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[geraintm]

My gut agrees with the theory that the informed claim probably came from Ico if geraintm is scum.

any sort of plan like that would have had to come from my partner, i agree.

you can find other scum games of mine and see i would so wish for a partner who was that involved and had actual plans. i think the second to last time i was scum i had one day where they all disappared on me at the end of the day with things going horribly from there. and last i think i had a partner who just came out that they had a PR day 1 and it backed us into a corner by the end of the game and we got easily caught.

i am very much a passive scum player (i always beg my partners to not go wild with their crazy plans because i just know it is going to bring unnecessary heat on them), hoping to keep my head down and let town screw up. me coming out with a day 1 informed town claim would never come from me

[VP Baltar]

Let me ask you geraintm: do you believe Alice's claim?

[VP Baltar]

no, you said the combo is very overpowered, but i was saying that scum were given a strong man to break through the combo, so i didn't think it was too overpowered.

and added that i thought the town roleblocker is there to accidentally screw it up too.

IDK...from my perspective, that is a lot of contingency to nerf the doc/cop combo. No guarantees it happens.

[geraintm]

Let me ask you geraintm: do you believe Alice's claim?

Known roles, like ver 3

George Bailey - mafia goon
Datisi - town doctor
whooper - town roleblocker
iconeum - mafia 1 shot roleblocker
innocent villager - vanilla townie
geraintm - informed townie

claims

AliceK - Cop with clear on Anya
Not mafia - vigilante
gypyx - Vanilla townie

For me, the pool that scum could possibly be is

Gypyx
Norway
Luca
AliceK
VP Baltar

i wrote this earlier, i forgot the gypx claim when i did it.

I would have gypyx claim as like...90% trie
alice's cop claim....80% true

both strong enough that it is the Norway/Luca/VP Baltar trio i would stick to for now

[geraintm]

@ VP Baltar - from my experience, scum are likely to have something else besides a 1 shot strong man if the roles are as is, that doesn't seem like enough disruption from them otherwise?? but others are better than me at working out setups

[VP Baltar]

iconeum - mafia 1 shot roleblocker

[VP Baltar]

Here is a fact: I think one of Alice or Geraintm is probably lying in this situation.

[Gypyx]

gera : scum played bad

also gera : yo i'm not scum i wouldn't play that bad

[Gypyx]

also also gera : i'm bad at scum

[geraintm]

iconeum - mafia 1 shot roleblocker

copy paste....

[geraintm]

gera : scum played bad

also gera : yo i'm not scum i wouldn't play that bad

im bad scum, but it is 100% not my style to draw attention to myself. so the way you think i am scum is so not what i would do.

like. people can keep pushing me if they want, but i know i am going to flip green if i get elimianted and i'll just be ther egoing "I told you so, i am not this scum mastermind who has led the charge by this mafia team to lose in 3 mights...."

i keep saying where i think i would look.

[geraintm]

Here is a fact: I think one of Alice or Geraintm is probably lying in this situation.

im not.
as i said i think alice is about 80% on telling the truth.

[VP Baltar]

Here is a fact: I think one of Alice or Geraintm is probably lying in this situation.

im not.
as i said i think alice is about 80% on telling the truth.

I mean, you realize your instincts this game have been the exact opposite of correct, right?

[VP Baltar]

Alternative theory here is that Gypyx is like a mafia roleblocker or like jailkeeper and I could squint to see balance there.

The IV kill is weird, but had it been Luca or myself, MAYBE that would have pointed harder at gypyx?

[geraintm]

Here is a fact: I think one of Alice or Geraintm is probably lying in this situation.

im not.
as i said i think alice is about 80% on telling the truth.

I mean, you realize your instincts this game have been the exact opposite of correct, right?

yes! its amazing! my day 2 when i thought innocent villager was scum and the push on iconeum was weird and meant they were likely town....like, i couldn't have got that any more spectacularly wrong.
the fact that town has hit scum 2 days in a row despite me....

[Anya]

Here is a fact: I think one of Alice or Geraintm is probably lying in this situation.

my fortune's telling me the same

[Anya]

Ico was trying to swim away from alice last minute yesterday and her progression on ico also could be a train

VOTE: Alice

[Anya]

actually gera is a shining example of town and i don't know what you're all smoking (can i have some?)

probably Gypyx if not Alice

did everyone else write down their roles?

[VP Baltar]

did everyone else write down their roles?

I stuck mine to my forehead.

I do agree with Anya though that the more I think about it, the less I think geraintm is scum here.

I still may mostly want to yeet Gypyx today. There are a couple scenarios I'm thinking of now where maybe Alice is town.

[Gypyx]

how many exes do we have?

[VP Baltar]

Alice, did you crumb your claim?

[VP Baltar]

8 alive, 1 scum.

Assuming no shenanigans, we'd have 3 executions left by my math (I am notoriously bad at math)

[geraintm]

we are still waiting for not mafia arent we btw?

[Gypyx]

hmmm

fuck

let's hope theorize for an additional vig shot in the bag too?

cuz i got a feeling that if this ain't gera we lose

[geraintm]

8 alive, 1 scum.

Assuming no shenanigans, we'd have 3 executions left by my math (I am notoriously bad at math)

Not_Mafia

<- Vigi claim

Gypyx

geraintm <- informed villager

NorwegianboyEE

Anya <-cleared by Alice, untouchable

Luca Blight

AliceK

<- cop claim

VP Baltar

Elimination, IMO, should be within the Bolds. Italics are much lower down the totem.

I need to go through the wagons from before to see where people were.