Mini 2206 - Deja Vu: Perpetual MELO IV - END!

[SirCakez]

i feel like i'd be happier right now if we only had town flips right now at least I wouldn't have the missed Peta and NM scum elims staring at me LMAO

[Iverson]

This is one of the least souldraining games I've played onsite tbh but I am not exactly finding it interesting.

Not particularly enjoyable is a big upgrade.

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 3-2

-- oneoftheclan, deviantart

SirCakez

(1): Iverson

Iverson

(1): SirCakez

Disaster Cartel

(1): Infinity 324

Not Voting

(5): notscience, Venus Fly Trap, Momrangal, Kismet, Disaster Cartel

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: May 21, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-05-20 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[skitter30]

this has not been one of my better games reads-wise >.>

~
so this is where i'm at rn. in my mind the game is kinda divided into tiers:
{bork/mena-ydrasse}
{infinity/notsci}
{sircakez/mom/prism}

the only two people i'm still quasi-confident on are bork and mena. bork i still think is out of his scumrange and i just don't think mena interacts with nm that way, despite ydrasse's hammer. it's possible i'm getting snowed by the people in this group but i don't think i'm willing to vote there today. if i'm wrong on one of them rn i don't think this is something i can positively identify today with the information i have, and these aren't the people i want to spend today's vote on.

i would say *if* there's scum in that group there's max one. i can't like make the game make sense in my mind if both of them are, it just doesn't compute for me.

then the infinity/notsci tier. my heart kinda wants them both to be town but i have a really bad sinking feeling that this just isn't the universe we live in at this point. i townread them both early game but at this point those reasons no longer suffice. in particular i'm kinda getting suspicious of infinity and i feel like she's dropped off a lot in a way that's rather reminiscent of her scum MO. these are the reads i definitely want to re-evaluate but probably wouldn't vote today

and then the last tier i think is the best bet for hitting scum, and i think there's at least one, probably two, in there
i actually like sircakez out of all of them the best: i like his entrance today, he's p persistantly pushed for nm yesterday, and he also has anti-partner associatives with l/g
i still think mom is scummy, and am just not convinced by any of the reasons presented for townreading her
and i utterly hate everything prism has done since/including the hammer

i would want to vote in the last two today

~ skitter

[Venus Fly Trap]

this has not been one of my better games reads-wise >.>

~
so this is where i'm at rn. in my mind the game is kinda divided into tiers:
{bork/mena-ydrasse}
{infinity/notsci}
{sircakez/mom/prism}

the only two people i'm still quasi-confident on are bork and mena. bork i still think is out of his scumrange and i just don't think mena interacts with nm that way, despite ydrasse's hammer. it's possible i'm getting snowed by the people in this group but i don't think i'm willing to vote there today. if i'm wrong on one of them rn i don't think this is something i can positively identify today with the information i have, and these aren't the people i want to spend today's vote on.

i would say *if* there's scum in that group there's max one. i can't like make the game make sense in my mind if both of them are, it just doesn't compute for me.

then the infinity/notsci tier. my heart kinda wants them both to be town but i have a really bad sinking feeling that this just isn't the universe we live in at this point. i townread them both early game but at this point those reasons no longer suffice. in particular i'm kinda getting suspicious of infinity and i feel like she's dropped off a lot in a way that's rather reminiscent of her scum MO. these are the reads i definitely want to re-evaluate but probably wouldn't vote today

and then the last tier i think is the best bet for hitting scum, and i think there's at least one, probably two, in there
i actually like sircakez out of all of them the best: i like his entrance today, he's p persistantly pushed for nm yesterday, and he also has anti-partner associatives with l/g
i still think mom is scummy, and am just not convinced by any of the reasons presented for townreading her
and i utterly hate everything prism has done since/including the hammer

i would want to vote in the last two today

~ skitter

fuuuuck

[Iverson]

At this point I'd like to just concede if skitter is town.

[Venus Fly Trap]

i don't know what you're trying to say

~ skitter

[Iverson]

i like his [Cakez] entrance today, he's p persistantly pushed for nm yesterday, and he also has anti-partner associatives with l/g

Absolutely not

and i utterly hate everything prism has done since/including the hammer

Hated everything I did before the hammer, same vague shit with no followthrough for like 2 weeks now, what I've done since the hammer is hardshove another person in the bottom tier

[Venus Fly Trap]

yes my pick for the townie in the bottom tier >.>
i think your push on him is gross

~ skitter

[Iverson]

i don't know what you're trying to say

~ skitter

It is saying this game is lost if you are town because even if by some miracle you manage to not vote me the chance of me not voting you in 4 way is zero.

[Iverson]

yes my pick for the townie in the bottom tier >.>
i think your push on him is gross

~ skitter

Descriptive as always.

[Venus Fly Trap]

well then
but yes i am strongly inclined to vote u today

pedit ty

~ skitter

[Iverson]

So do it.

