secret hitler round 2 [7/7] (fascists win!)

[The toad]

/in

[The toad]

Hello!

[The toad]

convince me to pick you MY POLITICAL UNDERLINGS

Chancellor is economics right? Us toads are very good at saving money

[The toad]

convince me to pick you MY POLITICAL UNDERLINGS

Chancellor is economics right? Us toads are very good at saving money

fashy post

this is going to be the same as last game isn't it LMAO

[The toad]

I was hoping to be a facist but datisi made me a liberal instead

I don't believe you

[The toad]

Likelihood of RRR early is pretty low

isn't it like 40% or am i doing this wrong

[The toad]

don't understand how this is AI for unwnd at all with a 3f claim

[The toad]

don't townread anyone tbh except maybe unwnd but that seems like it would 100% fail and after last game i want to get to be in gov at least once! hmm

[The toad]

toad frozen

lol

[The toad]

ok mena can be lib whatever

nom mena

[The toad]

pooky/peta fash tbh

[The toad]

if anything likely buddying up to menalque from toad

ok fascist

[The toad]

mena claims first, right?

[The toad]

I already claimed

i can't read ok

I got 2x F and 1x L

[The toad]

Easiest nein of my life

true

[The toad]

Toad what did u get?

pretty sure i already posted, but 2x F 1x L

[The toad]

We need to test a new pair

unwnd and poker maybe? still don't get why the first vote is meant to be AI for unwnd

[The toad]

i think according to claims we have as many F cards as L cards now which is interesting i guess? hopefully that's true because it'd be nice

[The toad]

I got 1 of each.

My notes:
sircakez nomed unwnd this lead to fascist choice
unwnd and chancellor menalque FAILS!
the toad and chancellor menalque lead to liberal
petapan and chancellor pokerface lead to liberal

What are card claims so far in order?

So its: FFF???FFL

what cards did toad and mena claim they got?

FFL -> FL -> L

[The toad]

mena/unwnd is fine

[The toad]

i'd prefer myself to unwnd and unwnd to pooky. i'd probably ja unwnd i guess

[The toad]

GREEN ME PLEASE

cakez if you're actually liberal here i'm so sorry LMAO

[The toad]

FL

[The toad]

i think it's most likely we have 2 in {unwnd, pooky, cakez} and 1 hitty in the Others

pooky is like unreadable though idk what to do with the unwnd/pooky situation

[The toad]

i mean technically we could have 3 libs and 2 fascist left right? it's just not likely at all

[The toad]

i mean technically we could have 3 libs and 2 fascist left right? it's just not likely at all

this reads like an empty post, i was trying to respond to the statement peta is confirmed lying

[The toad]

i can't tell if this logic makes zero sense or if i'm misunderstanding it

even if Cakez is telling the truth, don't we have 2 F cards left spare?

[The toad]

wait ok i'm dumb i forgot about a gov i need to recheck whatever i'm doing

[The toad]

wait no this adds up to 9 fascists i was right the first time

[The toad]

you can change your vote, i did it last round

[The toad]

anything wrong with poker + peta? one of them is probably hitler but like whatever

[The toad]

we have 2x F and 3x L left if claims are right. realistically we have 3x F and 2x L or maybe even 4x F 1x L

[The toad]

peta is fine even if cakez is implying that peta is hitler with his WIFOM skills

[The toad]

this is just fun FvF theatre right

[The toad]

this is so funny if cakez is fash but actually did draw 3F lmao

The best world is where this happened and Unwnd is hitler

[The toad]

toad, why were you thinking cakez/peta was F/F?

i mainly said that because i thought it would be funny if they were, but i do think the votecount for like 2 govs ago? (i'll bring it up) sorta implies unwnd/cakez/peta a bit. also I might have a tiny grudge from our argument earlier

[The toad]

voting results

the government of president

pooky

and chancellor

pokerface

FAILS!

JA (3/7)

1. pokerface
   
2. menalque
   
3. pooky

NEIN (4/7)

1. unwnd
   
2. the toad
   
3. sircakez
   
4. petapan

election tracker: 1/3

pokerface is the presidential candidate.

the thing that implied that team is Cakez choosing to vote nein on this team of two suspicious players. if pooky and poker are actually town, which they could be, this gov would be pretty terrible for them

[The toad]

i'm not taking that too seriously though

[The toad]

what's the claim at?

