Micro 1015: Sadohydrachism II (Game over)

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WHY DID I NOT GET JESTER WTF

1/3 chance you did!

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town this time friends so i owe it to my hydra partners to be useful

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damn pooky is scum again

does pooky really feel the same to you here

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well not the exact same but in comparable mafia indicative ways? or have i taken your post too seriously?

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Bugs or shiki? hes pocketing you right now ...

brain worms

GeorgeBailey (who is not affiliated with this account) will sign his posts.

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im not a hundred percent sure but pooky definitely isn't town here. I could see him as jester but I mean killing jester day 1 is fine by me too. just don't kill vt day 1. that's the goal here.

well if you are town then this is true. as i am town and wind jewels is TOWN, thus!! but now how do i know you are not the one pocketing

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I have the IC to pocket and I have Raya to pocket. Why would I decide to come mess with bugs and shiki?

sad that we are the bottom of the list of pocketable people

but more importantly

this feels

hmmmm

well if you are town raya is not town, if you are mafia you would know if raya is jester, so jester or town indicative? maybe? or am i lost

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Setup looks like this:
Ydraisis - ic
me - vt
poownd - jester/mafia
pare - jester/mafia/vt
rayugnus - jester/mafia/vt

we're already half solved

wind jewels
brain worms

everyone else - ???

importantly this is all of the way solved as long as wind jewels knows it is true (which it is)

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now I think ur scum. why would a sentence like that "feel"?

all sentences 'feel'

you considering raya as someone to pocket here is noteworthy, and i was trying to see if you would comment on the last part, about the ways in which it was noteworthy, as i presented it in a messy way, you see, one that leaves room for town to go, hey wait, why does it mean that, but instead,

you object to the process

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Your bottom part is scummy af now that I reread. literally you just assumed pooky was town almost as if ... you were scum

????

the bottom part assumes

you

are town (or at least not mafia) not pooky even though it does not necessarily follow from 'raya is pocketable'

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town elims VT -> VT-IC-Mafia endgame

but what if the ic self-votes in this situation?

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i am glad everyone is taking turns saying 'i am town and so is the innocent child'

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its actually wild how easy I am to read :>

do you think most players think this is true of themselves?

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its actually wild how easy I am to read :>

do you think most players think this is true of themselves?

I dunno what most people think of themselves

i do not either; i guess that is why i was asking you

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fuck

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fuck

is this a bugspray post

is bugspray in this hydra

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fuck

is this a bugspray post

is bugspray in this hydra

there is no bugspray
there is only brainworms
wriggling around
dancing
laughing
EATING YOUR BRAIN

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MY POCKETS ARE VAST AND CAVERNOUS

i have a pickaxe, bitch

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alright i know how to figure out who is scum
Nf6
someone fight me
-GeorgeBailey

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pretend that was 1. Nf3

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fuck

is this a brainworms post

is brainworms in this hydra

there is no brainworms
there is only brainworms

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honestly if i was scum i would jester bait. basically pooky as a person allegedly isn't that evil but the question is does pooky throw morals out the window in game threads like a true tryhard mafia player

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Also what's good

we are

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should we should eliminate -raya and -magnus?

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should we should eliminate -raya and -magnus?

how likely does anyone think it is that they are traitor?

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anyone want to play connect 4

first person to beat me gets immunity for the day no questions asked

anyone who loses 2 games against me gets voted out

- rahu

/in connect 4

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that's my first move. what is your reply?

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VOTE: chillin
how about you play mafia

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VOTE: unvote fuckin jester giving me brainworms

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what more do you want me to do?

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look at our avatar!!!

also our avatar is kind of rough actually cause i'm a bad editor

this feels like a towny progression

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Pooky seems extremely scummy on page3. am I offbase??
-Yomi

nah not offbase pooky talking about the setup felt !!! but could have been thought through in that way as mafia in previous game i guess

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I think the best meta-strategy to this setup is actually like to use the d1 time allotment to ascertain the 2 scummiest players in the game, then eliminate the one that is -less scummy-, then go to limlo and eliminate the one that was scummier actually

are you sure it isn't this:

should we should eliminate -raya and -magnus?

should we should eliminate -raya and -magnus?

how likely does anyone think it is that they are traitor?

