Mini Normal 2205: RotITGBSMoD [game over!]

[DkKoba]

maybe it is 3 docs and its anya/andres/(1 of clidd/asteria/lemon)

[DkKoba]

no i dont understand how you pulled this logic out when clearly people were waiting on a claim

[DkKoba]

lmao you know its bunk dont you.

[DkKoba]

you know i dont like to claim

[DkKoba]

how do you explain tracker claim dying first?

[DkKoba]

thats why asteria has to be scum here

[DkKoba]

scum are not going to believe town!you is going to quickhammer.

hell I wouldn't expect town!you to quickhammer.

the fact you say you would there is concerning.

fact is, scum want to be off a wagon like that where its easy pickings where theres already a lot of town on the wagon.

[DkKoba]

I know the sentiment, I try to be off as many town wagons as I can be as scum

[DkKoba]

Like you’re telling me all of the gun claims alive refused to execute you or decided not to vote you when you were Town and almost exclusively wagoned by other Town? Particularly after there was massive overlap with a Dragons wagon? C’mon now I’m not stupid there’s something fishy here.

the wagon. literally. dissipated. right. after. I. claimed.

[DkKoba]

vote count 1.27

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-04-21 10:15:00).

execution

Green Crayons [5]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, VFP, Robert M Hunter, Andante, T3

PookyTheMagicalBear [2]:

InsidiousLemons, osuka

Asteria [1]:

Anya

Andresvmb [1]:

Save The Dragons

Save The Dragons [1]:

Andresvmb

VFP [1]:

Salsabil Faria

not voting [2]:

Green Crayons, Asteria

mod notes

~ insidiouslemons v/la most of today and on the 21st

flavour

DkKoba replaces Green Crayons. deadline is in 36 hours.

vc in like... 10 minutes. i need a coffee.

lemons is v/la during this time btw

[DkKoba]

I know the sentiment, I try to be off as many town wagons as I can be as scum

The point is 2 Scum at that stage at the very least were in fact off. Only one has to vote you and you’re almost surely doomed. And if Dragons is flipped after being almost exclusively wagoned by Town D1, the overlap would have caused massive confusion. But instead, you’re saved, a wagon is started on VFP that then moves onto Dragons and Dragons dies. And you’re telling me I’m supposed to believe you’re the Towniest of the claims?

yes???

[DkKoba]

scum aren't infallible and can be too scared to make power moves like that

[DkKoba]

u know what i can't believe u are doing this in good faith.

im legacy pinning andres as my dying scumread to get outside of gun claims.

asteria prob spewed town here bc scum want to have roleblocker available here to block them

dont vote fast pls btw if ur town that literally loses games everytime and im not here for it.

clidd + lemon + andres ?

[DkKoba]

very

[DkKoba]

whatever i can't control the whims of scum and i feel like scum are going to be more passive and not want to push it forward.

[DkKoba]

when STD was the counterwagon, they were big chilling

[DkKoba]

yes

[DkKoba]

koba if we flip you and you're town, who do you want us to flip from the gun-claims next tomm?

hot take but andres but also dont rush please

[DkKoba]

anya quickhammered on d1 we cant even trust that slot lets be real

and youre saying we can trust _you_? scum rb just staying on a claimed weak vig is awfully convenient isnt it?

how convenient of you to just show up just as talk of my elim starts back up

[DkKoba]

does it?

in that case lemon slipped and we should be voting there

[DkKoba]

anya and osuka nowhere to be seen

i literally worked until 2 am last night, fuck off

fake mad lmfao

[DkKoba]

ok so i just won a town game with anya in it - lowkey my read on anya has been flipping in it because of it, and i lean town on her here based off it now, even though her push on me is bad.

[DkKoba]

ok so i just won a town game with anya in it - lowkey my read on anya has been flipping in it because of it, and i lean town on her here based off it now, even though her push on me is bad.

what's giving you this feeling? gonna take a look at the game but i'd like to hear your thoughts since you were in it

no.

