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Post Post #181 (isolation #0) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:27 pm

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ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
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Post Post #186 (isolation #1) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:35 pm

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In post 33, Andante wrote:
In post 24, bugspray wrote:VOTE: andante your rvs vibe is off from last time

double pedit wtf
isn't rvs supposed to be different?

Random Voting Stage. If "Random" is always the same, then it would be predictable, and thus not truly random

good response scum

In post 40, bugspray wrote:you're my strongest sr rn so im gonna vote you



pedit what
double pedit slow down this isnt marathon
u never voted = scum
In post 43, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 7, Robert M Hunter wrote:VOTE: Hopkirk who dat
I opened this thread planning to read TWO entire pages in one sitting (side note- wow. let's watch that pace everyone, it's been like half an hour, not four days lol)
Then I saw this post.
I'm going to be honest, it was hurtful. I was hurt. Emotionally. Let's break it down a bit.

- You're saying you don't know who I am. Presumably legit (or feigning ignorance to pretend you haven't been stalking me for years), but still hurtful
- You don't follow up with looking into who I am. Saying you don't know me hurt a bit, but implying you don't care enough to look is incredibly mean and hurtful
- Did I say it was hurtful already? Because it was
- Choosing to use 'who dat' instead of 'who's that' is a pretty casual tone. That makes the hurtful comment feel so much worse since it feels casually dismissive
- At least you're voting me so there's some indication you want to get to know me. Unfortunately that's awful hurtful so wow, this whole post was
messed up


I'm Hopkirk. You'd better remember that name, because if you don't I'll be really sad and you'll feel really guilty about being such a meanie
In post 52, Hopkirk wrote:ou hould top uing the word
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it' very... you know

voting non talker people will only make good happening if many join and we fill them with fear, compared to voting talker people and interacting do result
honestly i dont like ur transition from post 43 to 52. ur playing like me and i dont like it>:(
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Post Post #187 (isolation #2) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:36 pm

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In post 184, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
How many mafia games have you played, grandpa?

this is my first :p
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Post Post #188 (isolation #3) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:36 pm

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In post 182, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
What?

Can you paraphrase what they said?

why do u wanna know? lmao
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Post Post #189 (isolation #4) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:37 pm

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people are going to take me seriously with this new playstyle of mine lmao
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Post Post #191 (isolation #5) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:37 pm

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also @andante hi i missed u in open 809:( too bad i died n1
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Post Post #193 (isolation #6) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:39 pm

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In post 184, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
How many mafia games have you played, grandpa?

also why ask? when you can literally go to my pfp and check my games? also you can look at my status it literally says "i always live up to..." that implies i have played before. i am assuming that you think im new lol
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Post Post #194 (isolation #7) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:41 pm

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In post 192, Loki Dokie wrote:No decent player sr a player for not being a fucking mind reader, so whatever you are, that’s seriously idiotic. No offense but newsflash not getting a joke doesn’t make you scum.
who said u were scum lmfao. calm down dont get offended now, all i said is that i could be joking, whatever happens in that neighbor talking really doesn't signify. you should know that, that was MY enterance... why would i make a claim like that? anyone with common sense can... yea you get the point.
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Post Post #195 (isolation #8) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:42 pm

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In post 194, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 192, Loki Dokie wrote:No decent player sr a player for not being a fucking mind reader, so whatever you are, that’s seriously idiotic. No offense but newsflash not getting a joke doesn’t make you scum.
who said u were scum lmfao. calm down dont get offended now, all i said is that i could be joking, whatever happens in that neighbor talking really doesn't signify. you should know that, that was MY enterance... why would i make a claim like that? anyone with common sense can... yea you get the point.
or were u werent talking to me... if u werent then... well that was awkward :|
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Post Post #203 (isolation #9) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:48 pm

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In post 196, flow trap wrote:
In post 187, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 184, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
How many mafia games have you played, grandpa?

this is my first :p
Can confirm, I've played in his 0 game before

flow.. pls look at what vander said... do you think this is scum lmao
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Post Post #205 (isolation #10) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:49 pm

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In post 202, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 192, Loki Dokie wrote:No decent player sr a player for not being a fucking mind reader, so whatever you are, that’s seriously idiotic. No offense but newsflash not getting a joke doesn’t make you scum.
I'd be pretty careful about who you are calling bad or idiotic given you have failed to understand the "nuance" of something that I would have expected someone with no mafia experience to grasp.
I'm not scum reading you for not reading minds, I thought you were being overly serious regarding what andante was doing and your push on bugspray seems overly strong.

But you might be in luck regarding my vote now because grandpa seems scummier.
yesss the scumreads pog now explain to me why im scum
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Post Post #207 (isolation #11) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:50 pm

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In post 204, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 193, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 184, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
How many mafia games have you played, grandpa?

also why ask? when you can literally go to my pfp and check my games? also you can look at my status it literally says "i always live up to..." that implies i have played before. i am assuming that you think im new lol
Because asking someone is generally more reliable than assuming someone has exclusively played on this site.
eh. no reason to. not a lot of people ask that question either way and still can gamesolve. sort of nai. you asked how many games i have played... that implies you were talking about MS.
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Post Post #208 (isolation #12) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:50 pm

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In post 206, Andante wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
what the heck? I'm not neighbors with you....

ffs andante u failed the vibe check
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Post Post #209 (isolation #13) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:51 pm

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In post 206, Andante wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
what the heck? I'm not neighbors with you....

honestly i expected a better reaction from you especially considering we are friends:(

its ok tho i give u a 2nd option
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Post Post #210 (isolation #14) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:51 pm

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Post Post #214 (isolation #15) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:52 pm

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In post 213, Vanderscamp wrote:I think grandpa is less scummy now that it seems like he was not actually serious about thinking andante was scum from his claim

vander ffs PLS I LITERALLY CONFESSED IT WAS NOT SERIOUS TO LOKI POKI. LOL
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Post Post #218 (isolation #16) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:54 pm

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In post 197, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 187, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 184, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
How many mafia games have you played, grandpa?

this is my first :p
Why do you think andante confessed to you if he is scum?

Do you think he would only confess in your chat as scum and not as town?
this one lol

pedit: @andante sorry not that one andante:(
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Post Post #220 (isolation #17) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:55 pm

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i thought this was more scummy then the question. is just feels like scum tryna figure out neighbors but confused because i called u my scum buddy and vander got suprsied because they know that andante isnt scum wit them xD
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In post 219, Andante wrote:I'm getting town vibes from Grandpa, even though he's voting me...

shh it was my rvs. dont worry <33 i will pivot soon
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Post Post #226 (isolation #19) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:56 pm

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In post 222, Andante wrote:
In post 218, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 197, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 187, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 184, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
How many mafia games have you played, grandpa?

this is my first :p
Why do you think andante confessed to you if he is scum?

Do you think he would only confess in your chat as scum and not as town?
this one lol

pedit: @andante sorry not that one andante:(
shhhh just tell wolfie it's a different thing and have them going "hmmmm very insightful. mafia."
LOL i like how we both shush each other lmao
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Post Post #231 (isolation #20) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:57 pm

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In post 218, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 197, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 187, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 184, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
How many mafia games have you played, grandpa?

this is my first :p
Why do you think andante confessed to you if he is scum?

Do you think he would only confess in your chat as scum and not as town?
this one lol

pedit: @andante sorry not that one andante:(
In post 220, GrandpaMo wrote:i thought this was more scummy then the question. is just feels like scum tryna figure out neighbors but confused because i called u my scum buddy and vander got suprsied because they know that andante isnt scum wit them xD
@flow trap readdddddd
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In post 230, Andante wrote:
In post 226, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL i like how we both shush each other lmao
Great minds think alike!!
this is where u say its because we are neighbors lol
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In post 227, Andante wrote:
In post 220, GrandpaMo wrote:i thought this was more scummy then the question. is just feels like scum tryna figure out neighbors but confused because i called u my scum buddy and vander got suprsied because they know that andante isnt scum wit them xD
I mean, I feel like scum is either going to kill their neighbors, then claim they're in a hood together, or hunt for the friendly one
o i forgot everyone is in a hood besides friendly neighbor or sum like that
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Post Post #236 (isolation #23) » Sun May 09, 2021 12:58 pm

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bro why is this going so fast btw
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Post Post #329 (isolation #24) » Sun May 09, 2021 7:13 pm

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In post 255, Andante wrote:
In post 252, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 242, Andante wrote:
In post 240, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 220, GrandpaMo wrote:i thought this was more scummy then the question. is just feels like scum tryna figure out neighbors but confused because i called u my scum buddy and vander got suprsied because they know that andante isnt scum wit them xD
No, I was under the impression you were new and being honest about andante's claim and what you thought of it.
I thought this was very scummy so was aiming to investigate it further.
fair enough. still could have checked if i was new tho!

Grandpa and I have memed back in forth in another game, but when I'm catching up, I'm in dead serious mode so yeah :/ I ruined a good chance
u rlly did smh im still mad :rolling_eyes: its okie tho<3

I understand being serious when catching up, but was grandpa's comment really something that, as town, you would think "oh no, this is something I need to correct"?


I'd 100% think that. you have no idea the kinds of accusations people have been throwing at me lately in games, it's usually how I end up claiming so fast most games :/
lol ur so right. our first game sheeshhhh!
In post 252, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 242, Andante wrote:
In post 240, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 220, GrandpaMo wrote:i thought this was more scummy then the question. is just feels like scum tryna figure out neighbors but confused because i called u my scum buddy and vander got suprsied because they know that andante isnt scum wit them xD
No, I was under the impression you were new and being honest about andante's claim and what you thought of it.
I thought this was very scummy so was aiming to investigate it further.


Grandpa and I have memed back in forth in another game, but when I'm catching up, I'm in dead serious mode so yeah :/ I ruined a good chance
I understand being serious when catching up, but was grandpa's comment really something that, as town, you would think "oh no, this is something I need to correct"?
i am actually going to give vander townpings for this. this is actually towny because i had the same thought about andante and i genuinely did expect a better reaction from andante especially considering it was me LOL. and i was even gonna point out "bad rxn" but i gave andante another chance without the pressure. but having that same intuitive thought as me eh i can see why vander is in a town mindset
In post 282, Andante wrote:I've told you. I hate any number of votes on me always. it's the exact same thing... I was caught off guard for grandpa
caught offgaurd by me? smh! shame on you.

also i agree with this. this needs more pressure

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In post 284, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 260, Andante wrote:Grandpa town too.... THE TRIO IS TOWN!!!!
Only two players are worrying me: Vanders and bugs but could it really be that easy?

no its not that ez. i think koba is scum too
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can i say that its obvious who the neighbors are lmfao. like i have 2 in mind and its suprisingly obsious the more i think bout it. or is that tmi :eyes:
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Post Post #332 (isolation #27) » Sun May 09, 2021 7:20 pm

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LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???
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Post Post #334 (isolation #28) » Sun May 09, 2021 9:04 pm

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In post 333, Vanderscamp wrote:Why are you voting Loki, grandpa?
ill explain later when i wake up.

but what do u think bout me townreading u ?

also dont react to anything i said about bugs until im back pls nd thank u
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Post Post #396 (isolation #29) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:09 am

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In post 335, bugspray wrote:
In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???
what are you referring to?
in post 10 where u just said something along the lines of if u should cc friendly neighbor or something
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Post Post #399 (isolation #30) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:13 am

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In post 378, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 329, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 255, Andante wrote:
In post 252, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 242, Andante wrote:
In post 240, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 220, GrandpaMo wrote:i thought this was more scummy then the question. is just feels like scum tryna figure out neighbors but confused because i called u my scum buddy and vander got suprsied because they know that andante isnt scum wit them xD
No, I was under the impression you were new and being honest about andante's claim and what you thought of it.
I thought this was very scummy so was aiming to investigate it further.
fair enough. still could have checked if i was new tho!

Grandpa and I have memed back in forth in another game, but when I'm catching up, I'm in dead serious mode so yeah :/ I ruined a good chance
u rlly did smh im still mad :rolling_eyes: its okie tho<3

I understand being serious when catching up, but was grandpa's comment really something that, as town, you would think "oh no, this is something I need to correct"?


I'd 100% think that. you have no idea the kinds of accusations people have been throwing at me lately in games, it's usually how I end up claiming so fast most games :/
lol ur so right. our first game sheeshhhh!
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In post 220, GrandpaMo wrote:i thought this was more scummy then the question. is just feels like scum tryna figure out neighbors but confused because i called u my scum buddy and vander got suprsied because they know that andante isnt scum wit them xD
No, I was under the impression you were new and being honest about andante's claim and what you thought of it.
I thought this was very scummy so was aiming to investigate it further.


Grandpa and I have memed back in forth in another game, but when I'm catching up, I'm in dead serious mode so yeah :/ I ruined a good chance
I understand being serious when catching up, but was grandpa's comment really something that, as town, you would think "oh no, this is something I need to correct"?
i am actually going to give vander townpings for this. this is actually towny because i had the same thought about andante and i genuinely did expect a better reaction from andante especially considering it was me LOL. and i was even gonna point out "bad rxn" but i gave andante another chance without the pressure. but having that same intuitive thought as me eh i can see why vander is in a town mindset
In post 282, Andante wrote:I've told you. I hate any number of votes on me always. it's the exact same thing... I was caught off guard for grandpa
caught offgaurd by me? smh! shame on you.

also i agree with this. this needs more pressure

VOTE: loki
Where are the actual good players in this game? I need to be far more critical of playerlists in the future. smdh
me. obviously. wait till i get in my analytical phase.
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Post Post #417 (isolation #31) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:35 am

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In post 407, Andante wrote:
In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

This. It's a slip from Grandpa right?? or what?? like, bugs never said in here they were gonna cc friendly, sooo I wanna get to the bottom of this
LOL. Okay calm down calm down. Let me explain now; I just wanted to see pressure/ react test on bugs. Ik Ik it was obviously fake.
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Post Post #419 (isolation #32) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:36 am

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There are no current games where I am player with Bugspray
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Post Post #422 (isolation #33) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:39 am

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In post 412, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???
Oh you’re right, bugs never actually said this. So it’s bugs/mo then and both of them scumslipped? That’s absolutely wild. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a double scumslip before ever.
Wait I am confused. There isn't a scum hood LOL. There is 1 town and 1 scum and 2 town hoods. So your theory is debunked. Unless you are talking about mafia PT?

How did I scumslip if I said...Oh I see you thought that ..what? That wouldn't make sense, why would I say that? I obviously meant that claim in neighborhood. I didn't realize andante actually claimed hood with Bugs
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Post Post #423 (isolation #34) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:40 am

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In post 420, Andante wrote:
In post 334, GrandpaMo wrote:also dont react to anything i said about bugs until im back pls nd thank u
like, that reaction to saying what was said? what? I understand Grandpa entered the game yelling I claimed scum.... hold up.. they're not the solve

VOTE: Grandpa

but I'm done with these antics

I obviously set that up beacuse I wanted to see bugs reaction and I didn't want yall to be like ohh bugs scumslipped without me there lmao. And bugs DID in fact reply later on.
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Post Post #427 (isolation #35) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:42 am

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im so fucking lost rn
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Post Post #428 (isolation #36) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:42 am

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u literally called me out scum because u were neighbors with bugs and u thought i scumslipped because of that?? what is ur point
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Post Post #429 (isolation #37) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:43 am

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andante good job u got a good rxn now unvote pls im town
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Post Post #431 (isolation #38) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:44 am

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thank u. i think we actually vote bugs here lol

VOTE: bugs
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Post Post #434 (isolation #39) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:44 am

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In post 430, Andante wrote:I think you're trying to fish FN out right now

any expierenced player should know not to say anything. also i think optimal play for mafia is actually NOT to kill fn i believe
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Post Post #436 (isolation #40) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:45 am

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In post 432, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???
This is post #332.

In post 390, bugspray wrote:i wasnt trying to get gb to e1 at all, if he ended up on e1 i would have unvoted

i'm not pushing you, it seems like your mind has fabricated some circumstances that would be a coincidence if they are all true


pedit:
hi loki, yes
and you're town so if you're FN please get me into the hood so we can be masons <3
And this is post #390.

ok so what r u saying
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In post 435, Andante wrote:I think what started as a joke with the scum partners has backfired...
what joke im still confused
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Post Post #438 (isolation #42) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:46 am

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this never started as a joke lmfao. this started as a reaction test from me. THE SAME THING I DID TO YOU ANDANTE. HENCE WHY I FOLLOWED UP TO VANDER SAYING NOT TO REACT TO THIS NOW THAT SHOULD IMPLY IT WAS A REACTION TEST. bugs had nothing to do wit this.
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Post Post #442 (isolation #43) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:49 am

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In post 439, Andante wrote:
In post 320, DkKoba wrote:Day 1 ends in 13 days, 5 hours, 3 minutes
omg... can we decide before 2 weeks is up... thanks

hm idk why you are acting like this. you are acting different, i thought you would be open to what i said knowing you... honestly you could be scum. yes thats an omgus but coming from what vader said in the beginning on how that reaction could have been + this weird interaction you are speaking to me about which i still have no idea wtf you + loki r talking bout just seems weird. im not going to scumread tho rn
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In post 440, Andante wrote:whatever. bugs today you tomorrow.

VOTE: bugspray
so u think i will put myself in a risky sitatuion to bus, knwoing that you + loki will get me tmr? doesnt make sense. think pls
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Post Post #447 (isolation #45) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:53 am

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In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

yes i post as SCUM in day chat saying "wrong chat" smh
In post 334, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 333, Vanderscamp wrote:Why are you voting Loki, grandpa?
ill explain later when i wake up.

but what do u think bout me townreading u ?

also dont react to anything i said about bugs until im back pls nd thank u

why do u think i said this?
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In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???
what are you referring to?

why do u think bugs said this? obviously because they were confused to.

seriously andante?
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Post Post #448 (isolation #46) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:54 am

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In post 445, Andante wrote:I think you were trying to make a joke/rxn test your partner, and bugs's reaction says everything.... it's a partner going "wtf are you doing"
they would say it in scum pt....
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Post Post #450 (isolation #47) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:55 am

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In post 444, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 434, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 430, Andante wrote:I think you're trying to fish FN out right now

any expierenced player should know not to say anything. also i think optimal play for mafia is actually NOT to kill fn i believe
Why? They are the only role that can be confirmed without a flip. Town only gets confirmed if their hood partner’s scum and they get flipped.
yea bout wouldn't be optimal for mafia to go for neighbor then ... oh wait this isnt lovers. neighbors dont both die if one dies?
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Post Post #452 (isolation #48) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:58 am

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In post 449, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 442, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 439, Andante wrote:
In post 320, DkKoba wrote:Day 1 ends in 13 days, 5 hours, 3 minutes
omg... can we decide before 2 weeks is up... thanks

hm idk why you are acting like this. you are acting different, i thought you would be open to what i said knowing you... honestly you could be scum. yes thats an omgus but coming from what vader said in the beginning on how that reaction could have been + this weird interaction you are speaking to me about which i still have no idea wtf you + loki r talking bout just seems weird. im not going to scumread tho rn
Both you and bugs referenced fn and it does look really sus. I’m torn because your tone is good but omgussing Andante for that makes no sense. It definitely looks suspicious. Irrespective of whether or not she’s right, how do you not see that?
im not completely sussing andante. look at where my vote is. im voting bugs. and andante is voting wit me and they think i would bus if i know that you + loki and whoever else will be on my ass tmr if it does flip scum. like what? nd yes im town. i never saw it because i was confused, i thought u loki were reacting to my fake claim of bugs scumslip in my neighborchat and that was my goal.. to get reactions. it worked out. i expected a better reaction from bugs honestly. but then i never saw the fishing or whatever u were vconversing bout wit to bugs until now.
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Post Post #454 (isolation #49) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:59 am

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In post 451, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 443, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 440, Andante wrote:whatever. bugs today you tomorrow.

