DEFCON Mafia 5.0: GAME OVER - NEW AMERICA FORMED

[The Church of Skitter]

How hard is it to take a fucking hint someone tells you not to do something just don't fucking do it hello????????

[Koto]

lots of people who you don't qualify as "disabled enough" have been tormented over history with that word and it's very offensive.

Can I ask for source? This seems like interesting topic.

[Vaxkiller]

We really do need to fade the mognet/prism slot. Robert is an ok fade, but they post some things that give me hesitation.

Mognet/prism slot MUST be yeeted.

[Koto]

Spoiler:

Secondly no one was saying they should die in that way. I was saying I was policying them out of the game. Killing them IN THE GAME.

Oh, I misunderstood that. There were

multiple

people who instead of doing constructive criticism did just... harsh criticism.
I said what I wanted to say to the topic. If you want to forget it, I am fine with it. If you want to dig deeper in it, I am fine with it, but I will dig too.

I really want to know what compelled you to use ableist language when no one else used that language. Like where do you think any player in this game said things like that.

I am not native in English, in my language retarded is a sever offence of one's intellect, and I assumed that it has the same meaning in English. No one said it, but I found that it describes the tone how people talked to Mognet well.

Yeah you can't say that at all in English.

Also, you have ti understand the difference between saying someone is havibg bad ideas and being wrong and being overconfident about their wrong ideas

And suggesting someone has a disability.

Huge huge difference. Like. It is one thing to argue someone is being wrong or not okay in a game. It's quite another to interpret that or imply someone... Honestly there is a lot to unpack in that reading.

Like first of all associating it with a disability

Second kf all associating disability to lack of intelligence....

Like it is just... A lot.

I think our wavelength absolutely miss here.
Retarded people are people with very low intellect, they can't write, they simply don't have enough intelligence to learn that. It is literally impossible that anyone here is retarded.
If in my country we call someone retarded, we don't mean that he is retarded, but:
1) show that he though

very

little before doing certain actions (hyperbole; Metonymy: low intellect -> people who do actions which seems very illogical)
2) to simply offend him (onomatopoeia: "r" is a sound which helps relieve stress, retarded has two Rs; Synecdoche: you offend person by offending part of given person)

Shut up
Actually just shut the fuck up
Stop trying to justify it it's not okay.

Lady Lambdadelta wanted to know why I used the word. I was explaining myself. I was talking with her.

[The Church of Skitter]

VOTE: Koto

[samantha97]

can we not dogpile yet another person into replacing pls

just move on and refocus

[Cephrir]

im not sure if anywhere is the place for this conversation but here definitely isn't

[Save The Dragons]

koto, do you have any notes you can share

[marry]

robert i know youre online dude what is this information

[Nexus]

can we not dogpile yet another person into replacing pls

just move on and refocus

Why, do you not want your buddy to leave again?

[samantha97]

I don't want anyone to leave

even people with bad taste

[T3]

RMH is town. I don't see him making those posts as scum at this point.

[T3]

Let's just move on from the retard thing, it was in bad taste but we should just play the game.

[marry]

we're moving on, stop saying the word

[SirCakez]

Stop talking about the r-word. It is offensive and this is not up for debate, nor is it game relevant.

[marry]

can we get a vote count, mr cake

[VFP]

Robert crumbed (A bit more than a crumb I guess) as a tracker in my last game.
They flipped VT.

I could see scum Robert using this tactic just as much as town though.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

RMH is town. I don't see him making those posts as scum at this point.

why are people voting this slot again?

Like we never vote this slot unless RMH flips scum and even then it's less likely.

All T3 voters should be on RMH right now.

[DeasVail]

i read robert's stuff around his role as town having no idea how to play their role. i think he is claiming Counterintelligence, and i have trouble imagining scum with that role making the posts he's made. i am not locktowning it by any means but that's why i'm not looking to vote there at this moment. on the other hand, that role would be no great loss, so i will not object strenuously if we go there.

This but I object slightly more because I think Robert's town and I don't like eliminating town?

[DeasVail]

VOTE: Nexus

Why?

Out of the wagons going right now, Nexus feels the most likely to flip scum. While the others have points in their favour that I feel make them town, Nexus has just been... there. I don't confidently believe him to be scum, but it's the sort of situation where I feel like that's possible, whereas I am less convinced by the other wagons.
I would consider a VFP vote maybe though.

[gorilla]

As a general announcement: in the future if you believe someone is acting inappropriately toward another player, please just report the posts and move on. Thanks.

[SirCakez]

can we get a vote count, mr cake

Votecount 2.5

VFP (5) - Bell, gorilla, The Entity, Nexus, samantha97
Nexus (5) - Titus, joqiza, T3, DeasVail, Cephrir
Mognet (2) - Save The Dragons, Vaxkiller
marry (2) - VFP, Robert M Hunter
Robert M Hunter (2) - Lady Lambdadelta, marry
Titus (1) - Mognet
Koto (1) - The Church of Skitter

Not Voting [4] - Koto, DeathNote, Et Al, Toogeloo

(expired on 2021-05-22 17:52:00) remain until day end

With 22 players alive, it takes 12 to reach a majority.

[marry]

thank u mr cake

[marry]

11 days until hammer guys <3

[Bell]

*pokes LLD*