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Post Post #11  (isolation #0)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:41 am

hello all.
I'm fed up of always getting eliminated for my normal style of play (which is very "sit back and vote infrequently")

I said in my last game i am going to be different.

So, firstly this is the 8th post so far in the game so far.

And there is a Mafia one time Strongman in this game, i have been informed of this fact.

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Post Post #17  (isolation #1)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:44 am

In post 15, Iconeum wrote:
In post 11, geraintm wrote:hello all.
I'm fed up of always getting eliminated for my normal style of play (which is very "sit back and vote infrequently")

I said in my last game i am going to be different.

So, firstly this is the 8th post so far in the game so far.

And there is a Mafia one time Strongman in this game, i have been informed of this fact.


why am i reading this like it's coming from mafia

not even joking

i cannot win

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Post Post #23  (isolation #2)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:46 am

In post 19, Datisi wrote:i am informed that i am town

this was the 8t post after mine VOTE: datisi

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Post Post #42  (isolation #3)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:56 am

In post 30, Iconeum wrote:
In post 23, geraintm wrote:
In post 19, Datisi wrote:i am informed that i am town

this was the 8t post after mine VOTE: datisi


i mean

i can see why your 'normal' playstyle gets you killed :lol:

that is the way i generate my random vote, i do tat every game.
no, i meant my normal way of playing is to sit back and just not move my votes very much, people hate it. i don't plan on being as like that from now on, and see how it goes (i fully expect people to go "Why is geraint so different from usual, lets vote him?")



te straight up claim is because i have never been informed before in a game. i have zero idea what to do with it, so i thought to myself "lets keep this simple". I even said in my confirmation email to the mod that i planned to just announce it in my first post.
my thinking was - people should read me as town - this is just such a stupid thing to do if scum
second - i am assuming there is some sort of protective role/unkillable role on town side and they'd like to know about the strongman thing -
third - if i ever claimed after today it would just look weird - like an excuse to out someone or a lame town claim that couldn't be checked - so claim now

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Post Post #43  (isolation #4)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:57 am

i stand by my belief that anyone making grand claims day one about people being scum/town is just being a numpty

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Post Post #57  (isolation #5)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:12 am

In post 52, Datisi wrote:i've caught scum on page 3 before and whenever someone says that you can't read anyone's alignment for certain on day 1 i have a fucking stroke

yes, eveyrone always replies with the "Oh, i've done it!" and i just picture themselves looking so pleased as they type that.
So just imagine me giving you a slow clap and going Bravo! for your amazing achievement of being exactly correct as my 1 year old nephew if he was throwing darts at a photo of Prince Phillip

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Post Post #68  (isolation #6)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:18 am

In post 63, Iconeum wrote:
In post 52, Datisi wrote:i've caught scum on page 3 before and whenever someone says that you can't read anyone's alignment for certain on day 1 i have a fucking stroke


i see your page 3 scum catch and raise you a double scum investigation in a bracket of 3 at EoD 1

then imagine me standing up and throwing flowers on stage for this

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Post Post #70  (isolation #7)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:18 am

In post 62, Gypyx wrote:actually hmmmm

given the claim, there's a possibility for it being ico + gera

not really stuff i'd bank on, just higher odds

VOTE: gypyx

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Post Post #80  (isolation #8)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:26 am

In post 74, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Btw i’m typing this in my lunch break and i’m working a day to day job that’s sapping all life from me so please don’t spam so much like usual cus i’ll need to spend like all evening to catch up. :((


its day 1, there is literally no reason to catch up until someone is eliminated

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Post Post #83  (isolation #9)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:27 am

In post 79, Datisi wrote:i'm a tryhard?

NorwegianBoy - 26 posts per day
Datisi - 16 posts per day

use this info as you see fit

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Post Post #89  (isolation #10)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:34 am

In post 86, Datisi wrote:
In post 80, geraintm wrote:its day 1, there is literally no reason to catch up until someone is eliminated

i am getting the urge to policy gera d1

and with n_m also on the playerlist, that's saying something

see, i said at the start i am fed up with always going through the same route in every game - people just dislike my way of playing. this game, i am not going to sit back and let day 1 drift and drift. i plan to get day 1 over and done with as quickly as possible and will join the largest wagon at every reasonable opportunity. wonder if you can policy eliminate me for that?

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Post Post #95  (isolation #11)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:42 am

i literally don't care what people think now. i hate day ones, i think town trying to come to an educated elimination means scum are less likely to be eliminated than if straws were drawn. i want to move to day 2 when other people will have some information from overnight and we can try and properly find scum

last game i did my normal "i don't want to vote anyone, when i do i am going to stick with it for a long time" play style, and then i had 5 votes placed on me in 5 posts in 33 minutes whilst i was asleep to get eliminated, i'm fed up with that

[note, i was scum... :)]

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Post Post #96  (isolation #12)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:43 am

In post 93, Iconeum wrote:
In post 89, geraintm wrote:i plan to get day 1 over and done with as quickly as possible and will join the largest wagon at every reasonable opportunity


Image

i have no words for this

so here

have a gif

don't care. people run me to near elimination every game for a reason, giving people a different one this time :)

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Post Post #97  (isolation #13)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:43 am

PS: I'm having fun doing this

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Post Post #101  (isolation #14)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:46 am

In post 100, Iconeum wrote:daddy told me that scumhunting day 1 can be effective


daddy lied.

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Post Post #105  (isolation #15)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:51 am

In post 98, Iconeum wrote:
In post 95, geraintm wrote:i want to move to day 2 when other people will have some information from overnight and we can try and properly find scum


this isn't the playground for you i think

maybe try town of salem

i aim to get to day 2, work out who i think is the most townie player in the game and then just follow them. like, i have literally spewed the only helpful bit of info i have already, i am not going to add anything else from night the rest of the game.
i don't think i am going to get NKed at any point because i am a French Vanilla Townie now, unless i have towned so hard that scum need to kill me because i am never going to get elimiated - and if i manage that then i consider that a huge EV+ for my slot.

People who try and eliminate me through a wagon know i am going to flip town and then will have to explain from that point on why they wanted to eliminate me. and if their only reason is "well, Geraint's claim gambit is just too good as scum, we gotta get rid of him" then i am calling everyone out on that right now as bunkum

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Post Post #106  (isolation #16)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:53 am

In post 104, Datisi wrote:
In post 103, Iconeum wrote:i don't feel this is coming from scum!geraint to be honest

just from terribletown!geraint

same, but bc i don't think scum!gera is a player who slaps down an informed townie claim first thing in the game


could you imagine if i did?

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Post Post #109  (isolation #17)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:58 am

In post 107, Datisi wrote:
In post 106, geraintm wrote:
In post 104, Datisi wrote:
In post 103, Iconeum wrote:i don't feel this is coming from scum!geraint to be honest

just from terribletown!geraint

same, but bc i don't think scum!gera is a player who slaps down an informed townie claim first thing in the game

could you imagine if i did?

if you did, it's etierh gonna be very obvious at some point, you're a scum master of playing the dumb/uninterested townie to your advantage and i am fine with both of those outcomes honestly


yep, thers is zero way i every pull that off.
people can call me terrible town, but my aim is to be thought of by everyone today as town. i am doing my hardest to do that and help in any way i can. at the end of the game, i that is all i want - to be thought of as town and follow the better town players later on with their better reads.

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Post Post #121  (isolation #18)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:14 am

In post 119, Gypyx wrote:
In post 105, geraintm wrote:i aim to get to day 2, work out who i think is the most townie player in the game and then just follow them


and how do you want to guess who's the towniest if not for the day 1 play????

oh, they'll be stuff then. they'll be claims and things is my assumption.

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Post Post #140  (isolation #19)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:42 am

In post 138, MiniMegabyte wrote:
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Gypyx (3) -> Datisi, Iconeum, geraintm
GeorgeBailey (1) -> Gypyx

Not Voting (9) -> Not_Mafia, GeorgeBailey, Datisi, Gypyx, geraintm, NorwegianboyEE, Iconeum, innocentvillager, Anya
Day ends in (expired on 2021-04-28 18:32:00)

I'm down as voting and not voting

I decided to use JacksonVirgo's Vote Counter to make things easier and something went wrong let me fix that

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Post Post #144  (isolation #20)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:56 am

In post 131, Datisi wrote:ackchyually let me pretend to do some serious analysis on posts from page 1-2

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In post 11, geraintm wrote:hello all.
I'm fed up of always getting eliminated for my normal style of play (which is very "sit back and vote infrequently")

I said in my last game i am going to be different.

So, firstly this is the 8th post so far in the game so far.

And there is a Mafia one time Strongman in this game, i have been informed of this fact.

In post 15, Iconeum wrote:
In post 11, geraintm wrote:hello all.
I'm fed up of always getting eliminated for my normal style of play (which is very "sit back and vote infrequently")

I said in my last game i am going to be different.

So, firstly this is the 8th post so far in the game so far.