VOTE: bugspray
so u think i will put myself in a risky sitatuion to bus, knwoing that you + loki will get me tmr? doesnt make sense. think pls
I don’t know about you but bugs suggesting I might be fn practically claim out of the blue. They never even expressed a tr on me prior to that.

see. i never knew this. where did he say that at lol
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Post Post #455 (isolation #50) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:59 am

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In post 453, Andante wrote:
In post 450, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 444, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 434, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 430, Andante wrote:I think you're trying to fish FN out right now

any expierenced player should know not to say anything. also i think optimal play for mafia is actually NOT to kill fn i believe
Why? They are the only role that can be confirmed without a flip. Town only gets confirmed if their hood partner’s scum and they get flipped.
yea bout wouldn't be optimal for mafia to go for neighbor then ... oh wait this isnt lovers. neighbors dont both die if one dies?
no. if your neighbor dies, you still live
ok then yea fn is the kill ig i thought this wasnt a lovers format
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Post Post #458 (isolation #51) » Mon May 10, 2021 6:07 am

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In post 457, Andante wrote:
In post 456, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 450, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 444, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 434, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 430, Andante wrote:I think you're trying to fish FN out right now

any expierenced player should know not to say anything. also i think optimal play for mafia is actually NOT to kill fn i believe
Why? They are the only role that can be confirmed without a flip. Town only gets confirmed if their hood partner’s scum and they get flipped.
yea bout wouldn't be optimal for mafia to go for neighbor then ... oh wait this isnt lovers. neighbors dont both die if one dies?
This might actually be a an actual townslip, idk but bugs post to me also seemed really off. I highly doubt that unless bugs and you are actually buddies and you actually did slip, that bugs would be dumb enough to CC fn claim though. shelleyc got the actual fn speed elimed by fakeclaiming doc and was elimed the following day.
Ehh felt like Grandpa has been trying to fish hoods/find FN, first tried on me, then bugs, and will likely keep up this "rxn test" until someone claims FN
WHY WOULD ANYONE CLAIM FN??? No one is that dumb enough. Are you really trying to test the integrity of this playerlist WTF. I did it because I knew FN is not dumb enough to claim Day 1 especially in this setup where FN is priroity and the only way to winning, after that is most likely associates and figuring out scum in hoods.
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Post Post #461 (isolation #52) » Mon May 10, 2021 6:11 am

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In post 459, Andante wrote:
In post 458, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 457, Andante wrote:
In post 456, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 450, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 444, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 434, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 430, Andante wrote:I think you're trying to fish FN out right now

any expierenced player should know not to say anything. also i think optimal play for mafia is actually NOT to kill fn i believe
Why? They are the only role that can be confirmed without a flip. Town only gets confirmed if their hood partner’s scum and they get flipped.
yea bout wouldn't be optimal for mafia to go for neighbor then ... oh wait this isnt lovers. neighbors dont both die if one dies?
This might actually be a an actual townslip, idk but bugs post to me also seemed really off. I highly doubt that unless bugs and you are actually buddies and you actually did slip, that bugs would be dumb enough to CC fn claim though. shelleyc got the actual fn speed elimed by fakeclaiming doc and was elimed the following day.
Ehh felt like Grandpa has been trying to fish hoods/find FN, first tried on me, then bugs, and will likely keep up this "rxn test" until someone claims FN
WHY WOULD ANYONE CLAIM FN??? No one is that dumb enough. Are you really trying to test the integrity of this playerlist WTF. I did it because I knew FN is not dumb enough to claim Day 1 especially in this setup where FN is priroity and the only way to winning, after that is most likely associates and figuring out scum in hoods.
I'm just saying. it feels sus. you know I have a history of claiming PR with the slightest pressure, and I was the first you chose to "rxn test" fishy...
that is actually false. where have i said you were the first that i chose to rxn test? this was meant a rxn test out of bugs... like i have been saying. explain pls?
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Post Post #466 (isolation #53) » Mon May 10, 2021 6:19 am

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In post 462, Andante wrote:when you entered saying I claimed maf in the hood...
oh that wasnt a rxn test but more of a meme honestly, it was my first post i considered it to be my rvs lol . literally did u not read any of the convo that happened after that where we were having fun??
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Post Post #467 (isolation #54) » Mon May 10, 2021 6:20 am

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In post 464, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 458, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 457, Andante wrote:
In post 456, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 450, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 444, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 434, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 430, Andante wrote:I think you're trying to fish FN out right now

any expierenced player should know not to say anything. also i think optimal play for mafia is actually NOT to kill fn i believe
Why? They are the only role that can be confirmed without a flip. Town only gets confirmed if their hood partner’s scum and they get flipped.
yea bout wouldn't be optimal for mafia to go for neighbor then ... oh wait this isnt lovers. neighbors dont both die if one dies?
This might actually be a an actual townslip, idk but bugs post to me also seemed really off. I highly doubt that unless bugs and you are actually buddies and you actually did slip, that bugs would be dumb enough to CC fn claim though. shelleyc got the actual fn speed elimed by fakeclaiming doc and was elimed the following day.
Ehh felt like Grandpa has been trying to fish hoods/find FN, first tried on me, then bugs, and will likely keep up this "rxn test" until someone claims FN
WHY WOULD ANYONE CLAIM FN??? No one is that dumb enough. Are you really trying to test the integrity of this playerlist WTF. I did it because I knew FN is not dumb enough to claim Day 1 especially in this setup where FN is priroity and the only way to winning, after that is most likely associates and figuring out scum in hoods.
Of course no one would claim unless they were getting run up but that wouldn’t mean that scum couldn’t figure that out.
they wouldn't because they wouldnt claim. andante's logic was that FN would have outted and claimed and etc not deciphering thru slips, tmi, or whatever there is to pr read
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Post Post #469 (isolation #55) » Mon May 10, 2021 6:21 am

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In post 465, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 459, Andante wrote:
In post 458, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 457, Andante wrote:
In post 456, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 450, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 444, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 434, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 430, Andante wrote:I think you're trying to fish FN out right now

any expierenced player should know not to say anything. also i think optimal play for mafia is actually NOT to kill fn i believe
Why? They are the only role that can be confirmed without a flip. Town only gets confirmed if their hood partner’s scum and they get flipped.
yea bout wouldn't be optimal for mafia to go for neighbor then ... oh wait this isnt lovers. neighbors dont both die if one dies?
This might actually be a an actual townslip, idk but bugs post to me also seemed really off. I highly doubt that unless bugs and you are actually buddies and you actually did slip, that bugs would be dumb enough to CC fn claim though. shelleyc got the actual fn speed elimed by fakeclaiming doc and was elimed the following day.
Ehh felt like Grandpa has been trying to fish hoods/find FN, first tried on me, then bugs, and will likely keep up this "rxn test" until someone claims FN
WHY WOULD ANYONE CLAIM FN??? No one is that dumb enough. Are you really trying to test the integrity of this playerlist WTF. I did it because I knew FN is not dumb enough to claim Day 1 especially in this setup where FN is priroity and the only way to winning, after that is most likely associates and figuring out scum in hoods.
I'm just saying. it feels sus. you know I have a history of claiming PR with the slightest pressure, and I was the first you chose to "rxn test" fishy...
You were in that newbie game with mo, correct? I really didn’t read it but I think you were both town.
yes we were both town. and in fact, i was the only one defending him as town and in fact they flipped town. ik why they are acting this specific way especially with the demeanor change in open809. but i dont think we can talk bout that since andante is still not dead. but i am and i flipped town in that
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Post Post #470 (isolation #56) » Mon May 10, 2021 6:22 am

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In post 468, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 462, Andante wrote:when you entered saying I claimed maf in the hood...
But he knows you can’t possibly be fn then. Scum has no reason to rolefish their neighbour. So if bugs is scum, he knows for certain two townies who can’t possibly be fn right?
this was never real... look at what i said
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Post Post #471 (isolation #57) » Mon May 10, 2021 6:22 am

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In post 470, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 468, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 462, Andante wrote:when you entered saying I claimed maf in the hood...
But he knows you can’t possibly be fn then. Scum has no reason to rolefish their neighbour. So if bugs is scum, he knows for certain two townies who can’t possibly be fn right?
this was never real... look at what i said
im confused why you are taking memes as hypotheticals lol.
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Post Post #475 (isolation #58) » Mon May 10, 2021 6:33 am

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In post 472, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 467, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 464, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 458, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 457, Andante wrote:
In post 456, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 450, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 444, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 434, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 430, Andante wrote:I think you're trying to fish FN out right now

any expierenced player should know not to say anything. also i think optimal play for mafia is actually NOT to kill fn i believe
Why? They are the only role that can be confirmed without a flip. Town only gets confirmed if their hood partner’s scum and they get flipped.
yea bout wouldn't be optimal for mafia to go for neighbor then ... oh wait this isnt lovers. neighbors dont both die if one dies?
This might actually be a an actual townslip, idk but bugs post to me also seemed really off. I highly doubt that unless bugs and you are actually buddies and you actually did slip, that bugs would be dumb enough to CC fn claim though. shelleyc got the actual fn speed elimed by fakeclaiming doc and was elimed the following day.
Ehh felt like Grandpa has been trying to fish hoods/find FN, first tried on me, then bugs, and will likely keep up this "rxn test" until someone claims FN
WHY WOULD ANYONE CLAIM FN??? No one is that dumb enough. Are you really trying to test the integrity of this playerlist WTF. I did it because I knew FN is not dumb enough to claim Day 1 especially in this setup where FN is priroity and the only way to winning, after that is most likely associates and figuring out scum in hoods.
Of course no one would claim unless they were getting run up but that wouldn’t mean that scum couldn’t figure that out.
they wouldn't because they wouldnt claim. andante's logic was that FN would have outted and claimed and etc not deciphering thru slips, tmi, or whatever there is to pr read
Fn could possibly conceivably slip that. That’s what rolefishing is.

i had a different def for what rolefishing was. ig im wrong

You don’t rolefish to get an actual claim but reaction test to find out - in this particular case - who’s the fn.

i didnt know this lol AT ALL. well im lying, i knew bout this but not in the way you had it. i thought they are all ok and passive with my claim... no reason for others to react honestly that was my mindset. no reason for anyone else (i clearly pointed that out too after that post to vander saying not to react because i didnt want in this case fn to come out or someone would come out and out that i was lying and they were neighbors wit bugs and etc)



I don’t know what you’re doing but I would be extremely shocked if bugs didn’t straight up try to rolefish me. However, while its conceivable that Andante could be right about you bugs being SvS, I think it’s probably more anti-associative, probably because I don’t think bugs would actually say that unless it was closer to elo or they were getting run up or it was a joke.
see look what im trying to say we cant be S.S because if im voting bugs now and lets say we flip bugs today (since andante is voting bugs right) and they flip scum. now guess all that pressure will be onto me. ik thats wifom but why would i risk that as scum. as mafia i would try to push the omgus read i had, and actually flip the narrative onto andante but im not doing that. also when i said that i townread vander more than loki etc.

idk what you are tlaking bout with bugs because i had no idea the conversation that facilated with that; all i know is that bugs tried to fish u or something? trying to get FN to out or something? i thought in that time that neighbors were paired as lovers so also that would have debunked that theory fwiw.
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Post Post #477 (isolation #59) » Mon May 10, 2021 6:35 am

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Okay, oops I thought it had ended. :oops:[/quote]

newbie2059 ended. that is what i was referring to. then i brought up the second time we were a game together in open809
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Post Post #493 (isolation #60) » Mon May 10, 2021 8:13 am

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In post 490, flow trap wrote:
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In post 447, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

yes i post as SCUM in day chat saying "wrong chat" smh
In post 334, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 333, Vanderscamp wrote:Why are you voting Loki, grandpa?
ill explain later when i wake up.

but what do u think bout me townreading u ?

also dont react to anything i said about bugs until im back pls nd thank u

why do u think i said this?
In post 335, bugspray wrote:
In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???
what are you referring to?

why do u think bugs said this? obviously because they were confused to.

seriously andante?


The first one is a good point, it was meant for public chat
yes thats obvious
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In post 462, Andante wrote:when you entered saying I claimed maf in the hood...
That was a joke and not a test?
exactly. that wasn't even why the whole convo started... idk why andante was getting offended over that specifically. the whole idea was me slipping or sum shit
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Post Post #494 (isolation #61) » Mon May 10, 2021 8:13 am

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which im still lowkey confused bout ^
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Post Post #506 (isolation #62) » Mon May 10, 2021 10:33 am

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In post 503, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 385, bugspray wrote:
In post 382, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 356, bugspray wrote:
@mod is it possible for both scum neighbors to be in the same hood and then every other hood is pure town?
Is this a fake townslip? Did you seriously not read the setup?
i am known for not reading setups
what did you think the setup was in detail, because you clearly have most of the knowledge of it
In post 407, Andante wrote:
In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

This. It's a slip from Grandpa right?? or what?? like, bugs never said in here they were gonna cc friendly, sooo I wanna get to the bottom of this
i think i'm misunderstanding something. if scum!bugspray slipped by posting something meant for their scumchat in their hood instead then doesn't that make GrandpaMo town?
i still am confused. that's why i dont get it. they are saying (well andante is pushing the narrative) that i scumslipped with bugs because i meant to put that in scum pt??? even tho i referenced the rxn by saying "wrong chat" like thats where that theory is debunked.
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Post Post #528 (isolation #63) » Mon May 10, 2021 12:17 pm

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this is a hard game to solve ngl. i think we have more info by day 2 or something
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Post Post #529 (isolation #64) » Mon May 10, 2021 12:29 pm

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In post 526, bugspray wrote:i can get why ppl would sr me but im real confused why mo made that weird wrong thread pst
it wasnt a wrong thread lol
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Post Post #531 (isolation #65) » Mon May 10, 2021 1:57 pm

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In post 530, bugspray wrote:
In post 528, GrandpaMo wrote:this is a hard game to solve ngl. i think we have more info by day 2 or something
lazy excuse to not want to solve d1. are you scum?
what? where have i said that? don't take my words out of context. saying a game is hard to solve =/= trying to solve.

i just said we will have more info by day 2. bad question
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Post Post #541 (isolation #66) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:47 pm

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In post 532, Andante wrote:
In post 528, GrandpaMo wrote:this is a hard game to solve ngl. i think we have more info by day 2 or something
considering we have 14 days for day 1.... I sincerely hope we hammer before that deadline. d2 is a lot more useful

yea thats what i meant. day 2 is way more useful so idk what bugs is on bout lmao
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Post Post #542 (isolation #67) » Mon May 10, 2021 5:48 pm

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In post 539, Robert M Hunter wrote:What is the reasoning behind keeping the neighbors secret?

because you would out the FN. FN is the only one who isn't in a neighbor. scum already know 2 ppl that isn't FN... have u read anything of what loki said?
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Post Post #544 (isolation #68) » Mon May 10, 2021 7:29 pm

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In post 543, Andante wrote:
In post 542, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 539, Robert M Hunter wrote:What is the reasoning behind keeping the neighbors secret?

because you would out the FN. FN is the only one who isn't in a neighbor. scum already know 2 ppl that isn't FN... have u read anything of what loki said?

I mean, I feel like odds are real high scum will also know FN, like, say I was FN, I tell you, you say in your hood that I'm FN, both of you know, and if either are scum I'd be dead

but still, lets not out hoods today!! we'll see where we're at tomorrow
my hood partner could be scum now ngl
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Post Post #545 (isolation #69) » Mon May 10, 2021 7:29 pm

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not outing who just yet. i will see where the current pace of the game is going at till i make that choice
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Post Post #632 (isolation #70) » Tue May 11, 2021 8:07 am

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In post 554, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 417, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 407, Andante wrote:
In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

This. It's a slip from Grandpa right?? or what?? like, bugs never said in here they were gonna cc friendly, sooo I wanna get to the bottom of this
LOL. Okay calm down calm down. Let me explain now; I just wanted to see pressure/ react test on bugs. Ik Ik it was obviously fake.
If we flip bugspray and he is scum this is a mandatory flip
think bout it... if i was in a hotbox wit bugs earlier on how everyone was saying i was paired wit bugs... why am i voting them rn to get the pressure onto me tmr and if yall vote me tmr, the game ends in your perspective. why would i do this as mafia. again, vote logic contradicts here.
In post 567, bugspray wrote:
In post 554, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 417, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 407, Andante wrote:
In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

This. It's a slip from Grandpa right?? or what?? like, bugs never said in here they were gonna cc friendly, sooo I wanna get to the bottom of this
LOL. Okay calm down calm down. Let me explain now; I just wanted to see pressure/ react test on bugs. Ik Ik it was obviously fake.
If we flip bugspray and he is scum this is a mandatory flip
My pronouns are they/them and if you were playing the game as town you would never make this post seeing how I literally sussed mo in our Hood.

Truthfully I believe this is an attempt to give mo towncred after you miselim me. You and mo are scum partners
there is no towncred given because we aren't alligned. if vander is saying it will flip scum and you flip scum >>> votes/pressure on me. if you flip town >>> im still scum by other means of interaction with andante and loki. no reason for vander to play it out like that as scum.
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In post 545, GrandpaMo wrote:not outing who just yet. i will see where the current pace of the game is going at till i make that choice
How can we take seriously anything you’ve said so far in this game? First you claim Andante is your neighbor who confessed to being scum, then the weird bugs’ fake fn CC thing and now this. You have done so much gambiting so far in this game, I honestly can’t tell when or what your saying is on the level or not.
ok this post actually pisses me off because you are literally taking everything out of context a it feels like you havent read anything. i will say this again... the andante thing was my rvs enterance. andante should know this.,.. andante never had a problem with it right after i explained what happened. pls look at post 186-189 and 191. me in 191 saying hi to andante. why would i do this if there is a neighbor chat SUPPOSEDLY with them. then look at the interaction wit me and anadnte right after. plus you never bring this convo up until later when the bugs thing happened. look at 206 - 224. nothing wrong here. andante even TOWNREAD me BTW! there hasn't been any hoppity hop. i am not just gonna act anti town for any reason and throw the game by not outting yk the partner when is necessary but we can't even do that because it outs the FN!

In post 601, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 567, bugspray wrote:
In post 554, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 417, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 407, Andante wrote:
In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

This. It's a slip from Grandpa right?? or what?? like, bugs never said in here they were gonna cc friendly, sooo I wanna get to the bottom of this
LOL. Okay calm down calm down. Let me explain now; I just wanted to see pressure/ react test on bugs. Ik Ik it was obviously fake.
If we flip bugspray and he is scum this is a mandatory flip
My pronouns are they/them and if you were playing the game as town you would never make this post seeing how I literally sussed mo in our Hood.

Truthfully I believe this is an attempt to give mo towncred after you miselim me. You and mo are scum partners
I could see that. I initially liked mo but he has been declining and his brief vote on me was possibly the weirdest one because it just seemed to come out of nowhere and unlike Robert there was literally no basis for it.

And now Vanders is telling me that it’s a bad reason to sr slots who sr me. :lol: That’s freaking hilarious.

I hope you weren’t trying to pocket me earlier but I have a weak gut tl on you now and I definitely could see that. I had that same initial concern with Robert when he initially claimed me and Vanders were his strongest srs but he wasn’t hard trying to drive an elim on me.

really?... out of all the reasons you choose "his brief vote on me was possibly the weirdest one" out of the all the reasons that i could have been "declining" you chose a random vote in which was to drive the game into pressure. just look at post 329 where i said:
also i agree with this. this needs more pressure

VOTE: loki
In post 614, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
I think since Andante is clearly not your neighbor, this is scum rolefishing for fn.

