Term Replacement: "Prince"

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Term Replacement: "Prince"

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:39 am

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Came up in some discussions on the discord, as Prince was a gendered name that wasn't too popular in general, and besides, didn't work well to pluralize (three princes in the same game? What kind of world is this?)

I came up with the suggestion of
Diplomat
to replace Prince.

Reasoning
  • Diplomat is gender-neutral.
  • Makes more sense flavor-wise (a diplomat has immunity, and it makes more sense if a 1-shot Diplomat is like "on their last chance" as opposed to a 1-shot Prince (disinherited? how does a Prince lose their elimproof status?)


I also know there's a case for using term-dependent names like Eliminationproof. My suggestion here is that could be used in a way analogous to Bulletproof – as an invention flavor or an optional mod flavor.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:58 am

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I think diplomat or eliminationproof (not that big a deal if elim is the standard) is a good replacement

Prince is too "One Night Ultimate Werewolf" - and I'm saying this as the one who rolled Prince in One Night Ultimate Ultimate Werewolf
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:05 am

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No one is yeetproof. If you can't yeet someone, you clearly aren't yeeting hard enough.

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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:34 pm

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I really like Diplomat as a role name for elimination proof. I think "diplomatic immunity" fits a lot better than the royalty theme
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:07 pm

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Yeah this is actually reasonable. Support.
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:26 pm

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In post 2, Jingle wrote:No one is yeetproof. If you can't yeet someone, you clearly aren't yeeting hard enough.

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They are legally yeetproof.

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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:54 am

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The reason I had them change it to Prince was because of One Night Ultimate Werewolf. I think there is value in overlapping some role terms from that game, since it is widely known beyond the standard mafia forum community (not that it necessarily has to be this role).
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Thu May 06, 2021 6:41 am

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In post 0, Cook wrote:Came up in some discussions on the discord, as Prince was a gendered name that wasn't too popular in general, and besides, didn't work well to pluralize (three princes in the same game? What kind of world is this?)

I came up with the suggestion of
Diplomat
to replace Prince.

Reasoning
  • Diplomat is gender-neutral.
  • Makes more sense flavor-wise (a diplomat has immunity, and it makes more sense if a 1-shot Diplomat is like "on their last chance" as opposed to a 1-shot Prince (disinherited? how does a Prince lose their elimproof status?)


I also know there's a case for using term-dependent names like Eliminationproof. My suggestion here is that could be used in a way analogous to Bulletproof – as an invention flavor or an optional mod flavor.
I actually quite like diplomat, especially with this logic
unfortunately my main "why" involves spoilers for a video game so I can't really dive into it here
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2021 5:19 am

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Diplomat is better than elimproof. make it so.
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Sat May 08, 2021 1:47 pm

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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Sun May 09, 2021 8:42 am

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In post 7, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 0, Cook wrote:Came up in some discussions on the discord, as Prince was a gendered name that wasn't too popular in general, and besides, didn't work well to pluralize (three princes in the same game? What kind of world is this?)

I came up with the suggestion of
Diplomat
to replace Prince.

Reasoning
  • Diplomat is gender-neutral.
  • Makes more sense flavor-wise (a diplomat has immunity, and it makes more sense if a 1-shot Diplomat is like "on their last chance" as opposed to a 1-shot Prince (disinherited? how does a Prince lose their elimproof status?)


I also know there's a case for using term-dependent names like Eliminationproof. My suggestion here is that could be used in a way analogous to Bulletproof – as an invention flavor or an optional mod flavor.
I actually quite like diplomat, especially with this logic
unfortunately my main "why" involves spoilers for a video game so I can't really dive into it here
hey, i'm curious, can you say which one (in PMs or here whatever) i wanna see if we think about the same one
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 5:34 am

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so, final decision:

go ahead with this?
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Tue May 18, 2021 6:25 am

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In post 8, Nero Cain wrote:Diplomat is better than elimproof. make it so.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Thu May 20, 2021 3:01 am

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wiki people, get on it
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