And there is a Mafia one time Strongman in this game, i have been informed of this fact.


why am i reading this like it's coming from mafia

not even joking

In post 18, Gypyx wrote:lots of informed in this game

/s

pedit : i think he planned to do this kind of stuff before receiving role PM, maybe that's why that sounds artifical?

(t'was @post 15)

In post 21, Iconeum wrote:so you are suggesting he'd come out claiming whatever role he got or?

In post 26, Gypyx wrote:
In post 21, Iconeum wrote:so you are suggesting he'd come out claiming whatever role he got or?


hmmm, good point

it's up to gera to explain it anyways lol, just theorizing

^^ this is a weird sequence

(1) gera's intro says he's sick of being voted early, says he'll play differently this game
(2) gera then claims his informed in the same post
(3) ico says he's reading that post as scum
(4) gypyx defends him by saying that gera prob planned that pre-role pm so that's prob why it sounds weird
(5) ico replies "oh did he plan to claim early pre-role pm?"
(6) gypyx backs off with "good point"

now, this is an odd sequence because

when ico attacked and gypyx defended gera, it seemed to me like they were talking about (1), which is attacking/defending the "i'll play differently", which i mean, is valid grounds for suspicion, but also if it's really preplanned it's nai (like i can see both sides here)

now ico attacked gyp with "well do you think he was preplanning to roleclaim?" - and i'd expect gyp's reply to that would be "well no, but i'm not saying (2) was preplanned, i'm just saying (1) was preplanned and that that is nai"

and instead gyp backs off and agrees w ico - which cooooouuuld be scum avoiding heat or trying not to defend a townie in hopes there's a t/t fight in the making

VOTE: gypyx

discuss

if people want, i can go find the post i made in my last game where i said there i was fed up with everyone hating my normal playstyle.
alice - it isn't me improving, i was more than happy with how i went about games just no one else is. and people are hating the new me too so i've got that going for me :)

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Post Post #148  (isolation #21)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:10 am

In post 147, Datisi wrote:
In post 144, geraintm wrote:if people want, i can go find the post i made in my last game where i said there i was fed up with everyone hating my normal playstyle.

is that seriously the only thing you got from ?

In post 131, Datisi wrote:
now ico attacked gyp with "well do you think he was preplanning to roleclaim?" - and i'd expect gyp's reply to that would be "well no, but i'm not saying (2) was preplanned, i'm just saying (1) was preplanned and that that is nai"



i was responding to this bit where people were discussing if i had any plans this game to do stuff before this game started. not the preplanned informed townie bit. i want to be as honest as possible and explain my actions, so was just trying to add in info.

my claim - i am happy having done it. i am 99% sure there will be some protective role in town who is happier knowing that scum has a strongman, and when eventually a mafia strongman is eliminated i will be confirmed.

unless i've planned with my scum partners to bus the strong man....

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Post Post #161  (isolation #22)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:41 am

In post 154, Gypyx wrote:
welp, i hope you're like *really* good at mech

oh no. i am pretty bad at this game.
my general attempts at game play as town as to try and get people to see me as town and then people can go worry elsewhere. it does help that i think this is the first time in about ten games where i am town and i am not straight up VT so i don't have to worry at all about my night actions.

that sometimes works.
doesn't help me at all as scum because i am so obvious as scum.

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Post Post #193  (isolation #23)  » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:55 am

In post 174, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 95, geraintm wrote:i literally don't care what people think now. i hate day ones, i think town trying to come to an educated elimination means scum are less likely to be eliminated than if straws were drawn. i want to move to day 2 when other people will have some information from overnight and we can try and properly find scum

last game i did my normal "i don't want to vote anyone, when i do i am going to stick with it for a long time" play style, and then i had 5 votes placed on me in 5 posts in 33 minutes whilst i was asleep to get eliminated, i'm fed up with that

[note, i was scum... :)]

This is stupid and you should feel bad. Day 1 is informative.

day 1 eliminations have a higher than random chance of eliminating townies. townies shouldn't eliminate anyone day 1. no one else on this site agrees with this. i am not stupid. i don't feel bad.
day 1 is an informative as Fresher's Week for getting to know people

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Post Post #346  (isolation #24)  » Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:58 am

In post 201, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 196, Datisi wrote:also i will probably ignore all of gera's posts on d1 because they're almost verbatim things only heard in the newbie queue.

Fine i guess i’ll make this my policy too.

that make things simpler for me. maybe i could put in my first post "Away until day 2" in every game?

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Post Post #351  (isolation #25)  » Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:27 am

In post 216, GeorgeBailey wrote: Geraint why did you vote here?


because i thought it would get us to day 2 quicker


In post 277, Gypyx wrote:
In post 182, innocentvillager wrote:sorry to hear that :(

is two generally a lot of townreads for you at this point in the game? were you happy to get two townreads? sad you only had two townreads?


mmmmm don't like this post

VOTE: innocentvillager

your post is weird
In post 289, MiniMegabyte wrote:
Vote Count 1.3


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innocentvillager (3) -> Gypyx, Luca Blight, Anya [E-4]
Gypyx (2) -> Iconeum, geraintm
VP Baltar (2) -> innocentvillager, NorwegianboyEE
Datisi (1) -> GeorgeBailey
Not_Mafia (1) -> Not_Mafia
AliceK (1) -> Datisi

Not Voting (3) -> AliceK, VP Baltar, Wooper

Day ends in (expired on 2021-04-24 18:32:00)


VOTE: inncocent villager

In post 295, innocentvillager wrote:i have my opinions on the Luca wagon but i want to see what happens first

2 votes counts as a wagon?
In post 331, Wooper wrote:I have a spciey read I don't want to share.


this is just a waste of my time to even read this

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Post Post #355  (isolation #26)  » Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:48 am

I don't think I'm ever going to be so brazen about this in any other game in the future, but I claimed in post 1 so like...I'm just rolling with it.
And when I said I'm fed up with how people read me in all my previous games and I said I was going to change, mise well 110% follow through with it

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Post Post #356  (isolation #27)  » Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:50 am

Oh, ibwas serious about the wooper post. I see no reason anyone should make a post like that, trailing something too big to share. Just don't post it

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Post Post #358  (isolation #28)  » Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:53 am

I cannot "play the game" day 1. There is literally nothing to go kn except people claiming to have great insight into the inner workings of the other players, when a quarter of you lot are lying through your teeth.
Let's either
A) skip day 1 altogether and start after N1
B) skip through D1 as fast as possible

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Post Post #362  (isolation #29)  » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:20 am

In post 361, Iconeum wrote:ngl that would be pretty amazing

i would be disappointed in people if they didn't think that, but you all know that my slot will just be solved before the end game so i literally the last person anyone needs to worry about.

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Post Post #365  (isolation #30)  » Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:13 am

In post 364, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Or well, good at towntelling. Shit at scum hunting. Maybe that sounds a bit nicer?

for day 1, what more could i ask for?

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Post Post #373  (isolation #31)  » Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:39 am

In post 366, Wooper wrote:
In post 329, Iconeum wrote:i'll put it this way

if i had a spicey read i wanted to share, i would have done so

In post 331, Wooper wrote:I have a spciey read I don't want to share.

it was a joke Gera, you're getting PURE UNFILTERED WOOPER

i dont believe ive played with you before. can i get the filtered version? :)

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Post Post #572  (isolation #32)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:50 am

In post 538, Wooper wrote:

re. Alice game plan if she is just followin a mud map to victory y is she liek....not doing anything towny st all..... I'm not sayin I townraed her but I think there's an entier core of players who are doing less to towntell / who are just scummier than her LOL


In post 554, Wooper wrote:OK SOLD let's go on this magical adventure 2gether
VOTE: Alice



In post 557, Wooper wrote:@alice, claim please

this is a lazy ass ask for a claim. like, its day 1 and no one is getting eliminated yet, and what do you actually expect them to say? "YEs I have a power role, thanks for outing me" "No, i don't" or what?

I 95% hate Wooper's posts.

VOTE: Alice

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Post Post #579  (isolation #33)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:06 am

In post 574, Iconeum wrote:geraint, surely you wouldn't mind being the Day 1 kill right?

Like you said, you have already done your only use for this game


you are asking me, as town, if i want to be eliminated day 1? you think volunteering to have town lose a player day 1 is a good move? that is what you are actually suggesting?

makes total sense to me...so you all do that, you all go ahead and vote me off if that is what you think is best for town.

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Post Post #624  (isolation #34)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:44 am

In post 622, Wooper wrote:
In post 572, geraintm wrote:this is a lazy ass ask for a claim


this is rly cute

In post 572, geraintm wrote:I 95% hate Wooper's posts.

dude same omg


same as in you hate my posts of that numpty Wooper?

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Post Post #625  (isolation #35)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:46 am

In post 599, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 500, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 453, VP Baltar wrote:Alice, are you an alt?

In post 502, AliceK wrote:
In post 500, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 453, VP Baltar wrote:Alice, are you an alt?


