DEFCON Mafia 5.0: GAME OVER - NEW AMERICA FORMED

[Cephrir]

Does anyone have beer in a gif?

I need to chill out because people should have at minimum evaluated why no counter wagon.

no I do not because I am a real american who believes in restoring the 18th amendment

but also people were pretty much set on mastina before votes were a thing, I think mafia resigned themselves to that if mastina was mafia

idk i honestly thought et al was going to be a big wagon today and i'm surprised it didn't materialize

[Mognet]

Does anyone have beer in a gif?

I need to chill out because people should have at minimum evaluated why no counter wagon.

no I do not because I am a real american who believes in restoring the 18th amendment

but also people were pretty much set on mastina before votes were a thing, I think mafia resigned themselves to that if mastina was mafia

idk i honestly thought et al was going to be a big wagon today and i'm surprised it didn't materialize

There we go.

And look who Mastina scumreads...

See! This is content!

And the Church of Skitter has been doing very little talking about Skitter

[Vaxkiller]

@mognet

Why are you arguing about mastina minutiae unrelated to how you read them. You are very consumed with the why, but literally only the why part. Your arguments do not appear to be sorting anyone out... they are just arguments.

[Nexus]

Does anyone have beer in a gif?

I need to chill out because people should have at minimum evaluated why no counter wagon.

no I do not because I am a real american who believes in restoring the 18th amendment

but also people were pretty much set on mastina before votes were a thing, I think mafia resigned themselves to that if mastina was mafia

idk i honestly thought et al was going to be a big wagon today and i'm surprised it didn't materialize

ur so good at this game ceph

[Mognet]

@mognet

Why are you arguing about mastina minutiae unrelated to how you read them. You are very consumed with the why, but literally only the why part. Your arguments do not appear to be sorting anyone out... they are just arguments.

The why informs the arguments Target Kupo.

Until I know the why I don’t form a read.

Most of the reasoning if not all of it on Mastina seems bad. Not everyone on the Mastina wagon is scum. So if Mastina is town the people who had bad reasoning and why are more likely scum. If Mastina is scum then look at inactives and why they were off wagon or the why on wagon and was it defeatist or not.

The why forms arguments. Eg Joqiza being wishywashy doesn’t have a good why or prompt making him more likely scum. Titus seems to have a narrative and/or bias making her more likely scum

The why forms the puzzle pieces that form reads.

[DeathNote]

I haven't posted in 48 hours and need to post in 24 or be replaced

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Does anyone have beer in a gif?

I need to chill out because people should have at minimum evaluated why no counter wagon.

no I do not because I am a real american who believes in restoring the 18th amendment

but also people were pretty much set on mastina before votes were a thing, I think mafia resigned themselves to that if mastina was mafia

idk i honestly thought et al was going to be a big wagon today and i'm surprised it didn't materialize

IM SURPRISED ANYONE THINKS ET AL COULD BE SCUM AFTER SKITTER DID HER "IF I FLIP TOWN YOU GUYS NEED TO MAKE SURE POOKY DIES" THING

[The Entity]

you arguing because she had a personal anecdote that she is autistic is slimy and I called that out. And I call that out every time.

This literally never fucking happened except in your mind. At no point did I mention "mastina is autistic because she had a personal anecdote". I never even mentioned autism. You did.

That was not meant as infantilizing my point is attack the play not the player.

The fact she told a personal anecdote should have had nothing to do with your read

I called out the behavior as scummy. Contributing noise to the thread. Posting just to post and not having game-related content. That is scummy.

It is scummy behavior. Am I not supposed to call that out? The PLAY is scummy. Substituting actual content for personal anecdotes is scummy and it's something mastina has done time and time again. (If I gave a shit about meta, I'd point out how, the time I caught her and posted the infamous video about mastina's scumplay, it was because she was doing exactly this same shit. But I don't.)

You basically went "Well it's okay she's autistic" as a way to hand-wave the entire case I posted against her. As if because she's autistic we need to play with kid gloves on and not call out scummy play when we see it.

Peak virtue signaling

[The Entity]

Does anyone have beer in a gif?

I need to chill out because people should have at minimum evaluated why no counter wagon.

no I do not because I am a real american who believes in restoring the 18th amendment

but also people were pretty much set on mastina before votes were a thing, I think mafia resigned themselves to that if mastina was mafia

idk i honestly thought et al was going to be a big wagon today and i'm surprised it didn't materialize

Why?

And what was your read on Et Al?