[Infinity 324]

i feel like she's dropped off a lot in a way that's rather reminiscent of her scum MO.

Can you be more specific? I don't think I drop off like this usually and I tend to have less conviction as scum

[Venus Fly Trap]

You watched me openly blitz the town wagon and are just now realizing I might be scum like ???

Can you explain how that thought process on me just evolved considering you had 60 hours of knowing I blitzed the Bulge wagon without really thinking about it until I voted your slot?

surprisingly decent answer

I'm probably going to check out for the (real life) day but two different players cannot see a town motivation in what I did, are not voting, and Cakez magically does not see the town motivation only now that I have voted him. Utilizing his earlier answer, maybe there might have been town motivation in his mind as long as Not_Mafia might have been town since that's what he was waiting on before he judged the blitz.

rn I'm just trying to decide who has higher scum equity between notsci and Iverson

I am not unvoting you at any point so might as well let scum blitz it if I am wrong.

very much dislike this sequence; i don't understand: a) why he's your top pick for scum (or, at the very least, why he's the person you're voting today to the point where you're not willing to unvote him) b) i thought his answer to 2733 was quite godo and i'm nto sure why that isn't changing your mind on him

pedit: i'm not quite at the point where i'm willing to vote yet

[Momrangal]

How can you say you buy town!cakes for his push on NM but it completely ignore the fact that its probably the biggest reason for town!mara?

How is also everyone completely ignoring the fact that cakes/NM interactions are shit, the fact that cakes danced around NM d1 and pushed for me as a partner for NM, said that scum were bussing NM yesterday but is now pushing against anyone who eas on the NM wagon despite having scum read me for the past two days?

[Iverson]

It doesn't actually matter what alignment Not_Mafia was when it comes to blitzing. It mattered what alignment Bulge was, and it is very clear based off daystart that Cakez was not actively thinking on it overnight and is improvising. The conditional was not on his mind at start of day even if it was in fact relevant, and it took me essentially gladiating him to have him work through it.

[Venus Fly Trap]

i feel like she's dropped off a lot in a way that's rather reminiscent of her scum MO.

Can you be more specific? I don't think I drop off like this usually and I tend to have less conviction as scum

i associate more activity + pushing-ness with town-you and while you were kinda like that in early game it's the sort of thing i think you have a very hard time keeping up so the read has devolved. and can u show me where you think you're being conviction-ful (i'm sure there's a real word for that but it's escaping my mind atm)
fwiw panic room is the baseline i'm going off of

[Momrangal]

Im not sure about Iverson being scum here. I kinda hate the position were in because we now gotta pinpoint the remaining three scum to even win

[Iverson]

I'm pretty sure my statement above+statements on interactions w/ flipped slots suffice to answer the first question.

[Venus Fly Trap]

It doesn't actually matter what alignment Not_Mafia was when it comes to blitzing. It mattered what alignment Bulge was, and it is very clear based off daystart that Cakez was not actively thinking on it overnight and is improvising. The conditional was not on his mind at start of day even if it was in fact relevant, and it took me essentially gladiating him to have him work through it.

right, he seemed to have been thinking through while u were talking to him
i'm not really sure why that's scummy hto
(or why yesterday you were calling to like 'coach' him through this process and explicilty call him *not* scum but today it's scummy either)

[Infinity 324]

i associate more activity + pushing-ness with town-you and while you were kinda like that in early game it's the sort of thing i think you have a very hard time keeping up so the read has devolved. and can u show me where you think you're being conviction-ful (i'm sure there's a real word for that but it's escaping my mind atm)
fwiw panic room is the baseline i'm going off of

My whole interaction with bulge d2 (until I doubted myself), my interaction with iverson today feels like things I would've approached with less convinction as scum

Panic room is not a great baseline because I mostly dropped off because I felt like the game was lost, but I do sometimes tend to drop off as scum

[Iverson]

right, he seemed to have been thinking through while u were talking to him
i'm not really sure why that's scummy hto
(or why yesterday you were calling to like 'coach' him through this process and explicilty call him *not* scum but today it's scummy either)

With this I'm throwing in the towel for the night.

[Venus Fly Trap]

How can you say you buy town!cakes for his push on NM but it completely ignore the fact that its probably the biggest reason for town!mara?

How is also everyone completely ignoring the fact that cakes/NM interactions are shit, the fact that cakes danced around NM d1 and pushed for me as a partner for NM, said that scum were bussing NM yesterday

but is now pushing against anyone who eas on the NM wagon despite having scum read me for the past two days?

he was on nm all day tho yesterday tho
where do u think he was dancing around nm day1? i'm also not sure i really remember that being a thing ...

WE ARE ELIMMING ON BULGE WAGON TODAY

he also literally wants to push the people voting bulge so idk what the bolded is trying to say

[Iverson]

I am fine with you thinking I am scum and request that you vote me regardless of alignment while I am gone.