Nope.


Any follow-up on this, Baltar?

did there need to be?

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Post Post #626  (isolation #36)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:48 am

In post 581, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Has George seriously not posted yet?

they posted. it was a fairly half decent post. sure they only have 2 but better that than 97 that don't actually mean anything. they posted on wednesday, they haven't been posting elsewhere whilst ignoring here. their level of activity is fine

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Post Post #627  (isolation #37)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:49 am

In post 624, geraintm wrote:
In post 622, Wooper wrote:
In post 572, geraintm wrote:this is a lazy ass ask for a claim


this is rly cute

In post 572, geraintm wrote:I 95% hate Wooper's posts.

dude same omg


same as in you hate my posts of that numpty Wooper?

should have said "or of that numpty Wooper"

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Post Post #669  (isolation #38)  » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:24 am

In post 657, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 626, geraintm wrote:
In post 581, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Has George seriously not posted yet?

they posted. it was a fairly half decent post. sure they only have 2 but better that than 97 that don't actually mean anything. they posted on wednesday, they haven't been posting elsewhere whilst ignoring here. their level of activity is fine

Why are you speaking up for George?

i first went and chcked if they literally hadn't posted at all. and they had. an initial random post and then one post that felt fine in lenght to me. i wanted to stop the narrative that george bailey had been absent.

In post 652, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 572, geraintm wrote:I 95% hate Wooper's posts.

I didn't think geraintm's takes could get worse, and yet here we are.



posts like this
In post 557, Wooper wrote:@alice, claim please


and 554 with their vote for Alice after 538 which didnt feel like it placed Alice in their scum pile at all and was (i think) largely non-commital

all that meant i just dislike Wooper and if i was placing a vote for person i wanted gone most, it would be them

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Post Post #739  (isolation #39)  » Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:14 am

In post 673, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 669, geraintm wrote:if i was placing a vote for person i wanted gone most, it would be them

Can I ask you to please just vote for who you want gone most? It is actually not helpful to only vote the top wagon. It hurts VC analysis later.


nope, tried that. people would vote me off for that for being scummy.

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Post Post #740  (isolation #40)  » Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:15 am

In post 674, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 671, innocentvillager wrote:isn't that... the exact reason to be worried? that NM and geraint together have a very sizable chance of taking a Y-2 slot to Y-0?

I think the concern is fair, but likely overstated. NM hasn't been moving his vote around at all yet and may not be reading the game much.

He said himself he wouldnt quick hammer. Thin promise, I know, but it is something.

Hey Not Mafia, you mind voting someone other than yourself right now?

there is no way i am going to hammer out of nowhere, unless a wagon got to 5 votes overnight when i wasn't here. i am typically going to be 4th or 5th onto a wagon

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Post Post #750  (isolation #41)  » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:29 am

In post 741, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 739, geraintm wrote:
In post 673, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 669, geraintm wrote:if i was placing a vote for person i wanted gone most, it would be them

Can I ask you to please just vote for who you want gone most? It is actually not helpful to only vote the top wagon. It hurts VC analysis later.


nope, tried that. people would vote me off for that for being scummy.

Literally everyone says you're obv town. You're not going to get yeeted D1. Do you want us to feel sorry for you?


,no, I am just being very explicit in my change of style. There is no point doing so without fully committing to it and so not looking for sympathy, just making it as obvious as I can to why I'm bring so different to previous day 1s

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Post Post #785  (isolation #42)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:56 am

THoughts:

George Bailey is doing the bare minimum - it is just commenting, no actual personal insight. Leans non-town to me.

In post 769, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 768, Wooper wrote:hi hi hi what have I missed

Wooooper. We are talking about whether George Bailey is scum or just lazing through.

Also, since Ico is back tomorrow:

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ico

this wasnt the start of the ICO wagon, it was the third.

In post 772, Anya wrote:VOTE: Ico

i agree we should make him feel welcome

the 4th

In post 774, Wooper wrote:love that for us
VOTE: Ico welcome back qt


the 5th
that is a pretty strange wagon that formed out of nowhere. for the purposes of tomorrow, i want to add these 3 - VPBalter, Anya and Wooper to my list of suspicious people

In post 783, Datisi wrote:i didn't read shit but the last vc but wtf

UNVOTE: ico


this is consistent with Datisi's previous posts

Anyways... VOTE: ICO

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Post Post #793  (isolation #43)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:04 am

In post 786, Datisi wrote:whyyyy can't you just fucking vote the person you think isn't town jesus christ

like this isn't even "i don't have reads" on day 1" you literally have reads why are you acting like the most anti-town fucker imaginable

previously, these are the same sort of opinions i would have on people day 1. and whilst i think these people have done things i wnt to pay attention to there were nowhere near enough for me to think they were scum. old me wouldn't have voted for them.

i am also not sure what is anti-town about voting for someone 5 other people - including yourself - were voting for?

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Post Post #794  (isolation #44)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:05 am

In post 788, Datisi wrote:VOTE: george

i'm not sure there's a point in trying to make n_m to do anything, but i've recently had to sit through a few ted talks on why n_m should be policied asap and lowkey they weren't bad so maybe

i would happily vote for Not_mafia. at least i feel i am actually giving people my thoughts today - even if i don't vote on them. Not Mafia just....doesn't

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Post Post #880  (isolation #45)  » Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:29 pm

In post 864, Datisi wrote:luca i hope you step on a lego


very quickly checking in.
but have reported this post to mods.
unacceptable

also, Norway is kinda coasting and not doing anything useful. you cant say you are voting someone to pu pressure on when your own posts are just so...full of feelings. either say you havent got anything to go on or actually say why you dislike someone..

havent seen a Mod vote count lately to know where i should be voting

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Post Post #956  (isolation #46)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:47 am

In post 954, MiniMegabyte wrote:
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GeorgeBailey (4) -> Luca Blight, Wooper, Gypyx, NorwegianboyEE [E-3]
AliceK (2) -> innocentvillager, Iconeum
Not_Mafia (2) -> Not_Mafia, geraintm
Gypyx (2) -> GeorgeBailey, VP Baltar
Iconeum (1) -> Anya
innocentvillager (1) -> AliceK

Not Voting (1) -> Datisi

Day ends in (expired on 2021-04-24 18:32:00)

i am currently voting ICO

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Post Post #958  (isolation #47)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:50 am

In post 942, Iconeum wrote:
In post 832, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 830, Datisi wrote:i wish the last page and a half hadn't happened, bc it lowkey sunk my read on literally everyone who's posted on them

Can you explain that?
Based on slots that have posted right now i'm thinking you and Luca are townie. Baltar leanscum.
I'm gonna join this wagon because i don't understand why George is this inactive and he hasn't been town so far.
VOTE: GeorgeBailey


agreeing with this


what,that George should be voted?
WHy didn't you vote for them then?

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Post Post #959  (isolation #48)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:52 am

like....George has only made 2 half assed posts out of their 4...but that is still more than some people in the game
it isn't like they are ignoring this game whislt posting elsewhere.
george is an easy push from people.

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Post Post #961  (isolation #49)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:56 am

In post 957, Luca Blight wrote:Any reason you’re not voting George?

im still catching up.

and going to break my vote longest wagon rule. not voting george. i think the wagon stinks.

i am not saying george can't be scum - they have as much change as anyone else in this game - but i am not (right now) going to help people eliminate them

VOTE: aliceK instead

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Post Post #965  (isolation #50)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:07 am

In post 832, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I'm gonna join this wagon because i don't understand why George is this inactive and he hasn't been town so far.
VOTE: GeorgeBailey


This is George not being scumread
In post 817, Gypyx wrote:also apparently the only way to get gera to play the game is to push his SR's or something

VOTE: george

This not George being scumread, but someone voting for George because they think i am scum reading George?

In post 798, Wooper wrote:VOTE: George

George/IV 2/2

another naked vote for George

In post 608, Luca Blight wrote:VOTE: GeorgeBailey


the first naked vote for GEorge.

That wagon stinks and i am not going near it, despite saying i would vote longest wagons.

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Post Post #968  (isolation #51)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:14 am

In post 963, Iconeum wrote:
In post 961, geraintm wrote:and going to break my vote longest wagon rule. not voting george. i think the wagon stinks.


you literally said the same thing about my wagon

but didn't hesitate to join that one

what's different here

yeah, i realise they are probably the same, dunno why the George wagon has annoyed me so much.
don't worry, i will go back to your the normal scheduled shit-voting soon.

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Post Post #972  (isolation #52)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:34 am

as i said, there isn't much of a difference. By all rights i should vote for GEorge.
i think it is just that i've been in this game a little longer now (compared to when your wagon was around) and become marginally invested in George and so i really, really don't want to join the people who are currently voting for them

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Post Post #973  (isolation #53)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:35 am

Does that answer enough Ico?

