Mini Normal 2207 | The End

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think Alice should say what their modifier is.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So Gypyx. Are you scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Who would it be if it’s not you?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like i could just dump my thoughts out here as i always do, but i want to know what YOU think.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I doubt that’s a thing vigs can do.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That could be the case.
Besides Anya was 100% confirmed town anyway as you would either be scum spewing them town or a real cop with an real result.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i think it's indicative that icon is aware that being defensive is bad for him, and as scum he would've made a greater effort of not being

I mean you did make posts like this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m gonna assume you’re lying, because a world in which N_M decides the winner in an ElO outcome is one i don’t want to live in.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I can go with an no lim. But it seems better to do that in Elo imo.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This just feels like big scum gave up mood.
What is Gypyx on?

[NorwegianboyEE]

My intuition says it's Norwegianboy, but time will show. I will likely go for Gypyx today.

Intuition is based on what?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'll vote once AliceK answers and i find out how many votes Gypx is on.

[NorwegianboyEE]

My intuition says it's Norwegianboy, but time will show. I will likely go for Gypyx today.

Intuition is based on what?

That if scum agenda was to bus Geroge you were the one executing it. It could be very tempting to bus George, because he was inactive and likely go down D1, D2.

Then i also bussed Iconeum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Are you?

Um, no.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Meh i’m not voting anywhere else today anyway.
VOTE: Gypyx
Baltar you were prob just right.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You know i’m not actually inactive i’m just waiting for Alice and Luca to place their votes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is it over?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm gonna have to analyze both Luca and Baltars ISO's now. Joy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

N_M can you please explain your reads and why you instantly default to Luca? Is there any particular reason it can't be Baltar?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok so i went through Baltars ISO and picked up all of the posts i found to be relevant with my skim.

Baltar:
On George:

Spoiler:

#1020
#1067
#1074
#1831
#2149
#2353

On Ico:

Spoiler:

#662
#769
#803
#1029
#1829
#1870
#1903
#1922
#2049
#2347
#2516
#2815
#2837

So from initial impressions, it seems to me that Baltar behaved shifty with George, switching from early scum reading to defending them an awful lot and calling their wagon "lazy" for example. But Ico they've scumread pretty much the whole time.
If scum then they seemed awfully keen to buss Ico, while being a bit more reserved with George.

Will catch up to any interesting posts from Luca later, i've gotta go celebrate Norwegian Constitution Day very soon.

Spoiler:

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why analyse when you can vote?

Because we're in ElO.

[NorwegianboyEE]

But like, can you explain why N_M? You're conf!town here so it's pretty annoying how you just vote and not really explain. If it's Baltar and we lim wrong because of you i'm going to be mad.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'll do some iso skimming today and see what I see. Gut from yesterday stands that Luca is scummier/less committed to positions than Norwee has been, but Norwee has also kind of played along the periphery for some of the game.

I'm not sure what periphery means, but i've pushed for limming Ico and George during times where it would be really inconvenient for me to do so if i was aligned with them so i'm definitely not going to be the vote today. Like i'm pretty sure i said Gypyx should not be voted in favour of Iconeum at some point.
Also i called out Ico's push on Luca as looking pretty bad and it didn't feel like bussing so i'm honestly leaning more on you than Luca for last scum here. Though i haven't gone through Luca's ISO in detail yet.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Alternatively, if we no lim and N_M dies then we can do ElO for real.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This exchange also gives me pause. Why would scum!Luca say this?

Yeah that's the problem, i feel like both of you have things that made it seem unlikely you'd be the last scum.
Which just goes to show that whichever one of you it is has been playing really well to distance.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm going to read Luca's ISO now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

- Luca Blight part 1 -

On George:

Spoiler:

#290
#737
#755
#787 (Wants George over Iconeum on day 1. Possibly wants to have 1-shot strongman use shot first?)
#977
#992 ("I'm going to sheep Datisi until the end of time" and votes Anya...)
#996
#1097
#1598 (Wants to sheep me and votes George?)
#1638 (Votes Anya again)
#1682 (Votes George again and goes shopping)
#1858 (Wants towncred. "I think my vote onto George is what swung it tbh")
#1955 (Explains why anyone would buss George, and why Datisi was the obvious NK)
#2082 (Such an paranoia inducing post...)
#2090
#2376

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t really want a hammer yet and i have no idea how many votes are on who atm.
UNVOTE:

Norwegian, can you explain this unvote of Ico on D2 to me? What were you hoping to gain here. You ended up only making a few posts between this and your final vote.

I think i just wanted to make sure someone didn't get hammered immediately as i had no idea how many votes he was on. (Which is kinda obvious given how little VC's have been posted in this game) Don't count it as an unvote due to me not scumreading them, but an unvote because i wanted to make sure day didn't end immediately when i didn't feel ready for it to.

[NorwegianboyEE]

- Luca Blight part 2 -

On Iconeum:

Spoiler:

#1324 (This was such an random post, i don't understand why Luca made this at the time and looking back on it, it pings me as fake.)
#1701
#1909
#1961
#1990
#2082 (With all this talk about bussing and Luca also asking Ico about it i'm almost starting to wonder if bussing could have been an deliberate strategy from D2 onwards)
#2112
#2116
#2121
#2126
-->(A lot more posts that have Luca fighting Ico)
#2285
#2473
#2719

Looking at Luca's ISO, their progression on George is a bit back and forth with how they sometimes vote Anya but then go back to George. They also made a comment stating they would "Sheep Datisi to the end of time", with voting Anya, but then saying "Fuck it i'll just sheep Norwee instead and voting George, which definitely made me worried there might have been some pocketing going on. Then they make post 1858 and others where they seem to be very wanting of towncred for having voted George and claiming they were what swung it. But i don't really get that impression myself. Their bantering with Ico is a lot more extensive however, and almost makes me wonder if it was an premeditated bussing once Ico had spent their strongman shot. Assuming it was used on the first night. It's somewhat convincing but compared to Baltar they just seem more like the last scum here?
Baltar, i'm going to let you finish your analyzis before i fully decide but i am kinda leaning Luca now that i've read both of your ISO's, pending Luca's further comments obviously. But that's where i'm at right now.
There's definitely the possibility that Luca's kept me alive so i would trust them over Baltar here. Given our long history together.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I really hope this is right as i haven't put this much effort into a game in a long while.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Fingers crossed.
VOTE: Luca Blight

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you're seriously town here, I need to see that. I don't want to lose to a deep wolf.

LOL

[NorwegianboyEE]

Iconeum and Georgebailey has been avenged.

[NorwegianboyEE]

No redactions for scum PT.
Can we see dead PT? Assuming there is one.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s quite ridiculous how we didn’t at least no-lim today btw but oh well

I intentionally brought N_M here so i would have a conf!town to murder assuming we no limmed.
Precisely so another Large 231 situation wouldn't happen again.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I mean i could just argue you killed N_M because he’d vote you regardless Luca.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The George/Norwee bussing strat never goes wrong.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Too townsided? Still won baby.