DEFCON Mafia 5.0: GAME OVER - NEW AMERICA FORMED

[Koto]

Hello fellow commanders.
I am the new leader of Washington facility. Hopefully, the last one.
Any urgent matters?

[Koto]

I don't scumread joqizahim but mognet picking at someone for hedging is a perfectly fine method of reading and his overall play is very town motivated

This take is extremely surface level dude.
First off its not a fine method of reading it straight up isn't something that scum actually does and the logic behind it is ass. His play is town motivated if you aren't reading the game closely and you just see his posts on a glance and go "oh ya this is town ig" but to me it reads like he's doing everything to look town. I think his stance on total war comes from scum who wants to stand out in a playerlist where everyone just wants to get to the nukes. I think he's being anti-total war because if ur scum in this pl and you try to hard to actually want to play mafia, you're probably going to get townread by a bunch of people who just want to get to the nukes as quickly as possible. This also allows him to establish a platform or a "bloc" that he can invade to make sure he doesn't get nuked later. It's like the entire theme of his play.

Oh and also joq is probably town which means its more likely for the dude to be scum.

If I read his playstyle correctly, Mognet as scum will slip.
That playstyle is almost unsustainable for scum.

[Koto]

I don't scumread joqizahim but mognet picking at someone for hedging is a perfectly fine method of reading and his overall play is very town motivated

This take is extremely surface level dude.
First off its not a fine method of reading it straight up isn't something that scum actually does and the logic behind it is ass. His play is town motivated if you aren't reading the game closely and you just see his posts on a glance and go "oh ya this is town ig" but to me it reads like he's doing everything to look town. I think his stance on total war comes from scum who wants to stand out in a playerlist where everyone just wants to get to the nukes. I think he's being anti-total war because if ur scum in this pl and you try to hard to actually want to play mafia, you're probably going to get townread by a bunch of people who just want to get to the nukes as quickly as possible. This also allows him to establish a platform or a "bloc" that he can invade to make sure he doesn't get nuked later. It's like the entire theme of his play.

Oh and also joq is probably town which means its more likely for the dude to be scum.

If I read his playstyle correctly, Mognet as scum will slip.
That playstyle is almost unsustainable for scum.

To be fair, the playstyle I use as scum is hard to maintain unless experienced. I am a feared scum player though. I am not scum but I wouldn’t treat someone you don’t know as incapable of doing things.

That being said I think Kupo town told.

Please, tell me that you are not Farkran.

[Koto]

Good morning, fellow commanders!
Any news?

[Koto]

S stands for Something_Smart?

[Koto]

If samantha wasn't locktown already she's locktown now.

RMH, unless you have a direct guilty by Espionage or Fighter don't out. Although you've basically softed that you're a PR that's useless in town hands.

Lockdown.

[Koto]

VOTE: nexus

Spoiler:

I just learned Town of Salem is a thing (mafia game that is an actual video game) and have been nolifing it

Spoiler:

It's dead. It used to be fun, you could get high ELO and play with people with brains. Now there are few people, so you get matched with these, who can't even read.

[Koto]

Why is mognet scum?

[Koto]

have you read the game koto, any thoughts?

Yay, so nice to see that at least someone didn't forget that I am here! Hello!
I didn't read the game, and probably won't, I usually scumhunt with interactions. That being said, I don't have many notes yet.

[Koto]

Spoiler: quotes

eavesdropper here guys. mafia said they like big butts? not really sure what to make of this, would really appreciate some help. more at 11.

This is the first reference to Marry pretending to be eavesdropper.

This is during the time Mastina was picking up votes based on the VC.
What is the scum purpose of this?
I agree just because they claimed they aren’t town. They’re town because of Mastina’s flip and no scum benefit

eavesdropper here guys. mafia said they like big butts? not really sure what to make of this, would really appreciate some help. more at 11.

eavesdropper here guys. mafia said they like big butts? not really sure what to make of this, would really appreciate some help. more at 11.

okay since you claimed, i am now going to be forcing you to post

publicly

everything you receive

so any message you receive, I want to be able to see it here. No mod communication signs just. rewrite it word for word

i hate to tell you this so early into our new friendship but it was a joke and i will claim when it is time to... this goes without saying but dont interact with my post seriously i dont wanna fish i just was breaking tension

Marry was joking about being Eavesdropper. NAI. Can be town doing it, thinking it's funny, can be scum doing it, thinking it's funny.

[Koto]

if she flips scum i commit seppuku

Why again is marry town?

[Koto]

Die. Leave. I don't care. I just want you gone.

[Koto]

[PUBLIC LEAK] PookyTheMagicalBear

Did we ever talk about what this is

No.
But it is the terrorist using the media leak system to give as a mockery.

[Koto]

About Mognet.
He was doing his best to produce reads. He could have been doing it because he wanted to help town, or because he wanted to be townreaded. I believe that the first is correct, because I think as scum he wouldn't do so controversial reads.