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Post Post #984  (isolation #54)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:12 am

In post 974, Iconeum wrote:yeah absolutely

VOTE: george

if this is scum, you can die next

I would happily take that trade right now

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Post Post #985  (isolation #55)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:13 am

In post 983, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 961, geraintm wrote:
In post 957, Luca Blight wrote:Any reason you’re not voting George?

im still catching up.

and going to break my vote longest wagon rule. not voting george. i think the wagon stinks.

i am not saying george can't be scum - they have as much change as anyone else in this game - but i am not (right now) going to help people eliminate them

VOTE: aliceK instead


And the guy who says the George wagon stinks due to naked votes goes ahead and places a naked vote of his own on the next biggest wagon

I know right! What a wild and crazy guy!

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Post Post #986  (isolation #56)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:15 am

Old me: don't vote anyone
People: don't like that, we will vote you.
New me: vote for everyone
People: don't like that, please don't do that
New me: I really want to vote for everyone, but I won't this time
People: yeah, when we said to stop voting for everyone we are going to judge you so hard...

New me: shrug

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Post Post #1003  (isolation #57)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:23 am

In post 987, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 959, geraintm wrote:like....George has only made 2 half assed posts out of their 4...but that is still more than some people in the game
it isn't like they are ignoring this game whislt posting elsewhere.
george is an easy push from people.


This is just scraping the bottom of the barrel

The only player who has less content is Not_Mafia, who has a reputation for being pretty useless as either alignment most of the time. George, as you said yourself, has actual scummy content among his four posts

It might be an ‘easy’ push but it’s also a necessary one. I’d quite happily vote both George and NM if I were able to but a choice has to be made

Where did I say George was scummy?
Like I'm not sure why I am fighting people who are shading my slot. I'm town. I know I'm town. If I am not and have this super duper scum plan to win this game...I am notngood enough to ever pull that off and there is no way anyone is going to let me survive an end game. So....dunno what else to say right now

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Post Post #1005  (isolation #58)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:25 am

In post 998, Iconeum wrote:
In post 989, Datisi wrote:ok a thought: i feel like ico is giving a town-pass to wooper waaaaaay too easily? like idk off the top of my head but i have a feeling ico should know that wooper is like. not a bad scum player. how in the hecc is he getting so many townpasses here. i don't like it.


i don't really care you think it's TMI
and i think i also mentioned it once or twice that maybe scum!wooper is capable of faking it

does that mean i shouldn't townread him for it?

my process is really simple, especially on day 1

would player x make this post as town? yes? -> townread no? -> scumread
the more posts i see that fit in the first one, the happier i am

i have not seen posts from wooper that fit the second category, and a few that strongly fit the first one

if it helps at all, wooper is the only person who has featured twice so far in my notes of "person who looks suspicious on day 1"

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Post Post #1009  (isolation #59)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:43 am

In post 1008, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1005, geraintm wrote:if it helps at all, wooper is the only person who has featured twice so far in my notes of "person who looks suspicious on day 1"


i would be interested in seeing what made you suspicious of him exactly?

only person on both crappy wagons so far. it isn't a high tech suspicion.
don't worry, it isnt relevant. I'll be back on my longest wagon vote soon enough, it was just notes i made for myself for Day 2

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Post Post #1015  (isolation #60)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:53 am

In post 1011, Iconeum wrote:which are *both* crappy wagons exactly?

GB and?


going to circle back day 2 to the VP Baltar, Anya, Wooper votes on ICO

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Post Post #1035  (isolation #61)  » Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:15 am

@VP Bal - yeah, the George wagon was so bad i couldn't bring myself to join it. i found i have standards. Who knew?

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Post Post #1126  (isolation #62)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:36 am

In post 1112, Iconeum wrote:yeah so i went back to giggle a bit about my own post (yeah yeah) and i found this one line at the top of the quote from geraint

In post 785, geraintm wrote:George Bailey is doing the bare minimum - it is just commenting, no actual personal insight. Leans non-town to me.


In post 959, geraintm wrote:like....George has only made 2 half assed posts out of their 4...but that is still more than some people in the game
it isn't like they are ignoring this game whislt posting elsewhere.
george is an easy push from people.

In post 961, geraintm wrote:
In post 957, Luca Blight wrote:Any reason you’re not voting George?

im still catching up.

and going to break my vote longest wagon rule. not voting george. i think the wagon stinks.

i am not saying george can't be scum - they have as much change as anyone else in this game - but i am not (right now) going to help people eliminate them

VOTE: aliceK instead


geraint how did you make this progression again?


@ICO
you missed this post of mine about george. they had their post 216 by this point and i thought that post was fine

In post 626, geraintm wrote:
In post 581, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Has George seriously not posted yet?

they posted. it was a fairly half decent post. sure they only have 2 but better that than 97 that don't actually mean anything. they posted on wednesday, they haven't been posting elsewhere whilst ignoring here. their level of activity is fine


by my post 785 they had 2 more posts, one which was fluff.
731 was not as good as 216. an "i agree with" "well, i think" "i'm very unsure on" "I have some tinfoil hate theory"
it was a much less goodpost than 216.
so my post 785 was saying 2 posts, and i didn't like the last one - bare minimum

post 959 - it was me basically saying i didn't understand the hatred GEorge was getting when Not Mafia is in the game. and saying that george wasn't underposting in this whilst posting elsewhere. it was an easy push.

961 - this was me, after having seen the votes on geroge, just saying nope.

i hav to say. since George has come back to the game they haven't said that much. it is pretty much waffle and feelings and gut. suspect if geroge was longest wagon now, i might have voted for them.

In post 1121, MiniMegabyte wrote:
Vote Count 1.12

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Anya (4) -> Datisi, Luca Blight, VP Baltar, Iconeum [E-3]
GeorgeBailey (3) -> Wooper, Gypyx, NorwegianboyEE
AliceK (2) -> innocentvillager, geraintm
Gypyx (1) -> GeorgeBailey
Iconeum (1) -> Anya
Not_Mafia (1) -> Not_Mafia
innocentvillager (1) -> AliceK

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate

Day ends in (expired on 2021-04-24 18:32:00)


VOTE: anya
In post 1125, Wooper wrote:i am not in a position where i want datisi dead but i am in a position wher I have no string feelinfs so I'm happy to oursiurcd that read to someone who does

@ico idrc if Luca townrwsds datisi. that's cool I guess. I don't want to wagon darisi so that suits my plans splendidly!!


hate this post from wooper.

In post 1105, Luca Blight wrote:Anyway let’s just get a claim from Anya and go from there. There’s no point waiting around hoping for more content at this stage


hate this post from luca.

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Post Post #1129  (isolation #63)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:02 am

In post 1127, Luca Blight wrote:The feeling is mutual

curious to know why, and if it is anything besides me just disliking your post.

mine answered in detail a question that was asked of me.
pointed out Wooper just going to follow someone else's read on a player is bad play as it absolves them of an actual read
pointed out asking for a claim on Day 1 is something i find poor. every player knows if they need to claim, if their role is worth it. fishing and creating an atmosphere of expecting claims is something i dislike.
or was it me joining a wagon you are on youtself?

what exactly about my post did you hate?

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Post Post #1131  (isolation #64)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:05 am

In post 1128, Luca Blight wrote:The fact you joined the Anya wagon shows you actually agree with 1105 lol

Numpty


no, i don't.
i am not in favour of claims. go check other games of mine. i think people asking for them is poor play because the people it benefits are not town, if a player feels the need to claim they can decide that themselves, it doesn't need anyone else to demand that from them.

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Post Post #1135  (isolation #65)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:11 am

In post 1134, Luca Blight wrote:Getting a claim before a D1 lim is standard practice and absolutely necessary

Given you in particular are only able to solve using mechanics this just seems another nonsensical view of yours

just because it is standard practice doesn't mean it is something i agree with.
if ti was the case, then we would have already outed a quarter or third of the players in this game, and scum can generate an endless series of pressures on people to "force" claims.

people should be free to claim if and when they want to, not when other players expect it.

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Post Post #1137  (isolation #66)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:17 am

because if every town power role always claims, then scum only need to get someone to 5 votes to know if a player has a power role. that is easier than any investigation role they may have.
you need uncertainty in the system so the above isn't true.

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Post Post #1140  (isolation #67)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:28 am

and i am saying every player in this game knows if they should make a claim or not, and it is people asking for them is what i hate.
which is why i mentioned it about your post.

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Post Post #1144  (isolation #68)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:50 am

oh, i am all for not eliminating anyone, don't forget that. That is my preference. I think that is a much better outcome for town than randomly forcing claims from players and still ending with a random elimination at the end of it all.

and i think for meta-Town, some PRs should not claim Day 1 when asked/pressured because it improves meta-Town's odds.

I still stand by my post where i disliked your asking for a claim.

but 100% not sure why you are fighting me so hard on this. you do you. you can keep asking for claims. i am not forcing you to not do that, but you cannot stop me using it as a data point to dislike your slot.

