T3's Mini Normal Review, May 2021


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T3's Mini Normal Review, May 2021

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Mon May 10, 2021 10:29 am

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T3 wrote:I think I have everything, first time modding, not sure.


Setup:

Town Friendly Neighbor

Town Babysitter

Town Universal Backup

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Mafia Goon

Mafia Goon

Mafia Neapolitan


Welcome, you are a Town Friendly Neighbor.

Each Night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will receive a message from the moderator that states that you are Town.

Win Condition: You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.


Welcome, you are a Town Babysitter.

Each Night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will be protected from one direct kill, but will die if you are killed.

Win Condition: You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.


Welcome, you are a Town Universal Backup.

You will inherit the role of town power roles who die, losing this ability in the process.

Win Condition: You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.


Welcome, you are a Vanilla Townie.

You have no special abilities.

Win Condition: You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.



Welcome, you are a Mafia Goon.

Your teammates are [name (Mafia Neapolitan), and name (Mafia Goon)].

You may talk to them here.

Each Night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

Win Condition: You win if at least one mafia member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).


Welcome, you are a Mafia Neapolitan.

Your teammates are [name, (Mafia Goon), and name (Mafia Goon)].

You may talk to them here.

You have the following active abilities, but may use only one per Night:

1. Each Night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn whether or not that player is a Vanilla Townie.
2. Each Night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

Win Condition: You win if at least one mafia member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).


Neapolitan:

Your target is a Vanilla Townie

Your target is not a Vanilla Townie

Your action failed and you received no result

Friendly Neighbor message:

You were visited by a Friendly Neighbor, [name].
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Rules

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No rules stated here supersede the Forum Rules and Guidelines. If there is a contradiction between these rules and those, please inform me privately so I may correct it.


The Basics
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  • Days are 336 hours (2 weeks). Nights are 48 hours (2 days).
    Prod timers of 48/24 (hours). The timer pauses during weekends. Naked prod dodges will only be counted the first three times. Players who incur 3 prods will be replaced.
    Standard Majority-only elimination mechanics.
    Daytalk enabled for all PT's.
Conduct:
  • 1. I will be using
    Gold
    for my mod color. Avoid using it.
    2. Play to your win-condition.
    3. You may not discuss this game in any capacity outside of this game until a win-condition has been met.
    4. Mafia can become a heated game. Some measure of insult is allowed. However, excessive insults, ad-hominim attacks, or targeted harrassment will be met with a warning. Failing to adhere to it will result in replacement. The use of slurs/insults/attacks that target minority, disadvantaged, or legally protected classes will result in replacement.
    5. Interpersonal disputes and other outside influences are to be kept out of the game.
    6. Do not quote or misquote private communications from the moderator. Do not quote or misquote any communications from any private topics you be in.
    7. Don't use encryption, tiny/hidden/unreadable text or anything that makes your post illegible in the main thread. All communication in the main thread must be in English.
    8. Images/GIF's are allowed as long as they are not excessively large. As a general rule, avoid using anything that is over 1000 pixels in any dimension. Excessive amounts of GIF's/Images on a single page will result in a warning.
    9. All replacement requests will be taken as serious, irrevocable, and effective once they are sent. Once you have requested replacement, you are disbarred from posting in the main thread. Similiarly, do not declare a replace out in the thread. Do not threaten to replace out. Do not tell another player to replace out, or say that you are considering replacing out.
    10. If you are eliminated from the game through any means, you are disbarred from posting in the thread.
    11. All pretended violations of the above rules will be treated as actual violations. Do not intentionally test the limits of these rules.
Activity Requirements:

Every 48 hours without a post will inquire a prod from me. Once you are prodded, you have 24 hours to post before you are replaced.
The prod timer is paused during weekends. Players who go 48 hours without posting while this is in effect will receive unofficial prods.
You may post naked prod dodges, but they will only count the first three times. Afterwards, posts must be game-advancing to reset the prod timer.
If you are prodded three times, you will be replaced.
Vacation/Limited Access: Declare V/LA by bolding Mod: V/LA until [date], if you have to be absent longer than 36 hours. The prod timer pauses completely during this time. If you are V/LA longer than 7 days (168 hours), you will be replaced. If you must be V/LA for that amount of time or longer, I recommend you simply replace out instead.