FFF FFL FFL FFL FFL ? which if true would mean LL are left, which seems... unlikely

i mean if you factor in Cakez being a fascist this is F/L which is likely enough

[The toad]

i think unwnd or pooky would be decent picks, personally. i don't think a cop check for poker means much since he's not trustworthy, but i guess creating another 1v1 would be nice if we can do it

[The toad]

either way, I am right in thinking that we no longer want either of peta/poker in govt, right?

we don't really want anyone in government except you and me tbh. Not really sure who we go about in third place because the remaining three have all been kinda sus

[The toad]

i mean this kind of play is normal enough for lib/town pooky yeah? i mean i don't have a great memory but i think they play like this normally

[The toad]

so who I check?
unwnd, pooky or mena?

I lean toward mena since that will help determine if cakez did give them 2 fs.

You all think this fine?

unwnd was in government with cakez, but go ahead, "check" him

not even being accusatory i just do not understand this logic. like cakez is F and discards a L, why don't we believe that's FFL? in which case yeah unwnd could still be fascist but i don't see how we read his alignment from that

[The toad]

i guess i have helped to plant a rain forest

to be fair, environmentalism is pretty liberal

[The toad]

toad, how much do you trust me?

willing to lose if you're fascist at this point. everyone else is scummy I have nothing else in this world

[The toad]

idk I think I should prob stay paired with toad?

maybe you pooky?

but I'm struggling to decide if it think fash is you/poker OR peta/unwnd

does this mean you've ruled out poker/unwnd?

[The toad]

wait, how can it be poker unwnd? why does poker bus him instead of claiming green?

it creates distance between them? granted I haven't thought about it very much, but I don't see why they wouldn't bus

[The toad]

toad, what do you think of cakez/pooky?

I think that cakez is very likely to be a fascist.

Pooky I am very slightly leading towards being town just because i don't trust unwnd

[The toad]

toad, what do you think of cakez/pooky?

I think that cakez is very likely to be a fascist.

Pooky I am very slightly leading towards being town just because i don't trust unwnd

This doesn't make any sense
That would make me scum with peta and Unwnd which makes 0 sense in the game state

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[The toad]

i mean as far as I can tell we're fucked in terms of "choosing 2 liberals in a pool of untrustworthy ppl" no matter what. We may as well try and get a lib passed this time around right?

[The toad]

well in the immediate future we only have to chosse 1 i think

[The toad]

I trust toad more than cakez

i sure fucking hope so

[The toad]

I'm not sure on poker town at all

i think it is probably poker over peta right now but that's only like 55/45 60/40 kind of thing

[The toad]

poker why did you ja that

[The toad]

probably poker over peta

probably poker fash you mean or probably poker lib?

Probably poker fash

[The toad]

If we do toad/mena we can have mena/whoever and that seems fine to me, the plan where this passes is slightly better from my pov but i think i'd rather not have unwnd rn

[The toad]

ok now i'm leaning back towards fascist pooky lol

[The toad]

i mean i was pretty close to backing a pooky chancellor nomination but i'm kind of backing out of that now. Unwnd or peta if we can pass a liberal next go

[The toad]

please can we go faster I really want to eat lol

i mean it's not impossible that we're just at cakez/poofy/poker and scum are just waiting for the game to end. unfortunately admin takes a long time with this setup (not mod's fault, just how it is)

[The toad]

nominate menalque

[The toad]

I actually didnt think I'd be playing this long I'm tired and honestly kinda bored

I'm about to vote ja out of spite

Last game I was suspicious and I had to scream into a void for an hour and a half, I think that's just the way the setup works sorry

[The toad]

i got 3f. chancellor is supposed to claim first but unless mena wants to claim he discarded a liberal i don't see the point.

i just choose mena for president yeah?

[The toad]

i got 3f. chancellor is supposed to claim first but unless mena wants to claim he discarded a liberal i don't see the point.

i just choose mena for president yeah?

I already claimed my dude

no pedits in marathon

[The toad]

pick menalque

[The toad]

if mena is hitler not only is that amazing play he is literally just the luckiest man alive and I will ask him to give me lottery numbers

[The toad]

By everyone's claims of my 3f being unlikely the toad should basically be confscum right now

just in case anyone doesn't see the flaw in his logic, the cards that are passed are taken out of the deck

[The toad]

i think you should pick peta > unwnd > anyone else

[The toad]

wait no hitler zone unwnd > peta probnably

[The toad]

well, i worked it out and the chances of getting 3f from my position were 38% pretty sure

[The toad]

the chance of us both getting 3f is 9% i think

[The toad]

i think poker can be hitty. he was kind of in a catch-22. he could get himself in a 1v1 or let us pass what was iirc the 4th liberal policy with 1 fasc policy

