Mini 2206 - Deja Vu: Perpetual MELO IV - END!

[Infinity 324]

its not just VFT tho Kismet agrees and kismet is very obviously town

So is prism though! DC is actually confirmed scum if prism is town fypov

[Infinity 324]

Honestly you don't have to trust me on this but I TR prism more than I TR bork

[SirCakez]

its not just VFT tho Kismet agrees and kismet is very obviously town

So is prism though! DC is actually confirmed scum if prism is town fypov

not if mom is scum because scum probably just couldn't qh in that case

[Infinity 324]

I guess, I sorta feel like she'd at least check the thread once in a while to see if a quickhammer was possible

I also could've kept my vote on DC to make it easier for her

[SirCakez]

what if its like (dc/mom/notsci)

[Infinity 324]

Imo notsci pushes on you harder to avoid a buddy being limmed.

[Infinity 324]

Honestly if there was anything I could do to get people to trust me and vote with me I'd do it but I just don't know what that is.

[Kismet]

Honestly you don't have to trust me on this but I TR prism more than I TR bork

therefore prism is more likely to be right than i am?

[Infinity 324]

I was trying to say that from cakez's POV either prism or DC is scum because of quickhammers, but I guess he disagrees.

I think it's very important to vote with town too because if 2 town are voting wrong we lose anyway. We have to assume that most of the town are voting correctly.

[Venus Fly Trap]

ok i just feel the need to point out that we've had 3 different people within quickhammer range, and i think all for at least 12 hours. so unless we want to posit that the scumteam is exactly mom/dc/prism, i think part of the explanation is that scum is not necessarily being very good at quickhammering this game

~ skitter

[Venus Fly Trap]

No no no

yes yes yes

~ skitter

[Venus Fly Trap]

Skitt should be TRing me now I'm pretty sure, she was all "look at this drop off in activity" and then when I get another burst of activity she doesn't stop to reconsider. Especially when she already reconsidered for a moment when I unvoted DC

With VFT scum mom is almost always town

i mean you've been ignoring my read on someone that you know i'm good at reading in order to push through someone i think is town in lylo, and are now turnign to calling me scum with them
from my pov what am i supposed to be thinking abt u here

~ skitter

[Venus Fly Trap]

Mom also has a townier ISO than DC in a vacuum, the response to the nacho wagon felt like she was by herself against a bunch of scum who all had an agenda to kill nacho.

no

[Venus Fly Trap]

Like I dont understand why people are keen to just not respond to me

I dont understand how cake goes from not wanting to touch NM at all D1 to tunneling the shit out of him D2

I've cased both of them, and even after the NM scum flip no one is willing to entertain my theory?

Can we revisit this later? It's really just you or DC today

and like mom's post to me, in the context of imminently getting wagoned, is, uh, Not Great,so i dont' love that this is your only response to it

~ skitter

[Venus Fly Trap]

not gonna lie this is skeeving me out Infinity

What would help with this? I very strongly believe this game only makes sense with a VFT/DC team,

and my strong preference for DC over mom is mostly a reaction to skitt going the opposite way

. Like you know skitt isn't out of her scumrange here yeah? When the game doesn't make sense you have to look at the strong scum players

idk what the bolded means

[Venus Fly Trap]

Why does scum!me suddenly get a burst of motivation in a very slow game I'm probably going to win anyway? It makes much more sense that I suddenly came to a realization

because if we live in a scum-mom scum-you town-dc universe i'm slowly wrenching away this win ...

[Venus Fly Trap]

Honestly you don't have to trust me on this but I TR prism more than I TR bork

and sicne when is this a thing?

[Infinity 324]

Skitt should be TRing me now I'm pretty sure, she was all "look at this drop off in activity" and then when I get another burst of activity she doesn't stop to reconsider. Especially when she already reconsidered for a moment when I unvoted DC

With VFT scum mom is almost always town

i mean you've been ignoring my read on someone that you know i'm good at reading in order to push through someone i think is town in lylo, and are now turnign to calling me scum with them
from my pov what am i supposed to be thinking abt u here

~ skitter

I'm out of my scumrange, does it matter that I think you're scum with one of your townreads? This is silly

ok i just feel the need to point out that we've had 3 different people within quickhammer range, and i think all for at least 12 hours. so unless we want to posit that the scumteam is exactly mom/dc/prism, i think part of the explanation is that scum is not necessarily being very good at quickhammering this game

~ skitter

I think it's much more likely that at least 1 scum was either voting or voted each time

Like I dont understand why people are keen to just not respond to me

I dont understand how cake goes from not wanting to touch NM at all D1 to tunneling the shit out of him D2

I've cased both of them, and even after the NM scum flip no one is willing to entertain my theory?

Can we revisit this later? It's really just you or DC today

and like mom's post to me, in the context of imminently getting wagoned, is, uh, Not Great,so i dont' love that this is your only response to it

~ skitter

It shows lack of awareness of the gamestate, which if anything is towny. I don't see the scum motivation of trying to go after cakez when that is clearly not happening

not gonna lie this is skeeving me out Infinity

What would help with this? I very strongly believe this game only makes sense with a VFT/DC team,

and my strong preference for DC over mom is mostly a reaction to skitt going the opposite way

. Like you know skitt isn't out of her scumrange here yeah? When the game doesn't make sense you have to look at the strong scum players

idk what the bolded means

I only started being against the mom elim when you started pushing it so strongly

Why does scum!me suddenly get a burst of motivation in a very slow game I'm probably going to win anyway? It makes much more sense that I suddenly came to a realization

because if we live in a scum-mom scum-you town-dc universe i'm slowly wrenching away this win ...

My burst of motivation came before your mom push so ?

[Iverson]

I'm fine going on Momrangal despite Infinity's opposition, if VFT is scum I'm fine with this it's not even good play just overkill because pushing me was a win.

VOTE: Momrangal

Now that I know there's no daytalk I think any idea of quickhammers is stupid because it requires very specific coordination at night w/ the scumteam to appropriately signal to the point where it's not even worth the trouble.

As much as I love putting pine tar on the figurative baseball as scum I think it is incredibly, incredibly obvious that I have been clueless all day re: daytalk.

[Iverson]

My only hesitance here is I think VFT is probably wrong on DC, and today is the best chance of strongarming that vote through, but w/e

[Infinity 324]

This is just like DnC, you're not reading me based on my play but are instead scumreading me because it fits your agenda

Town!skitt doesn't use shallow logic like "you're not listening to me therefore scum" she uses what she knows about me and how I tend to play as both alignments

[Iverson]

Literally VFT goes "I feel really good about Iverson Kismet" and the game is over so idk what VFT would be doing as scum besides trying their hardest to gamethrow

[Infinity 324]

if VFT is scum I'm fine with this it's not even good play just overkill because pushing me was a win.

I'm not sure there was actually support for an elim on you? Maybe early on I would've voted you? Idk

[fferyllt]

and

[Iverson]

if VFT is scum I'm fine with this it's not even good play just overkill because pushing me was a win.

I'm not sure there was actually support for an elim on you? Maybe early on I would've voted you? Idk

Cakez/Kismet were both on me and willing to go on me. Hypothetically the scumteam could be Cakez/DC/VFT but I strongly doubt it.

VFT flipping the read over just letting me happen is one of the moves that might look cool as scum but is throwing away a win that is incredibly obvious, ie. not merely overlooked