  • Game Mechanics:


Day:
  • Days begin with a deadline of 336 hours (14 days/2 weeks)
    Days end when one of the following occurs:

    The deadline is reached
    An execution (elimination) or no-execution (no-elimination) is achieved.
    A player of any alignment is modkilled.
    Votes should be made via the vote tag: ["vote]NAME[/vote"] or ["v]NAME[/v"] (without the quotation marks). Full-player names are preferred.
    When more than half of the living players (50% + 1 rounded down) are voting for the same player, that player will be executed (eliminated) and the day will end. Votes are irrevocable once a majority is achieved.
    You may vote not to execute by voting for "No Execution or No Elimination". When a majority is reached on this (50% + 1 rounded down), the day will end without an execution.
    If the day reaches deadline without a majority, there will be no execution.
    Votes must be recognizably the players name, or they will not be counted (e.g typing TREE when you are trying to vote for T3 will not count.)
    When a majority vote has been achieved but not yet recognized by the moderator, then the game is in Twilight. All players, including the condemned, may continue to post in all related topics until I lock the thread.
    Under certain circumstances I may elect to extend the deadline. I will announce this in thread if it occurs.
Night:
  • Nights last 48 hours, or until all living players have given me approval to end it early.
    During the night, you should be unable to post in the public game thread. If for some reason you are able, doing so is against the rules.
    Mafia night abilities must be submitted in the Mafia's private thread. Factional kills must specify which mafioso carries out the kill.
    Town night abilities should be submitted via PM. If you have a Notes PT, I will allow it to be submitted there.
    Use of active night abilities is optional unless otherwise specified in the role PM; if no action is submitted, no action will occur.
Sample Role PM:
Welcome, you are a Vanilla Townie.

You have no active abilities.

Win Condition: You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

At least one player has this role PM.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Mon May 10, 2021 10:30 am

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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon May 10, 2021 10:33 am

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This seems scumsided even for an Isis reviewed setup without revisions.
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"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon May 10, 2021 1:44 pm

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Most of my idea revolved around friendly neighbor and babysitter or some kind of innocent confirmingrole such as innocent child.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 3:54 am

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If you convert the universal backup to a d3 IC and cut the neap I think it's fine
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 4:33 am

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Great. So final setup would be
Friendly Neighbor
Town Babysitter
Day 3 Innocent Child
7 VT

3 goon?
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 6:59 am

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In post 5, T3 wrote:Great. So final setup would be
Friendly Neighbor
Town Babysitter
Day 3 Innocent Child
7 VT

3 goon?
Balance-wise, this is fine for me. It's a bit "light" on power, but the town's power is rather notably strong. It's obviously swingy depending on how long the tprs live, but I feel the setup is passable like this, yes.

Just need the updated role PMs.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Tue May 11, 2021 9:02 am

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Yeah this is on the scumsided end of the range of stuff that gets passed but since Babysitter is a role that offers a ton of agency to the faction that is disadvantaged that's a good feeling.

Need role PMs.

Your only results PM is
You learn that <Friendly Neighbor player name> is aligned with the
town.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 10:18 am

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Will do role pms later. Could I maybe make one of thegoons a traitor to balance it?
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 10:34 am

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You may not
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 10:38 am

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I think it would be pretty likely to be an overcorrection, it's a massive balance shift, and these roles don't play great with traitor I don't think.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2021 10:46 am

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^What Isis said.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Fri May 21, 2021 10:25 pm

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Welcome, you are a Town Friendly Neighbor.

Each Night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will receive a message from the moderator that states that you are Town.

Win Condition: You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.


Welcome, you are a Town Babysitter.

Each Night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will be protected from one direct kill, but will die if you are killed.

Win Condition: You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.


Welcome, you are a Town Day 3 Innocent Child.

If you are alive on Day 3, the moderator will publicly confirm your alignment.

Win Condition: You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.


Welcome, you are a Vanilla Townie.

You have no special abilities.

Win Condition: You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.



Welcome, you are a Mafia Goon.

Your teammates are [name (Mafia Goon, and name (Mafia Goon)].

You may talk to them here.

Each Night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

Win Condition: You win if at least one mafia member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sat May 22, 2021 7:27 am

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Looks good to me
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sat May 22, 2021 1:06 pm

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In post 13, Isis wrote:Looks good to me
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Sat May 22, 2021 2:16 pm

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setup is final
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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