[DkKoba]

i'm not gonna make too much fun of you because i would feel bad, armed with the knowledge that life is probably already hard enough for someone of your wit

I see your come backs are just as weak as your catch ups.
Bless you for trying, I guess.

have at it, i'm constrained because i've been warned several times for having said uncomfortable truths about other players' mental acuity and i don't want to be force-replaced because that would make datisi sad, so i'm just gonna leave my beliefs about you strongly implied

I do not believe that Osuka confused Andante with asteria given how much of a song and dance Osuka has made over it.

believe what you want, you're quite literally incapable of making a case to a stunning degree so really i already know ahead of time nothing useful is coming out of your slot. feel free to try

can we not do this?

[DkKoba]

[DkKoba]

can yall stop ur prob both town

[DkKoba]

really? lmfao

[DkKoba]

fuck this.

[DkKoba]

i give up./

[DkKoba]

do whatever yall want

[DkKoba]

whats the point if no one is listening.

[DkKoba]

I think its most likely 1 scum with a gun.
A traitor of some sort and a doc seems mist likely as no gun.

So that means 2 of the 4 PR claims are scum.
If 2 scum have guns then 3 of the 4 PR claims are scum.

ready to vote dkkoba?

remember when they claimed to target you and thought it made you a wolf when you didn't die bc both them and you were protected by mafia docs?

remember how outlandish and unrealistic that was like we'd entered a circus full of triangles?

i remember

I need to go over each one again and include who they pick as the 2 scum.
Also here's my thinking. Although I favour Asteria and Dk right now (solo not partnered), scum can't kill in the PRs tonight.

That means that they can roleblock (if true) 1 of Dk or asteria.
If both claim roleblocked then asteria is the scum.

The other downside is, do we want Dk to shoot if we mis lim anyway?
I'll go over it more tomorrow but I have work in 6 hours so I'm going to bed.

i didnt wanna say it bc i wanted to trick scum into RBing me again, but if I were to shoot after a mislim today and i wasn't RBed, we would lose likely.

[DkKoba]

cool

[DkKoba]

im not

[DkKoba]

i forgot this game existed when i woke up lol hi

[DkKoba]

i really dont think its clidd bc their timing was just towny and not necessary since we were already limming in PR claims before they claimed

[DkKoba]

@Dk

Welcome back.

Do you have any takes on Lemon/Asteria?

Both seem to consider you the town side by mech.

i still think lemon has to be scum here and their choice of check is just like definitive proof of that to me

[DkKoba]

I wonder why you were scumposting on the last page before engaging with me.

Where do you think I was scumposting?

i really dont think its clidd bc their timing was just towny and not necessary since we were already limming in PR claims before they claimed

What do you think of them preferring this PoE to the VT PoE though?

I'm willing to go into VT poe but I understand where clidd is coming from.

[DkKoba]

I wonder why you were scumposting on the last page before engaging with me.

Where do you think I was scumposting?

i really dont think its clidd bc their timing was just towny and not necessary since we were already limming in PR claims before they claimed

What do you think of them preferring this PoE to the VT PoE though?

I'm willing to go into VT poe but I understand where clidd is coming from.

Wait what do you mean you're willing to go into the VT PoE?

I mean i am willing to vote outside of PR claims today

[DkKoba]

i might as well be

[DkKoba]

the only chance for me to be cleared was supposedly wasted too

[DkKoba]

can we get a vc?

[DkKoba]

VOTE: Asteria

[DkKoba]

I already said i scumread the slot dont give me those eyes

[DkKoba]

these clidd votes are garbage

[DkKoba]

And anya are you really using backwards logic to case me? Yeah i forgot about the game i was honest about that. Wanna bring out more NAI stuff?

[DkKoba]

Also ive played as a weak hider in the past i thought i understood how it worked plus its on the wiki that roleblocks make it not work but at the same time my brain was thinking abt the informed doc stuff

[DkKoba]

I'm quite confident clidd is our lying gun claim. Lemons has at least been consistently acting like they knew there were for sure too many gun claims, and not just that there probably are too many but it's still possible scum only have 1 gun. After clidd I'm not very confident between Koba and Lemons. Koba makes sense by mech, Lemons makes sense by play, clidd just doesn't make sense.

Like this is clearly trying to set up back to.back lims here

[DkKoba]

i think i want asteria today, but if you all think that's insane i'm willing to listen. i would be happy with a vfp exec here

I still can't see how anyone would ever consider you as a serious player when all game you have just said lets lim VFP, even though there's a VT result claim on me.
It really shows the level of Mafia games these days. I feel it doesn't get better from here either.

my apologies - it seems that while writing that post, i forgot the fact that you're incapable of inference

if asteria is scum, which i think is likely to be the case, you're not cleared. you are, in fact, mechanically, an objectively better execution than asteria because your flip strongly suggests asteria's alignment, and we don't risk killing a possible tpr

Wheres your asteria vote then?