VOTE: GrandpaMo
ok again you vote me for something that was just utter not scum indicitive imo. you say i was just rolefishing however you should know that (i even explained this) me and andante had a past before and i was expecting everything to be fine. "i think since andante is clearly not your neighbor" wtf quote is that.... YES I OUT MY NEIGHBOR FRAME ONE /s damn. also another playstyle is to fake neighborhood btw and that was lowkey was tryna do but then andante didn't get the point but its fine because we are all in neighbors and mafia still doesn't what neighbor anadnte is in or what neighbor i am in. and both me and andante could be in hoods that are both tvt and mafia would obviously know that but it wouldn't make sense. again rvs vote... this was my enterence.. you are just over thinking this ngl. if you dont think bugs is scum anymore, then who do u think my partner is LOL
In post 616, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 205, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 202, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 192, Loki Dokie wrote:No decent player sr a player for not being a fucking mind reader, so whatever you are, that’s seriously idiotic. No offense but newsflash not getting a joke doesn’t make you scum.
I'd be pretty careful about who you are calling bad or idiotic given you have failed to understand the "nuance" of something that I would have expected someone with no mafia experience to grasp.
I'm not scum reading you for not reading minds, I thought you were being overly serious regarding what andante was doing and your push on bugspray seems overly strong.

But you might be in luck regarding my vote now because grandpa seems scummier.
yesss the scumreads pog now explain to me why im scum
This could possibly be scum distancing.
i believe that this is confirmation bias because i do that as well... where you put a scumread on me then you try to iso and stuff and you find stuff now that can make the person look scummy; either as scum or town. now i will ask u this, have you checked my previous games? i do this literally every game when someone just puts a scumread on me for no reasoning and thats what vander did. no reason to distance as scum... optimal play for scum is to become more alligned imo to fake neighborhood i think. ur buddy bugs contradicts ur logic because they think we are alligned wit the weird towny thing.
In post 626, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 624, GeorgeBailey wrote:I'm making my catch up post but I really have to say, can ya'll please stop outing your hoods D1? It singles out the TFN and only helps scum right now.
In post 611, Loki Dokie wrote:I scum between bugs and Vanders and 1 between Mo and Robert.
Mo made it obvious because no one outside that group of four has been remotely scummy.
i didnt make anything obvious. that is YOU. how you think and what your persepcitve is telling you. not other people and maybe NOT even mafia knows yet but thru this quote u make it more obvious urself so u become hypocritical.
In post 629, Andante wrote:
In post 614, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
I think since Andante is clearly not your neighbor, this is scum rolefishing for fn.

VOTE: GrandpaMo
I said that after the bugs ccing FN shenanigans... Grandpa is only trying to fish
at least andante brings up the bugs thing while loki hasnt and thats the fishy thing. pun intended. anyways, you should know andante like i already explained and clearly made it clear on what my intentions... again why would i say clearly "wrong chat" that means it wasn't ever intended for scum pt. i think you flipped ur narrative 2 or 3 times either thinking i slipped for scum or made it where i was trying to rolefish. trying to fish is DIFFERENT then me slipping as you say. and thats why i was confused thru out the whole interaction because both of you were saying two different things and hopkirk even said i was be town if i slipped or sum shit.
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Post Post #634 (isolation #71) » Tue May 11, 2021 9:06 am

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In post 633, bugspray wrote:Why red
i always use red since its a distinct color to value what's important in the context. always have used it and will continue to use it along wit purple
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Post Post #636 (isolation #72) » Tue May 11, 2021 9:48 am

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In post 635, bugspray wrote:Your entire post is red what the fuck do you mean context
in the context of what i am saying...? what does the color have to do anything. i just highlighted it to make it distinct ... why are you trying it make it like a color post is AI xD
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Post Post #638 (isolation #73) » Tue May 11, 2021 10:08 am

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In post 637, bugspray wrote:I never implied it's ai, that's you just being self conscious. I think the self consciousness is ai though.
VOTE: mo

huh then why the fuck did you ask that question????
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In post 635, bugspray wrote:Your entire post is red what the fuck do you mean context

this question results in a self concious answer from a town mindset???

and look at you voting me, to prove my point LOL
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Post Post #640 (isolation #75) » Tue May 11, 2021 10:09 am

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did you like read nothing i said in that red or was it just "why red"
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Post Post #641 (isolation #76) » Tue May 11, 2021 10:13 am

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there were two posts that were focused on you and i suggest you reading that because i am waiting for a reply/reaction from you before deciding to either change or stay my vote. idc what ur doing rn even tho it looks weird for u.. i just care about the content you give in direction of my post. if the only content u give based on what i have said to u IS that "why red" then i will have to presumpively not change my vote. but i will give you another chance to actually read and respond to what i said.
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Post Post #657 (isolation #77) » Tue May 11, 2021 12:46 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 646, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 329, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 255, Andante wrote:
In post 252, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 242, Andante wrote:
In post 240, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 220, GrandpaMo wrote:i thought this was more scummy then the question. is just feels like scum tryna figure out neighbors but confused because i called u my scum buddy and vander got suprsied because they know that andante isnt scum wit them xD
No, I was under the impression you were new and being honest about andante's claim and what you thought of it.
I thought this was very scummy so was aiming to investigate it further.
fair enough. still could have checked if i was new tho!

Grandpa and I have memed back in forth in another game, but when I'm catching up, I'm in dead serious mode so yeah :/ I ruined a good chance
u rlly did smh im still mad :rolling_eyes: its okie tho<3

I understand being serious when catching up, but was grandpa's comment really something that, as town, you would think "oh no, this is something I need to correct"?


I'd 100% think that. you have no idea the kinds of accusations people have been throwing at me lately in games, it's usually how I end up claiming so fast most games :/
lol ur so right. our first game sheeshhhh!
In post 252, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 242, Andante wrote:
In post 240, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 220, GrandpaMo wrote:i thought this was more scummy then the question. is just feels like scum tryna figure out neighbors but confused because i called u my scum buddy and vander got suprsied because they know that andante isnt scum wit them xD
No, I was under the impression you were new and being honest about andante's claim and what you thought of it.
I thought this was very scummy so was aiming to investigate it further.


Grandpa and I have memed back in forth in another game, but when I'm catching up, I'm in dead serious mode so yeah :/ I ruined a good chance
I understand being serious when catching up, but was grandpa's comment really something that, as town, you would think "oh no, this is something I need to correct"?
i am actually going to give vander townpings for this. this is actually towny because i had the same thought about andante and i genuinely did expect a better reaction from andante especially considering it was me LOL. and i was even gonna point out "bad rxn" but i gave andante another chance without the pressure. but having that same intuitive thought as me eh i can see why vander is in a town mindset
In post 282, Andante wrote:I've told you. I hate any number of votes on me always. it's the exact same thing... I was caught off guard for grandpa
caught offgaurd by me? smh! shame on you.


also i agree with this. this needs more pressure

VOTE: loki[/quote]

Why would anyone think that a player that got rapid fire votes to e - 2 in a 9 player game “needed more pressure”? And you based your vote on me because you liked Andante’s answer which has what to do with me anyway?

I don’t believe your reason for voting me here and yes, that was the most suspicious vote on me. Vanders putting me to e - 2 is second.

Look at this pattern. You and Vanders are pushing/voting the same slots: me/Andante/bugs. That can’t be a total coincidence.[/quote]

huh. first of all u werent in e-2 LOL.

second, i townread andante. im sorta townleaning you and only person i had a scumread on bugs hence the vote. and im still going thru posts to determine if i change my vote or stay my vote as like i siad to bugs i would
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Post Post #658 (isolation #78) » Tue May 11, 2021 12:46 pm

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In post 651, bugspray wrote:at least one scum in {loki, vander, mo}
this is proof you just ignored my post.

my vote will now stay on you.
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Post Post #659 (isolation #79) » Tue May 11, 2021 12:48 pm

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@loki surface level logic btw
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Post Post #660 (isolation #80) » Tue May 11, 2021 12:52 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 644, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 632, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 554, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 417, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 407, Andante wrote:
In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

This. It's a slip from Grandpa right?? or what?? like, bugs never said in here they were gonna cc friendly, sooo I wanna get to the bottom of this
LOL. Okay calm down calm down. Let me explain now; I just wanted to see pressure/ react test on bugs. Ik Ik it was obviously fake.
If we flip bugspray and he is scum this is a mandatory flip
think bout it... if i was in a hotbox wit bugs earlier on how everyone was saying i was paired wit bugs... why am i voting them rn to get the pressure onto me tmr and if yall vote me tmr, the game ends in your perspective. why would i do this as mafia. again, vote logic contradicts here.
In post 567, bugspray wrote:
In post 554, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 417, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 407, Andante wrote:
In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

This. It's a slip from Grandpa right?? or what?? like, bugs never said in here they were gonna cc friendly, sooo I wanna get to the bottom of this
LOL. Okay calm down calm down. Let me explain now; I just wanted to see pressure/ react test on bugs. Ik Ik it was obviously fake.
If we flip bugspray and he is scum this is a mandatory flip
My pronouns are they/them and if you were playing the game as town you would never make this post seeing how I literally sussed mo in our Hood.

Truthfully I believe this is an attempt to give mo towncred after you miselim me. You and mo are scum partners
there is no towncred given because we aren't alligned. if vander is saying it will flip scum and you flip scum >>> votes/pressure on me. if you flip town >>> im still scum by other means of interaction with andante and loki. no reason for vander to play it out like that as scum.
In post 592, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 545, GrandpaMo wrote:not outing who just yet. i will see where the current pace of the game is going at till i make that choice
How can we take seriously anything you’ve said so far in this game? First you claim Andante is your neighbor who confessed to being scum, then the weird bugs’ fake fn CC thing and now this. You have done so much gambiting so far in this game, I honestly can’t tell when or what your saying is on the level or not.
ok this post actually pisses me off because you are literally taking everything out of context a it feels like you havent read anything. i will say this again... the andante thing was my rvs enterance. andante should know this.,.. andante never had a problem with it right after i explained what happened. pls look at post 186-189 and 191. me in 191 saying hi to andante. why would i do this if there is a neighbor chat SUPPOSEDLY with them. then look at the interaction wit me and anadnte right after. plus you never bring this convo up until later when the bugs thing happened. look at 206 - 224. nothing wrong here. andante even TOWNREAD me BTW! there hasn't been any hoppity hop. i am not just gonna act anti town for any reason and throw the game by not outting yk the partner when is necessary but we can't even do that because it outs the FN!

In post 601, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 567, bugspray wrote:
In post 554, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 417, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 407, Andante wrote:
In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

This. It's a slip from Grandpa right?? or what?? like, bugs never said in here they were gonna cc friendly, sooo I wanna get to the bottom of this
LOL. Okay calm down calm down. Let me explain now; I just wanted to see pressure/ react test on bugs. Ik Ik it was obviously fake.
If we flip bugspray and he is scum this is a mandatory flip
My pronouns are they/them and if you were playing the game as town you would never make this post seeing how I literally sussed mo in our Hood.

Truthfully I believe this is an attempt to give mo towncred after you miselim me. You and mo are scum partners
I could see that. I initially liked mo but he has been declining and his brief vote on me was possibly the weirdest one because it just seemed to come out of nowhere and unlike Robert there was literally no basis for it.

And now Vanders is telling me that it’s a bad reason to sr slots who sr me. :lol: That’s freaking hilarious.

I hope you weren’t trying to pocket me earlier but I have a weak gut tl on you now and I definitely could see that. I had that same initial concern with Robert when he initially claimed me and Vanders were his strongest srs but he wasn’t hard trying to drive an elim on me.

really?... out of all the reasons you choose "his brief vote on me was possibly the weirdest one" out of the all the reasons that i could have been "declining" you chose a random vote in which was to drive the game into pressure. just look at post 329 where i said:
also i agree with this. this needs more pressure

VOTE: loki
In post 614, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
I think since Andante is clearly not your neighbor, this is scum rolefishing for fn.

VOTE: GrandpaMo
ok again you vote me for something that was just utter not scum indicitive imo. you say i was just rolefishing however you should know that (i even explained this) me and andante had a past before and i was expecting everything to be fine. "i think since andante is clearly not your neighbor" wtf quote is that.... YES I OUT MY NEIGHBOR FRAME ONE /s damn. also another playstyle is to fake neighborhood btw and that was lowkey was tryna do but then andante didn't get the point but its fine because we are all in neighbors and mafia still doesn't what neighbor anadnte is in or what neighbor i am in. and both me and andante could be in hoods that are both tvt and mafia would obviously know that but it wouldn't make sense. again rvs vote... this was my enterence.. you are just over thinking this ngl. if you dont think bugs is scum anymore, then who do u think my partner is LOL
In post 616, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 205, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 202, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 192, Loki Dokie wrote:No decent player sr a player for not being a fucking mind reader, so whatever you are, that’s seriously idiotic. No offense but newsflash not getting a joke doesn’t make you scum.
I'd be pretty careful about who you are calling bad or idiotic given you have failed to understand the "nuance" of something that I would have expected someone with no mafia experience to grasp.
I'm not scum reading you for not reading minds, I thought you were being overly serious regarding what andante was doing and your push on bugspray seems overly strong.

But you might be in luck regarding my vote now because grandpa seems scummier.
yesss the scumreads pog now explain to me why im scum
This could possibly be scum distancing.
i believe that this is confirmation bias because i do that as well... where you put a scumread on me then you try to iso and stuff and you find stuff now that can make the person look scummy; either as scum or town. now i will ask u this, have you checked my previous games? i do this literally every game when someone just puts a scumread on me for no reasoning and thats what vander did. no reason to distance as scum... optimal play for scum is to become more alligned imo to fake neighborhood i think. ur buddy bugs contradicts ur logic because they think we are alligned wit the weird towny thing.
In post 626, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 624, GeorgeBailey wrote:I'm making my catch up post but I really have to say, can ya'll please stop outing your hoods D1? It singles out the TFN and only helps scum right now.
In post 611, Loki Dokie wrote:I scum between bugs and Vanders and 1 between Mo and Robert.
Mo made it obvious because no one outside that group of four has been remotely scummy.
i didnt make anything obvious. that is YOU. how you think and what your persepcitve is telling you. not other people and maybe NOT even mafia knows yet but thru this quote u make it more obvious urself so u become hypocritical.
In post 629, Andante wrote:
In post 614, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
I think since Andante is clearly not your neighbor, this is scum rolefishing for fn.

VOTE: GrandpaMo
I said that after the bugs ccing FN shenanigans... Grandpa is only trying to fish
at least andante brings up the bugs thing while loki hasnt and thats the fishy thing. pun intended. anyways, you should know andante like i already explained and clearly made it clear on what my intentions... again why would i say clearly "wrong chat" that means it wasn't ever intended for scum pt. i think you flipped ur narrative 2 or 3 times either thinking i slipped for scum or made it where i was trying to rolefish. trying to fish is DIFFERENT then me slipping as you say. and thats why i was confused thru out the whole interaction because both of you were saying two different things and hopkirk even said i was be town if i slipped or sum shit.

Out of everyone in the game, I have the most trouble understanding your posts.
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it's not even that hard to follow.. i literally give it in baby steps. stop giving excuses to yourself for not reading.
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Post Post #664 (isolation #81) » Tue May 11, 2021 12:59 pm

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In post 662, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 658, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 651, bugspray wrote:at least one scum in {loki, vander, mo}
this is proof you just ignored my post.

my vote will now stay on you.
Once again bs voting me by quoting someone else.
im not voting you. my vote is on bugs...
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Post Post #665 (isolation #82) » Tue May 11, 2021 1:00 pm

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In post 320, DkKoba wrote:
Vote Count 1.3
Vanderscamp
(3): Loki Dokie, Andante, bugspray
Andante
(2): GrandpaMo, Vanderscamp
Robert M Hunter
(1): flow trap
GeorgeBailey
(1): Hopkirk
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(1): GeorgeBailey

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Post Post #666 (isolation #83) » Tue May 11, 2021 1:00 pm

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im so confused ;-;
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Post Post #667 (isolation #84) » Tue May 11, 2021 1:02 pm

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In post 431, GrandpaMo wrote:thank u. i think we actually vote bugs here lol

VOTE: bugs
my vote was on bugs this whole time. so i have NO idea what you are talking about anymore.
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Post Post #668 (isolation #85) » Tue May 11, 2021 1:04 pm

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And that is what I have literally have been saying for the past 5 times when you and andante kept referencing that "slip" or whatever the fuck yall called it. And you get to call me scum. But yes I vote my partner who in this case will flip scum in your perspective and that would make me look scum. I could have obviously directed it to another vote but what would I be gaining from just bussing if I were scum? Nothing. I thought you knew I had my vote on bugs the whole time.
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Post Post #674 (isolation #86) » Tue May 11, 2021 1:12 pm

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In post 238, flow trap wrote:UNVOTE: Loki Dokie
In post 229, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 215, Andante wrote:
In post 213, Vanderscamp wrote:I think grandpa is less scummy now that it seems like he was not actually serious about thinking andante was scum from his claim
lmao what did I claim?? I didn't out my neighbor, I'm pretty dang sure
Yeah, I don't really care whether you actually claimed it or not given grandpa was not serious.
VOTE: andante because you care too much about telling us that you did not claim mafia.
u come off e-2 here
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In post 319, Robert M Hunter wrote:VOTE: Loki Dokie I'm on p.7, this player is scum.
robert votes u , bugs hops of u.
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Andante
(2): GrandpaMo, Vanderscamp
Robert M Hunter
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In post 329, GrandpaMo wrote:
also i agree with this. this needs more pressure

VOTE: loki
now i vote u right after the vc happens look at that only robert is voting u and vander was in a more hot stake than u

pls
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Post Post #676 (isolation #87) » Tue May 11, 2021 1:12 pm

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In post 669, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 665, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 320, DkKoba wrote:
Vote Count 1.3
Vanderscamp
(3): Loki Dokie, Andante, bugspray
Andante
(2): GrandpaMo, Vanderscamp
Robert M Hunter
(1): flow trap
GeorgeBailey
(1): Hopkirk
Loki Dokie
(1): Robert M Hunter

Not Voting
(1): GeorgeBailey

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U WERENT ON E-2 WHAT R U ON ABOUT
Read the game. Flow voted me, then bugs, then Vanders. Just because Koba didn’t put into the VC doesn’t mean that didn’t happen.
i just gave u a wallpost of what happened.
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Post Post #683 (isolation #88) » Tue May 11, 2021 1:32 pm

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In post 678, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 674, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 238, flow trap wrote:UNVOTE: Loki Dokie
In post 229, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 215, Andante wrote:
In post 213, Vanderscamp wrote:I think grandpa is less scummy now that it seems like he was not actually serious about thinking andante was scum from his claim
lmao what did I claim?? I didn't out my neighbor, I'm pretty dang sure
Yeah, I don't really care whether you actually claimed it or not given grandpa was not serious.
VOTE: andante because you care too much about telling us that you did not claim mafia.
u come off e-2 here
In post 287, DkKoba wrote:
Vote Count 1.2
Andante
(2): GrandpaMo, Vanderscamp
Vanderscamp
(2): Loki Dokie, Andante
Hopkirk
(1): Robert M Hunter
GeorgeBailey
(1): Hopkirk
Loki Dokie
(1): bugspray

Not Voting
(2): flow trap, GeorgeBailey

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.
In post 319, Robert M Hunter wrote:VOTE: Loki Dokie I'm on p.7, this player is scum.
robert votes u , bugs hops of u.
In post 320, DkKoba wrote:
Vote Count 1.3
Vanderscamp
(3): Loki Dokie, Andante, bugspray
Andante
(2): GrandpaMo, Vanderscamp
Robert M Hunter
(1): flow trap
GeorgeBailey
(1): Hopkirk
Loki Dokie
(1): Robert M Hunter

Not Voting
(1): GeorgeBailey

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In post 329, GrandpaMo wrote:
also i agree with this. this needs more pressure

VOTE: loki
now i vote u right after the vc happens look at that only robert is voting u and vander was in a more hot stake than u

pls
Stop with this, it’s really upsetting me. I had three votes on me at once. If you refuse to reread the game and attempt to verify this, that’s on you not me.