[The Church of Skitter]

P.EDIT: You do understand that by the balance of the game, a lot of town are going to die, correct? This wagon/elimination is meaningless in the grand scheme of DEFCON. The second nukes are free it's gonna get real messy real fast. Maybe that's why you're doing all this hemming and hawwing about this, because it's the last chance you'll have to exert any control over the gamestate or posture or something? It's just weird to me. It's a Day 1 elimination. Who cares if mastina flips town or scum, really? We're just trying to get to the nukes.

THIS
SO MUCH THIS
PREACH

[The Church of Skitter]

town honestly

[marry]

you arguing because she had a personal anecdote that she is autistic is slimy and I called that out. And I call that out every time.

This literally never fucking happened except in your mind. At no point did I mention "mastina is autistic because she had a personal anecdote". I never even mentioned autism. You did.

That was not meant as infantilizing my point is attack the play not the player.

The fact she told a personal anecdote should have had nothing to do with your read

I called out the behavior as scummy. Contributing noise to the thread. Posting just to post and not having game-related content. That is scummy.

It is scummy behavior. Am I not supposed to call that out? The PLAY is scummy. Substituting actual content for personal anecdotes is scummy and it's something mastina has done time and time again. (If I gave a shit about meta, I'd point out how, the time I caught her and posted the infamous video about mastina's scumplay, it was because she was doing exactly this same shit. But I don't.)

You basically went "Well it's okay she's autistic" as a way to hand-wave the entire case I posted against her. As if because she's autistic we need to play with kid gloves on and not call out scummy play when we see it.

Peak virtue signaling

before you posted this, i went back to see who even brought up autism first and couldn't find it for +5 pages prior so i was kinda shocked it was brought up out of the blue

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I hate that this has become this.

[The Church of Skitter]

And the Church of Skitter has been doing very little talking about Skitter

What is there to talk about?

Like actually
what is there to talk about?

[Mognet]

you arguing because she had a personal anecdote that she is autistic is slimy and I called that out. And I call that out every time.

This literally never fucking happened except in your mind. At no point did I mention "mastina is autistic because she had a personal anecdote". I never even mentioned autism. You did.

That was not meant as infantilizing my point is attack the play not the player.

The fact she told a personal anecdote should have had nothing to do with your read

I called out the behavior as scummy. Contributing noise to the thread. Posting just to post and not having game-related content. That is scummy.

It is scummy behavior. Am I not supposed to call that out? The PLAY is scummy. Substituting actual content for personal anecdotes is scummy and it's something mastina has done time and time again. (If I gave a shit about meta, I'd point out how, the time I caught her and posted the infamous video about mastina's scumplay, it was because she was doing exactly this same shit. But I don't.)

You basically went "Well it's okay she's autistic" as a way to hand-wave the entire case I posted against her. As if because she's autistic we need to play with kid gloves on and not call out scummy play when we see it.

Peak virtue signaling

You linked her personal anecdote of her being autistic. You absolutely should call out scummy play when you see it. I just don’t see that here. Her entire point was my posts are long because I am autistic. That’s what she said. That’s not scummy. That’s addressing the concerns raised.

[The Church of Skitter]

Like why would I even need to talk about skitter?
I already talked to her earlier. Does that not satisfy you?

[marry]

did mastina even bring up being autistic am i missing something

[The Entity]

I'm going to need some hardcore convincing to not instantly turn Mognet into a radioactive crater at the earliest opportunity.

[marry]

oh so she did, and moglet is saying we shouldnt use mastina's long posts against her because she stated its because shes autistic, but on the other hand its mafia

[Mognet]

oh so she did, and moglet is saying we shouldnt use mastina's long posts against her because she stated its because shes autistic, but on the other hand its mafia

This. Exactly.

That’s my point exactly.

[The Church of Skitter]

I'm going to need some hardcore convincing to not instantly turn Mognet into a radioactive crater at the earliest opportunity.

Fuck em dude

[marry]

in the "its mafia" defense, i have a memory disorder which makes mafia quite difficult for me. i try not to bring it up unless necessary and still expect people to hold me accountable regardless and if they think its scummy i dont remember my d1 reads or that i said X thing, go for it bc its mafia and like. scummy is scummy, regardless of reasons

apples and oranges though

[Mognet]

I'm going to need some hardcore convincing to not instantly turn Mognet into a radioactive crater at the earliest opportunity.

Then do it.

If I die for defending a good friend of mine so be it.

I would do it again and again and again.

This btw is defense Titus.

I feel it is defending Mastina’s character here.

[Mognet]

Like why would I even need to talk about skitter?
I already talked to her earlier. Does that not satisfy you?

Not really. Your handle is Church of skitter

So I figured you’d care a lot about Skitter

[marry]

Lady showed me the light albeit it took me fumbling a lot so i am following Lady and also just want to see war