[DkKoba]

how does anya and i even remotely make sense

[DkKoba]

anya has made it very clear they will only lim me - yes, they're basically confirmed scum here to me but like ?

[DkKoba]

I still think asteria and Lemons as the scum PRs though.
You have to remember, Scum know how many guns they have. Before Clidd claimed, and before Lemons claimed we have 3 PRs (1 being dead). With just 2 alive PRs I think it would have been harder for them to lim in this so Lemons adding to the mix only makes sense to claim back to the PRs.
Not to mention, if Clidd is town here, they know town have another PR with a gun and most likely want to try and draw this out.

If we lim a town, Town Dk always hits scum if not blocked. However, the doctor may just cover one of the PRs in hope of killing DK there.
I still think a lim on a PR basically VT now is better.

Lemons scum means that Pooky isn't cleared (To clarify before I get some dumb question to why, the checks would have been No gun and not killed as Lemons would be scum. So Pooky

COULD

be a traitor or Doc).
I don't think Pooky will ever be scum here though, but this needs to be said.

The pool for asteria has to be Anya / Osuka / Andre. Outside of this is a scum claim.

If both Dk and asteria ever claim RB then asteria is always lying. RB only exists on a DK town. Andante proved this by getting a result.

Concerning Clidd, he reads the game carefully. It's just makes no sense to claim a PR here when we are already focused there due to Lemons.
I'm most confident that Lemons and Clidd are not a pair. I also don't think asteria and Clidd are ever an acceptable paring here.

This leaves
Lemons + asteria - From how both claims were given, it's high plausible. This would mean that we have a

Gunsmith / 1shot detective / Weak Vig to scums Doc / Traitor / Role blocker.

Lemons + Dk - This is the only pair I can see outside of the pairing from voting. Reason being that neither of these are being voted, but both led the voting. Setup would be

Gunsmith / Non con Neo / 1 Shot detective vs Traitor + Rolecop + Doc

asteria + Dk - This just doesn't make sense for 2 scum to fake claim so early with at least 1 knowing the amount of guns they have, and the other having an idea or also knowing. Setup will be

Gunsmith / 1 shot detective / N2 Rolecop vs Doc / Traitor / Goon(?)

Clidd + Dk - This is the opposite pairing to voting. It's plausible. Setup would be

Gunsmith / Non con Neo / N2 Rolecop vs Doc / traitor / Goon (?)

Dk scum resolves the though of a RB. I haven't seen any evidence to scum having any powers outside of the above.
Option 1 does seem weak for town, and this is what splits my thought. If the mod is in favour of a scum sided game I think this one is the one.
Option 2 is highly town sided, I don't really like this one as much.
Option 3 looks more balanced, but I favour this the least out of the 4.
Option 4 is again town sided. This would be my second option.

As a whole Dk feels like the right option here as they are linked 3 of 4 to be scum.


Clidd - thinks scum is Asteria and Lemons - Voting Asteria
Dk - thinks scum is Lemons and asteria - Voting asteria
asteria - Thinks scum is Dk and Clidd - Voting Clidd
Lemons - Thinks scum is Dk and Clidd - Voting Clidd

A note to take.
I recently finished a game with Clidd where a N1 detective was in the game. This game also had a Gunsmith but not a Vig (Pooky was also in this game). It could simply be a role taken from that game for a fake claim.
But that said, I think Clidd would know that this could be considered as suspicious and he knows I like to refer to previous games for reasoning.
I haven't felt the effort I did from Clidd yet, but benefit of the doubt here it's still early days on a replace in.

@Lemons / Dk / asteria / Clidd

Can you list in order your views on scum to town within the VTs? (Me, Pooky, Anya, Osuka, Andre) I'm not looking for reasons (at least at this point).

@Pooky / Anya / Osuka / Andre

Can you confirm your 2 favoured scum PRs?

I know some of this information is already out there, but I want an updated view, and something I can put into one place.