It’s really pissing me off that you are wrongly accusing of something that you could easily verify if you wanted to.
thats literally me re reading the game! PLS GO AHEAD AND SHOW ME WHERE U WERE AT E-2 PLS GO AHEAD AND DEBUNK MY THEORY. u have literally ignored this for multiple times now... and now even saying the mod's vc isn't true. mod will be verifying now.... since u don't want to.
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Post Post #684 (isolation #89) » Tue May 11, 2021 1:34 pm

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In post 677, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 632, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 554, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 417, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 407, Andante wrote:
In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

This. It's a slip from Grandpa right?? or what?? like, bugs never said in here they were gonna cc friendly, sooo I wanna get to the bottom of this
LOL. Okay calm down calm down. Let me explain now; I just wanted to see pressure/ react test on bugs. Ik Ik it was obviously fake.
If we flip bugspray and he is scum this is a mandatory flip
think bout it... if i was in a hotbox wit bugs earlier on how everyone was saying i was paired wit bugs... why am i voting them rn to get the pressure onto me tmr and if yall vote me tmr, the game ends in your perspective. why would i do this as mafia. again, vote logic contradicts here.
In post 567, bugspray wrote:
In post 554, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 417, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 407, Andante wrote:
In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

This. It's a slip from Grandpa right?? or what?? like, bugs never said in here they were gonna cc friendly, sooo I wanna get to the bottom of this
LOL. Okay calm down calm down. Let me explain now; I just wanted to see pressure/ react test on bugs. Ik Ik it was obviously fake.
If we flip bugspray and he is scum this is a mandatory flip
My pronouns are they/them and if you were playing the game as town you would never make this post seeing how I literally sussed mo in our Hood.

Truthfully I believe this is an attempt to give mo towncred after you miselim me. You and mo are scum partners
there is no towncred given because we aren't alligned. if vander is saying it will flip scum and you flip scum >>> votes/pressure on me. if you flip town >>> im still scum by other means of interaction with andante and loki. no reason for vander to play it out like that as scum.
In post 592, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 545, GrandpaMo wrote:not outing who just yet. i will see where the current pace of the game is going at till i make that choice
How can we take seriously anything you’ve said so far in this game? First you claim Andante is your neighbor who confessed to being scum, then the weird bugs’ fake fn CC thing and now this. You have done so much gambiting so far in this game, I honestly can’t tell when or what your saying is on the level or not.
ok this post actually pisses me off because you are literally taking everything out of context a it feels like you havent read anything. i will say this again... the andante thing was my rvs enterance. andante should know this.,.. andante never had a problem with it right after i explained what happened. pls look at post 186-189 and 191. me in 191 saying hi to andante. why would i do this if there is a neighbor chat SUPPOSEDLY with them. then look at the interaction wit me and anadnte right after. plus you never bring this convo up until later when the bugs thing happened. look at 206 - 224. nothing wrong here. andante even TOWNREAD me BTW! there hasn't been any hoppity hop. i am not just gonna act anti town for any reason and throw the game by not outting yk the partner when is necessary but we can't even do that because it outs the FN!

In post 601, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 567, bugspray wrote:
In post 554, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 417, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 407, Andante wrote:
In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

This. It's a slip from Grandpa right?? or what?? like, bugs never said in here they were gonna cc friendly, sooo I wanna get to the bottom of this
LOL. Okay calm down calm down. Let me explain now; I just wanted to see pressure/ react test on bugs. Ik Ik it was obviously fake.
If we flip bugspray and he is scum this is a mandatory flip
My pronouns are they/them and if you were playing the game as town you would never make this post seeing how I literally sussed mo in our Hood.

Truthfully I believe this is an attempt to give mo towncred after you miselim me. You and mo are scum partners
I could see that. I initially liked mo but he has been declining and his brief vote on me was possibly the weirdest one because it just seemed to come out of nowhere and unlike Robert there was literally no basis for it.

And now Vanders is telling me that it’s a bad reason to sr slots who sr me. :lol: That’s freaking hilarious.

I hope you weren’t trying to pocket me earlier but I have a weak gut tl on you now and I definitely could see that. I had that same initial concern with Robert when he initially claimed me and Vanders were his strongest srs but he wasn’t hard trying to drive an elim on me.

really?... out of all the reasons you choose "his brief vote on me was possibly the weirdest one" out of the all the reasons that i could have been "declining" you chose a random vote in which was to drive the game into pressure. just look at post 329 where i said:
also i agree with this. this needs more pressure

VOTE: loki
In post 614, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
I think since Andante is clearly not your neighbor, this is scum rolefishing for fn.

VOTE: GrandpaMo
ok again you vote me for something that was just utter not scum indicitive imo. you say i was just rolefishing however you should know that (i even explained this) me and andante had a past before and i was expecting everything to be fine. "i think since andante is clearly not your neighbor" wtf quote is that.... YES I OUT MY NEIGHBOR FRAME ONE /s damn. also another playstyle is to fake neighborhood btw and that was lowkey was tryna do but then andante didn't get the point but its fine because we are all in neighbors and mafia still doesn't what neighbor anadnte is in or what neighbor i am in. and both me and andante could be in hoods that are both tvt and mafia would obviously know that but it wouldn't make sense. again rvs vote... this was my enterence.. you are just over thinking this ngl. if you dont think bugs is scum anymore, then who do u think my partner is LOL
In post 616, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 205, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 202, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 192, Loki Dokie wrote:No decent player sr a player for not being a fucking mind reader, so whatever you are, that’s seriously idiotic. No offense but newsflash not getting a joke doesn’t make you scum.
I'd be pretty careful about who you are calling bad or idiotic given you have failed to understand the "nuance" of something that I would have expected someone with no mafia experience to grasp.
I'm not scum reading you for not reading minds, I thought you were being overly serious regarding what andante was doing and your push on bugspray seems overly strong.

But you might be in luck regarding my vote now because grandpa seems scummier.
yesss the scumreads pog now explain to me why im scum
This could possibly be scum distancing.
i believe that this is confirmation bias because i do that as well... where you put a scumread on me then you try to iso and stuff and you find stuff now that can make the person look scummy; either as scum or town. now i will ask u this, have you checked my previous games? i do this literally every game when someone just puts a scumread on me for no reasoning and thats what vander did. no reason to distance as scum... optimal play for scum is to become more alligned imo to fake neighborhood i think. ur buddy bugs contradicts ur logic because they think we are alligned wit the weird towny thing.
In post 626, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 624, GeorgeBailey wrote:I'm making my catch up post but I really have to say, can ya'll please stop outing your hoods D1? It singles out the TFN and only helps scum right now.
In post 611, Loki Dokie wrote:I scum between bugs and Vanders and 1 between Mo and Robert.
Mo made it obvious because no one outside that group of four has been remotely scummy.
i didnt make anything obvious. that is YOU. how you think and what your persepcitve is telling you. not other people and maybe NOT even mafia knows yet but thru this quote u make it more obvious urself so u become hypocritical.
In post 629, Andante wrote:
In post 614, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
I think since Andante is clearly not your neighbor, this is scum rolefishing for fn.

VOTE: GrandpaMo
I said that after the bugs ccing FN shenanigans... Grandpa is only trying to fish
at least andante brings up the bugs thing while loki hasnt and thats the fishy thing. pun intended. anyways, you should know andante like i already explained and clearly made it clear on what my intentions... again why would i say clearly "wrong chat" that means it wasn't ever intended for scum pt. i think you flipped ur narrative 2 or 3 times either thinking i slipped for scum or made it where i was trying to rolefish. trying to fish is DIFFERENT then me slipping as you say. and thats why i was confused thru out the whole interaction because both of you were saying two different things and hopkirk even said i was be town if i slipped or sum shit.
Sorry I'm quoting this entire thing, I'm on my phone.
I'll only respond to the first part.

If you and bugspray are mafia together, and everyone thinks you're mafia together, and you don't distance, what do you expect to happen?... you both make it to final five and people kill elsewhere again, assuming that you are not just both mafia for some reason?

If you're saying that you voting bugspray is so ridiculous in your shoes that it means that you and bugspray should be obviously never scum together, and we should all be aware of that, then why in your position as scum with bugspray would you do this thing and make yourselves obviously not partners, so when one of you dies, the other can carry?

It's possible you're town and not aware of this but it just seems like very disingenuous reasoning on your part, whether or not you are actually scum with bugspray.
that isn't what that post is talking bout?!? what is up with yall and not reading. that post is referencing me and the bugspray and the supposed slip interaction that happened wit me and andante and loki. because now guess!! bugs thinks its me + u
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Post Post #685 (isolation #90) » Tue May 11, 2021 1:36 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 678, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 674, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 238, flow trap wrote:UNVOTE: Loki Dokie
In post 229, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 215, Andante wrote:
In post 213, Vanderscamp wrote:I think grandpa is less scummy now that it seems like he was not actually serious about thinking andante was scum from his claim
lmao what did I claim?? I didn't out my neighbor, I'm pretty dang sure
Yeah, I don't really care whether you actually claimed it or not given grandpa was not serious.
VOTE: andante because you care too much about telling us that you did not claim mafia.
u come off e-2 here
In post 287, DkKoba wrote:
Vote Count 1.2
Andante
(2): GrandpaMo, Vanderscamp
Vanderscamp
(2): Loki Dokie, Andante
Hopkirk
(1): Robert M Hunter
GeorgeBailey
(1): Hopkirk
Loki Dokie
(1): bugspray

Not Voting
(2): flow trap, GeorgeBailey

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In post 319, Robert M Hunter wrote:VOTE: Loki Dokie I'm on p.7, this player is scum.
robert votes u , bugs hops of u.
In post 320, DkKoba wrote:
Vote Count 1.3
Vanderscamp
(3): Loki Dokie, Andante, bugspray
Andante
(2): GrandpaMo, Vanderscamp
Robert M Hunter
(1): flow trap
GeorgeBailey
(1): Hopkirk
Loki Dokie
(1): Robert M Hunter

Not Voting
(1): GeorgeBailey

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In post 329, GrandpaMo wrote:
also i agree with this. this needs more pressure

VOTE: loki
now i vote u right after the vc happens look at that only robert is voting u and vander was in a more hot stake than u

pls


Stop with this, it’s really upsetting me. I had three votes on me at once. If you refuse to reread the game and attempt to verify this, that’s on you not me.

It’s really pissing me off that you are wrongly accusing of something that you could easily verify if you wanted to.[/quote]

yes u did have three votes on you but all those votes pivoted and i provided proof !! please read!!
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Post Post #686 (isolation #91) » Tue May 11, 2021 1:36 pm

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before i voted u *** ^^
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Post Post #690 (isolation #92) » Tue May 11, 2021 1:44 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 646, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 329, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 255, Andante wrote:
In post 252, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 242, Andante wrote:
In post 240, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 220, GrandpaMo wrote:i thought this was more scummy then the question. is just feels like scum tryna figure out neighbors but confused because i called u my scum buddy and vander got suprsied because they know that andante isnt scum wit them xD
No, I was under the impression you were new and being honest about andante's claim and what you thought of it.
I thought this was very scummy so was aiming to investigate it further.
fair enough. still could have checked if i was new tho!

Grandpa and I have memed back in forth in another game, but when I'm catching up, I'm in dead serious mode so yeah :/ I ruined a good chance
u rlly did smh im still mad :rolling_eyes: its okie tho<3

I understand being serious when catching up, but was grandpa's comment really something that, as town, you would think "oh no, this is something I need to correct"?


I'd 100% think that. you have no idea the kinds of accusations people have been throwing at me lately in games, it's usually how I end up claiming so fast most games :/
lol ur so right. our first game sheeshhhh!
In post 252, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 242, Andante wrote:
In post 240, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 220, GrandpaMo wrote:i thought this was more scummy then the question. is just feels like scum tryna figure out neighbors but confused because i called u my scum buddy and vander got suprsied because they know that andante isnt scum wit them xD
No, I was under the impression you were new and being honest about andante's claim and what you thought of it.
I thought this was very scummy so was aiming to investigate it further.


Grandpa and I have memed back in forth in another game, but when I'm catching up, I'm in dead serious mode so yeah :/ I ruined a good chance
I understand being serious when catching up, but was grandpa's comment really something that, as town, you would think "oh no, this is something I need to correct"?
i am actually going to give vander townpings for this. this is actually towny because i had the same thought about andante and i genuinely did expect a better reaction from andante especially considering it was me LOL. and i was even gonna point out "bad rxn" but i gave andante another chance without the pressure. but having that same intuitive thought as me eh i can see why vander is in a town mindset
In post 282, Andante wrote:I've told you. I hate any number of votes on me always. it's the exact same thing... I was caught off guard for grandpa
caught offgaurd by me? smh! shame on you.

also i agree with this. this needs more pressure

VOTE: loki
Why would anyone think that a player that got rapid fire votes to e - 2 in a 9 player game “needed more pressure”? And you based your vote on me because you liked Andante’s answer which has what to do with me anyway?

I don’t believe your reason for voting me here and yes, that was the most suspicious vote on me. Vanders putting me to e - 2 is second.

Look at this pattern. You and Vanders are pushing/voting the same slots: me/Andante/bugs. That can’t be a total coincidence.
[/quote]

this literally implies that you scumread me because u were at e-2 at the time of me voting u. am i misunderstanding sum?
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Post Post #724 (isolation #93) » Tue May 11, 2021 4:34 pm

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In post 708, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 702, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 680, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 679, Vanderscamp wrote:Loki, thoughts on any of my posts I addressed to you?
I’m rethinking my reads now. I don’t like bugs’ progression on me if they really believed in their read on you. @bugs if I’m scum who is my buddy then?

I don’t believe you think I can be aligned with either Vanders or mo so I’m kind’ve of sus on that now.
I'm also interested in why bug and I "mechanically" can't both be town.
It’s based on setup spec, unless like I’ve already stated, someone has been brilliantly fooling me.

You, bugs, Robert, Mo are all claiming to be in hoods and possibly sr your neighbors. There are 4 hoods, two pure - all town, two impure - town + maf. We know you and bugs are neighbors and both Robert and Mo have also claimed this and they are both claiming to be possibly sr their neighbor. Now they haven’t confirmed it’s with each other so if that not in fact the case, then at least half my theory is wrong.

But it stands to reason in this kind of setup, that the two hoods,where neighbors sr the other are far more likely to be the impure hoods than the ones where both neighbors either tr each other or at the least don’t sr the other.

Would you agree with this or not?
i retract my scumread on my neighbor xD
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Post Post #725 (isolation #94) » Tue May 11, 2021 4:34 pm

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In post 724, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 708, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 702, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 680, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 679, Vanderscamp wrote:Loki, thoughts on any of my posts I addressed to you?
I’m rethinking my reads now. I don’t like bugs’ progression on me if they really believed in their read on you. @bugs if I’m scum who is my buddy then?

I don’t believe you think I can be aligned with either Vanders or mo so I’m kind’ve of sus on that now.
I'm also interested in why bug and I "mechanically" can't both be town.
It’s based on setup spec, unless like I’ve already stated, someone has been brilliantly fooling me.

You, bugs, Robert, Mo are all claiming to be in hoods and possibly sr your neighbors. There are 4 hoods, two pure - all town, two impure - town + maf. We know you and bugs are neighbors and both Robert and Mo have also claimed this and they are both claiming to be possibly sr their neighbor. Now they haven’t confirmed it’s with each other so if that not in fact the case, then at least half my theory is wrong.

But it stands to reason in this kind of setup, that the two hoods,where neighbors sr the other are far more likely to be the impure hoods than the ones where both neighbors either tr each other or at the least don’t sr the other.

Would you agree with this or not?
i retract my scumread on my neighbor xD
just to clarify, did so a while back
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Post Post #726 (isolation #95) » Tue May 11, 2021 4:36 pm

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In post 723, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 721, Andante wrote:oh hey!! bugspray is E-1!!! I didn't intend to do that lol but yeah, I'm down with a bugs yeet, if bugs is FN someone may wanna speak up
Bugs and Vanders are claimed neighbors so that isn’t possible and whomever is fn should obviously not claim.
ill unvote for now, just in case someone is gonna hammer

UNVOTE: bugs
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Post Post #727 (isolation #96) » Tue May 11, 2021 4:39 pm

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In post 691, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 690, GrandpaMo wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 646, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 329, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 255, Andante wrote:
In post 252, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 242, Andante wrote:
In post 240, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 220, GrandpaMo wrote:i thought this was more scummy then the question. is just feels like scum tryna figure out neighbors but confused because i called u my scum buddy and vander got suprsied because they know that andante isnt scum wit them xD
No, I was under the impression you were new and being honest about andante's claim and what you thought of it.
I thought this was very scummy so was aiming to investigate it further.
fair enough. still could have checked if i was new tho!

Grandpa and I have memed back in forth in another game, but when I'm catching up, I'm in dead serious mode so yeah :/ I ruined a good chance
u rlly did smh im still mad :rolling_eyes: its okie tho<3

I understand being serious when catching up, but was grandpa's comment really something that, as town, you would think "oh no, this is something I need to correct"?


I'd 100% think that. you have no idea the kinds of accusations people have been throwing at me lately in games, it's usually how I end up claiming so fast most games :/
lol ur so right. our first game sheeshhhh!
In post 252, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 242, Andante wrote:
In post 240, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 220, GrandpaMo wrote:i thought this was more scummy then the question. is just feels like scum tryna figure out neighbors but confused because i called u my scum buddy and vander got suprsied because they know that andante isnt scum wit them xD
No, I was under the impression you were new and being honest about andante's claim and what you thought of it.
I thought this was very scummy so was aiming to investigate it further.


Grandpa and I have memed back in forth in another game, but when I'm catching up, I'm in dead serious mode so yeah :/ I ruined a good chance
I understand being serious when catching up, but was grandpa's comment really something that, as town, you would think "oh no, this is something I need to correct"?
i am actually going to give vander townpings for this. this is actually towny because i had the same thought about andante and i genuinely did expect a better reaction from andante especially considering it was me LOL. and i was even gonna point out "bad rxn" but i gave andante another chance without the pressure. but having that same intuitive thought as me eh i can see why vander is in a town mindset
In post 282, Andante wrote:I've told you. I hate any number of votes on me always. it's the exact same thing... I was caught off guard for grandpa
caught offgaurd by me? smh! shame on you.

also i agree with this. this needs more pressure

VOTE: loki
Why would anyone think that a player that got rapid fire votes to e - 2 in a 9 player game “needed more pressure”? And you based your vote on me because you liked Andante’s answer which has what to do with me anyway?

I don’t believe your reason for voting me here and yes, that was the most suspicious vote on me. Vanders putting me to e - 2 is second.

Look at this pattern. You and Vanders are pushing/voting the same slots: me/Andante/bugs. That can’t be a total coincidence.
this literally implies that you scumread me because u were at e-2 at the time of me voting u. am i misunderstanding sum?
Yes. Because I never said that. I said you saying my slot needed pressure as the only reason you gave for voting me was bad because I had been very recently put at e - 2. Therefore it didn’t make sense.[/quote]

okay i see now how u could have meant that. i might have just misunderstood u. i apologize. because i was gonna say u were like clearly blantly lying if u were saying that u were still e-2 at that time and it just seemed like u were pushing me for it, if that makes sense.
In post 693, Loki Dokie wrote:Why would anyone say that a slot that had very recently put at e - 2 needed more pressure?

