeet tomorrow

i see you i seeee youuuuu

And ruin the pocket I’ve so delicately cultivated?

Nonsense!

then what was the point of that post?


Payback for this:

In post 864, Datisi wrote:luca i hope you step on a lego

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Post Post #1281  (isolation #122)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:25 am

In post 1276, Datisi wrote:
In post 1270, Anya wrote:actaully dats what's your spirit animal

i don't have one :(


I would say an Elephant as they never forget

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Post Post #1284  (isolation #123)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:30 am

I’m trying to think of what the mean version is lol

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Post Post #1288  (isolation #124)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:35 am

In post 1285, Datisi wrote:you just wanna make me say it lol


I’d take a guess at not being subtle? but that wasn’t what I was implying

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Post Post #1290  (isolation #125)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:45 am

Part of me is tempted to flashwagon Not_Mafia here, but I think we have to be sensible and lim the vt claim

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Post Post #1292  (isolation #126)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:47 am

Because it’s a dead slot and I don’t like having dead slots

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Post Post #1295  (isolation #127)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:51 am

I’ve seen scum claim VT in such circumstances many times. People always assume scum will claim a pr and they get looked on favorably for a VT claim and often survive the day. It also makes it easier for them going forward as they don’t have to fake actions etc

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Post Post #1300  (isolation #128)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:56 am

And even if Anya flips Town it’s not like it’s the end of the world, it gets rid of a dubious slot at least

If we push someone like George or NM and they’re a tpr then that’s obviously a worse outcome. Objectively we’re best off just playing it safe here an offing the VT claim

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Post Post #1306  (isolation #129)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:00 pm

In post 1303, innocentvillager wrote:I mean this is just basic game theory

if your understanding of the meta is town overly trust VT claims then sure I’m full of shit just kill the VT. In my experience most people have your attitude


It’s something that can go either way

In this gamestate scum!Anya might think claiming VT is a good look and it won’t take much to swing it to one of the other inactives

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Post Post #1307  (isolation #130)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:01 pm

I’m actually starting to think Anya is slightly more likely to be Town tbh

But it’s something that needs resolving and I don’t really feel confident enough about it to go pursuing another claim today

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Post Post #1308  (isolation #131)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:04 pm

Anya has had to be significantly prodded for content

I’m not confident that if we leave her alone now she is going to be able to keep it up and we’ll be left in the same position again further down the line

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Post Post #1310  (isolation #132)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:06 pm

It’s not scary, I just don’t think it’s optimal in this gamestate on D1

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Post Post #1313  (isolation #133)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:06 pm

If we run up NM and he claims Vt what do we do?

If he claims tpr what do we do?

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Post Post #1316  (isolation #134)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:11 pm

In post 1312, innocentvillager wrote:why not?


Because we’re risking outing or limming a tpr, pure and simple

Anya is either scum or VT, either way it’s not a terrible outcome

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Post Post #1318  (isolation #135)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:14 pm

If Anya had actually given me significant reason to TR her based on her content I’d probably be voting NM now

but at most I got a slight Town ping from her IV interaction, as well as a scum ping from her more immediate reaction. It’s not enough to justify a switch imo

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Post Post #1319  (isolation #136)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:15 pm

If she feels like making more content then I’m still open to the possibility of changing, but it’s gotta be good shit

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Post Post #1324  (isolation #137)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:27 pm

I think at times like this it’s always interesting to note who’s here and who isn’t

Where’s Icon?

...on that bombshell I bid you all goodnight

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Post Post #1359  (isolation #138)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:23 pm

In post 1350, Datisi wrote:also reskimming the last few pages, i hate all of the reactions to this wagon

i hate that luca is going "achkchually i can kinda see her beign town but idk lol yeet"


How confident are you that Anya is scum right now?

Do you think she should definitely be limmed unless something significant happens, or do you think it’s ok to run up another player or two before the day is out?

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Post Post #1363  (isolation #139)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:55 pm

In post 1361, innocentvillager wrote:Luca are you asking Datisi that to help sort him or are you waiting for his approval to switch to NM?


Neither of the above

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Post Post #1394  (isolation #140)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:20 am

I’m becoming tempted to wagon someone else out of pure boredom

Datisi, would you prefer George or Not_Mafia?

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Post Post #1398  (isolation #141)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:27 am

How do you feel about me, Iv?

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Post Post #1401  (isolation #142)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:33 am

In post 1370, Datisi wrote:ok why did you ask that then?


To make you realize that you’re suspecting me for taking a position that you actually agree with

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Post Post #1404  (isolation #143)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:37 am

Do you feel that way because i obvtowned in the game you modded, Iv?