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Post Post #1148  (isolation #69)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:08 am

@luca - oh, we do eliminate people, but not on Day 1 when i am convinced that the random roll of the dice is not a fair roll.
wait until Day 2 when night actions will generate a bunch of semi-informed Townies to help fight against the Informed Scum.

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Post Post #1164  (isolation #70)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:54 am

In post 1160, innocentvillager wrote:meh, i kinda believe it idk VOTE: Not_Mafia


thank god we got a claim, that has been totally worthwhile if people are going to unvote after that....

i must remember this for the future when i can kill all future wagons by waving my magic wand of VT...

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Post Post #1167  (isolation #71)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:57 am

In post 1166, Luca Blight wrote:No-one has actually unvoted, geraint


Sorry, i apologise then

In post 1160, innocentvillager wrote:meh, i kinda believe it idk VOTE: Not_Mafia

i just accepted this was someone switching their vote, rather than just a vote.

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Post Post #1168  (isolation #72)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:58 am

In post 1165, Luca Blight wrote:Anya should absolutely be limmed unless she actually produces some significantly townie content

Otherwise I have no interest in running anyone else up today

You are giving a pass to George and not Mafia for their levels of content then?

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Post Post #1175  (isolation #73)  » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:05 am

consensus village idiot town read

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Post Post #1377  (isolation #74)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:46 am

In post 1350, Datisi wrote:also reskimming the last few pages, i hate all of the reactions to this wagon

i hate that luca is going "achkchually i can kinda see her beign town but idk lol yeet"
i hate that iv is apparently so tunnelled onto anya!town while also saying he's not confident there
i hate that vp went so suddenly from "lol idk can compromise there" to ~ b l o o d l u s t ~

how many scum are there in this game

you dont get to play martyr on the wagon when you were first on.

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Post Post #1378  (isolation #75)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:48 am

In post 1330, innocentvillager wrote:the ridiculous thing is that literally no matter what Anya flips, in today’s meta I just look worse for WKing her here (even though I’m not confident about her alignment)


What is WKing?

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Post Post #1379  (isolation #76)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:52 am

In post 1315, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1304, Datisi wrote:
In post 1302, VP Baltar wrote:IV, stop being a coward and hammer.

whyyy do you have such a thirst for a hammer suddenly

I'm bored and I think Anya flips red 9/10 times based on her reax to the surprise wagon.


this level of confidence D1 is baffling

I kinda confess to wanting to see Innocent Villagers colour - the not hammering thing is just weird.
Datisi - leaving an unvote that late is weird. and unvoting when it is half obvious that Anya isn't going to easily get over the line...hmmm

personsally, ive got nothing interesting to say right now,and nothing to do until a different wagon forms.

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Post Post #1488  (isolation #77)  » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:12 pm

In post 1485, Datisi wrote:this sorta motivates me to try and compare some of n_m's town and scum isos

my god that sounds terrible. why would you do that to yourself?

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Post Post #1524  (isolation #78)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:13 am

In post 1506, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 1479, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 1477, Datisi wrote:
In post 1476, Not_Mafia wrote:Luca is scum btw

n_m? giving reads? more likely than you think

do we also get an explanation with it?


Boring pushes


Unfortunately there are a lot of boring slots in this game that need pushing


i reread this as "There are a load of slots i want wagonned to force claims from"

but that is just me looking for the worst in people...

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Post Post #1546  (isolation #79)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:49 am

In post 1544, innocentvillager wrote:i mean id take a coinflip over Anya at this point

i also don't *hate* the idea of flipping Anya and jsut getting this whole thing over with because that maybe tells us good associatives info


i would take a coinflip over someone people are pushing any day of the week.
im more than happy for the rest of you to draw straws to see who should go

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Post Post #1630  (isolation #80)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:59 pm

I've already for my eye on innocent villager for the collapse of the Anya wagon... consider this another point against them

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Post Post #1631  (isolation #81)  » Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:00 pm

sorry,got mixed up. i messed up who vp balthar was replying to. it was gypyx who is now on my list to go along with innocent villager

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Post Post #1801  (isolation #82)  » Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:04 am

In post 1634, MiniMegabyte wrote:
Vote Count 1.16

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GeorgeBailey (5) -> Wooper, Gypyx, NorwegianboyEE, innocentvillager, Luca Blight [E-2]
Anya (4) -> VP Baltar, Iconeum, geraintm, Datisi
Gypyx (1) -> GeorgeBailey
Not_Mafia (1) -> Anya
Luca Blight (1) -> Not_Mafia
innocentvillager (1) -> AliceK

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate

Day ends in (expired on 2021-04-24 18:32:00)

i feel like i've come back and there are 10 pages of the same 4 people arguing pointlessly
VOTE: George Bailey
I'm gonna be all Henry F. Potter about it

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Post Post #1805  (isolation #83)  » Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:11 am

In post 1802, Datisi wrote:for someone obsessed with solving this game via power roles, you sure don't give potential power roles a chance to claim :roll:

ive mad emu opinion about both voting longest wagon and claims clear

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Post Post #1817  (isolation #84)  » Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:30 am

In post 1811, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 1805, geraintm wrote:
In post 1802, Datisi wrote:for someone obsessed with solving this game via power roles, you sure don't give potential power roles a chance to claim :roll:

ive mad emu opinion about both voting longest wagon and claims clear


You didn’t give him a chance to claim

How does that tie-in to your philosophy?

they've had weeks to claim if they wanted to. but i am not pro-claim anyways. But people are mad at me when 6 others are already voting, knowing i would vote if i turned up. get over your fake outrage....

See y'all Day 2

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Post Post #1986  (isolation #85)  » Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:17 am

catching up

1st, im goign to have to stop this "scum never get eliminated day 1" thing
and i have to apoligise for anyone i said was on a crappy George Bailey wagon.

In post 1887, innocentvillager wrote:UNVOTE: GeorgeBailey


exiting yesterday, the one note i made was this. i felt the unvote was very suspicious. so keeping that in mind for today.

In post 1969, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm the vig


noted. but you need to say who you shot.

if i was going big brain (this is something i never do, but New ME is trying new things), my scum team would be George, ANya and innocent villager

In post 1121, MiniMegabyte wrote:
Vote Count 1.12

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Anya (4) -> Datisi, Luca Blight, VP Baltar, Iconeum [E-3]
GeorgeBailey (3) -> Wooper, Gypyx, NorwegianboyEE
AliceK (2) -> innocentvillager, geraintm
Gypyx (1) -> GeorgeBailey
Iconeum (1) -> Anya
Not_Mafia (1) -> Not_Mafia
innocentvillager (1) -> AliceK

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate

Day ends in (expired on 2021-04-24 18:32:00)


Going from the above to

In post 1497, MiniMegabyte wrote:
Vote Count 1.14

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Anya (5) -> Luca Blight, VP Baltar, Iconeum, geraintm, Datisi [E-2]
GeorgeBailey (3) -> Wooper, Gypyx, NorwegianboyEE
Not_Mafia (3) -> Not_Mafia, innocentvillager, Anya
Gypyx (1) -> GeorgeBailey
innocentvillager (1) -> AliceK

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate

Day ends in (expired on 2021-04-24 18:32:00)


I'm going wildly speculative that the attempted switch to not_mafia [who i am beleiving their claim right now] combined with that weird attempt to not eliminate GEorge from Innocent Villager

im not buying this push on gypyx at the moment, i am not up for believing the two of them would have been so blatant in their attempt to appear apart.

I had a note saved saying something like "the collapse of the Anya wagon is weird. keep eye on innocent villager and datisi" but datisi is obviously cleared. SO that is another datapoint [from their actions] on why i don't like Innocent Villager.

If i was to vote right now, it would be Innocent Villager, with Anya second.

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Post Post #2002  (isolation #86)  » Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:21 am

In post 1994, Luca Blight wrote:Baltar and IV are very likely town

I'm actually a little less sure of geraint than I was before

what, even though a doctor died overnight (effectivly) confirming my claim you doubt me?

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Post Post #2029  (isolation #87)  » Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:21 am

In post 2016, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1986, geraintm wrote:1st, im goign to have to stop this "scum never get eliminated day 1" thing

i mean you can (at least partially) thank me for that

we were going to kill anya then i started yelling about how about something felt off and tbh partly using your logic of "town is just going apathy kill anya today", then people started going over to george

literally im only ever scum if you think im exactly scum with Anya and diverted over to my other scumbuddy george

In post 1356, MiniMegabyte wrote:
Vote Count 1.13

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Anya (5) -> Luca Blight, VP Baltar, Iconeum, geraintm, NorwegianboyEE [E-2]
Not_Mafia (3) -> Not_Mafia, innocentvillager, Anya
GeorgeBailey (2) -> Wooper, Gypyx
Gypyx (1) -> GeorgeBailey
innocentvillager (1) -> AliceK

Not Voting (1) -> Datisi

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate

Day ends in (expired on 2021-04-24 18:32:00)

nah, this is where i think you look bad. attempting to start something on not mafia
In post 1160, innocentvillager wrote:meh, i kinda believe it idk VOTE: Not_Mafia

that was the vote. yep, i might be twisting things to fit the logic i want, but i dislike your slot

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Post Post #2084  (isolation #88)  » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:18 am

In post 6, Gypyx wrote:Anyways, here's my role crumb, it's not meant to be understood, and it is not possible for any of you guys to understeand it, really

(spoilered for convinience)

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anyone voting gypyx i feel needs to explain why they are with this post exisiting.
Because currently the thinking must be that Scum let George die and another scum made themselves this obvious right from the start of the game.
i don't buy that at all.
I won't be voting gypyx today.