And that was your sole reason for voting me in a post you made about Andante, which was hella weird.
i never even noticed the prior votes, i only came a short few, skipped the beginning 5 pages, had an interaction wit andante , then went off to u just to see wassup wit u.
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Post Post #728 (isolation #97) » Tue May 11, 2021 4:40 pm

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In post 709, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 705, Vanderscamp wrote:Ugh, sorry for the big quote, the second time I was only responding to the most recent one.
I’ll respond here instead. I don’t believe that Andante or Hopkirk are ever scum here and Flow seems pretty damn townie. As for GB, he hasn’t done anything but his concern about possibly outing fn, isn’t currently concerning me.
so u think 2 scum is in vanders, me, you, robert, nd bugs?
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Post Post #731 (isolation #98) » Tue May 11, 2021 4:43 pm

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In post 718, Robert M Hunter wrote:Loki, Vanderscamp, bugspray, also prob town.
just looked back at this. what in the fuck makes u think that woah.
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Post Post #732 (isolation #99) » Tue May 11, 2021 4:44 pm

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In post 730, Andante wrote:I was secretly hoping someone would come in and vote bugs so we can move on
i will vote back on once i hear from bugs
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Post Post #733 (isolation #100) » Tue May 11, 2021 4:44 pm

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i want to lowkey be hammer since i never was
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Post Post #740 (isolation #101) » Tue May 11, 2021 5:33 pm

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In post 737, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 732, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 730, Andante wrote:I was secretly hoping someone would come in and vote bugs so we can move on
i will vote back on once i hear from bugs
What are you hoping to hear?
reaction being at hammer

In post 738, Andante wrote:
In post 737, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 732, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 730, Andante wrote:I was secretly hoping someone would come in and vote bugs so we can move on
i will vote back on once i hear from bugs
What are you hoping to hear?
Probably waiting for bugs to go "I'm town!!!" then believe it, then try and find someone to claim FN
nah just lowkey wanna be the hammer since i havent ever been like i said + seeing what bugs have to say
In post 739, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 738, Andante wrote:
In post 737, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 732, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 730, Andante wrote:I was secretly hoping someone would come in and vote bugs so we can move on
i will vote back on once i hear from bugs
What are you hoping to hear?
Probably waiting for bugs to go "I'm town!!!" then believe it, then try and find someone to claim FN
Bugs already did that, he must have missed it.
no, i saw it. town isn't anything then i realized he claimed neighbor wit u.

so now, i just wanna be the hammer; initial reaction also aides including giving reads etc if they flip town / scum.
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Post Post #741 (isolation #102) » Tue May 11, 2021 5:34 pm

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but if it does get to e-1 regardless of bugs posting or not, im hammering lol
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Post Post #742 (isolation #103) » Tue May 11, 2021 5:34 pm

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@loki can u vote or
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Post Post #743 (isolation #104) » Tue May 11, 2021 5:35 pm

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In post 736, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 726, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 723, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 721, Andante wrote:oh hey!! bugspray is E-1!!! I didn't intend to do that lol but yeah, I'm down with a bugs yeet, if bugs is FN someone may wanna speak up
Bugs and Vanders are claimed neighbors so that isn’t possible and whomever is fn should obviously not claim.
ill unvote for now, just in case someone is gonna hammer

UNVOTE: bugs
Still impossible for you guys to be scum partners?
im still confused at what u tryna say
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Post Post #746 (isolation #105) » Tue May 11, 2021 6:22 pm

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In post 744, Andante wrote:
In post 741, GrandpaMo wrote:but if it does get to e-1 regardless of bugs posting or not, im hammering lol
so why not vote them now?? I'm fixing to just flip my vote to you and never unvote
because i want to be hammer...how many times i have to tell you this andante. i want to hammer meaning someone else voting and me voting...

i never hammered before and i just want to finally hammer someone. so why r u getting so offended for :dead:
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Post Post #747 (isolation #106) » Tue May 11, 2021 6:24 pm

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In post 745, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 743, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 736, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 726, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 723, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 721, Andante wrote:oh hey!! bugspray is E-1!!! I didn't intend to do that lol but yeah, I'm down with a bugs yeet, if bugs is FN someone may wanna speak up
Bugs and Vanders are claimed neighbors so that isn’t possible and whomever is fn should obviously not claim.
ill unvote for now, just in case someone is gonna hammer

UNVOTE: bugs
Still impossible for you guys to be scum partners?
im still confused at what u tryna say
You've been saying often that you and bugspray are not realistic scum partners because of your vote on them.

Is this still the case?
again, did u read what i said?
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Post Post #748 (isolation #107) » Tue May 11, 2021 6:25 pm

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In post 747, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 745, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 743, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 736, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 726, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 723, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 721, Andante wrote:oh hey!! bugspray is E-1!!! I didn't intend to do that lol but yeah, I'm down with a bugs yeet, if bugs is FN someone may wanna speak up
Bugs and Vanders are claimed neighbors so that isn’t possible and whomever is fn should obviously not claim.
ill unvote for now, just in case someone is gonna hammer

UNVOTE: bugs
Still impossible for you guys to be scum partners?
im still confused at what u tryna say
You've been saying often that you and bugspray are not realistic scum partners because of your vote on them.

Is this still the case?
again, did u read what i said?
i might have missed what u said
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Post Post #749 (isolation #108) » Tue May 11, 2021 6:27 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 703, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 684, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 677, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 632, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 554, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 417, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 407, Andante wrote:
In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

This. It's a slip from Grandpa right?? or what?? like, bugs never said in here they were gonna cc friendly, sooo I wanna get to the bottom of this
LOL. Okay calm down calm down. Let me explain now; I just wanted to see pressure/ react test on bugs. Ik Ik it was obviously fake.
If we flip bugspray and he is scum this is a mandatory flip
think bout it... if i was in a hotbox wit bugs earlier on how everyone was saying i was paired wit bugs... why am i voting them rn to get the pressure onto me tmr and if yall vote me tmr, the game ends in your perspective. why would i do this as mafia. again, vote logic contradicts here.
In post 567, bugspray wrote:
In post 554, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 417, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 407, Andante wrote:
In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

This. It's a slip from Grandpa right?? or what?? like, bugs never said in here they were gonna cc friendly, sooo I wanna get to the bottom of this
LOL. Okay calm down calm down. Let me explain now; I just wanted to see pressure/ react test on bugs. Ik Ik it was obviously fake.
If we flip bugspray and he is scum this is a mandatory flip
My pronouns are they/them and if you were playing the game as town you would never make this post seeing how I literally sussed mo in our Hood.

Truthfully I believe this is an attempt to give mo towncred after you miselim me. You and mo are scum partners
there is no towncred given because we aren't alligned. if vander is saying it will flip scum and you flip scum >>> votes/pressure on me. if you flip town >>> im still scum by other means of interaction with andante and loki. no reason for vander to play it out like that as scum.
In post 592, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 545, GrandpaMo wrote:not outing who just yet. i will see where the current pace of the game is going at till i make that choice
How can we take seriously anything you’ve said so far in this game? First you claim Andante is your neighbor who confessed to being scum, then the weird bugs’ fake fn CC thing and now this. You have done so much gambiting so far in this game, I honestly can’t tell when or what your saying is on the level or not.
ok this post actually pisses me off because you are literally taking everything out of context a it feels like you havent read anything. i will say this again... the andante thing was my rvs enterance. andante should know this.,.. andante never had a problem with it right after i explained what happened. pls look at post 186-189 and 191. me in 191 saying hi to andante. why would i do this if there is a neighbor chat SUPPOSEDLY with them. then look at the interaction wit me and anadnte right after. plus you never bring this convo up until later when the bugs thing happened. look at 206 - 224. nothing wrong here. andante even TOWNREAD me BTW! there hasn't been any hoppity hop. i am not just gonna act anti town for any reason and throw the game by not outting yk the partner when is necessary but we can't even do that because it outs the FN!

In post 601, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 567, bugspray wrote:
In post 554, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 417, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 407, Andante wrote:
In post 332, GrandpaMo wrote:LOL WTF @bugs WHY DID U SAY U WANT TO CC FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR LMAO. WRONG CHAT???

This. It's a slip from Grandpa right?? or what?? like, bugs never said in here they were gonna cc friendly, sooo I wanna get to the bottom of this
LOL. Okay calm down calm down. Let me explain now; I just wanted to see pressure/ react test on bugs. Ik Ik it was obviously fake.
If we flip bugspray and he is scum this is a mandatory flip
My pronouns are they/them and if you were playing the game as town you would never make this post seeing how I literally sussed mo in our Hood.

Truthfully I believe this is an attempt to give mo towncred after you miselim me. You and mo are scum partners
I could see that. I initially liked mo but he has been declining and his brief vote on me was possibly the weirdest one because it just seemed to come out of nowhere and unlike Robert there was literally no basis for it.

And now Vanders is telling me that it’s a bad reason to sr slots who sr me. :lol: That’s freaking hilarious.

I hope you weren’t trying to pocket me earlier but I have a weak gut tl on you now and I definitely could see that. I had that same initial concern with Robert when he initially claimed me and Vanders were his strongest srs but he wasn’t hard trying to drive an elim on me.

really?... out of all the reasons you choose "his brief vote on me was possibly the weirdest one" out of the all the reasons that i could have been "declining" you chose a random vote in which was to drive the game into pressure. just look at post 329 where i said:
also i agree with this. this needs more pressure

VOTE: loki
In post 614, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
I think since Andante is clearly not your neighbor, this is scum rolefishing for fn.

VOTE: GrandpaMo
ok again you vote me for something that was just utter not scum indicitive imo. you say i was just rolefishing however you should know that (i even explained this) me and andante had a past before and i was expecting everything to be fine. "i think since andante is clearly not your neighbor" wtf quote is that.... YES I OUT MY NEIGHBOR FRAME ONE /s damn. also another playstyle is to fake neighborhood btw and that was lowkey was tryna do but then andante didn't get the point but its fine because we are all in neighbors and mafia still doesn't what neighbor anadnte is in or what neighbor i am in. and both me and andante could be in hoods that are both tvt and mafia would obviously know that but it wouldn't make sense. again rvs vote... this was my enterence.. you are just over thinking this ngl. if you dont think bugs is scum anymore, then who do u think my partner is LOL
In post 616, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 205, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 202, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 192, Loki Dokie wrote:No decent player sr a player for not being a fucking mind reader, so whatever you are, that’s seriously idiotic. No offense but newsflash not getting a joke doesn’t make you scum.
I'd be pretty careful about who you are calling bad or idiotic given you have failed to understand the "nuance" of something that I would have expected someone with no mafia experience to grasp.
I'm not scum reading you for not reading minds, I thought you were being overly serious regarding what andante was doing and your push on bugspray seems overly strong.

But you might be in luck regarding my vote now because grandpa seems scummier.
yesss the scumreads pog now explain to me why im scum
This could possibly be scum distancing.
i believe that this is confirmation bias because i do that as well... where you put a scumread on me then you try to iso and stuff and you find stuff now that can make the person look scummy; either as scum or town. now i will ask u this, have you checked my previous games? i do this literally every game when someone just puts a scumread on me for no reasoning and thats what vander did. no reason to distance as scum... optimal play for scum is to become more alligned imo to fake neighborhood i think. ur buddy bugs contradicts ur logic because they think we are alligned wit the weird towny thing.
In post 626, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 624, GeorgeBailey wrote:I'm making my catch up post but I really have to say, can ya'll please stop outing your hoods D1? It singles out the TFN and only helps scum right now.
In post 611, Loki Dokie wrote:I scum between bugs and Vanders and 1 between Mo and Robert.
Mo made it obvious because no one outside that group of four has been remotely scummy.
i didnt make anything obvious. that is YOU. how you think and what your persepcitve is telling you. not other people and maybe NOT even mafia knows yet but thru this quote u make it more obvious urself so u become hypocritical.
In post 629, Andante wrote:
In post 614, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
I think since Andante is clearly not your neighbor, this is scum rolefishing for fn.

VOTE: GrandpaMo
I said that after the bugs ccing FN shenanigans... Grandpa is only trying to fish
at least andante brings up the bugs thing while loki hasnt and thats the fishy thing. pun intended. anyways, you should know andante like i already explained and clearly made it clear on what my intentions... again why would i say clearly "wrong chat" that means it wasn't ever intended for scum pt. i think you flipped ur narrative 2 or 3 times either thinking i slipped for scum or made it where i was trying to rolefish. trying to fish is DIFFERENT then me slipping as you say. and thats why i was confused thru out the whole interaction because both of you were saying two different things and hopkirk even said i was be town if i slipped or sum shit.
Sorry I'm quoting this entire thing, I'm on my phone.
I'll only respond to the first part.

If you and bugspray are mafia together, and everyone thinks you're mafia together, and you don't distance, what do you expect to happen?... you both make it to final five and people kill elsewhere again, assuming that you are not just both mafia for some reason?

If you're saying that you voting bugspray is so ridiculous in your shoes that it means that you and bugspray should be obviously never scum together, and we should all be aware of that, then why in your position as scum with bugspray would you do this thing and make yourselves obviously not partners, so when one of you dies, the other can carry?

It's possible you're town and not aware of this but it just seems like very disingenuous reasoning on your part, whether or not you are actually scum with bugspray.
that isn't what that post is talking bout?!? what is up with yall and not reading. that post is referencing me and the bugspray and the supposed slip interaction that happened wit me and andante and loki. because now guess!! bugs thinks its me + u

I am reading.
You've said multiple times that you can't be with bugspray because of voting today.
Is that wrong?
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yes that's wrong because if u look at the full context i was talking bout that specific interaction.
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Post Post #777 (isolation #109) » Wed May 12, 2021 4:14 am

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In post 751, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 531, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 530, bugspray wrote:
In post 528, GrandpaMo wrote:this is a hard game to solve ngl. i think we have more info by day 2 or something
lazy excuse to not want to solve d1. are you scum?
what? where have i said that? don't take my words out of context. saying a game is hard to solve =/= trying to solve.

i just said we will have more info by day 2. bad question
this argument feels awkward/artifical and weirdly drops off immediately
i don't like Mo's initial comment and agree it sounds weird but the follow up from both sides feels like it's going somewhere then there's no follow up from either of them and that reads weirdly

no fucking way. i really had hope in you hopkirk. now you???? you can't fucking read either??? there was obvious follow up! in fact andante came of in to that perspective. pls look at post 541. bugs never responds to me. why am i the one that looks scum here... :facepalm:

In post 755, Hopkirk wrote:i don't like vanders starting to ask 'why do you TR hop'/testing the waters on me
In post 726, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 723, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 721, Andante wrote:oh hey!! bugspray is E-1!!! I didn't intend to do that lol but yeah, I'm down with a bugs yeet, if bugs is FN someone may wanna speak up
Bugs and Vanders are claimed neighbors so that isn’t possible and whomever is fn should obviously not claim.
ill unvote for now, just in case someone is gonna hammer

UNVOTE: bugs
why are you concerned about a hammer here?
are you seriously kidding me. have you not read anything. i guess i can't be fucking hammer... i literally have said multiple times. i literally said that the real reason is that i want to be hammer and was waiting for someone else to vote and then come in and hammer because it would have been the first time i hammer.
In post 758, bugspray wrote:this is gonna be really fucking weird when i flip green
i don't like vander's tunneling. it's anti town nai behavior which is a favorite scum activity

mo's posturing aroudn the hammer is fucked. it seems like he really wants me to die.
i think what could have happened is that he unvoted and then scum partner in pt was like what ar eyou doing we can yeet this sucker and
now he changed the story to i want to hammer not what if there is a hammer

VOTE: grandmamo
i can give less two shits about the hammer on you xD. like i said, i just wanted to be the one to hammer lmfao and i think that we flip you regardless of allignment. since i dont think my scumread would move anywhere. also look at ur phrase "i want to hammer not what if there is a hammer." arent i getting scumread for me saying what if there is a hammer??? ur point is? that phrase contradicts ur first statement. i highlighted it in bold.
In post 761, bugspray wrote:the fact my wagon stalled and nobody else is being pushed means that i'm town. if i was scum then me or my partner would actively push other slots.
no thats nai. the fact that ur wagon could have stalled is because scum never voted you and found opportunity (me not voting) to pivot onto me and use that as a viable excuse to be scumread. that is what is happening rn.
In post 769, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 741, GrandpaMo wrote:but if it does get to e-1 regardless of bugs posting or not, im hammering lol
In post 742, GrandpaMo wrote:@loki can u vote or
Why are you so eager to be the hammer? And if I put bugs at e - 1, then why are you saying you want to wait to hear what they’re saying?
In post 774, Loki Dokie wrote:That said, I definitely have reservations about voting you. If my theory is correct, I’m leaning to Mo/Vanders rn because there’s absolutely nothing “poor” about my setup spec theory. @Vanders.

But rn, Mo looks the worst to me out of the four and Robert the best. So I lean Mo/Vanders as the team and should I die, I want bragging rights if this is correct.
In post 776, Loki Dokie wrote:VOTE: GrandpaMo

I think he was very clearly trying to rolefish Andante earlier and he keeps backtracking on things. Like potentially sr his neighbor - after I gave my setup spec theory.

Mo also never explained why he thought my slot “needed pressure”. It just read like a really lazy vote to me. I still maintain his and Vanders had the most suspicious votes on me and looked the worst.
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Post Post #778 (isolation #110) » Wed May 12, 2021 4:21 am

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In post 777, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 751, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 531, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 530, bugspray wrote:
In post 528, GrandpaMo wrote:this is a hard game to solve ngl. i think we have more info by day 2 or something
lazy excuse to not want to solve d1. are you scum?
what? where have i said that? don't take my words out of context. saying a game is hard to solve =/= trying to solve.

i just said we will have more info by day 2. bad question
this argument feels awkward/artifical and weirdly drops off immediately
i don't like Mo's initial comment and agree it sounds weird but the follow up from both sides feels like it's going somewhere then there's no follow up from either of them and that reads weirdly

no fucking way. i really had hope in you hopkirk. now you???? you can't fucking read either??? there was obvious follow up! in fact andante came of in to that perspective. pls look at post 541. bugs never responds to me. why am i the one that looks scum here... :facepalm:

In post 755, Hopkirk wrote:i don't like vanders starting to ask 'why do you TR hop'/testing the waters on me
In post 726, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 723, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 721, Andante wrote:oh hey!! bugspray is E-1!!! I didn't intend to do that lol but yeah, I'm down with a bugs yeet, if bugs is FN someone may wanna speak up
Bugs and Vanders are claimed neighbors so that isn’t possible and whomever is fn should obviously not claim.
ill unvote for now, just in case someone is gonna hammer

UNVOTE: bugs
why are you concerned about a hammer here?
are you seriously kidding me. have you not read anything. i guess i can't be fucking hammer... i literally have said multiple times. i literally said that the real reason is that i want to be hammer and was waiting for someone else to vote and then come in and hammer because it would have been the first time i hammer.
In post 758, bugspray wrote:this is gonna be really fucking weird when i flip green
i don't like vander's tunneling. it's anti town nai behavior which is a favorite scum activity

mo's posturing aroudn the hammer is fucked. it seems like he really wants me to die.
i think what could have happened is that he unvoted and then scum partner in pt was like what ar eyou doing we can yeet this sucker and
now he changed the story to i want to hammer not what if there is a hammer

VOTE: grandmamo
i can give less two shits about the hammer on you xD. like i said, i just wanted to be the one to hammer lmfao and i think that we flip you regardless of allignment. since i dont think my scumread would move anywhere. also look at ur phrase "i want to hammer not what if there is a hammer." arent i getting scumread for me saying what if there is a hammer??? ur point is? that phrase contradicts ur first statement. i highlighted it in bold.
In post 761, bugspray wrote:the fact my wagon stalled and nobody else is being pushed means that i'm town. if i was scum then me or my partner would actively push other slots.
no thats nai. the fact that ur wagon could have stalled is because scum never voted you and found opportunity (me not voting) to pivot onto me and use that as a viable excuse to be scumread. that is what is happening rn.
In post 769, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 741, GrandpaMo wrote:but if it does get to e-1 regardless of bugs posting or not, im hammering lol
In post 742, GrandpaMo wrote:@loki can u vote or
Why are you so eager to be the hammer? And if I put bugs at e - 1, then why are you saying you want to wait to hear what they’re saying?
have you read the other part??? did u read nothing i said. why are you tryna make it seem that was the initial reason.
In post 774, Loki Dokie wrote:That said, I definitely have reservations about voting you. If my theory is correct, I’m leaning to Mo/Vanders rn because there’s absolutely nothing “poor” about my setup spec theory. @Vanders.