Anya>Andres>VFP>Osuka>Pooky

[DkKoba]

ok so i just won a town game with anya in it - lowkey my read on anya has been flipping in it because of it, and i lean town on her here based off it now, even though her push on me is bad.

anya has made it very clear they will only lim me - yes, they're basically confirmed scum here to me but like ?

funny how that works

dkkoba was fine calling me town earlier but when i kept persisting in calling them wolf i'm now "confirmed scum" to them

this is an impostor caught venting

its amazing its almost like my read on you can evolve because you are stagnant and refuse to move because you dont wanna lose your safe town lim it seems moreso than just a bad town tunnel

[DkKoba]

whatever

[DkKoba]

also if Lemons flips as something like scum rolecop then we know we dont have a scum roleblocker and koba is guranteed lying

why cant combined roles exist? lmao?

[DkKoba]

but fine. i think asteria is roleblocker still.

VOTE: lemon

[DkKoba]

i chuckled - but you're still scummy here

[DkKoba]

uhhh lol \

how much time is left

[DkKoba]

ok idk how that quoted

[DkKoba]

i dont like the sense of apathy in this thread

[DkKoba]

i'd much rather get asteria first but we can go lemons too

[DkKoba]

i dont like the sense of apathy in this thread

What do you mean?

it just doesn't feel .. active I guess??

i dont feel as motivated mainly because of the lack of control i have here - i feel like if i make one wrong move its a loss and i wanna be 100% sure on something and not be able to get set up here.

im pensive about the wagon wanting to go towards you because i tr you out of all PR claims. I'll fight to my last breathe but i already know some eager townie is gonna insta vote me and we lose.

[DkKoba]

Or a contrary consensus advocating my elimination for information (if people want a more difficult game mode).

ok i kinda laughed at this, cuz like i relate its like "u want to make this game hard? lim me then"

[DkKoba]

ngl im actually thinking lemons/clidd are t/t and this is the weakest town pr pool ive ever played in

clidd is town but not lemon

[DkKoba]

but if we're in a Koba/Asteria scum world then this is like the most scum-sided setup of all time

then again DADDYTISI is the most scumsided mod of all time so might be true

How he got this past Mastina though is mystery

mastina hates scum i can confirm i argued with her about a setup with 2728473 town prs being extra townsided i think and she let that through. Town managed to lose tho cuz bad :3

[DkKoba]

also i can moan and cry about game imbalance if this is the weakest town pool i've ever played in if we lose to koba/asteria

loooool my mood when brass made a mod error in mini normal Baseball and i said "if anya is scum this is mod fault we lose"

[DkKoba]

i rly think asteria is best flip bc roleblocker read but like since i do tr clidd i think lemon is best

[DkKoba]

pooky do you think I fakeclaim claim vig d1 in a setup like this with the risk that I'll get ccd ??

[DkKoba]

Anya u still stuck on me?

[DkKoba]

best over clidd* sorry didnt finish the thought.

[DkKoba]

pooky do you think I fakeclaim claim vig d1 in a setup like this with the risk that I'll get ccd ??

vig wouldnt cc you, vig would just shoot you

informed about doc ? No
Its the reason i didnt wanna claim.

[DkKoba]

just brutally murder me at night if you're wolf i've already lost too many chips this game

i still don't see how that turnaround from you can come from town
i thought you were suspicious for a time in that brass game as well but you still thought i was town during it

and then there's that weird vfp and you were both healed theory from 2 days ago....

I just might murder you if we flip the roleblocker today.

[DkKoba]

maybe wolves have realised they have to do some bussing at this point and that's why dkkoba is gunning for lemons

U know i thought u would try to pin clidd as partner here but damn, lemons?

[DkKoba]

Are u sure theres 2 scum in pr claims pooky

[DkKoba]

im baiting anya into hammering clidd to scumfirm her

[DkKoba]

I think it does fine with the dayplay cuz i think the informed info is extremely strong

[DkKoba]

I think this kind of focus on mechs is like - what leads to scum getting an advantage. In my first normal the setup was 3 masons, one of which was a tracker, and that was it for town. While scum had a JOAT which included a pt cop and were literally informed of the masons

[DkKoba]

u have literally just tunneled me all of this day and have been static and fmpov that pretty much scumfirms you

[DkKoba]

what the actual fuck

[DkKoba]

Pooky unvotes and now scum see their opening smh

[DkKoba]

r you two just trolling me now

when did anya get a quadruple vote

Im town

[DkKoba]

ill be honest the only way this game state makes sense is if koba is VT and fake claimed vig to troll me

Funny you mention that .. im actually...

