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Post Post #4025 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:59 am

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Mailman with enabler alive in this setup is basically a Godfather. After Rathe died we should've forced out the mailman claim so Anya could TA it, I suppose it what was meant to happen.
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Post Post #4026 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:08 am

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In post 4025, OutWorldER wrote:Mailman with enabler alive in this setup is basically a Godfather. After Rathe died we should've forced out the mailman claim so Anya could TA it, I suppose it what was meant to happen.
well yes that was intended

otherwise it's a thing y'all could've done, but not like you knew there was a TA
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Post Post #4027 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:09 am

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Gypyx alerted me that the game ended! Life still has me headlocked, sadly.

Thank you all so much for playing, and thank you Gypyx for taking over so competently!
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Post Post #4028 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:11 am

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btw you dropped the perfect amount of flavor images, used them all lol
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Post Post #4029 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:06 am

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Ico is pretty good at this game, also I'm amazed we lasted this long
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Post Post #4030 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:56 am

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Figured that would work out. Vote Count stuff pretty heavily tied Umulat and myself to OW (who I was actually setting up as an innocent claim from me with a few roles I had been kicking around, Anya claim pretty much ended that though as only option was I neighborized him N2). Impulsiveness of town really hurt them, especially the confusing hammer from Anya D2 who as a macho modifier never should be randomly hammering without a claim. That ended up meaning she was going D3 and at that point then as long as town didnt catch onto balance issues it was more of an "if not when" for scum winning.
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Post Post #4031 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:57 am

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good job wolves
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Post Post #4032 (ISO) » Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:11 am

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so iconeum was mafia
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Post Post #4033 (ISO) » Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:12 am

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u did well then i thought u were town all the way
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Post Post #4034 (ISO) » Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:13 am

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y was i mailman enabler with mafia mailman
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Post Post #4035 (ISO) » Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:13 am

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what is the strategy for town
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Post Post #4036 (ISO) » Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:47 am

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In post 4034, Rathe wrote:y was i mailman enabler with mafia mailman
you were a godfather enabler basically
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Post Post #4037 (ISO) » Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:02 am

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Yeah it not any type of "bastard role" because its not lying to the players in any way. Closer to bastard would be you being a Mailman Enabler but there is no Mailman, or if you include Macho XXX and there is no protective role because while not lying to the player, you heavily are implying something to the player that is false.

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Post Post #4038 (ISO) » Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:29 am

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I honestly can't handle hyperposting games and end up zoning out and not doing anything, and that's when I'm town.
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Post Post #4039 (ISO) » Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:35 am

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I think the bigger reason people treated the mailman as town was because Godfather was made explicitly non-normal years ago so why would a GF-equal be allowed.

I'm curious to see the review thread for this setup.
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Post Post #4040 (ISO) » Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:37 am

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GF was made not normal because people expect cop results to be reliable, I'm not sure why people expected a mailman to automatically mean town
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Post Post #4041 (ISO) » Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:01 pm

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In post 4039, OutWorldER wrote:I think the bigger reason people treated the mailman as town was because Godfather was made explicitly non-normal years ago so why would a GF-equal be allowed.
I don't even think it's really a GF-equal? A Mafia Mailman still investigates as a positive to the Traffic Analyst, they just have an excuse (and in this game Icon didn't even have that, he could have been ID'd by Anya as early as Night 1 since we offed the Enabler). It's not nearly as strongly GF-analogous as, say, a Mafia Doctor vs. a Gunsmith, which is certainly considered normal.

I actually think it's good and healthy for normal setups to play with meta assumptions. A lot of the town made a bad assumption here.
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Post Post #4042 (ISO) » Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:15 pm

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In post 4038, Umlaut wrote:I honestly can't handle hyperposting games and end up zoning out and not doing anything, and that's when I'm town.
Same was true for me here. Starting around D2 I started more skimming things and D3 I almost stopped reading entirely. I actually would rather read a few walls than essentially 100 text messages. Maybe im just old now.
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Post Post #4043 (ISO) » Fri May 07, 2021 11:26 pm

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One single mailman with town mailman enabler is an equivalent to friendly neighbour. It is fine if town doesn't need to brutally execute given mailman to win. Otherwise, it borders with bastard mechanic. Which is alright, as long as it isn't a normal game.

Mafia didn't have roleblocker, rolestopper, nor strongman, that gave away the fact that any town investigative is likely to be macho.
Town had millers, mafia had godfather, that furthermore weakened the traffic analyst, basically leaving town with just 1.5 doctors. Very good case scenario is one extra mis-brutal execute from doctors and one guilty from traffic. Versus mafia friendly neighbour.
+ doctors could CC each other
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Post Post #4044 (ISO) » Wed May 12, 2021 2:26 pm

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I'm having trouble understanding the criticisms.
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