But rn, Mo looks the worst to me out of the four and Robert the best. So I lean Mo/Vanders as the team and should I die, I want bragging rights if this is correct.
"bragging rights" that's a surface level logic pair. the fact that you paired me with someone who also paired them up together (bugs) . u dont deserve bragging rights; you literally sheep bugs and go on bout paranoia and even call a mod vc wrong to prove ur logic when in fact it wasnt.
In post 776, Loki Dokie wrote:VOTE: GrandpaMo

I think he was very clearly trying to rolefish Andante earlier and he keeps backtracking on things. Like potentially sr his neighbor - after I gave my setup spec theory.

Mo also never explained why he thought my slot “needed pressure”. It just read like a really lazy vote to me. I still maintain his and Vanders had the most suspicious votes on me and looked the worst.
i explained like 4 times already. i will just explain again... "lazy vote". a random vote is a lazy vote, even tho it wasn't a real vote? r u kidding me? the fact that you get so offended by this. pressure can mean multiple things; pressure doesn't mean like oh everyone is voting you and you have pressure and then they unvote and i vote you.. i just wanted to see how that goes. i also explained that i never saw the prior page votes and assumed u were good. but that shouldn't a problem. this whole scumcase on me shouldn't be because i randomly voted u. and the fact that you call me out with rolefishing of andante SOMEONE WHO I CLEARLY MEME WITH and NOT the case of the bugs "slip" narrative that you + andante pushed just proves how skewed ur mindset is onto pushing me.

honestly i gave you the benefit of the doubt on being misguided town.

but now i can see how you could be scum with reasoning/logic that is weak af.
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Post Post #779 (isolation #111) » Wed May 12, 2021 4:23 am

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In post 758, bugspray wrote:this is gonna be really fucking weird when i flip green
i don't like vander's tunneling. it's anti town nai behavior which is a favorite scum activity

mo's posturing aroudn the hammer is fucked. it seems like he really wants me to die. i think what could have happened is that he unvoted and then scum partner in pt was like what ar eyou doing we can yeet this sucker and now he changed the story to i want to hammer not what if there is a hammer
VOTE: grandmamo
see. this was the reaction that should have came out.

LOL.

like holy shit.
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Post Post #780 (isolation #112) » Wed May 12, 2021 4:25 am

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don't be apologizing and shit once i flip green.

and u will realize who my partner is lmfao

fwiw any good/expierenced player can tell this is an obvious scum pivot.

town a stalls hammer... scum finds excuse for town a... scum then pivots to town a...
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Post Post #785 (isolation #113) » Wed May 12, 2021 5:17 am

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In post 783, bugspray wrote:
In post 780, GrandpaMo wrote:don't be apologizing and shit once i flip green.

and u will realize who my partner is lmfao

fwiw any good/expierenced player can tell this is an obvious scum pivot.

town a stalls hammer... scum finds excuse for town a... scum then pivots to town a...
this post is incomprehensible
how hard is it for you to read.

once i flip green, don't be going back and saying sorry, my partner will be more clear.

partner = neighbor partner

i gave the scumpivot scenerio in baby steps
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Post Post #786 (isolation #114) » Wed May 12, 2021 5:17 am

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In post 781, bugspray wrote:
In post 774, Loki Dokie wrote:, I want bragging rights if this is correct.
I said this earlier
i literally pointed that out. lmfao. i literally said loki just sheeped ur read
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Post Post #788 (isolation #115) » Wed May 12, 2021 5:54 am

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VOTE: bugs
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Post Post #789 (isolation #116) » Wed May 12, 2021 5:55 am

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In post 787, Andante wrote:can we just lim bugs already?

dont u see this pivot as scum LOL

like shit im willing to vote now since "i cant be the hammer" for whatever reason :roll: :roll:
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Post Post #792 (isolation #117) » Wed May 12, 2021 6:55 am

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In post 790, bugspray wrote:If it's not mo and vand it could be Loki hop
r u town
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Post Post #853 (isolation #118) » Wed May 12, 2021 10:45 am

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can u fucking hammer already @loki???

u litearlly changed ur reads like 8 times now and have said i was town at first and bugs was scum then u said it was me and vanders and now u are saying bugs is scum .

idfk but can u hammer ? because everyone literally got on to me bout not hammering and i dont like how u got off the hook for that but i was bashed about it and its honestly annoying since like i dont think i have done anything rlly scummy. i have replied to everyone, gave my defense and direction while ppl still somehow seem to ignore everything i say. thats why im not even trying that much anymore this game. and probably won't go into my analytical phase anytime soon
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Post Post #854 (isolation #119) » Wed May 12, 2021 10:48 am

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Spoiler:
In post 805, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 777, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 751, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 531, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 530, bugspray wrote:
In post 528, GrandpaMo wrote:this is a hard game to solve ngl. i think we have more info by day 2 or something
lazy excuse to not want to solve d1. are you scum?
what? where have i said that? don't take my words out of context. saying a game is hard to solve =/= trying to solve.

i just said we will have more info by day 2. bad question
this argument feels awkward/artifical and weirdly drops off immediately
i don't like Mo's initial comment and agree it sounds weird but the follow up from both sides feels like it's going somewhere then there's no follow up from either of them and that reads weirdly

no fucking way. i really had hope in you hopkirk. now you???? you can't fucking read either??? there was obvious follow up! in fact andante came of in to that perspective. pls look at post 541. bugs never responds to me. why am i the one that looks scum here... :facepalm:

In post 755, Hopkirk wrote:i don't like vanders starting to ask 'why do you TR hop'/testing the waters on me
In post 726, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 723, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 721, Andante wrote:oh hey!! bugspray is E-1!!! I didn't intend to do that lol but yeah, I'm down with a bugs yeet, if bugs is FN someone may wanna speak up
Bugs and Vanders are claimed neighbors so that isn’t possible and whomever is fn should obviously not claim.
ill unvote for now, just in case someone is gonna hammer

UNVOTE: bugs
why are you concerned about a hammer here?
are you seriously kidding me. have you not read anything. i guess i can't be fucking hammer... i literally have said multiple times. i literally said that the real reason is that i want to be hammer and was waiting for someone else to vote and then come in and hammer because it would have been the first time i hammer.
In post 758, bugspray wrote:this is gonna be really fucking weird when i flip green
i don't like vander's tunneling. it's anti town nai behavior which is a favorite scum activity

mo's posturing aroudn the hammer is fucked. it seems like he really wants me to die.
i think what could have happened is that he unvoted and then scum partner in pt was like what ar eyou doing we can yeet this sucker and
now he changed the story to i want to hammer not what if there is a hammer

VOTE: grandmamo
i can give less two shits about the hammer on you xD. like i said, i just wanted to be the one to hammer lmfao and i think that we flip you regardless of allignment. since i dont think my scumread would move anywhere. also look at ur phrase "i want to hammer not what if there is a hammer." arent i getting scumread for me saying what if there is a hammer??? ur point is? that phrase contradicts ur first statement. i highlighted it in bold.
In post 761, bugspray wrote:the fact my wagon stalled and nobody else is being pushed means that i'm town. if i was scum then me or my partner would actively push other slots.
no thats nai. the fact that ur wagon could have stalled is because scum never voted you and found opportunity (me not voting) to pivot onto me and use that as a viable excuse to be scumread. that is what is happening rn.
In post 769, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 741, GrandpaMo wrote:but if it does get to e-1 regardless of bugs posting or not, im hammering lol
In post 742, GrandpaMo wrote:@loki can u vote or
Why are you so eager to be the hammer? And if I put bugs at e - 1, then why are you saying you want to wait to hear what they’re saying?
In post 774, Loki Dokie wrote:That said, I definitely have reservations about voting you. If my theory is correct, I’m leaning to Mo/Vanders rn because there’s absolutely nothing “poor” about my setup spec theory. @Vanders.

But rn, Mo looks the worst to me out of the four and Robert the best. So I lean Mo/Vanders as the team and should I die, I want bragging rights if this is correct.
In post 776, Loki Dokie wrote:VOTE: GrandpaMo

I think he was very clearly trying to rolefish Andante earlier and he keeps backtracking on things. Like potentially sr his neighbor - after I gave my setup spec theory.

Mo also never explained why he thought my slot “needed pressure”. It just read like a really lazy vote to me. I still maintain his and Vanders had the most suspicious votes on me and looked the worst.


Why did you quote all of this?[/quote]

because i accidently submitted. why do u tihnk i didnt reply and why do u think that was the first message then me replying agian with the updated info.


u haven't answered anything in there but no ur still scumcasing me and again providing no info.

if this flips town, ur probably scum honestly.
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Post Post #858 (isolation #120) » Wed May 12, 2021 10:58 am

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In post 816, Loki Dokie wrote:You should never ever self-hammer as town. That’s horrible gameplay.
In post 818, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 817, flow trap wrote:I'm TLing GM
Can you tell me why? I really hope bugs is scum because it’s totally anti-town to self-hammer.
In post 856, Hopkirk wrote:did you just get online GrandpaMo or were you around when it looked like bug's self hammered?
just got online
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Post Post #859 (isolation #121) » Wed May 12, 2021 10:59 am

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In post 857, bugspray wrote:WAIT IM NOT HAMMERED?
yea i just looked back and everyone thought u were hammered lol
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Post Post #861 (isolation #122) » Wed May 12, 2021 10:59 am

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In post 860, bugspray wrote:VOTE: grandpamo
cant belive i just fooled myself
i think ur more town now tho.
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Post Post #865 (isolation #123) » Wed May 12, 2021 11:02 am

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In post 863, Hopkirk wrote:do you think it was
- faked by scum!bugs to look town
- scumbugs trying to leave the game
or something else?

nvm i actually didnt think of this. ur town for having that mindset

pedit - why were you asking for a hammer if it's more town now

i thought the reaction geninune. reading back, they thought they were hammered and it was like "haha yall are gonna see im gonna flip town and now hopefully my legacy is right"

but i didnt think of possibly faking it~ which is like 200iq
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Post Post #866 (isolation #124) » Wed May 12, 2021 11:03 am

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In post 864, bugspray wrote:
In post 861, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 860, bugspray wrote:VOTE: grandpamo
cant belive i just fooled myself
i think ur more town now tho.
what did you think of me before
i thought u were scum wit loki.
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Post Post #867 (isolation #125) » Wed May 12, 2021 11:04 am

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idk could still be the case, just knowing what kirk said,

and this is where im starting get paranoid
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Post Post #869 (isolation #126) » Wed May 12, 2021 11:19 am

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In post 868, flow trap wrote:I was thinking Bugs was scum, but now I'm not too sure

It's easy to get into a "what if this is an exception" mindset on a scumread doing a widely town thing, so I think I'll give them the benefit of the doubt
thats what i have been doing to loki for like half of the game lmao
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Post Post #878 (isolation #127) » Wed May 12, 2021 12:38 pm

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In post 871, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 853, GrandpaMo wrote:can u fucking hammer already @loki???

u litearlly changed ur reads like 8 times now and have said i was town at first and bugs was scum then u said it was me and vanders and now u are saying bugs is scum .

idfk but can u hammer ? because everyone literally got on to me bout not hammering and i dont like how u got off the hook for that but i was bashed about it and its honestly annoying since like i dont think i have done anything rlly scummy. i have replied to everyone, gave my defense and direction while ppl still somehow seem to ignore everything i say. thats why im not even trying that much anymore this game. and probably won't go into my analytical phase anytime soon
In post 854, GrandpaMo wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 805, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 777, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 751, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 531, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 530, bugspray wrote:
In post 528, GrandpaMo wrote:this is a hard game to solve ngl. i think we have more info by day 2 or something
lazy excuse to not want to solve d1. are you scum?
what? where have i said that? don't take my words out of context. saying a game is hard to solve =/= trying to solve.

i just said we will have more info by day 2. bad question
this argument feels awkward/artifical and weirdly drops off immediately
i don't like Mo's initial comment and agree it sounds weird but the follow up from both sides feels like it's going somewhere then there's no follow up from either of them and that reads weirdly

no fucking way. i really had hope in you hopkirk. now you???? you can't fucking read either??? there was obvious follow up! in fact andante came of in to that perspective. pls look at post 541. bugs never responds to me. why am i the one that looks scum here... :facepalm:

In post 755, Hopkirk wrote:i don't like vanders starting to ask 'why do you TR hop'/testing the waters on me
In post 726, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 723, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 721, Andante wrote:oh hey!! bugspray is E-1!!! I didn't intend to do that lol but yeah, I'm down with a bugs yeet, if bugs is FN someone may wanna speak up
Bugs and Vanders are claimed neighbors so that isn’t possible and whomever is fn should obviously not claim.
ill unvote for now, just in case someone is gonna hammer

UNVOTE: bugs
why are you concerned about a hammer here?
are you seriously kidding me. have you not read anything. i guess i can't be fucking hammer... i literally have said multiple times. i literally said that the real reason is that i want to be hammer and was waiting for someone else to vote and then come in and hammer because it would have been the first time i hammer.
In post 758, bugspray wrote:this is gonna be really fucking weird when i flip green
i don't like vander's tunneling. it's anti town nai behavior which is a favorite scum activity

mo's posturing aroudn the hammer is fucked. it seems like he really wants me to die.
i think what could have happened is that he unvoted and then scum partner in pt was like what ar eyou doing we can yeet this sucker and
now he changed the story to i want to hammer not what if there is a hammer

VOTE: grandmamo
i can give less two shits about the hammer on you xD. like i said, i just wanted to be the one to hammer lmfao and i think that we flip you regardless of allignment. since i dont think my scumread would move anywhere. also look at ur phrase "i want to hammer not what if there is a hammer." arent i getting scumread for me saying what if there is a hammer??? ur point is? that phrase contradicts ur first statement. i highlighted it in bold.
In post 761, bugspray wrote:the fact my wagon stalled and nobody else is being pushed means that i'm town. if i was scum then me or my partner would actively push other slots.
no thats nai. the fact that ur wagon could have stalled is because scum never voted you and found opportunity (me not voting) to pivot onto me and use that as a viable excuse to be scumread. that is what is happening rn.
In post 769, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 741, GrandpaMo wrote:but if it does get to e-1 regardless of bugs posting or not, im hammering lol
In post 742, GrandpaMo wrote:@loki can u vote or
Why are you so eager to be the hammer? And if I put bugs at e - 1, then why are you saying you want to wait to hear what they’re saying?
In post 774, Loki Dokie wrote:That said, I definitely have reservations about voting you. If my theory is correct, I’m leaning to Mo/Vanders rn because there’s absolutely nothing “poor” about my setup spec theory. @Vanders.

But rn, Mo looks the worst to me out of the four and Robert the best. So I lean Mo/Vanders as the team and should I die, I want bragging rights if this is correct.
In post 776, Loki Dokie wrote:VOTE: GrandpaMo

I think he was very clearly trying to rolefish Andante earlier and he keeps backtracking on things. Like potentially sr his neighbor - after I gave my setup spec theory.

Mo also never explained why he thought my slot “needed pressure”. It just read like a really lazy vote to me. I still maintain his and Vanders had the most suspicious votes on me and looked the worst.


Why did you quote all of this?
because i accidently submitted. why do u tihnk i didnt reply and why do u think that was the first message then me replying agian with the updated info.


u haven't answered anything in there but no ur still scumcasing me and again providing no info.

if this flips town, ur probably scum honestly.

You’re screaming at me to hammer than saying if they flip town, I’m scum? What kind of townie ever makes these two posts back to back? Sorry but no, you’re blatantly obvious attempts to try to miselim won’t work.[/quote]

now u wanna respond after i tell u to LOL.

and yes that is my logic. i think there is 1 scum in between u. so what is ur point? and wdym what townie... that is literally logic based on reasoning that i have provided unlike you. "miselim" when i didn't even want to hammer and u call me out for not hammering then u go on to me about voting. just pls. STICK WIT A STORY
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In post 874, Loki Dokie wrote:I don’t know if what is happening between bugs and Mo is some insane scum theatre or if bugs is actually town but I have never ever even once seen a game, where a player demanded I hammer and in the very next post claim that if the slot they wanted me to hammer flipped town, I’m probably scum. What townie in the history of mafia thinks like that?

thats a regular claim... i wasn't even pertaining to that. if you read the full post... i was getting frustrated at the fact that everyone points me out for not hammering (including u i believe) then u switch up ur reads for like the 4th or 5th time, and don't even vote but stay on me for whatever reason.
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Post Post #880 (isolation #129) » Wed May 12, 2021 12:41 pm

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In post 876, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 875, bugspray wrote:None. mo!caught!scum needs more votes and then I want the n1 kill that I earned so I can fuck around in the dead pt
As long as I’m alive in this game, I’m never unvoting them.
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Post Post #881 (isolation #130) » Wed May 12, 2021 12:44 pm

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i really don't want to get my emotional intelligence mixed up in my reads. (bias) so i will ignore you for now

@hopkirk what r ur reads so far?
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Post Post #885 (isolation #131) » Wed May 12, 2021 12:55 pm

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In post 769, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 741, GrandpaMo wrote:but if it does get to e-1 regardless of bugs posting or not, im hammering lol
In post 742, GrandpaMo wrote:@loki can u vote or
Why are you so eager to be the hammer? And if I put bugs at e - 1, then why are you saying you want to wait to hear what they’re saying?
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Post Post #886 (isolation #132) » Wed May 12, 2021 12:58 pm

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In post 884, Andante wrote:I just want the flip....

thats what im saying. and been wanting but flip everything i say out of context.

what do u feel bout other ppl? what r ur reads?
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Post Post #888 (isolation #133) » Wed May 12, 2021 12:59 pm

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In post 883, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 880, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 876, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 875, bugspray wrote:None. mo!caught!scum needs more votes and then I want the n1 kill that I earned so I can fuck around in the dead pt
As long as I’m alive in this game, I’m never unvoting them.
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Why should I think you’re town especially now after those two back to back posts I just referenced. You’re acting scummy af, so no nothing remotely antitown about wanting to vote the slot that is being off the charts scummy. I’m still not sure whether or not bugs is your buddy but they are more likely to be town than you, which is why with over a week left, why would I want to switch my vote - especially when my strongest sr is demanding I hammer?

Is there a possibility that you’re off the charts uberscummy town, sure but I really don’t think so.

ur just using confimration bias xD the fact that u think me and bugs are ever paired here is actually ridiculous. why would i ever want the pressure on to me the next day if i know i can direct the vote onto vanderrs lol
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Post Post #889 (isolation #134) » Wed May 12, 2021 1:01 pm

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In post 887, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 885, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 769, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 741, GrandpaMo wrote:but if it does get to e-1 regardless of bugs posting or not, im hammering lol
In post 742, GrandpaMo wrote:@loki can u vote or
Why are you so eager to be the hammer? And if I put bugs at e - 1, then why are you saying you want to wait to hear what they’re saying?
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What were you wanting to hear and now you yelled at me to hammer them. It’s nowhere near deadline, so why would I switch my vote when I feel far more confident on you flipping scum than bugs?
because ur inconsistent with ur reads. u say im more scum than bugs one time and you even sheep bugs saying its me and vander then onto the recent post (the reason why i even made that post for u to hammer) where u literally said that you thought bugs was scum.

so why not vote for them.

i was just eager for a flip to happen already.
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Post Post #893 (isolation #135) » Wed May 12, 2021 1:10 pm

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In post 891, Loki Dokie wrote:The fact that you’re not even entertaining the possibility that I’m deathtunnelled town instead of scum when it’s beyond obvious I’m town here, also isn’t helping.

