DEFCON Mafia 5.0: GAME OVER - NEW AMERICA FORMED

[Vaxkiller]

No rebuttal?

[Vaxkiller]

We got most of the "I GOT NUKES!!!!" out of our systems, I think we can holster them if needed to get more info. Besides, there is a terrorist in play that would want scum!toogs or town!toogs dead to get to me.


Hmmmm.

Trying to think about samanthas view here for not seeing that.

[Vaxkiller]

terrorist has no incentive to kill espionage unless they think espionage is controlled by mafia

lol wut?

[Vaxkiller]

the only way to get a guilty is to specifically choose to hunt for terrorist instead of mafia

Yea... so im still dangerous to them....

[Vaxkiller]

When do you flip?

[Vaxkiller]

How do I know that?

[Vaxkiller]

So, I havent talked about this is a while, but the reason I was scum reading prism is that they were using the EXACT SAME WRONG information for pushing me.

[Vaxkiller]

Vax, you seem quite different from what I remember in 2181. I remember you being more aggressive in the opener, not really publicly hedging, and the anti-team read felt a bit out of left field as though it felt pressured to do something.

My memory wrong or has there been a shift in your style?

I'm not acting any different than the last game we just played together as both town, and you hard town read me there.

Actually, you are, and it is specifically

because

of the differences I'm seeing between that game and this one that make me think you're scum here.

I'm not acting any different than the last game we just played together as both town, and you hard town read me there.

Actually, you are, and it is specifically

because

of the differences I'm seeing between that game and this one that make me think you're scum here.

Can you explain these?

mastina, can you explain your Vax read? He looked reasonably towny to me.

Well basically. Vaxkiller is trying to be town without actually being town. Last game, Vaxkiller was town without trying to be town; he was town naturally from the onset. But here he's trying to force it. He's trying to make himself look town, in a way similar to last game, without actually radiating the town energy the way he did last game.

[Vaxkiller]

Mastina's first list:

PookyTheMagicalBear

gorilla

Prism

Cephrir (fastest backtrack in the west: I thought his opener was scum but his posts since then make me think town)

samantha97

Save the Dragons

Equinox

Nexus

DeasVail

Lady Lambdadelta

Toogeloo

Robert M Hunter

Untrod Tripod

DeathNote

joqiza

mary

Bell

deep-city-lights

T3

The Church of Skitter (Alisae/Menalque)

Titus

Vaxkiller

Et Al (Skitter/SS)

Locktown townreads lean town null (I need to shrink this I know) lean scum scumread scum.

based on the list i'm thinking it's one of {Prism/Mog/IV, Sam, gorilla, Cephrir}, and one of {DV, Titus}

I don't think it's gorilla or sam and Cephrir has a clear. Maybe I'm confirm biasing myself into this position though, but I think Prism and Mastina town read each other in order to try and protect each other.

This is another reason I checked cephir!!!! That weird mastina move.

[Vaxkiller]

As for my prism/mastina post, I had like a half a dozen posts in the game before mastina's scum read on me...

[Vaxkiller]

This is part of the reason why I'm scum reading that slot. With mognet, I agave them a chance, but all there ever did was question everyone, they were not looking for answers tho. They did nothing with the answers, they just kept questioning people. Like its ok to ask lots of questions, but DO something with that information, form reads, ideas... but no.... just more questions.

[Vaxkiller]

Don't we want to wait for the flips?

[Vaxkiller]

aren't there still nukes in the air?

[Vaxkiller]

Is cephir still confident in this?

[Vaxkiller]

I could go for a Johhny fade. Someone promise me they will nuke IV tomorrow!

[Vaxkiller]

Fox and hound, right?

[Vaxkiller]

New plan: Vax cops someone that is not Toogeloo, Bell, Bingle, or Cephrir (obviously). We kill everyone that isn't one of those 5 and hopefully win the game.

Yup!

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: Sam

I'm glad we didn't rush into night!

[Vaxkiller]

Woot woot!

[Vaxkiller]

Someone write my name on a nuke before you launch it tomorrow.

[Vaxkiller]

I think Vax should probably check IV since a lot of people were having trouble figuring out their alignment and I think IV should make sure that Johnny (who is probably a ruskie) should not be able to nuke

Should we really announce it tho? Or no worries at this point.

[Vaxkiller]

Nuking them would help me with unresolved feelings

(Love you IV!)

[Vaxkiller]

Ive been trying to get this gify to work.... ARGH

[Vaxkiller]

https://gfycat.com/merrybountifulgallinule

I give up

[Vaxkiller]

Sometimes i get them to work and sometimes I dont.


Lets do this!

[Vaxkiller]

I'm busy until tonight, but IV is town.

[Vaxkiller]

Plz wait for nukes tho...

[Vaxkiller]

I worked backwards last night until I found the important bits, still more to read tho. I'm so glad I inno'd IV. Sorry about scum reading your slot and not the player IV.

[Vaxkiller]

I whole-heartedly agree to the plan!

[Vaxkiller]

@IV I think this all works. I can't think of how it could fail, and yea it's prolly Save the dragoons.

[Vaxkiller]

How does it not Titus?

[Vaxkiller]

Nice meme!

[Vaxkiller]

Taking bets!

Titus is paying out 7-4 odds.
Save the dragons 5-3 odds.

[Vaxkiller]

Gg all.

Lurked this out.

I don’t think I have comments right now as my spoons are lacking but just wow.

GG you, sry for scum reading you!

[Vaxkiller]

i think that nuking your own partner like that is p close to a throw tbh

Im betting it was a last ditch effort to try and get us to cancel the nuke because for sure they would target thier partner...

[Vaxkiller]

Honestly, im still a little butt hurt over LLD getting all the credit for "finding" mastina. I feel my case was actually a case and LadyLambdaDeltas was just "lets kill mastina because shes mastina. I didnt talk much about this during the game, because I didnt want to draw to much attention to myself with the PR.

[Vaxkiller]

Sam, you played great!

[Vaxkiller]

SirCakez mod of the year! Seriously cool game and thank you so much for dealing with all of us.

[Vaxkiller]

I didn’t feel the game was that toxic but I imagine most of it happened before I arrived

Yup

[Vaxkiller]

Same. I could see myself doing that. Town was just done. We had our town reads, and bingle was a ?

[Vaxkiller]

lol, after i checked you, you turned into IV turbo town!

[Vaxkiller]

we owe the ending to you dude! Good fucking find on Church!

[Vaxkiller]

Not wasted in my opinion. I'm sry it took a check for me to get past my own reads with the slot.

The funny part is, CHURCH convinced me to check you.

[Vaxkiller]

Gorilla played great and was super obv town, taht scum didnt kill! Ez to follow. So happy for that.

[Vaxkiller]

I would pat him on the back and say "that was incredible"


Then cry

[Vaxkiller]

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Unread post Post #383 (ISO) » Thu May 20, 2021 9:55 pm

tbh if the inno is IV they're likely not going to be a problem
if the inno is Johnny then that could be a problem.

Like, so many people are just trusting Vax and Toog's roles. I feel like the appropriate punish is to do something that makes them look bad

[Vaxkiller]

IV you rocked this!

[Vaxkiller]

I like the cut of your jib bingle!

[Vaxkiller]

Are all the LSG's played off site? I keep trying to find a thread somewhere to see how they are played and im not seeing it.