DEFCON Mafia 5.0: GAME OVER - NEW AMERICA FORMED

[Et Al]

I wasn't looking for crumbs either. It was very obvious.

-S

[Koto]

Secondly no one was saying they should die in that way. I was saying I was policying them out of the game. Killing them IN THE GAME.

Oh, I misunderstood that. There were

multiple

people who instead of doing constructive criticism did just... harsh criticism.
I said what I wanted to say to the topic. If you want to forget it, I am fine with it. If you want to dig deeper in it, I am fine with it, but I will dig too.

I really want to know what compelled you to use ableist language when no one else used that language. Like where do you think any player in this game said things like that.

I am not native in English, in my language retarded is a sever offence of one's intellect, and I assumed that it has the same meaning in English. No one said it, but I found that it describes the tone how people talked to Mognet well.

[marry]

i have better reasoning for voting robert than i do nexus

VOTE: robert hunter

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Okay well either way I am just saying a crumb is not sufficient for me to be okay not killing someone with Robert's post history

[marry]

I am not native in English, in my language r-word is a sever offence of one's intellect, and I assumed that it has the same meaning in English. No one said it, but I found that it describes the tone how people talked to Mognet well.

it's a pretty severe insult targeted at people with disabilities so it's a big no-no, just don't use it again

[marry]

really loving lady's pocket right now. found some candy in here, an old receipt, and some lint

[SirCakez]

Votecount 2.4

VFP (5) - Bell, gorilla, The Entity, Nexus, samantha97
Nexus (5) - Titus, joqiza, T3, DeasVail, Cephrir
Mognet (3) - Save The Dragons, The Church of Skitter, Vaxkiller
marry (2) - VFP, Robert M Hunter
Robert M Hunter (2) - Lady Lambdadelta, marry
Titus (1) - Mognet

Not Voting [4] - Koto, DeathNote, Et Al, Toogeloo

(expired on 2021-05-22 17:52:00) remain until day end

With 22 players alive, it takes 12 to reach a majority.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Secondly no one was saying they should die in that way. I was saying I was policying them out of the game. Killing them IN THE GAME.

Oh, I misunderstood that. There were

multiple

people who instead of doing constructive criticism did just... harsh criticism.
I said what I wanted to say to the topic. If you want to forget it, I am fine with it. If you want to dig deeper in it, I am fine with it, but I will dig too.

I really want to know what compelled you to use ableist language when no one else used that language. Like where do you think any player in this game said things like that.

I am not native in English, in my language retarded is a sever offence of one's intellect, and I assumed that it has the same meaning in English. No one said it, but I found that it describes the tone how people talked to Mognet well.

Yeah you can't say that at all in English.

Also, you have ti understand the difference between saying someone is havibg bad ideas and being wrong and being overconfident about their wrong ideas

And suggesting someone has a disability.

Huge huge difference. Like. It is one thing to argue someone is being wrong or not okay in a game. It's quite another to interpret that or imply someone... Honestly there is a lot to unpack in that reading.

Like first of all associating it with a disability

Second kf all associating disability to lack of intelligence....

Like it is just... A lot.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like just don't do that. Okay?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I wasn't looking for crumbs either. It was very obvious.

-S

If it is that obvious, show me then.

At this point you have put it in the open so it is only bad for town to not discuss it at this point.

[Nexus]

her main utility to scum was served by confirming to them that there was no town eavesdropper.

Let's just say I am the town mirror version of this kind of thinking.

Whatever this means, I assume, is the crumb

[Et Al]

Yes.

And iirc at least a few people said that it was obvious.

-S

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I wasn't looking for crumbs either. It was very obvious.

-S

If it is that obvious, show me then.

At this point you have put it in the open so it is only bad for town to not discuss it at this point.

her main utility to scum was served by confirming to them that there was no town eavesdropper.

Let's just say I am the town mirror version of this kind of thinking.

Whatever this means, I assume, is the crumb

... SO HE JUST CLAIMED HE HAS A ROLE THAT IS GOOD FOR SCUM

WHICH WILL BECOME OBVIOUS WHEN HE DOESNT HAVE A NUKE

HOW IS THIS CLAIM WORTH SPAREING WHAT THE FUCK

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Him claiming it doesn't make him more townier it makes him NAI for that.

[marry]

my issue is he claimed and didn't work at all to figure out how to deliver the information or... do anything with it other than say he has it

[Nexus]

RMH is an alt rather than a noob, so it's possible it's faked.