But I would be seriously shocked if your town with the way you’ve been treating my slot and I just think your reads on both me and bugs don’t read genuine to me.

i have literally said that :sob:

why do u tihnk im ingorning u or trying to.

its a pointless convo that won't get us anywhere.

i will be playing more passive until someone else explains their trajectory.
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Post Post #895 (isolation #136) » Wed May 12, 2021 1:14 pm

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In post 894, Andante wrote:
In post 892, Loki Dokie wrote:nowhere near deadline and you’re currently my strongest sr.
It's already hammered??
did u not pay attention to anything at all ....
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Post Post #914 (isolation #137) » Wed May 12, 2021 2:07 pm

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In post 901, Andante wrote:uhh this VC?? bugs self hammered... like I thought day was hammered long ago?
no. they pivoted.

there was only 4 votes.

what is wrong wit yall and saying vcs are wrong
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Post Post #915 (isolation #138) » Wed May 12, 2021 2:07 pm

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In post 910, Andante wrote:
In post 908, bugspray wrote:oh fuck is the vc maybe wrong?
I don't think you were E1 when you selfed
they never were...
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Post Post #916 (isolation #139) » Wed May 12, 2021 2:09 pm

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In post 889, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 887, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 885, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 769, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 741, GrandpaMo wrote:but if it does get to e-1 regardless of bugs posting or not, im hammering lol
In post 742, GrandpaMo wrote:@loki can u vote or
Why are you so eager to be the hammer? And if I put bugs at e - 1, then why are you saying you want to wait to hear what they’re saying?
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What were you wanting to hear and now you yelled at me to hammer them. It’s nowhere near deadline, so why would I switch my vote when I feel far more confident on you flipping scum than bugs?
because ur inconsistent with ur reads. u say im more scum than bugs one time and you even sheep bugs saying its me and vander then onto the recent post (the reason why i even made that post for u to hammer) where u literally said that you thought bugs was scum.

so why not vote for them.

i was just eager for a flip to happen already.
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In post 893, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 891, Loki Dokie wrote:The fact that you’re not even entertaining the possibility that I’m deathtunnelled town instead of scum when it’s beyond obvious I’m town here, also isn’t helping.

But I would be seriously shocked if your town with the way you’ve been treating my slot and I just think your reads on both me and bugs don’t read genuine to me.

i have literally said that :sob:

why do u tihnk im ingorning u or trying to.

its a pointless convo that won't get us anywhere.

i will be playing more passive until someone else explains their trajectory.

Why did you demand I hammer, then say if bugs flips town, I’m probably scum?
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Post Post #926 (isolation #140) » Wed May 12, 2021 8:48 pm

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In post 924, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 921, Andante wrote:bugs tried to self for towncred... yeah no. I wanna lim bugs then deal withit
I’m not sure if either is town and if we’re actually looking at a bus. Their interactions have been really strange, which is why I think it could possibly be scum theatre.
why would i risk bussing. especxially when u called me out for talking here instead of scum pt and supposedly a scum pt? idfk but why would i risk voting bugs out in ur mind my scum partner cuz once bugs flip scum, the pressure will be on me the next day. why as scum would i bus nd put myself in a predicitment where on day 1 i get my mafia partner out and boom on day 2 yall vote me and town easily wins?

@andante thinking bout it... u should scumread me if bugs flip scum because then it would allign wit ur logic.
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Post Post #927 (isolation #141) » Wed May 12, 2021 8:49 pm

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In post 918, Loki Dokie wrote:@bugs, @Mo, who is scum and if you say me or anyone I strongly tr, my vote’s going on you.
this is either conformation bias from misguided town or outright scum trying to narrow votepool.
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Post Post #928 (isolation #142) » Wed May 12, 2021 8:53 pm

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In post 922, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 920, bugspray wrote:
In post 918, Loki Dokie wrote:if you say me or anyone I strongly tr, my vote’s going on you.
pretty gross and manipulative. a good post to make if mo and i are both somehow town
Is that directed to me or Mo? I can’t trust anyone is isn’t reading me correctly. That much should be obvious. If either or both of you are lying to me then I can’t take whomever is seriously.

Fact is that every single time I voted Mo, you put me in your PoE? Why? And now he’s saying to me that he’s going to (or was?) going to push me if you flip town. I need to know which one of you - if either - is approaching my slot in good faith and until I’m clear on that I’ll probably just sheep my strongest trs who I can have confidence aren’t lying to me.

What isn’t making sense to me is that you put two people in your PoE - one who actually and I’m wondering now maybe stupidly? tried to save you (me) and the other who unvoted you (Hopkirk).

See I can’t tell which of you - if either - is actually town - and if not are somehow trying to set me up. You and Mo are the only ones who I feel has possibly trying to do that to me and I don’t understand why town would do that. So that’s where I’m at right now with both of you.
the problem is that with is that you have this playstyle of being offended when someone scumreads and you get in a state of paranoia where you are always feeling that you are being set up in which trust me i would to if i was in ur position. and that is what is throwing me off because like i could easily townread u for that right? but idk if you are doing stuff like this to keep throwing town in a disarray because like i gave you the benefit of the doubt multiple times with ur inconsistency and stuff. and you are using surface level logic to get your associations nd etc. like have you ever looked at this for individual reads and not just pairings and interactions?

i might have to iso ur other games later and probably give analysis and see if you are act like this when u are town; i think im ready to take this game seriously.
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Post Post #940 (isolation #143) » Wed May 12, 2021 9:33 pm

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In post 935, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 888, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 883, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 880, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 876, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 875, bugspray wrote:None. mo!caught!scum needs more votes and then I want the n1 kill that I earned so I can fuck around in the dead pt
As long as I’m alive in this game, I’m never unvoting them.
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Why should I think you’re town especially now after those two back to back posts I just referenced. You’re acting scummy af, so no nothing remotely antitown about wanting to vote the slot that is being off the charts scummy. I’m still not sure whether or not bugs is your buddy but they are more likely to be town than you, which is why with over a week left, why would I want to switch my vote - especially when my strongest sr is demanding I hammer?

Is there a possibility that you’re off the charts uberscummy town, sure but I really don’t think so.

ur just using confimration bias xD the fact that u think me and bugs are ever paired here is actually ridiculous. why would i ever want the pressure on to me the next day if i know i can direct the vote onto vanderrs lol
As long as you keep making these posts it's going to be impossible for me to not scumread you.

You can't genuinely simultaneously argue that you are both going to receive a lot of pressure for doing the same thing that you are also saying makes it ridiculous for someone to think you are scum.
no. that wasn't the point; its just a weird thing here lemme quote it for u since you missed out the whole interaction.
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Post Post #946 (isolation #144) » Wed May 12, 2021 9:40 pm

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this is the interaction that happened that you completely ignored. look back at pages 18-21 for full details.
i quoted everything in chronological order and i want you to give me ur opinion on it.


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Post Post #948 (isolation #145) » Wed May 12, 2021 9:43 pm

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In post 942, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 927, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 918, Loki Dokie wrote:@bugs, @Mo, who is scum and if you say me or anyone I strongly tr, my vote’s going on you.
this is either conformation bias from misguided town or outright scum trying to narrow votepool.
I’d wish I could vote both of you. And I’m really sick of you continuing to misrep my posts. Are you intentionally ignoring what I’ve saying because I think I’ve made my point abundantly clear. so you’re either scum or aren’t reading my posts? Which is it?
no...i think im starting to understand you.


fwiw i think you are just town who is just confused andwants to gamesolve

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Post Post #950 (isolation #146) » Wed May 12, 2021 9:44 pm

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In post 946, GrandpaMo wrote:this is the interaction that happened that you completely ignored. look back at pages 18-21 for full details.
i quoted everything in chronological order and i want you to give me ur opinion on it.


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this is meant for @vanders

vanders might be scum here.

i love how you call me town but then change the narrative as you see both andante / loki and even bugs themselves do it.

andante and loki push the narrative that i could be me and you vander; then you could be scum trying to distance yourself.

VOTE: vanders

since no one has yet. i want to explore this for some times (unless a hammer is needed for bugs)
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Post Post #951 (isolation #147) » Wed May 12, 2021 9:45 pm

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In post 949, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 936, Hopkirk wrote:@vanders - where she shifted to sounding genuine to you (i was getting that impression pretty early on)

if i provably can't be scum because of a meta tell that i'm aware of and refuse to change then i'd be modkilled. i can't point out why i'm 100% town, but there's also no reason i have to for what i'm saying to be valid

someone asked about reads
Lokie/Andante- townreads
Flow - lesser townread that i should revisit because i can't remember specific posts i can point to that explain it. kind of under the radar recently
Rob/GB - null
Mo - scumreading
Vanders/Bugs - i'm trying to sort this. before the hammer stuff i scumread both but couldn't both be scum. need to look more at
My issue is irrespective of alignment is that both of them have been transparently manipulate but bugs especially so. It’s seriously making me not want to be in this game. I’m just really fucking sick of it.

Bugs/Mo
see i could say the same thing. i felt as tho no one has been reading my posts at all and it frustrated me honestly. but thats cool; i will just put u on the side for now
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Post Post #954 (isolation #148) » Wed May 12, 2021 9:48 pm

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In post 952, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 937, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 917, Loki Dokie wrote:UNVOTE:

I don’t trust either bugs or Mo.
I want to kill them both regardless of what the first one flips.
+1

I never actually thought I’d ever be mindmelding with you on anything in this game.
the problem with this loki is that vanders never really expressed that.

vanders just probably looked at what happened, glimpse over it and sheeped both of u and andante and is now trying to distance themselves from me because they were being alligned by bugs and you at one point
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Post Post #955 (isolation #149) » Wed May 12, 2021 9:49 pm

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In post 953, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 405, Andante wrote:OOOHHH WAIT. I wanna talk about the slip I saw earlier
oh yeah, this was a pretty good post/following chain of posts so i can follow the read Vanders
yea page 17-20** sorry
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Post Post #956 (isolation #150) » Wed May 12, 2021 9:50 pm

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In post 954, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 952, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 937, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 917, Loki Dokie wrote:UNVOTE:

I don’t trust either bugs or Mo.
I want to kill them both regardless of what the first one flips.
+1

I never actually thought I’d ever be mindmelding with you on anything in this game.
the problem with this loki is that vanders never really expressed that.

vanders just probably looked at what happened, glimpse over it and sheeped both of u and andante and is now trying to distance themselves from me because they were being alligned by bugs and you at one point
i mean seen as scum wit me**
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Post Post #959 (isolation #151) » Wed May 12, 2021 9:53 pm

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there was two posts i did like from vanders - i forgot which exact but one was regarding andante's reaction to what i had said and it coming from the same town mindset as i had; intuitive thought.

honestly i just want the day to end honestly.

im confused and lost and dk who scum is anymore
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Post Post #960 (isolation #152) » Wed May 12, 2021 9:53 pm

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In post 957, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 939, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 936, Hopkirk wrote:@vanders - where she shifted to sounding genuine to you (i was getting that impression pretty early on)

if i provably can't be scum because of a meta tell that i'm aware of and refuse to change then i'd be modkilled. i can't point out why i'm 100% town, but there's also no reason i have to for what i'm saying to be valid

someone asked about reads
Lokie/Andante- townreads
Flow - lesser townread that i should revisit because i can't remember specific posts i can point to that explain it. kind of under the radar recently
Rob/GB - null
Mo - scumreading
Vanders/Bugs - i'm trying to sort this. before the hammer stuff i scumread both but couldn't both be scum. need to look more at
Andante started sounding genuine at #405.


I'm assuming meta tells only apply to things that have no in-game relevance, right?
And that’s why Mo’s response about my possibly trying to “narrow the voting pool” or whatever bs is so gross. I said trs - plural because town usually mindmelds on obvious town, so my thinking was that if either bugs or Mo said I tr you but the slot’s you’re extremely confidently tr are scum, I’d know I was being pocketed and I didn’t want to be fooled by that.
did you not see the first part of what i said in that quote? or r u tryna make me look bad again? :/
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Post Post #961 (isolation #153) » Wed May 12, 2021 9:56 pm

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In post 927, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 918, Loki Dokie wrote:@bugs, @Mo, who is scum and if you say me or anyone I strongly tr, my vote’s going on you.
this is either conformation bias from misguided town or outright scum trying to narrow votepool.
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Post Post #971 (isolation #154) » Wed May 12, 2021 11:02 pm

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In post 970, Loki Dokie wrote:I’m also not saying it’s impossible for Vanders or you - for that matter, to be scum but neither of you is making me want to replace out.

@Mo
so like are you saying bugs is more scum than me now?
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Post Post #976 (isolation #155) » Thu May 13, 2021 5:30 am

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In post 975, bugspray wrote:I think we have.
This is my first self hammer
hopkirk says otherwise
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Post Post #977 (isolation #156) » Thu May 13, 2021 5:31 am

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In post 973, bugspray wrote:hello I am prodge posting to say that we should eliminate mo because the slot is scum
VOTE: mo
honestly the game i was playing, scum never contributed towards eod and just acted like they didn't care enough to contribute. this could be the case rn but could be confirmation bias
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Post Post #999 (isolation #157) » Sat May 15, 2021 4:27 pm

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i think town is losing this game. this is obviously a wifom kill. i would never ever kill andante especially considering i wanted to play wit her :/

im neighbors with robert.
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Post Post #1000 (isolation #158) » Sat May 15, 2021 4:28 pm

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in the neighbor chat, i gave out my thoughts however robert didnt comment on anyhting. they scumread you loki and thought u were more scum than vanders. thats where i agreeed ( this was some time ago) and then called me town because of my emotional response... but continues to vote me on here.
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Post Post #1001 (isolation #159) » Sat May 15, 2021 4:33 pm

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honestly i dont know who mafia is...

the only person i might think of is vanders. just for the weird switch up. they called me town then you say it could be me and bugs s/s when you started sheeping andante/loki.

also. how did andante flip pr??? i thought they were neighbors wit u loki? who r u partners with then??
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Post Post #1002 (isolation #160) » Sat May 15, 2021 4:33 pm

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i retracted my scumread on loki... loki MIGHT be town after all. i really want to know who u are paired up wit here..
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Post Post #1003 (isolation #161) » Sat May 15, 2021 4:36 pm

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i think this is the most optimal gameplay... we all out our hoods sicne the pr is dead. this gives us better insight especially considering there is 1 scum in 2 hoods and 2 town in the other 2.

I am in a hood with Robert.

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Post Post #1004 (isolation #162) » Sat May 15, 2021 4:36 pm

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i just checked the neighbor chat... they claimed to be bad at mafia? even tho came from EM and have expierence ... they have been always playing the newbie card. they could be newb.
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Post Post #1014 (isolation #163) » Sat May 15, 2021 7:11 pm

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In post 1006, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 1001, GrandpaMo wrote:honestly i dont know who mafia is...

the only person i might think of is vanders. just for the weird switch up. they called me town then you say it could be me and bugs s/s when you started sheeping andante/loki.

also. how did andante flip pr??? i thought they were neighbors wit u loki? who r u partners with then??
Why would you think that? And if you’re looking for me to claim my hood partner, then I will do so in the event of a mass claim.

I thought that beacuse yall both seemed alligned pushed me day 1 lol.

and yea can we get a mass claim pls? it will really help town. outting neihgbors shouldnt be a problem since pr is dead unless some other pr is in the game
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Post Post #1015 (isolation #164) » Sat May 15, 2021 7:15 pm

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In post 1011, Loki Dokie wrote:UNVOTE:

For now. If Mo is on the level with asking me to out my neighbor, then if he’s scum with Flow, he should already know this, so the question is - is Mo feigning ignorance or does he genuinely not know who my neighbor actually is?
im confused. im not too smart for this neighbor talk.

all i know is that we have the info that there is 1 scum and 1 town in 2 hoods and 2 town in the other 2 hoods.. so outting neighbors is optimal here.

idk why i would be acting dumb just to get townread...

i genuinely want to know because i thought u and andante were alligned hence why i said that post of me knowing the partners and andante following up wit yea they do too. i rlly thought yall were obvious partners.
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Post Post #1016 (isolation #165) » Sat May 15, 2021 7:18 pm

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In post 1005, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 999, GrandpaMo wrote:i think town is losing this game. this is obviously a wifom kill. i would never ever kill andante especially considering i wanted to play wit her :/

im neighbors with robert.
Andante’s solve was you and Flow and if Flow is scum, I can see associatives in that last post of his.

Also, you saying at one point, I’d be scum if bugs was town, sounded kind’ve tmish and why were you pushing Vanders after bugs called you “caught scum”? I don’t understand why you would be voting anyone other than bugs fypov, if you’re town.
wouldnt i be pushing u as scum rn? since i said that tmi quote fypov.

i just started having doubts towards eod... i still think vanders could be scum and considering how fast this bw is going; im probably considered as limbait rn.
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Post Post #1018 (isolation #166) » Sat May 15, 2021 7:20 pm

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In post 1016, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 1005, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 999, GrandpaMo wrote:i think town is losing this game. this is obviously a wifom kill. i would never ever kill andante especially considering i wanted to play wit her :/

im neighbors with robert.
Andante’s solve was you and Flow and if Flow is scum, I can see associatives in that last post of his.

Also, you saying at one point, I’d be scum if bugs was town, sounded kind’ve tmish and why were you pushing Vanders after bugs called you “caught scum”? I don’t understand why you would be voting anyone other than bugs fypov, if you’re town.
wouldnt i be pushing u as scum rn? since i said that tmi quote fypov.

i just started having doubts towards eod... i still think vanders could be scum and considering how fast this bw is going; im probably considered as limbait rn.
is there a possibility that you are reading associate and it could be possible associative read as town alligned?

honestly i didn't pay attention to flow trap this much this game just because of me knowing this is usually how they play as town so i wasnt really paranoid bout that + i aws really focused on you and bugs in trying to figure out ur allignment.


fwiw how i see it-- scum team could just be scumteam wit vanders/robert.

knowing neighbors here will help me.
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Post Post #1019 (isolation #167) » Sat May 15, 2021 7:29 pm

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In post 754, Hopkirk wrote:bugspray have we played together. i realllllly feel like i have meta on you but all i could find was a game where you modded that i was in and i thought you were a player
this feels like a weird quote... i catched this upon reading bugs/vanders logs.
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Post Post #1026 (isolation #168) » Sun May 16, 2021 12:17 pm

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In post 1021, Robert M Hunter wrote:
In post 1002, GrandpaMo wrote:i retracted my scumread on loki
Do did I. You misrepresented me.
i said i changed that read... that was when i was scumreading just loki and tunneling prehaps a probable town...

i retracted that retraction.
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Post Post #1027 (isolation #169) » Sun May 16, 2021 12:18 pm

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In post 1022, Robert M Hunter wrote:
In post 1004, GrandpaMo wrote:i just checked the neighbor chat... they claimed to be bad at mafia? even tho came from EM and have expierence ... they have been always playing the newbie card. they could be newb.
It's not like I was very active or any good on EM. You are being misleading again.
... how am i misleading. i am calling you a newb>>> you are claiming to be a newb ;-;.

im being truthful :/
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Post Post #1028 (isolation #170) » Sun May 16, 2021 12:19 pm

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In post 1023, Robert M Hunter wrote:
In post 1000, GrandpaMo wrote:i gave out my thoughts however robert didnt comment on anyhting.
WOW you are such a liar, it is YOU who didn't comment on anything until I started thinking you were scum, then all you did was trying to defend yourself. You weren't trying to solve the game.
i was referring in the night... u didnt talk at all during the night. u come into day 2 saying something along the lines of not being active and apologizing.