[Koto]

About replacement.
There is a difference between telling someone, that he is cocky (or whatever was your problem with him), and that some of his reads are bad/ invalid

versus

saying he is a piece of shit who should die, or quoting his posts and commenting how fucking retarded they are.

You

are retarded pieces of shit. That is not how you should behave to people who are trying to help you.

[Koto]

Secondly no one was saying they should die in that way. I was saying I was policying them out of the game. Killing them IN THE GAME.

Oh, I misunderstood that. There were

multiple

people who instead of doing constructive criticism did just... harsh criticism.
I said what I wanted to say to the topic. If you want to forget it, I am fine with it. If you want to dig deeper in it, I am fine with it, but I will dig too.

[Koto]

Secondly no one was saying they should die in that way. I was saying I was policying them out of the game. Killing them IN THE GAME.

Oh, I misunderstood that. There were

multiple

people who instead of doing constructive criticism did just... harsh criticism.
I said what I wanted to say to the topic. If you want to forget it, I am fine with it. If you want to dig deeper in it, I am fine with it, but I will dig too.

I really want to know what compelled you to use ableist language when no one else used that language. Like where do you think any player in this game said things like that.

I am not native in English, in my language retarded is a sever offence of one's intellect, and I assumed that it has the same meaning in English. No one said it, but I found that it describes the tone how people talked to Mognet well.

[Koto]

Spoiler:

Secondly no one was saying they should die in that way. I was saying I was policying them out of the game. Killing them IN THE GAME.

Oh, I misunderstood that. There were

multiple

people who instead of doing constructive criticism did just... harsh criticism.
I said what I wanted to say to the topic. If you want to forget it, I am fine with it. If you want to dig deeper in it, I am fine with it, but I will dig too.

I really want to know what compelled you to use ableist language when no one else used that language. Like where do you think any player in this game said things like that.

I am not native in English, in my language retarded is a sever offence of one's intellect, and I assumed that it has the same meaning in English. No one said it, but I found that it describes the tone how people talked to Mognet well.

Yeah you can't say that at all in English.

Also, you have ti understand the difference between saying someone is havibg bad ideas and being wrong and being overconfident about their wrong ideas

And suggesting someone has a disability.

Huge huge difference. Like. It is one thing to argue someone is being wrong or not okay in a game. It's quite another to interpret that or imply someone... Honestly there is a lot to unpack in that reading.

Like first of all associating it with a disability

Second kf all associating disability to lack of intelligence....

Like it is just... A lot.

I think our wavelength absolutely miss here.
Retarded people are people with very low intellect, they can't write, they simply don't have enough intelligence to learn that. It is literally impossible that anyone here is retarded.
If in my country we call someone retarded, we don't mean that he is retarded, but:
1) show that he though

very

little before doing certain actions (hyperbole; Metonymy: low intellect -> people who do actions which seems very illogical)
2) to simply offend him (onomatopoeia: "r" is a sound which helps relieve stress, retarded has two Rs; Synecdoche: you offend person by offending part of given person)

[Koto]

lots of people who you don't qualify as "disabled enough" have been tormented over history with that word and it's very offensive.

Can I ask for source? This seems like interesting topic.

[Koto]

Spoiler:

Secondly no one was saying they should die in that way. I was saying I was policying them out of the game. Killing them IN THE GAME.

Oh, I misunderstood that. There were

multiple

people who instead of doing constructive criticism did just... harsh criticism.
I said what I wanted to say to the topic. If you want to forget it, I am fine with it. If you want to dig deeper in it, I am fine with it, but I will dig too.

I really want to know what compelled you to use ableist language when no one else used that language. Like where do you think any player in this game said things like that.

I am not native in English, in my language retarded is a sever offence of one's intellect, and I assumed that it has the same meaning in English. No one said it, but I found that it describes the tone how people talked to Mognet well.

Yeah you can't say that at all in English.

Also, you have ti understand the difference between saying someone is havibg bad ideas and being wrong and being overconfident about their wrong ideas

And suggesting someone has a disability.

Huge huge difference. Like. It is one thing to argue someone is being wrong or not okay in a game. It's quite another to interpret that or imply someone... Honestly there is a lot to unpack in that reading.

Like first of all associating it with a disability

Second kf all associating disability to lack of intelligence....

Like it is just... A lot.

I think our wavelength absolutely miss here.
Retarded people are people with very low intellect, they can't write, they simply don't have enough intelligence to learn that. It is literally impossible that anyone here is retarded.
If in my country we call someone retarded, we don't mean that he is retarded, but:
1) show that he though

very

little before doing certain actions (hyperbole; Metonymy: low intellect -> people who do actions which seems very illogical)
2) to simply offend him (onomatopoeia: "r" is a sound which helps relieve stress, retarded has two Rs; Synecdoche: you offend person by offending part of given person)

Shut up
Actually just shut the fuck up
Stop trying to justify it it's not okay.

Lady Lambdadelta wanted to know why I used the word. I was explaining myself. I was talking with her.