Happy Face Mafia (Game Over)

[willow1]

i am arguing for scenario 3 if that was unclear

[Bear HUGS]

Aren’t we still doing the mass claims?

[Retti]

I don't think we actually need to at this point, if people have hidden info they can keep it hidden

[Raya36]

Jjh just wants the extra kill.

I agree. He knows he's caught so he wants to be the first elim so sam can cause an extra town kill to happen. I say we just go for Sam today then get JJ tomorrow

The info I got was that there are 6 masks currently remaining in the game. I have one of them, sam/dunn/flea/t3 are the others, someone is scum who didn't want to claim their mask

Good to know. So the pool is: (willow, professor, jj, bear, me, titus, vfp).
Maybe it's just jj?

looking at the list I think that's everyone?

i am a mask checker who has all of vfp/titus/raya as possessing no masks, checked in that order. i softed this a few different times, might collect the posts at some point.

Also very good to know. So pool becomes: (willow, professor, jj, bear)
So prob jj. It's not willow or bear

I think I like eliming jj first the most and sam after. I agree we have enough clears and hardtown reads for this.

[willow1]

the extra kill is literally free

does ms not understand the rules about odds/evens

[Raya36]

scum!jj wants Sam's extra kill. jj's claim is fake to get it so we elim jj tonight and sam lives to kill an extra townie.

[Bear HUGS]

I’m really not understanding why we should elim Sam > guiltied scum? Like I honestly don’t see how it’s not exactly jjh/Drap?

Drap is the only one who refuses to claim on the mask thing and he’s voting VFP.

[Dunnstral]

scum!jj wants Sam's extra kill. jj's claim is fake to get it so we elim jj tonight and sam lives to kill an extra townie.

jjh didn't hear out sam's full claim before their own claim

Their claim was wifom to try to survive by looking town based on claim

Also, it doesn't matter even if he does want that

[Bear HUGS]

scum!jj wants Sam's extra kill. jj's claim is fake to get it so we elim jj tonight and sam lives to kill an extra townie.

So you’re saying it’s better to elim Sam? What makes you think jjh isn’t just trying to trick us with this? Because Sam elim does give scum a free kill regardless.

[willow1]

scum!jj wants Sam's extra kill. jj's claim is fake to get it so we elim jj tonight and sam lives to kill an extra townie.

great, now can u evaluate the optimal play directly without relying on what scum may or may not want as the crux of the argument

[jjh927]

I have a guilty on jjh.

I'm struggling to see how that could be the case

Well then what do you claim?

On odd phases, if I die then future flips will be alignment only and will not include role.
During odd nights I can target a player and I find out what negative effects have been caused by them wearing a mask. I can't find out what the drawback is before someone has worn a mask though, only find out retroactively. This has been relatively useless as I targeted Whemestar in N1 and T3 in N3 and got nothing both times. In the first case, I thought Whemestar would be one of the most likely players in the game to use a mask in N1. In the second case, T3 had claimed a mask and I assumed it was gonna get used here.

In even nights I can stop someone from wearing a mask, effectively roleblocking a mask ability (but only a mask ability). I targeted Dunnstral in N2.

I can put on a mask to swap these round but I haven't done that

[jjh927]

No idea what role could generate a false guilty on me here, but there's a lot indicating it's not a fake one so it must simply be false

[jjh927]

I do think it's better to elim me first simply because it stops this neg utility from firing off

Honestly I was planning on going fully active in day 2 because I was gonna try and get myself NKed but stage 1 of that plan just didn't happen

[samantha97]

VOTE: jjh927

the vote is unrelated to your above posts btw, which I appreciate

[jjh927]

People seem to have talked a lot about what I want and what I know

I would like it on record that:
My proposed elim order here is myself first, then Samantha, then Titus. This isn't the best in terms of town deaths, but it'll do.
I have seen all of the high rise invasion anime, which is pretty good overall but I don't think it had any particularly spectacular individual scenes that stood out.

[jjh927]

I think I'm E-1

[Retti]

So the 6 masks thing was actually a bluff - I wanted to see if scum would concede thinking they were in autoloss. The actual info was that there were 6 town aligned players with masks, including Romance - I bumped the number by 1 thinking there might be a solitary masked scum holding out. So, uh, thanks for that claim?

VOTE: jjh927

[Dunnstral]

A nice balanced setup where we've got 3 guilties on jjh

[Bear HUGS]

So the 6 masks thing was actually a bluff - I wanted to see if scum would concede thinking they were in autoloss. The actual info was that there were 6 town aligned players with masks, including Romance - I bumped the number by 1 thinking there might be a solitary masked scum holding out. So, uh, thanks for that claim?

VOTE: jjh927

You know jjh did something very similar to BM in Animals uPick 2, so the irony isn’t lost on me.

[jjh927]

[Bear HUGS]

Are you claiming scum then @jjh?

[jjh927]

You know I have 3 guilties on me and just got hammered right

[jjh927]

But anyway, I'm actually town even though 3 separate people have guiltied me

[willow1]

and we STILL got a stupid amount of clears out of it ROFL

this game owns

[jjh927]

In order:
Titus is scum
I am guessing that T3 is a tracker who has made a questionable assumption about me targeting him
Retti's gambit isn't actually a guilty because the actual scum is someone else within the mask claims. I trueclaimed