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Post Post #2085  (isolation #89)  » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:28 am

Considering that not-mafia is the one person i am strongly town reading now (due to claim) they would be the person i would be following with their votes, i wish they were being more active.

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Post Post #2127  (isolation #90)  » Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:38 am

In post 2100, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2085, geraintm wrote:Considering that not-mafia is the one person i am strongly town reading now (due to claim) they would be the person i would be following with their votes, i wish they were being more active.


ur gonna have a bad time if you think that a strong townread has to be correct in their reads just because you think they are town

im just playing the %s
i said day 1 that my plan was to get to day 2 seen as scum, work out who i beleived was the most towny person around and ensure that there was a 2 person little group of towniness that was around.
it is just a shame i've picked not mafia

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Post Post #2155  (isolation #91)  » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:27 am

In post 2146, Gypyx wrote:i do not claim i am the vig or anything

i just think not_mafia isn't the vig, and i don't get how y'all are just buying it without any second thoughts

pedit : yeah norwee gets it


im going to need a lot more than a feeling to not believe it

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Post Post #2156  (isolation #92)  » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:30 am

In post 2130, VP Baltar wrote:I forgot about gypyx's crumb. I may want to force him to claim today.

a claim is one thing (on day 2) and he may well refuse (if he knows it is in the best intersts of town for today, but i think he gets basically one days grace), but people need to back off him (which i think they are)

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Post Post #2162  (isolation #93)  » Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:30 am

sorry - meant to say how could you forget a claim? i edited what i was writing (and putting in the brackets) and made it make no sense.

then it was my thoughts you you "forcing" him to claim.

i wanted to make it clear i wasn't 100% on requiring them to claim. there could be situations where Town knows it is better that they dont outright claim because of the nature of their role, and if they say that they get themselves one days grace on requiring a claim.

but....i dont feel like they need to claim. they should not be the focus of today's elimination and in my opinion they should not needlessly be run up just to force a claim from them

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Post Post #2220  (isolation #94)  » Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:03 am

sorry for being mostly absent today.

im not voting for gypyx anytime today. they;ll be found out later if it is fake.

i think i still kinda am on innocent villager myself. i've not seen nayone else in the game who i want to follow.

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Post Post #2235  (isolation #95)  » Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:25 pm

In post 2221, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 2220, geraintm wrote:sorry for being mostly absent today.

im not voting for gypyx anytime today. they;ll be found out later if it is fake.


What?

Do you realize gypyx claimed vt?

yes, and if they turn out to be scum it will become more and more obvious as the game progresses. there is no need to vote Gypyx today

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Post Post #2240  (isolation #96)  » Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:17 pm

VOTE: innocent villager

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Post Post #2346  (isolation #97)  » Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:59 am

In post 2242, Sirius9121 wrote:Official Vote Count

Iconeum (4): VP Baltar, innocentvillager, Anya, Luca Blight
innocentvillager (2): Gypyx, geraintm
Gypyx (2): NorwegianboyEE, AliceK
Luca Blight (1): Iconeum

Not Voting (1): Not_Mafia

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

Deadline: (expired on 2021-05-03 10:38:00)


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So, i have Not Mafia and Gypyx in my town pile

Innocent villager is who i am voting for
Anya is second

I think his means i want to push Iconeum into my probable town pile.

Looking at the end of Day 1, my IV and Anya pair looks classical one off one on.

The ending voting wagon was

Gypyx, NorwegianboyEE, innocentvillager, Luca Blight, Iconeum, Wooper, geraintm

Known Town
Geraintm
Wooper

Probable town
Gypyx

Likely town

Iconeum

Others

Norway
IV
Luca

As i said, i think those last 3 are the places to look.

In post 1467, NorwegianboyEE wrote:VOTE: GeorgeBailey
Ok Luca, IV. Let’s get some wagon competition going. Still not really townleaning Anya, but am disliking George so why not have some wagon competition.

In post 832, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 830, Datisi wrote:i wish the last page and a half hadn't happened, bc it lowkey sunk my read on literally everyone who's posted on them

Can you explain that?
Based on slots that have posted right now i'm thinking you and Luca are townie. Baltar leanscum.
I'm gonna join this wagon because i don't understand why George is this inactive and he hasn't been town so far.
VOTE: GeorgeBailey


Norway has three different votes for GEorge Bailey. If they were scum, that is some serious attempts to push their partner and i don't buy it. I am firmly moving Norway to my likely town pile



In post 612, NorwegianboyEE wrote:VOTE: Georgebailey
I accidentally made this vote outside of this game, but i meant it be4 Luca.


Luca

In post 1682, Luca Blight wrote:VOTE: GeorgeBailey

Out shopping atm I’ll be back in a couple of hours

In post 1598, Luca Blight wrote:F*ck it, I’ll sheep Norwee instead

VOTE: GeorgeBailey


In post 608, Luca Blight wrote:VOTE: GeorgeBailey


3 different votes for George during the day
there was a switch to anya in there too between the later 2 votes

Could be scum, not going to lie. not going to clear them like Norway who felt much more pushing george. these are a little more "going with the flow i don't want to stand out if george flips" votes.

In post 1560, innocentvillager wrote:fine VOTE: GeorgeBailey

that was the vote
it came 2 posts after this

In post 1553, innocentvillager wrote:Probably just town

PoE
GeorgeBailey - im p conflicted on this slot. I don't see why people are calling him super scummy (e.g. Wooper). i think there's some towniness in his half-assed Anya defense and emotion when called out that his tinfoil theory was bad. ive never played with scum!him but he's been 2/2 for super low activity as town. i will kill this slot if it comes to it but im like whatever here i think.


so that, combined with the attempte unvote of George, i am firmly in the "I want to eliminate Innocent Villager" - i think they are scum and i think they have a much higher chance of being scum than anyone else

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Post Post #2358  (isolation #98)  » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:37 am

In post 2354, VP Baltar wrote:Plus! Datisi and I were both strongly supporting an Anya yeet and that still happened. There is no world where anyone in this game played a good scum game on D1. So someone fucked up, plain and simple.


THis. Like, people have been calling me out for being terrible but i am 90% sure someone of those people are scum so until the end of the game when i cna review, im kinda ok being called awful

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Post Post #2416  (isolation #99)  » Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:57 pm

In post 2359, innocentvillager wrote:VOTE: innocentvillager im fucking done with this game goodbye

vote me out idgaf

nice performance art.

In post 2415, VP Baltar wrote:The other possibility is that D1 was so weird because both Anya and George were scum run up. That creates a super panic situation for scum that is hard to deal with


this is my working theory. i wonder how close i am to being right. we shall see later on.


i think we are up to 5 on Iconeum? is that right?

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Post Post #2467  (isolation #100)  » Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:59 am

if you want to vote off Gypyx, you will need to do it without me.
Not voting there today at all.

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Post Post #2515  (isolation #101)  » Sat May 01, 2021 8:01 am

In post 2513, NorwegianboyEE wrote:How many votes on Ico? Can i kill him?

No

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Post Post #2557  (isolation #102)  » Sat May 01, 2021 12:41 pm

In post 2556, Anya wrote:nice we got one

don't brutally execute villager this game if i got shot at night i know i'm a high priority target bc of my immense solving prowess

You are seriously overstating your own abilities...

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Post Post #2558  (isolation #103)  » Sat May 01, 2021 12:41 pm

In post 2555, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 2547, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I'm also a bit paranoid about Geraintm masterminding an early informed claim and defending Ico here but that's some big tin foil hat theory i'm not really going to take too seriously.

Brb got to talk to my therapist about how much anxiety this gives me

This makes me.sad.
I am soooo town

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Post Post #2573  (isolation #104)  » Tue May 04, 2021 3:15 am

@ Norway.

Like, i know Scum have not played well this game - they've lost 2 players in 2 days - but you think my plan was to out myself day 1 with a role that exactly correctly my partner, hammer partner day 1, then go out of my way to make myself so obviously linked to the other scum day 2.
i've got that right?

that is more believable to you than me just blurting out my town role?

Why do people playing MAfia need to go looking for something 27 times more unlikely than the simpler explanation?

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Post Post #2576  (isolation #105)  » Tue May 04, 2021 3:43 am

my role card was Informed Townie, and i was todl the followign information about the game's setup by the mod, that scum had a 1 shot strongman.

i blurted it out at the start because i was assuming town had some protective role, and i did not want town to get into the posistion where someone claimed doc and that they had used a protection but someone has still died, because that would just get too many people killed.