Because that was a very different gamestate given everyone was active. When the game is flat I also fall a little flat as a result

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Post Post #1406  (isolation #144)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:39 am

but...you’re taking a very similar position yourself? How does that work

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Post Post #1410  (isolation #145)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:45 am

In post 1400, Datisi wrote:
In post 1396, innocentvillager wrote:Datisi how do you feel about Luca rn?

kinda sorta townish but also slightly flat and probably not out of scumrange yet

though i think i noticed a ~pattern~ he does in towngames that he didn't do as scum, though i would have to actually go through a couple isos to confirm, and that's too much effort right now when we're never killing him today anyway so ye


I’m really interested in what this pattern is

Hopefully it’s juicier than George’s anti-climactic tinfoil theory

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Post Post #1413  (isolation #146)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:48 am

Swapsies?

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Post Post #1415  (isolation #147)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:10 am

In post 1365, GeorgeBailey wrote:I think Anya is town!


I feel like what she's doing would cause unnecessary attention as scum. She's also playing a lot like how she played last game where she was town. viewtopic.php?f=11&t=86079&user_select[]=34374


For some reason this post makes me want to lim George but I can’t put my finger on what it is

Maybe it’s the exclamation mark?

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Post Post #1416  (isolation #148)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:18 am

I find how consistently inactive George is to be scummy - he makes a post every day or two, just keeping himself out of prod range, and immediately disappears again. It seems somewhat calculated like he’s deliberately just doing enough to remain in the game

because if you’re busy you might not be able to post consistently but you’re more likely to have bursts of activity, which isn’t happening at all with George here

And then there’s NM who apparently gives no fucks

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Post Post #1417  (isolation #149)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:20 am

It reminds me of Zuko and Shepherd in my scum game, Datisi

Zuko being George and NM being Shepherd

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Post Post #1426  (isolation #150)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:16 am

In post 1421, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1416, Luca Blight wrote:I find how consistently inactive George is to be scummy - he makes a post every day or two, just keeping himself out of prod range, and immediately disappears again. It seems somewhat calculated like he’s deliberately just doing enough to remain in the game

Is this scum meta for George?


I’ve never played with scum!George before but it certainly doesn’t align with his Town meta from what I’ve seen

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Post Post #1428  (isolation #151)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:23 am

In post 1402, innocentvillager wrote:i dont' really have Luca sorted yet which is why i asked

im also ~townish~ on him but i feel like i should have less doubt at this point

In post 1404, Luca Blight wrote:Do you feel that way because i obvtowned in the game you modded, Iv?

Because that was a very different gamestate given everyone was active. When the game is flat I also fall a little flat as a result


Still wondering about this @IV

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Post Post #1439  (isolation #152)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:54 am

Why does it matter whether Anya has or hasn’t been townread this game?

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Post Post #1442  (isolation #153)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:56 am

...so scum would automatically townread each other?

That’s not how the game works. It’s not as if there’s been much reason to tr Anya, and her scum partners would be extra conscious of that fact

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Post Post #1448  (isolation #154)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:03 am

innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1442, Luca Blight wrote:...so scum would automatically townread each other?

That’s not how the game works. It’s not as if there’s been much reason to tr Anya, and her scum partners would be extra conscious of that fact

let me ask you a question Luca

you're scum here with Anya and like one random person like me

is there any reason to let Anya just die here?


That’s not really relevant to whether or not she has been townread

but if I were her partner I’d probably be bussing/distancing right about now. Maybe distancing while trying to pull away onto another lurker. It’s difficult to say really as I’d have to weigh everything up

The fact is that scum are very aware of how they will be perceived later on in the game and generally hope that townies will end up doing their dirty work for them

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Post Post #1454  (isolation #155)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:10 am

In post 1446, innocentvillager wrote:okay better more direct question

do you think scum just lolbussed their troll partner Anya on D1 when it very easily could've been swung onto like, AliceK, GeorgeBailey, Not_Mafia?


Possibly

It’s impossible to answer without knowing who her partners are etc and I don’t like to make assumptions based on such things

Do I think the gamestate implies Anya is Town? Very slightly, yes. but nothing conclusive

I actually feel like limming George instead tbh but idk

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Post Post #1506  (isolation #156)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:33 pm

In post 1479, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 1477, Datisi wrote:
In post 1476, Not_Mafia wrote:Luca is scum btw

n_m? giving reads? more likely than you think

do we also get an explanation with it?