[Nexus]

Like, the "idk what to do" idea seems fake rather than real idk.

[Koto]

Spoiler:

Secondly no one was saying they should die in that way. I was saying I was policying them out of the game. Killing them IN THE GAME.

Oh, I misunderstood that. There were

multiple

people who instead of doing constructive criticism did just... harsh criticism.
I said what I wanted to say to the topic. If you want to forget it, I am fine with it. If you want to dig deeper in it, I am fine with it, but I will dig too.

I really want to know what compelled you to use ableist language when no one else used that language. Like where do you think any player in this game said things like that.

I am not native in English, in my language retarded is a sever offence of one's intellect, and I assumed that it has the same meaning in English. No one said it, but I found that it describes the tone how people talked to Mognet well.

Yeah you can't say that at all in English.

Also, you have ti understand the difference between saying someone is havibg bad ideas and being wrong and being overconfident about their wrong ideas

And suggesting someone has a disability.

Huge huge difference. Like. It is one thing to argue someone is being wrong or not okay in a game. It's quite another to interpret that or imply someone... Honestly there is a lot to unpack in that reading.

Like first of all associating it with a disability

Second kf all associating disability to lack of intelligence....

Like it is just... A lot.

I think our wavelength absolutely miss here.
Retarded people are people with very low intellect, they can't write, they simply don't have enough intelligence to learn that. It is literally impossible that anyone here is retarded.
If in my country we call someone retarded, we don't mean that he is retarded, but:
1) show that he though

very

little before doing certain actions (hyperbole; Metonymy: low intellect -> people who do actions which seems very illogical)
2) to simply offend him (onomatopoeia: "r" is a sound which helps relieve stress, retarded has two Rs; Synecdoche: you offend person by offending part of given person)

[marry]

@Koto stop using the word.

[marry]

lots of people who you don't qualify as "disabled enough" have been tormented over history with that word and it's very offensive. stop arguing why you used it and move on.

[Cephrir]

i read robert's stuff around his role as town having no idea how to play their role. i think he is claiming Counterintelligence, and i have trouble imagining scum with that role making the posts he's made. i am not locktowning it by any means but that's why i'm not looking to vote there at this moment. on the other hand, that role would be no great loss, so i will not object strenuously if we go there.

[Vaxkiller]

@robert

VOTE: Vaxkiller

I want to hammer.

What made you go from voting me to wanting to hammer mastina, who I started a wagon on? There is nothing between those 2 posts.

[Titus]

I'll need to look at Robert but I have no opposition to voting him here.

It's a shame Mog subbed out rather than chilled out and listened.

[Titus]

lots of people who you don't qualify as "disabled enough" have been tormented over history with that word and it's very offensive. stop arguing why you used it and move on.

+1

[The Church of Skitter]

Spoiler:

Secondly no one was saying they should die in that way. I was saying I was policying them out of the game. Killing them IN THE GAME.

Oh, I misunderstood that. There were

multiple

people who instead of doing constructive criticism did just... harsh criticism.
I said what I wanted to say to the topic. If you want to forget it, I am fine with it. If you want to dig deeper in it, I am fine with it, but I will dig too.

I really want to know what compelled you to use ableist language when no one else used that language. Like where do you think any player in this game said things like that.

I am not native in English, in my language retarded is a sever offence of one's intellect, and I assumed that it has the same meaning in English. No one said it, but I found that it describes the tone how people talked to Mognet well.

Yeah you can't say that at all in English.

Also, you have ti understand the difference between saying someone is havibg bad ideas and being wrong and being overconfident about their wrong ideas

And suggesting someone has a disability.

Huge huge difference. Like. It is one thing to argue someone is being wrong or not okay in a game. It's quite another to interpret that or imply someone... Honestly there is a lot to unpack in that reading.

Like first of all associating it with a disability

Second kf all associating disability to lack of intelligence....

Like it is just... A lot.

I think our wavelength absolutely miss here.
Retarded people are people with very low intellect, they can't write, they simply don't have enough intelligence to learn that. It is literally impossible that anyone here is retarded.
If in my country we call someone retarded, we don't mean that he is retarded, but:
1) show that he though

very

little before doing certain actions (hyperbole; Metonymy: low intellect -> people who do actions which seems very illogical)
2) to simply offend him (onomatopoeia: "r" is a sound which helps relieve stress, retarded has two Rs; Synecdoche: you offend person by offending part of given person)

Shut up
Actually just shut the fuck up
Stop trying to justify it it's not okay.