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Post Post #2577  (isolation #106)  » Tue May 04, 2021 3:47 am

Known roles (not seen this summary anywhere)

George Bailey - mafia goon
Datisi - town doctor
whooper - town roleblocker
iconeum - mafia 1 shot roleblocker
innocent villager - vanilla townie
geraintm - informed townie

claims

AliceK - Cop with clear on Anya

anything else i've missed?

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Post Post #2578  (isolation #107)  » Tue May 04, 2021 3:47 am

Alice - have you only had 1 investigation all game??

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Post Post #2580  (isolation #108)  » Tue May 04, 2021 3:50 am

Known roles (not seen this summary anywhere)

George Bailey - mafia goon
Datisi - town doctor
whooper - town roleblocker
iconeum - mafia 1 shot roleblocker
innocent villager - vanilla townie
geraintm - informed townie

claims

AliceK - Cop with clear on Anya
Not mafia - vigilante [forgot this]

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Post Post #2581  (isolation #109)  » Tue May 04, 2021 3:51 am

Players left

Not_Mafia - claimed Vigilante
Gypyx
geraintm - informed townie
NorwegianboyEE
Iconeum
innocentvillager
Anya - Green from a clear by ALice K
Luca Blight
AliceK - claimed cop
VP Baltar

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Post Post #2582  (isolation #110)  » Tue May 04, 2021 3:52 am

i am 100% beleiving Anya is town now by the way, i cannot see a situation where they are scum

Players left

Not_Mafia - claimed Vigilante
Gypyx
geraintm - informed townie
NorwegianboyEE
Anya - Green from a clear by ALice K
Luca Blight
AliceK - claimed cop
VP Baltar

[sorry, took that list from the front page and it wasn't updated]

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Post Post #2583  (isolation #111)  » Tue May 04, 2021 3:54 am

For me, the pool that scum could possibly be is

Gypyx
Norway
Luca
AliceK
VP Baltar

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Post Post #2594  (isolation #112)  » Tue May 04, 2021 5:13 am

In post 2590, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 2577, geraintm wrote:iconeum - mafia 1 shot roleblocker


Erm, he was a strongman, not a roleblocker

I'm wondering if this is a slip of what the other scum PR is, as a scum RB would make sense here

a slip. the slot above was roleblocker. i clearly knew they were strongman as it was in my claim

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Post Post #2597  (isolation #113)  » Tue May 04, 2021 5:18 am

there is literally no effort being made by people today so far to look beyond me. i am not surprised to be honest.

i will come up green, it is no great loss as town has a bunch of days left to work this out and i have literally nothing else to add to this game besides my initial claim.

oh, im not intimidated by the player list. i recognise i think..2 people? rest of you are utter blanks to me.

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Post Post #2598  (isolation #114)  » Tue May 04, 2021 5:19 am

In post 2595, Luca Blight wrote:I know you know, but in the moment such mistakes can happen

i love how the working theory is that i am some sort of scum mastermind who faked a claim day 1, then managed to get both my partners eliminated in the first 2 days and yet slip on this :)

still waiting to know if our cop has cleared anyone else besides ANya.

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Post Post #2600  (isolation #115)  » Tue May 04, 2021 5:20 am

and i love that my effort to change my playstyle, not do what i normally do in being hesitant in voting people off...has come back to people wanting to vote me off because i was hesitant to vote for people :)

i did try and change, honest, i just clearly cannot :)

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Post Post #2603  (isolation #116)  » Tue May 04, 2021 5:24 am

In post 2599, AliceK wrote:Yeah a lot of things are coming together. It doesn't look too good for you geraintm. I will probably vote you, but I will wait for everyone to post.


oh, i realise that i am gone. but, i am not going to be the one to find the final scum, others can do that. and my death will mean you will die tonight - they simply cannot let you clear anyone else

just seen your next post - your role clearly has something up with it.

i suspect you are going to make sure everything you know and why needs to be out in the open before the end of today because ....reasons

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Post Post #2604  (isolation #117)  » Tue May 04, 2021 5:25 am

In post 2602, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 2598, geraintm wrote:
In post 2595, Luca Blight wrote:I know you know, but in the moment such mistakes can happen

i love how the working theory is that i am some sort of scum mastermind who faked a claim day 1, then managed to get both my partners eliminated in the first 2 days and yet slip on this :)

still waiting to know if our cop has cleared anyone else besides ANya.


How would faking such a claim make you a scum mastermind?

It's not a bad play, but not exactly high level stuff either. It's something that could be true (although I've never seen a town informed of just a scum role before) but informed is probably the easiest fake claim scum can make.


trying something like that is way, way beyond my abilities as scum. i am bad scum and i think really obvious to spot.

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Post Post #2612  (isolation #118)  » Tue May 04, 2021 6:15 am

In post 2610, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 2220, geraintm wrote:sorry for being mostly absent today.

im not voting for gypyx anytime today. they;ll be found out later if it is fake.

i think i still kinda am on innocent villager myself. i've not seen nayone else in the game who i want to follow.


What did you mean by this

because they had claimed and i wasn't going to vote for someone who had claimed like they had.

see this post

In post 2084, geraintm wrote:
In post 6, Gypyx wrote:Anyways, here's my role crumb, it's not meant to be understood, and it is not possible for any of you guys to understeand it, really

(spoilered for convinience)

Spoiler:
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Spoiler:
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Spoiler:
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don, baron
)


anyone voting gypyx i feel needs to explain why they are with this post exisiting.
Because currently the thinking must be that Scum let George die and another scum made themselves this obvious right from the start of the game.
i don't buy that at all.
I won't be voting gypyx today.

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Post Post #2613  (isolation #119)  » Tue May 04, 2021 6:16 am

obviously my post 2346 is now total bunkum, some of the assumptions i made in it were 100% off

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Post Post #2614  (isolation #120)  » Tue May 04, 2021 6:20 am

In post 2611, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 2235, geraintm wrote:
In post 2221, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 2220, geraintm wrote:sorry for being mostly absent today.

im not voting for gypyx anytime today. they;ll be found out later if it is fake.


What?

Do you realize gypyx claimed vt?

yes, and if they turn out to be scum it will become more and more obvious as the game progresses. there is no need to vote Gypyx today


And this


i meant by this that someone claiming to be vanilla town would be found out by the end stage, you cannot keep it up. they get investigated, or their votes are so suspicous or else everyone else gets eliminated as possible scum. Gypyx was 100% not the right person to eliminate yesterday.

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Post Post #2615  (isolation #121)  » Tue May 04, 2021 6:24 am

In post 2605, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 2600, geraintm wrote:and i love that my effort to change my playstyle, not do what i normally do in being hesitant in voting people off...has come back to people wanting to vote me off because i was hesitant to vote for people :)

i did try and change, honest, i just clearly cannot :)


It's because your stances are weird.

You go against your principles to hard-defend george and say you won't vote him, only to suddenly hammer him when he's at E-1? That's the reason I said I was paranoid of you early D2, because I could easily see that being a scum move.


i am clearly playing the long game....screwing up being as townie as i possibly can be here so next time, people will just give me a straight up pass when i try something super dumb.

i hope the dead thread are enjoying today. if they have the final scum spoiled for them and they can see town trying to vote me off, i imagine they are tearing their hair out.
if they haven't, and they have this 1% possibility that i could be scum and i am trying to brazen this out for the next 3 or 4 game days....

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Post Post #2622  (isolation #122)  » Tue May 04, 2021 8:13 am

In post 2621, VP Baltar wrote:But I also kind of want the full Alice claim because that doc+cop combo is very OP

disrupted by the strongman from scum, and town roleblocker screwing it up?

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Post Post #2624  (isolation #123)  » Tue May 04, 2021 8:37 am

no, you said the combo is very overpowered, but i was saying that scum were given a strong man to break through the combo, so i didn't think it was too overpowered.

and added that i thought the town roleblocker is there to accidentally screw it up too.

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Post Post #2625  (isolation #124)  » Tue May 04, 2021 8:42 am

In post 2620, VP Baltar wrote:My gut agrees with the theory that the informed claim probably came from Ico if geraintm is scum.

any sort of plan like that would have had to come from my partner, i agree.

you can find other scum games of mine and see i would so wish for a partner who was that involved and had actual plans. i think the second to last time i was scum i had one day where they all disappared on me at the end of the day with things going horribly from there. and last i think i had a partner who just came out that they had a PR day 1 and it backed us into a corner by the end of the game and we got easily caught.

i am very much a passive scum player (i always beg my partners to not go wild with their crazy plans because i just know it is going to bring unnecessary heat on them), hoping to keep my head down and let town screw up. me coming out with a day 1 informed town claim would never come from me

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Post Post #2628  (isolation #125)  » Tue May 04, 2021 9:13 am

In post 2626, VP Baltar wrote:Let me ask you geraintm: do you believe Alice's claim?
Known roles, like ver 3

George Bailey - mafia goon
Datisi - town doctor
whooper - town roleblocker
iconeum - mafia 1 shot roleblocker
innocent villager - vanilla townie
geraintm - informed townie

claims

AliceK - Cop with clear on Anya
Not mafia - vigilante
gypyx - Vanilla townie

In post 2583, geraintm wrote:For me, the pool that scum could possibly be is

Gypyx
Norway
Luca
AliceK
VP Baltar


i wrote this earlier, i forgot the gypx claim when i did it.