Boring pushes


Unfortunately there are a lot of boring slots in this game that need pushing

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Post Post #1512  (isolation #157)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:35 am

In post 1509, Iconeum wrote:instead of saying my name and then going 'makes me uneasy', 'bad vibes', 'who the fuck is ico' etc

come at me and solve me


You’re not really a priority rn given there are so many slots with little content that need to be sorted. Your alignment will probably become clearer naturally as the game develops, but those slots won’t

I’m suffering from apathy atm and I don’t know how to solve it. My head is telling me to lim Anya because that’s the sensible thing to do here, but part of me wants to run up one of these other dubious slots instead as it might have a higher chance of hitting scum

The question is which slot to push. How to distinguish between the likes of NM, George and Alice?

Datisi, help me out here

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Post Post #1515  (isolation #158)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:43 am

I will say that Baltar’s recent posts have seemed townie to me

I still think IV is more likely Town than not, but I’ve lost some confidence in that read

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Post Post #1517  (isolation #159)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:46 am

In post 1516, Datisi wrote:
In post 1506, Luca Blight wrote:Unfortunately there are a lot of boring slots in this game that need pushing

on a gut level i do not like this post but i'm wondering if there's even a point in me calling out all posts i get bad pings from


I pretty much always prioritize the low content slots D1 unless I really hard SR someone else

I was called out for the same shit in the large normal (where NM was scum) for pushing PlusJOYED (town) and Hayker (scum) who weren’t contributing

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Post Post #1518  (isolation #160)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:49 am

It’s not that I enjoy pushing low content slots, I really don’t and I’m probably gonna pick and choose my games more carefully in future to avoid it

It’s just that I feel it’s necessary in order to solve the game

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Post Post #1521  (isolation #161)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:52 am

I really enjoyed the game that Iv modded recently as every player was active and engaged, and although my reads were pretty shit that game I was able to obvtown easily because I didn’t have to spend my time making boring pushes on boring slots

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Post Post #1522  (isolation #162)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:54 am

I don’t feel I was being particularly defensive tbh, I was just being honest

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Post Post #1573  (isolation #163)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:35 pm

In post 1571, Datisi wrote:
In post 1561, innocentvillager wrote:like it's annoying you're just writing off my stuff as useless nonsense but what can i do i guess.

it's also annoying you're writing me off as "never having this slot above townlean because dAtiSi PaRanOia" but we can't always have nice things in life can we


Now you know how I feel

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Post Post #1575  (isolation #164)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:43 pm

IV it’s sad how you think choosing between multiple lurkers isn’t a flat gamestate

I literally don’t care who we lim out of like four or five players. The only reason I slightly prefer Anya rn is because she is at worst a VT. You’re also more ‘boring’ than I’d expect fwiw

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Post Post #1576  (isolation #165)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:46 pm

I still think my earlier townbloc is more than likely pure

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Post Post #1578  (isolation #166)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:48 pm

Why is it going to be impossible to yeet NM later?

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Post Post #1581  (isolation #167)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:51 pm

In post 1577, innocentvillager wrote:what's sad about it lol

lol im surprised your read on me tanked over time. i think i started off relatively within scumrange but have been creeping out of it over time


My read on you has actually improved again recently, hence my comment above about the townbloc

It’s sad because you must have played in a lot of shitty games if you think this is ‘not bad’. I’ve played in loads of games with lurkers myself but this is up there with the worst of them

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Post Post #1582  (isolation #168)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:53 pm

Luca, Datisi, geraint, Baltar, Norwee and iv all Town imo

Idk about anyone else

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Post Post #1583  (isolation #169)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:58 pm

In post 1580, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: Luca


What a boring push

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Post Post #1586  (isolation #170)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:00 pm

Like I said, I don’t really know?

How can I sort between the likes of George, Alice, NM, Anya

And then there the slightly higher tier of Icon, Wooper and gypyx which is also murky

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Post Post #1587  (isolation #171)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:02 pm

I’m probably being generous including gypyx in the higher tier tbh

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Post Post #1593  (isolation #172)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:08 pm

I’m tempted to switch to george or Alice. They have got even quieter the nearer we have got to deadline which seems scummy

Datisi, what do you think

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Post Post #1596  (isolation #173)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:10 pm

How am I supposed to sheep you if you don’t think >:(

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Post Post #1598  (isolation #174)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:15 pm

F*ck it, I’ll sheep Norwee instead

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

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Post Post #1600  (isolation #175)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:21 pm

It’s ok, I’ve already given up hope of being TR by you

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Post Post #1604  (isolation #176)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:27 pm

I’m off to bed now

By george’s rate of posting he’s due to have one more post before deadline. If we’re doing this then we need to make sure it’s a claim otherwise we’ll basically have to settle for the Anya lim regardless

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Post Post #1606  (isolation #177)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:29 pm

In post 1600, Luca Blight wrote:It’s ok, I’ve already given up hope of being TR by you


I hope this makes you feel bad Datisi

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Post Post #1610  (isolation #178)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:32 pm

:(

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Post Post #1612  (isolation #179)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:34 pm

I just did

The water was from my tears :’(

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Post Post #1638  (isolation #180)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:14 pm

In post 1624, Anya wrote:but but George is a shining example of towniness and i'd die for him


VOTE: Anya

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Post Post #1666  (isolation #181)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:55 pm

Why would you rather die than George if he’s just above neutral

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Post Post #1670  (isolation #182)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:01 pm

Why do you TL Alice?