[DkKoba]

trolling pooky

[DkKoba]

fr tho pooky - either you trust me today or you don't ever like from my pov lemon is blatant scum here and is just trying to patiently wait out and hope clidd is limmed. Please see that.

the scum partner/s are prob fake TRing clidd here so he cant get more votes

[DkKoba]

How the fuck is my read on you TMI?

[DkKoba]

Its basic logic that scum aren't gonna come in and claim a role to direct cause a cc

[DkKoba]

my pov ur claim is town

[DkKoba]

Lemon is trying a lot and, if he's scum, I'm fine losing to good scumplay.

effort =/= towniness

[DkKoba]

i want to vote clidd but i dont know what the vote count is at and i dont wanna hammer, so as soon as i see a new vc from

daddy

datisi ill vote that slot, but i'd be equally happy with an asteria flashtrain

Do you have any sort of actual stance or are you just hammersitting?

[DkKoba]

That said, this is the vote that makes more sense to me:

VOTE: Asteria

I still have doubts about Dk, but Asteria appears in both solve scenarios, so I imagine that the % of hitting scum is higher on her than Lemon or Dk.

pedit: I mean, you ignored the possibility of wifom and any other explanation for scum!clidd/scum!salsa.

i dont think scum you makes such a silly move considering town!me pov up until the claims there was a guarantee of getting me here you know that right?

[DkKoba]

If you're town, sure, you did quite well in keeping your read correct, but I do think that maybe you would be more inclined to reevaluate from a town pov.

Not saying that you're scum, but I’m trying to understand if there was some tmi involved.

its like 90% based on the nature of your claim and occam's razor around it - i dont want to tinfoil stupid shit when I dont have to, its a weakness of mine im trying to stop. understanding your town meta here to a degree helps + that you were not scumreading me (which does appeal to my ego) helps

[DkKoba]

VOTE: Asteria

[DkKoba]

Regardless, I believe that Asteria is the right call, although there is a political argument that the slot should be left alive (that I'm not a fan, as I don't think that she'll die).

It’s not a political argument. It’s a mechanical one.

Btw, if Asteria flips Town, I’m going to hard push this slot to be executed immediately.

oh just like when we left vp baltar alive till lylo and they fake guiltied me lol

[DkKoba]

what the fuck

[DkKoba]

it has to be lemon/clidd

VOTE: lemon
I know i normally dont advocate for town to instavote but this is basically confirmed fmpov

[DkKoba]

Also that quickhammer was so scummy

[DkKoba]

im mad that i got duped by clidd. This is kinda ridiculous

[DkKoba]

"i wont vote a confscum from my pov bc im totally town look at me aha"

[DkKoba]

if i were scum i would kill pooky there, its a better choice in all cases bc pooky is very active and pushes gamestate forward.

but overall i would kill in pooky/vfp

[DkKoba]

look, theres a roleblocker in one of these 2.

if roleblocker flips at all, im basically clear and we can win this game.

[DkKoba]

anya and lemons coordinated a quickhammer its pretty blatant.

[DkKoba]

Save The Dragons [7]:

Andresvmb

,

DkKoba

,

PookyTheMagicalBear

,

T3

,

Salsabil Faria

,

Asteria

,

Anya

[HAMMER]

T3 [6]:

clidd

,

InsidiousLemons

,

Andante

,

Anya

,

T3

,

DkKoba

[HAMMER]

Asteria [5]:

clidd

,

DkKoba

,

VFP

,

Anya

,

InsidiousLemons

[HAMMER]

Orange PR maybe scum / Yellow VT maybe scum

Anya could actually be the traitor here. Maybe bulletproof? Claiming vig, then claiming roleblocked tells scum who they are.
This would mean that Anya did the job of a traitor and helped with every mis lim.

There's also no way that the Dragon lim was all town.
Keep in mind Dk was the counter to Dragons wagon.

So any of the teams below.

Clidd / Dk / Anya
Clidd / Dk / Osuka
Clidd / Dk / Andre
Dk / Lemons / Anya
Dk / Lemons / Osuka
Dk / Lemons / Andre

Clidd / Lemons / Anya
Clidd / Lemons / Osuka
Clidd / Lemons / Andre

With Dk being scum here (I still don't think Clidd and Lemons make sense as scum) it rules out to 6 outcomes.