"defend yourself"

i asked u questions lol.
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Post Post #1029 (isolation #171) » Sun May 16, 2021 12:20 pm

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i love how you now react to me in this way. this is weird... and im not liking it.

u gave no content on day 1 ... thne go onto day 2 voting me out of no where. and blindly ignore everyone.

this could be scum indicitive.
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Post Post #1030 (isolation #172) » Sun May 16, 2021 12:21 pm

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In post 1025, Hopkirk wrote:@Vanders/Mo/Robert - since you're in claimed hoods, what do you think the hoods are/why?
so i thought it was loki / andante.

but now i think its

GB / VFP

Robert / Gpa.

Hopkirk / Loki

Bugs / Vanders

if its not hopkirk / loki then its hopkirk and vfp.

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Post Post #1031 (isolation #173) » Sun May 16, 2021 12:23 pm

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In post 1030, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 1025, Hopkirk wrote:@Vanders/Mo/Robert - since you're in claimed hoods, what do you think the hoods are/why?
so i thought it was loki / andante.

but now i think its

GB / VFP

Robert / Gpa.

Hopkirk / Loki

Bugs / Vanders

if its not hopkirk / loki then its hopkirk and vfp.

and gb / loki
wait i forgot to explain.

i thought it was andante / loki because of the early day 1 interactions and alligning.

but now i think it could be loki and you hopkirk nd thats just mainly on a guess. especially now considering you asking that question; it feels like something you followed up wit loki since loki also refrained from outting their hoods.

bugs/vanders -- claimed.

robert/gpa - claimed.

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Post Post #1032 (isolation #174) » Sun May 16, 2021 12:23 pm

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In post 1030, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 1025, Hopkirk wrote:@Vanders/Mo/Robert - since you're in claimed hoods, what do you think the hoods are/why?
so i thought it was loki / andante.

but now i think its

GB / VFP

Robert / Gpa.

Hopkirk / Loki

Bugs / Vanders

if its not hopkirk / loki then its hopkirk and vfp.

and gb / loki
wait i forgot to explain.

i thought it was andante / loki because of the early day 1 interactions and alligning.

but now i think it could be loki and you hopkirk nd thats just mainly on a guess. especially now considering you asking that question; it feels like something you followed up wit loki since loki also refrained from outting their hoods.

bugs/vanders -- claimed.

robert/gpa - claimed.

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Post Post #1033 (isolation #175) » Sun May 16, 2021 12:24 pm

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sorry fro the double quote
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Post Post #1036 (isolation #176) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:35 pm

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In post 1034, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 1030, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 1025, Hopkirk wrote:@Vanders/Mo/Robert - since you're in claimed hoods, what do you think the hoods are/why?
so i thought it was loki / andante.

but now i think its

GB / VFP

Robert / Gpa.

Hopkirk / Loki

Bugs / Vanders

if its not hopkirk / loki then its hopkirk and vfp.

and gb / loki
VFP isn’t even in this game.

I’m trying to figure out who knows who I’m neigbors with and I’m waiting to test that, so I’m going to hold off on claiming for now.

@mod, GB hasn’t posted for like 5 days now.
oh...

i always get flow trap/vfp mixed up..

there playstyles are the exact same lmfao
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Post Post #1060 (isolation #177) » Mon May 17, 2021 4:14 am

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In post 1040, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 999, GrandpaMo wrote:i think town is losing this game. this is obviously a wifom kill. i would never ever kill andante especially considering i wanted to play wit her :/

im neighbors with robert.
Why would you never ever do that?
tru ig wifom?

but i am looking as the kill from taht level of killing like you would kill because of wifom or blame etc...

not pr hunting
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Post Post #1061 (isolation #178) » Mon May 17, 2021 4:15 am

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In post 1041, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 1001, GrandpaMo wrote:honestly i dont know who mafia is...

the only person i might think of is vanders. just for the weird switch up. they called me town then you say it could be me and bugs s/s when you started sheeping andante/loki.

also. how did andante flip pr??? i thought they were neighbors wit u loki? who r u partners with then??
I thought your response to andante's case on you was very poor.
I was clearly not sheeping Loki (you could make an argument I was sheeping andante since our reads were the same) because I have been pushing back on the many Loki reads I disagree with, including him reading bug and maybe you town at various points after I scumread you both.
didnt u say that andantes response was weird to my interaction i had?

ig u can debate sheeping loki since loki kept changing a lot.
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Post Post #1062 (isolation #179) » Mon May 17, 2021 4:17 am

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In post 1047, Vanderscamp wrote:BUT I have no idea who I want to kill after flow.
seee thats the problem...

you might have a deepwolf in ur reads.

mafia could be robert.

we need to hear from their replacement and their take etc
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Post Post #1063 (isolation #180) » Mon May 17, 2021 4:18 am

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In post 1058, Hopkirk wrote:looking through some of vander's other games when i can. there's a discussion i noticed in an old scum QT discussing a dislike of bussing
has voted Grandpa(irrelevant)/Flow recently when viable wagons which is -partner likelihood for Vanders with either of them
In post 1059, Hopkirk wrote:irrelevant should be removed there, that was from thinking Vanders/Grandpa were a hood for a second which i thought i went back and corrected
im confused what u tryna say here...

me and vanders never played together lol
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Post Post #1064 (isolation #181) » Mon May 17, 2021 4:19 am

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In post 1056, flow trap wrote:
In post 1035, Loki Dokie wrote:Okay, tell me who you think is the scumteam. I may already have reasons to doubt that it’s exactly you/Mo but I currently really only have one confident tr and it would be nice to have more.
My (somewhat rushed at the end) pair analysis points to George+Anyone & Robert+GM as the most likely
im neighbors with robert...

i cant be alligned wit them lol
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Post Post #1066 (isolation #182) » Mon May 17, 2021 4:22 am

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In post 1065, Hopkirk wrote:Vanders was saying in an old scumchat he had that i was reading that he hates bussing (voting a scumpartner). he voted you earlier when that could have led to an exile. the pairing becomes less likely.

ignore the 'irrelevant' in the first post then ignore the second post.
ok ok thank u lol.

i see...

i think ur more townier then for this.

and yea i agree wit u WHAT is the scumcase on flow because honestly ...idek where the flow read came up. ..everyone just started sheeping andante and thought it was me and flow here out of no where.
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Post Post #1068 (isolation #183) » Mon May 17, 2021 4:23 am

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In post 1049, flow trap wrote:
In post 1045, Vanderscamp wrote:VOTE: flow

I actually think grandpa is townier than flow now, just purely based on effort level
This could be very sly
I won't tell you why
I want to see if it's genuine
(Also, I had a busy weekend)
yea effort level tend to be nai
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Post Post #1070 (isolation #184) » Mon May 17, 2021 4:47 am

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In post 1069, Hopkirk wrote:flow feels like it's having fun early + i don't see a sense of reads progression are the only things that leapt out on a flow skim which are respectively a lot +town/+scum. feels really under the radar which is weird when it has most posts than me

can you look at other ppl for once?

this whole game u literally been drawing ur attention to what other ppl push for example me... u see many ppl are starting to scumread me day 1 then follow up of how i am scummy.

now you are here; seeing a lot of ppl scumreading flow and u come out and say howthey might be scum.

dont be influenced by others that much... just be hoenst wit ur self and dont be afraid to defend if u think they are town lol. it just seems u could be used as a pawn for scum or scum urself..
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Post Post #1071 (isolation #185) » Mon May 17, 2021 5:51 am

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also the fact that this wagon stalled after 2 ppl voting in the beginning and disappearing should imply a BIT of towniness in ur reads
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Post Post #1076 (isolation #186) » Mon May 17, 2021 8:30 am

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In post 1075, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1074, Emily wrote:I am giddy because I rolled town and I love being town.
VOTE: Emily I haven't read the game at all, just this post.
they are new give them a break lol

how much experience u have @emily
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Post Post #1077 (isolation #187) » Mon May 17, 2021 8:40 am

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In post 1073, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Any TL;DRs will be appreciated and will be met with loving arms.
In post 1074, Emily wrote:Hi all

I am giddy because I rolled town and I love being town.

I haven't read the game at all and would appreciate a friendly face showing me around.
both of you have around 1,125 posts to read.

not that much if you think about it.

-- skim the game first look at early interactions wit me, andante, loki

-- also interactions between loki, vanders, and hopkirk.

-- then eod with bugs vs everyone (this includes the paranoia of flipping bugs nd me)

-- then look at beginning of day 2.

-- then i suggest to go back and look at flow traps interactions.


i think those are really the important highlights of this game.

doing all those will help u a lot. ur welcome
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Post Post #1112 (isolation #188) » Mon May 17, 2021 11:03 am

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In post 1085, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 1056, flow trap wrote:
In post 1035, Loki Dokie wrote:Okay, tell me who you think is the scumteam. I may already have reasons to doubt that it’s exactly you/Mo but I currently really only have one confident tr and it would be nice to have more.
My (somewhat rushed at the end) pair analysis points to George+Anyone & Robert+GM as the most likely
@Mo, anyone - please tell me how this is town? :lol:

What happened to that tr you had on me @Flow?
i already replied to that, did u not see haha.

its bad i agree...

can u provide me a scumcase on flow here?
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Post Post #1113 (isolation #189) » Mon May 17, 2021 11:06 am

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In post 1100, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 188, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 182, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
What?

Can you paraphrase what they said?

why do u wanna know? lmao
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In post 468, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 462, Andante wrote:when you entered saying I claimed maf in the hood...
But he knows you can’t possibly be fn then. Scum has no reason to rolefish their neighbour. So if bugs is scum, he knows for certain two townies who can’t possibly be fn right?
this was never real... look at what i said
@Mo how did you seriously think Andante and me were neighbors from this?
it just seemed anadnte was gettting mad that i kept tryna make yall obvious LOL.

yall both towards eod wanted the same thing--

that whole interaction wit the hood/scum pt thing just felt like you came up wit a theory in neighbor chat on how i could be scum, then you brought the attention to game thread
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Post Post #1114 (isolation #190) » Mon May 17, 2021 11:08 am

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In post 1103, Emily wrote:I count three votes on him with four votes required to eliminate so that should be e - 1 ?
In post 1105, Emily wrote:How do eliminations work here? Does he get some final chance to convince us to change our minds if someone votes for him here or is it over at that point?
how do you go from that to this quote right here?

....

you aren't new. you have to be an alt especially being called in for a REPLACEMENT for a hood mechanic game. lol

ur friend must have been sure u are good at mafia / or u are just bsing to get the newbie towncred gimic .
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #191) » Mon May 17, 2021 11:09 am

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In post 1079, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 1055, Hopkirk wrote:Loki/i think Robert are TRs which would leave one of (Vanders/Grandpamo) + one of (Flow+GB) so i should really look at associates here at some point
+1

I was going to say that, after you, Robert is my next most confident tr.

@mod, can you please prod GB. I don’t believe like what two posts and not 5 days of posting should be considered acceptable in a micro, because his continued absence is harming the game.
wait why is robert tr
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Post Post #1116 (isolation #192) » Mon May 17, 2021 11:10 am

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In post 1089, Hopkirk wrote:well where else on the internet do you frequent? you feel kind of familiar
what quote is this...

there name is literally emily--

what do u gain from that of knwoing they are on the internet when there is millions of emily.

do u have tmi? :dead:
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Post Post #1117 (isolation #193) » Mon May 17, 2021 11:11 am

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In post 1090, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 1084, Emily wrote:
In post 1076, GrandpaMo wrote:how much experience u have @emily

I'm not the most experienced - my friend recommended this website to me and said replacing in would be a quick way to get started.

Is there a good summary of what's happened so far?
I’m town, Hopkirk is like almost certainly town. I think you are and tl leaning Vanders as well. I think Flow is extremely likely to be scum.

I think based off of what Hopkirk said about Vanders hating bussing, I think he’s very likely town if Flow flips scum.

HEM would be townlock if Flow flips scum. I think Flow is scum because he basically said that HEM + Anyone else except for him could be scum. The lack of even a single confident tr is extremely scum indicative.

u literally just called everyone town. if u think flow is scum... who is flow scum wit??? me??? but u just said i wasnt s/s wit flow.
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Post Post #1126 (isolation #194) » Mon May 17, 2021 12:31 pm

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In post 1123, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 1121, Emily wrote:
In post 1111, Hopkirk wrote:Why would you head say no ever, is there something wrong with it?
well my head says I should take my time to read over the game, figure out which pairings of villains make sense and whether flow trap is one of them.

my heart is fairly vulnerable to confident men with easy smiles and lots of charisma and it says I should follow you.

Could you help me catch up ?

What are the pairings in the game that are known? What happened on Day One?
You mean the hoods?

Well, Mo claimed neighbors with your predecessor. Bugs and Vanders claimed neighbors. I’m assuming that monkey/GB is neighbors with Flow, since I’m in a hood with Hopkirk and Andante flipped friendly neighbor.


....i think there is scum between bugs/vander... >>> that implies vanders is scum.

i think also the 2nd scum is in loki/hopkirk -- i think thats a reach.

also i was gonna say before that hopkirk and loki could be alligned here as scum but that cant be true anymore. so that really is eh wack.

thats why i was thinking it could be vanders/robert unless ther is scum between nem/flow?
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Post Post #1127 (isolation #195) » Mon May 17, 2021 12:31 pm

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In post 1123, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 1121, Emily wrote:
In post 1111, Hopkirk wrote:Why would you head say no ever, is there something wrong with it?
well my head says I should take my time to read over the game, figure out which pairings of villains make sense and whether flow trap is one of them.

my heart is fairly vulnerable to confident men with easy smiles and lots of charisma and it says I should follow you.

Could you help me catch up ?

What are the pairings in the game that are known? What happened on Day One?
You mean the hoods?

Well, Mo claimed neighbors with your predecessor. Bugs and Vanders claimed neighbors. I’m assuming that monkey/GB is neighbors with Flow, since I’m in a hood with Hopkirk and Andante flipped friendly neighbor.


....i think there is scum between bugs/vander... >>> that implies vanders is scum.

i think also the 2nd scum is in loki/hopkirk -- i think thats a reach.

also i was gonna say before that hopkirk and loki could be alligned here as scum but that cant be true anymore. so that really is eh wack.

thats why i was thinking it could be vanders/robert unless ther is scum between nem/flow?
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Post Post #1128 (isolation #196) » Mon May 17, 2021 12:32 pm

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@loki .


u didnt answer my question..

if u think flow is scum.. who are they scum wit. because in ur reads u gave to emily... u listed everyone as town
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Post Post #1131 (isolation #197) » Mon May 17, 2021 12:44 pm

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In post 1119, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 468, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 462, Andante wrote:when you entered saying I claimed maf in the hood...
But he knows you can’t possibly be fn then. Scum has no reason to rolefish their neighbour. So if bugs is scum, he knows for certain two townies who can’t possibly be fn right?
u implying that i dont know that andante could be fn is an assumption that came from like hey we are neighbors hence why he should know that u arent fn. also the use of "he knows for certain two townies" that just further justifies that u see urself town with andante in ur hood.
In post 476, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 471, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 470, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 468, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 462, Andante wrote:when you entered saying I claimed maf in the hood...
But he knows you can’t possibly be fn then. Scum has no reason to rolefish their neighbour. So if bugs is scum, he knows for certain two townies who can’t possibly be fn right?
this was never real... look at what i said
im confused why you are taking memes as hypotheticals lol.
I’m starting a fact. You obviously know your neighbor can’t be fn. Town neighbor only knows one player who can’t be, scum knows two and actual fn knows neither.
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In post 331, GrandpaMo wrote:can i say that its obvious who the neighbors are lmfao. like i have 2 in mind and its suprisingly obsious the more i think bout it. or is that tmi :eyes:
How is that obvious? We only know of two because you outed yours.
i actually was thinking exactly bout [you and andante] and wifoming the 2nd one for bait [me and Robert] (meaning i never had a 2nd one in thought lol)
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In post 543, Andante wrote:
In post 542, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 539, Robert M Hunter wrote:What is the reasoning behind keeping the neighbors secret?

because you would out the FN. FN is the only one who isn't in a neighbor. scum already know 2 ppl that isn't FN... have u read anything of what loki said?

I mean, I feel like odds are real high scum will also know FN, like, say I was FN, I tell you, you say in your hood that I'm FN, both of you know, and if either are scum I'd be dead

but still, lets not out hoods today!! we'll see where we're at tomorrow
Idk about that, I played a similar game but it had different tprs and scum didn’t figure it out until much later but yeah, this is why we shouldn’t out hoods.

Possible exception is if you’re town getting run up and are extremely convinced your neighbor isn’t. Otherwise bad idea.
come on this seems like yall are so alligned!! the quote from andante and you come out together saying the same thing-- plus andante makes it seem they are the neighbor
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In post 545, GrandpaMo wrote:not outing who just yet. i will see where the current pace of the game is going at till i make that choice
How can we take seriously anything you’ve said so far in this game? First you claim Andante is your neighbor who confessed to being scum, then the weird bugs’ fake fn CC thing and now this. You have done so much gambiting so far in this game, I honestly can’t tell when or what your saying is on the level or not.
In post 614, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 181, GrandpaMo wrote:ok so im neighbors with andante and they are scum btw they just confessed to me

VOTE: andante
I think since Andante is clearly not your neighbor, this is scum rolefishing for fn.

VOTE: GrandpaMo
u discretly said that i was not neighbors with andante and u said this is scum rolefishing for fn which signifies the read even more to make it believable. i just thought it was so obvious that yall were alligned hence why i thought the kill was going to be on maybe hopkirk>>> but i did at one point think hopkirk and flow could be alligned and george baily afk neighbor lol

See I don’t really see why you get Andante being my neighbor from any of this. I also think that once Andante flipped, it should already be obvious. So I’m also having trouble believing you don’t actually know exactly who my neighbor is.
hope this gives u more insight

also...

i think what a good play and i was thinking bout doing it... is that like i was gonna hard claim neighbors with andante lol and never let that go... i tried meming in the beginning wit it but now i was in a predictment to actually fake slip as town to out that me and andante were neighbors and i was really thinking bout doing this just because my neighbor was afk... and it would confuse the mafia to some point. and i was thinking at that time that maybe i had enough time for loki to understand (since i thought they were neighbors) to know what i was doing... understanidng that scum wouldnt really intentionally meme twice in the game unless used for wifom purposes.
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Post Post #1132 (isolation #198) » Mon May 17, 2021 12:45 pm

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In post 1128, GrandpaMo wrote:@loki .


u didnt answer my question..

if u think flow is scum.. who are they scum wit. because in ur reads u gave to emily... u listed everyone as town
ur deflecting my question by asking me questions :///

pls answer and i will answer
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Post Post #1133 (isolation #199) » Mon May 17, 2021 12:46 pm

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In post 1130, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 1126, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 1123, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 1121, Emily wrote:
In post 1111, Hopkirk wrote:Why would you head say no ever, is there something wrong with it?
well my head says I should take my time to read over the game, figure out which pairings of villains make sense and whether flow trap is one of them.

my heart is fairly vulnerable to confident men with easy smiles and lots of charisma and it says I should follow you.

Could you help me catch up ?

What are the pairings in the game that are known? What happened on Day One?
You mean the hoods?

Well, Mo claimed neighbors with your predecessor. Bugs and Vanders claimed neighbors. I’m assuming that monkey/GB is neighbors with Flow, since I’m in a hood with Hopkirk and Andante flipped friendly neighbor.


....i think there is scum between bugs/vander... >>> that implies vanders is scum.

i think also the 2nd scum is in loki/hopkirk -- i think thats a reach.

also i was gonna say before that hopkirk and loki could be alligned here as scum but that cant be true anymore. so that really is eh wack.

thats why i was thinking it could be vanders/robert unless ther is scum between nem/flow?
Your reads aren’t really much better than Flow’s. Again, you are throwing everyone but you out there as possible scum.

Like do you think there’s scum between me and Hopkirk or don’t you?
yk what im gonna answer regardless...because what is this quote-

im sorry but why would i claim scum if im town. if you have a reason to scumread me go ahead LOL im not gonna scumread myself.
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