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Post Post #1677  (isolation #183)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:06 pm

Scum know everyone’s alignment tho so that’s not a good reason to Tr someone

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Post Post #1682  (isolation #184)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:12 pm

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

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Post Post #1694  (isolation #185)  » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:04 am

Datisi, thoughts on recent events?

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Post Post #1696  (isolation #186)  » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:08 am

I’ve got this weird gut feeling that Anya is Town based on recent posts, even though I disagree with most of her views

I can’t wait for this readslist from George as it could be a game-changer

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Post Post #1697  (isolation #187)  » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:13 am

and if it isn’t then I’ll be locking my George vote in for the day

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Post Post #1701  (isolation #188)  » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:54 am

I also get the feeling Icon is scum tbh but that’s a fight for another day

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Post Post #1718  (isolation #189)  » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:39 am

In post 1715, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1708, Datisi wrote:
In post 1706, Wooper wrote:u think wolfconeum comes in like "uh god maybe anya is town" at the 11th hour while supportin the Anya wagon?
idrk I'm out of touch with ico meta

if anya/george are t/t i don't see why scumconeum wouldn't be taking the piss out of town like that


since when does scum!coneum not take the easy yeettt??

what are these recent takes of yours even???


Autumnal Mafia

You hard defended Wimpy when everyone wanted to yeet him

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Post Post #1725  (isolation #190)  » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:41 am

In post 1722, Wooper wrote:
In post 1718, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 1715, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1708, Datisi wrote:
In post 1706, Wooper wrote:u think wolfconeum comes in like "uh god maybe anya is town" at the 11th hour while supportin the Anya wagon?
idrk I'm out of touch with ico meta

if anya/george are t/t i don't see why scumconeum wouldn't be taking the piss out of town like that


since when does scum!coneum not take the easy yeettt??

what are these recent takes of yours even???


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You hard defended Wimpy when everyone wanted to yeet him


does this sound like a hard defense? what's ur take on how similar/different the two are


I didn’t say this was a hard defence, I was simply answering the question

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Post Post #1733  (isolation #191)  » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:44 am

I agree with Datisi’s take fwiw

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Post Post #1736  (isolation #192)  » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:45 am

In post 1731, Wooper wrote:
In post 1725, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 1722, Wooper wrote:
In post 1718, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 1715, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1708, Datisi wrote:
In post 1706, Wooper wrote:u think wolfconeum comes in like "uh god maybe anya is town" at the 11th hour while supportin the Anya wagon?
idrk I'm out of touch with ico meta

if anya/george are t/t i don't see why scumconeum wouldn't be taking the piss out of town like that


since when does scum!coneum not take the easy yeettt??

what are these recent takes of yours even???


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You hard defended Wimpy when everyone wanted to yeet him


does this sound like a hard defense? what's ur take on how similar/different the two are


I didn’t say this was a hard defence, I was simply answering the question

u didn't answer it, u just contradicted what ico was positing

what's ur actual take on his alignment


What are you talking about? I answered the question in the post I quoted

I’ve already said I’m leaning scum on Icon rn

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Post Post #1739  (isolation #193)  » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:46 am

In post 1734, Iconeum wrote:my gut right now is screaming that luca and datisi know each others allignments


I’m very confident Datisi is Town

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Post Post #1743  (isolation #194)  » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:48 am

How is it bad faith

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Post Post #1746  (isolation #195)  » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:50 am

You asked me why I voted Anya, you didn’t call anything out

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Post Post #1747  (isolation #196)  » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:51 am

And it was pretty obvious why I voted Anya as I quoted the exact post in question

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Post Post #1749  (isolation #197)  » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:52 am

How many votes on George

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Post Post #1751  (isolation #198)  » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:54 am

She said she’s die for George or something like that, so I have her what she wanted

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Post Post #1754  (isolation #199)  » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:55 am

In post 1752, Wooper wrote:
In post 1638, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 1624, Anya wrote:but but George is a shining example of towniness and i'd die for him


VOTE: Anya

like y the vote here
I get the meme but
y are you obliging
y did you struggle to respond when I asked u


I didn’t struggle to respond, I was out shopping like I said and had no time to answer stupid questions

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