[The toad]

poker cannot be hitty, I think -> he'd have to be mental to make a play this ballsy if he's hitty as it basically means he never gets chancellor


poker cannot be hitty, I think -> he'd have to be mental to make a play this ballsy if he's hitty as it basically means he never gets chancellor

WHAT PLAY

I LITERALLY HAVENT GOTTEN TO DO ANYTHING ALL GAME ROFL

DAY PLAY EXISTS

[The toad]

if mena is hitty we lost tbh because i find it so difficult to pull 2 town out of (cakez, unwnd, poofy)

[The toad]

DAY PLAY EXISTS

lol i have been in 0 governments

maybe you would have been in a government if you played the game? idk

[The toad]

sorry i am probably being rude here i'll just sit here and wait

[The toad]

if you have any questions for me let me know. i've made it clear i think it's cakez + pooky + poker right now. i don't have anything else to say

[The toad]

i mean obviously f!pooky is going to lie since there are no flips yeah?

[The toad]

clearly cakez is hitler who actually got 3 fascist cards

[The toad]

i actually still think the most likely scenario is that poker is hitler who got caught in a catch-22

[The toad]

I'm thinking you're probably hitty actually toad, and were counting on me not shooting you despite the 3F claim

well i'm not really sure how i'm supposed to refute that. the rolls are what they are. if you have any questions for me you can ask them.

[The toad]

talk me through that

if you mean me;

Poker is hitler. He can pass liberal or he can pass fascist policy, he has the choice. But if he passes liberal, 1 more liberal policy is enough to win liberals the game. Can you really say for sure that Poker wouldn't take the chance on passing F?

[The toad]

i would push for this to be nommed but i feel like that would just convince everyone even more that i'm hitler

honestly think we just got screwed by RNG

[The toad]

ok so what now

[The toad]

i thought we can't do that

[The toad]

whatever yeah let's just rand

[The toad]

that seems like a serious nomination. am i supposed to ja it? i think peta is lib but i still don't really want to

[The toad]

menalque
sircakez
pokerface

if this is the team losing is acceptable i suppose

[The toad]

peta what do you think. do you want this

[The toad]

alright, this could end game i guess but like whatever

[The toad]

I had 2l 1f

?? ? ? ? ?

[The toad]

i have a confession to make. i'm fascist with peta and menalque is our hitler. the game is over. sorry liberals

[The toad]

so it was probably

FFL FFF FLL

which means uh

5F left and 3L

so the rand chance isn't great and we prob need to try to form a govt

you realize i was joking yes

[The toad]

if we lose because i made a joke about being scum with two almost conftown players i am going to scream loudly in the middle of the street

[The toad]

i mean to be fair that'd be a fitting ending to this game

[The toad]

no

why would you joke at this point, felt more like wifom

are you messing with me?

[The toad]

if i pass 2 fucking liberal policies i am not going to start openwolfing or lolcatting or wifoming or whatever at the very end of the game

i made a joke because everyone is tired. i'm sorry if you didn't find my joke funny.

[The toad]

people won't vote for it but unwnd/me is the right play here i think

[The toad]

oh god i'd be a chancellor yeah that's not happening
hope randomness likes us

[The toad]

on the other hand it'd be really good since i'd be confirmed not hitty and then maybe i could win the 1v1 vs unwnd if it actually happens

this is all assuming pooky was fascist, if pooky was lib i have no clue what has been happening this whole time

[The toad]

i know for a fact i am not hitler. i think peta is lib over poker. why would i ever nein that?

[The toad]

alright gg

[The toad]

yeah thanks for modding dats well done scum

[The toad]

clearly cakez is hitler who actually got 3 fascist cards

[The toad]

the way you were like "I guess we're just in that world" really reminded me of the arguments I've pulled out in the past when scum and have been mechanically caught

to be fair what else do I say in this scenario

[The toad]

Why did toad have to make a joke

i don't think that joke actually had any impact on the game, but i'll stop making jokes after the first few pages from now on i guess

[The toad]

I'm legit quite sad, I really tried this game and it just all went so badly wrong

9% ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

hold on i gotta go calculate the odds of Cakez getting 3f and see if it's 9%

[The toad]

it's 24% ok not even close

btw if anyone has any advice for how can i improve my game i'd like that, i actually tried this game and i thought we were going to win at one point but it just wasn't meant to be

[The toad]

Being randomly frozen out

We were literally about to nominate you for chancellor before you decided to give up though