Since there's more town in the VT's than the PRs I just want to here their top 3 favoured teams.

wrong. im town

[DkKoba]

Me being the ''leading player'' on both town wagons spews me as town, by the way.

wrong

[DkKoba]

jinx

[DkKoba]

[DkKoba]

I like this post. Both Anya and PawnsGambit are on my FOS list (for now) because of the filler posts instead of scum-hunting. But I think I'll go with PawnsGambit first.

Also had Anya as scum without reason or attempt to push

Scumread: Anya, PawnsGambit

Left: VFP > Anya.

Never really pushed Anya scum or addresses Anya scum but has Anya as scum... But always the second scum when pushing someone.
I don't see Salsa/Clidd scum with Osuka or Andre though. So Clidd scum should always be Anya.

I just don't see how scum Lemons doesn't kill me? Even more so with my last post, standardly I always push Lemons here today for a lim. Scum want to win today so that's just odd to me. With me voting and the other 2 PR claims having to accept Lemons as scum by default, it takes 1 of the VT's to just follow suit and lim.

I think % wise we hit the right target more than not on Dk and this is our favour lim to winning.

I'm going to end up getting stressed with this in game day, so instead of staying up all night and making tomorrow a shit day at work I'm going to ignore posting here until the weekend.

dude just trust me. do u think scum are expecting town to be voting anyone but me here today? no.

but we can avoid that loss if u vote lemon first bc they are scum here and proven but their quickhammer onto asteria.

[DkKoba]

Anyways,

VOTE: Dkkoba

classic scum vote

[DkKoba]

Sup

[DkKoba]

doomed scum slot into perfect win

[DkKoba]

lemons vfp clidd asteria and andante played their townie hearts out and we should have won this if we had just ignored the mech and that mistake was ours to make

the nrg exists solely to troll the players

You had crayons d1!!! yet somehow people left a vig claim alive that never shot.... lmao that is the only thing that really gets me here, the rest? yeah rip...

Teehee

[DkKoba]

Vig claim was a huge gambit bc we believed a real vig existed but yeah.

[DkKoba]

I told datisi i was gonna respond to my prod by claiming mafia and then andres voted lemon

[DkKoba]

actual town koba would tell town to focus on dayplay and ignore mechs

[DkKoba]

not my fault yall didn't lim me 3 days straight smh

[DkKoba]

setups fault*

[DkKoba]

I dont think anyone can blame the setup for limming Asteria->Lemons back to back over me

[DkKoba]

it wasnt even a gambit

making three mafia doctors means there shouldnt be a vig

We werent multitasking

[DkKoba]

the claim gambit was a clever one, i'll give you that, but even you have to admit it wouldn't have paid off if not for the setup

I knew i get ccd by endgame.

[DkKoba]

Re:balance
I think its hard to argue how scumsided the setup is when town avoided limming someone openly playing pro scum gets to stay alive LOL

[DkKoba]

Well at least I was right about Osuka

I'm still really surprised Clidd wasn't actually scum, sorry for pushing you so hard!

Curious why we were informed of a mafia doc if there wasn't actually a killing role? Was it just to confuse?

. The execution of Asteria was ridiculous.

I tried so hard

Thank you Datisi for modding!

Role cop sees doc - confirmed guilty.

[DkKoba]

but if someone didnt claim doc and someone is rolecoped what do u do

[DkKoba]

i mean also i lived for 3 days for no reason lol

[DkKoba]

i also TMI that there are multiple docs bc of how i fake reacted to no extra deaths/being alive on d2.

[DkKoba]

also if theres a town doctor they clain daystart a'la miller lol

But also like i said before, this was a run that was a rogue variable bc the worst case scenario for a lot of things happened at once. If i was limmed d2/d3 my team would have struggled a lot more. We were forced to kill the GS and the Napolitan and the rolecop was a threat we didnt know how many shots they might have.

[DkKoba]

yeah this game was 1000% solvable via dayplay lol

[DkKoba]

osuka was spewed scum upon my flip and anya could have been cased as TMIing me scum

[DkKoba]

Well, it happens, gg.

sorry, maybe we will win as same alignment someday