I would have gypyx claim as like...90% trie
alice's cop claim....80% true

both strong enough that it is the Norway/Luca/VP Baltar trio i would stick to for now

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Post Post #2629  (isolation #126)  » Tue May 04, 2021 9:15 am

@ VP Baltar - from my experience, scum are likely to have something else besides a 1 shot strong man if the roles are as is, that doesn't seem like enough disruption from them otherwise?? but others are better than me at working out setups

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Post Post #2634  (isolation #127)  » Tue May 04, 2021 10:40 am

In post 2630, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 2628, geraintm wrote:iconeum - mafia 1 shot roleblocker

:?

copy paste....

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Post Post #2635  (isolation #128)  » Tue May 04, 2021 10:44 am

In post 2632, Gypyx wrote:gera : scum played bad

also gera : yo i'm not scum i wouldn't play that bad


im bad scum, but it is 100% not my style to draw attention to myself. so the way you think i am scum is so not what i would do.

like. people can keep pushing me if they want, but i know i am going to flip green if i get elimianted and i'll just be ther egoing "I told you so, i am not this scum mastermind who has led the charge by this mafia team to lose in 3 mights...."

i keep saying where i think i would look.

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Post Post #2636  (isolation #129)  » Tue May 04, 2021 10:46 am

In post 2631, VP Baltar wrote:Here is a fact: I think one of Alice or Geraintm is probably lying in this situation.

im not.
as i said i think alice is about 80% on telling the truth.

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Post Post #2639  (isolation #130)  » Tue May 04, 2021 10:59 am

In post 2637, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 2636, geraintm wrote:
In post 2631, VP Baltar wrote:Here is a fact: I think one of Alice or Geraintm is probably lying in this situation.

im not.
as i said i think alice is about 80% on telling the truth.

I mean, you realize your instincts this game have been the exact opposite of correct, right?


yes! its amazing! my day 2 when i thought innocent villager was scum and the push on iconeum was weird and meant they were likely town....like, i couldn't have got that any more spectacularly wrong.
the fact that town has hit scum 2 days in a row despite me....

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Post Post #2647  (isolation #131)  » Tue May 04, 2021 2:54 pm

we are still waiting for not mafia arent we btw?

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Post Post #2649  (isolation #132)  » Tue May 04, 2021 2:58 pm

In post 2646, VP Baltar wrote:8 alive, 1 scum.

Assuming no shenanigans, we'd have 3 executions left by my math (I am notoriously bad at math)



Not_Mafia <- Vigi claim
Gypyx
geraintm <- informed villager
NorwegianboyEE
Anya <-cleared by Alice, untouchable
Luca Blight
AliceK <- cop claim
VP Baltar

Elimination, IMO, should be within the Bolds. Italics are much lower down the totem.

I need to go through the wagons from before to see where people were.

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Post Post #2663  (isolation #133)  » Wed May 05, 2021 3:44 am

not mafia?

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Post Post #2665  (isolation #134)  » Wed May 05, 2021 6:10 am

GOing to look at the Gypyx/Norway/Luca/VP Baltar votes on past wagons and see if anything makes sense

Day 1
I am 95% sure this is going to go anywhere because of their VT claim.

Gypyx was on Innocent Villager for a long time
switched to George Bailey 3rd (V1.10)
never left

Day 2 - always on Innocent Villager

if they were bussing George Bailey day one, they were playing the long long game...

Norway

Moved to VP Baltar by V1.05
V1.06 - onto George Bailey
V1.07 - iconeum
v1.10 back to George

v1.13 - move to Anya
v1.14 back to george and stayed until hammer

Day 2, started off on Gypyx
then not voting
then hammered Iconeum

Hmmm...there is an awful lot going on in there. Has been on both eliminations of the 2 scum players. V1.13, the switch to Anya gives me pause (was it an attempt to derail the george wagon?)

Luca

starts off day 1 on Innocent Villager, then Alice K by V1.05
hits George Bailey in V1.06
moves to Anya for V1.11
back to GEorge V1.16 and is there for the elimination

DAy 2

On Iconeum by first vote count, but moved to Innocent Villager when the hammer went down

THis is looking the most suspicious of the voting patterns so far to me. it is the stepping away from GEorge Day 1 that looks worse
but so far all 3 were on the GEorge wagon

VP Baltar

was on Luca by V1.04
moves to Iconuem on 1.08.

to gypyx by V1.10

anya on V1.12 and stays there until hammer

Day 2

Starts off on Iconeum
then Gypyx
then back to Iconeum for the hammer


Assuming scum is in this group - man they all want to vote for their partners and they have all at least once been there for the elimination of one of them.

My thoughts:

VP Baltar - they were not on GEorge Day 1, if they are scum and get to Day 2 and their plan is to bus their partner from the start, knowing they are already 1 member of the team down - then that to me feels ballsy.

Gypyx

if they didn't have their claim, i would be looking a this a little side eyed. but not too much. i believe they were the longing serving member of the George Bailey wagon.

Both Norway and Luca look suspicious to me.

very similar voting patterns of on GEorge for a long time, then both move to Anya before going back for the hammer
Day 2 - Norway hammered scum Iconeum. Luca started on Iconeum but had moved off by the end.

Weight of my thinking....i cannot really separate either of them, it is acoin flip for me between Norway and Luca.

Is my thinking clean enough for people?
Anyone want to clarify anything i've said?

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Post Post #2666  (isolation #135)  » Wed May 05, 2021 6:11 am

can people hold off on too many more votes please until Not_mafia actually joins us today....

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Post Post #2668  (isolation #136)  » Wed May 05, 2021 6:48 am

@ alice - yep, i think they would try and avoid eliminating both their partners, why i was looking for people who tried to jump off the wagons

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Post Post #2670  (isolation #137)  » Wed May 05, 2021 7:40 am

In post 2669, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Geraint, i can’t take you aeriously when you actually suggest me and Luca are scum here.

i wouldn't either, this game i have been so bad.
but have to say what i am thinking.
i should probably just be voting with Anya the whole day. i said my plan was to latch onto the towniest townie i could find.

still waiting on our missing member though...

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Post Post #2692  (isolation #138)  » Wed May 05, 2021 2:30 pm

In post 2690, Not_Mafia wrote:Elim geraint

helpful

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Post Post #2728  (isolation #139)  » Thu May 06, 2021 8:31 am

sorry for not posting more.

You all seem to think that i, as scum, would make myself day 1 the most visible person in the game, give an exact descritption of my partners role and spend the rest of the game visibly saying the wagons on my partners were terrible ideas, just in case i hadn't outed myself enough in the game?

i know i said at the start of the game i was aiming to change my style of play, but i think a few of you have played with me before and you think this is what i would do?

if i was scum, i would be wallowing in self pity in the scum thread bemoaning my situation...

but you all do you. no one else has any interest in where i want to look. i'm going to flip green so work out who has been pushing me and link back to the previous eliminations. the answer should be there.

VOTE: luca
i said i would follow the towniest townie later in the game, and this is where anya wants to go and everyone in this game has crapped all over every read i have had (mostly with good reason to be fair), so i'm giving into the inevitable....

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Post Post #2733  (isolation #140)  » Thu May 06, 2021 9:26 am

not mafia to come in shortly and hammer.

i will flip green. you need to work out what to do tomorrow when someone gets killed.

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Post Post #2734  (isolation #141)  » Thu May 06, 2021 9:27 am

you have anya as comfirmed town, you need to work with the various claimed power roles and see how small a pool you have left.

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Post Post #2736  (isolation #142)  » Thu May 06, 2021 9:50 am

thats the hammer.
i am going to flip green.
you have some twilight now to work out what to do - see if you can plan anything with the cop investigation and the potential vig - i don't know how limited they were in their use.

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Post Post #2737  (isolation #143)  » Thu May 06, 2021 9:52 am

i dont have much else to add, ive said what i have said and it has either been very very wrong or ignored the rest of the game.

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Post Post #2739  (isolation #144)  » Thu May 06, 2021 10:52 am

Why would you say that?

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Post Post #2744  (isolation #145)  » Thu May 06, 2021 5:39 pm

In post 2743, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: Luca

you are infuriating to play with, and the rest of town to just ignore your absence is just.....

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Post Post #2941  (isolation #146)  » Tue May 18, 2021 4:55 am

i'm just confused how you all decided i was a good choice on day 3 :(
and how you let norway get away with pushing it.

still no idea how to appear townie....


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