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like you are town and we are town and the two scummiest are absolutely chillin and kookiemonster to me... but if we're more confident that -raya and -magnus at not traitor then voting -raya and -magnus potentially(???) the better option

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I've read that like 14 times and still can't understand it

absolutely chillin 1 is saying that absolutely chillin 2 has made most of the posts in this game and that the rest of the playerlist is expected to know because absolutely chillin 2 says 'cuz' and absolutely chillin 1 would not because hooliganism, i believe

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i think sommers is scum. feels afraid to vibe and trying to not slip info
scum knows who the jester is and that's how the info that will cloud their posts to force them to unwillingly and unwittingly post ai info that gets them yeeted
sommers seems like someone who is trying to not get read and put in low efford while looking big effordt

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You

do you think a lot about like game flow

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You

do you think a lot about like game flow

what?

like when you can feel the winds of change

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like when you can feel the winds of change

?????????

so sommers is scummy now to you right but were they always where did that come from

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Magnus is obvscumming

if they're

obv

scumming wouldn't that make the more likely conclusion jester

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Magnus is obvscumming

if they're

obv

scumming wouldn't that make the more likely conclusion jester

no because I dont think pooky is scum anymore so that means he's jester

do you think magnus knows how to obvscum on cue? as how to play as jester was difficult for me as i am usually confused as to why people want to eliminate me when they do

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do you think magnus knows how to obvscum on cue? as how to play as jester was difficult for me as i am usually confused as to why people want to eliminate me when they do

doubt he's doing it on purpose

do you try to avoid corners as mafia or do you think the immediate benefit outweighs the difficulty of having to find a way out down the line

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We've played together at least twice
-Yomi

sadohydrachism i and sadohydrachism ii

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I can be your devil or your angle

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okay so

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That's exactly why the solve makes sense though.

the mafia really need to eliminate the jester here

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so so so so so

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chillin says sommers jester/kookie mafia
sommers says kookie mafia/chillin jester
kookie says sommers mafia?/chillin mafia?

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which probably gives us

sommers/chillin mafia
kookie jester

ya?

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kookie says sommers mafia?/chillin mafia?

i guess this seems to be more sommers mafia/chillin jester right now

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which probably gives us

sommers/chillin mafia
kookie jester

ya?

which would give us more

sommers/chillin mafia
sommers/kookie jester

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If you take my name out ya mouth you'll be on the right track

well without you it is sommers jester chillin mafia

but

there's the whole absolutely chillin not feeling the same and so forth to deal with in that situation

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Why doesn't kookie mafia/chillin jester work?

-Magnus

kookie would be trying to get chillin eliminated by voting for you and hoping we disagree then?

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Why doesn't kookie mafia/chillin jester work?

-Magnus

kookie would be trying to get chillin eliminated by voting for you and hoping we disagree then?

which is not impossible because they can just come back on for free but it seems less likely that they'd be mafia and pushing you primarily instead of chillin if chillin was jester

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and you being UTR

right but this is why the mafia have to eliminate the jester here

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I didn't consider jesters self-voting at L-1 in that game

I have now considered this

-Magnus

it was probably indicative of me to have shown that i had considered it last game but for some reason (probably the brainworms) i thought it would have the reverse effect of why would they show they have considered this if they are jester

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I didn't consider jesters self-voting at L-1 in that game

I have now considered this

-Magnus

it was probably indicative of me to have shown that i had considered it last game but for some reason (probably the brainworms) i thought it would have the reverse effect of why would they show they have considered this if they are jester

though i had also considered it while looking over the setup before role pms so hmmm

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which probably gives us

sommers/chillin mafia
kookie jester

ya?

sigh. have to actually solve between sommers/chillin now instead of the game being solved for free.

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i just do not understand how you being most likely jester wasn't the conclusion to everyone i guess.

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I think its bc im just good >:3

well you are good that isn't in doubt. it's just that you had to be jester here like 80% of the time based on the way everyone viewing the game. everyone who agreed that we were town would have to think you by far the most likely jester.

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it's just that you had to be jester here like 80% of the time based on the way everyone viewing the game.

probably more.

any interest in catching the mafia or do you feel that would be unfair as regardless of which they helped you achieve your win condition?

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Not sure if they think that makes them look better because their hands are clean of the wagon, but it doesn't

regardless of which they helped you achieve your win condition?

hard to tell if trying to appeal to me



(sorry about end of day kookiemonster; i was not trying to imply that you had not played well, simply frustrated with my inability to show what i saw to anyone else)

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uhhhhhhh going to need brainworm collective for this

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maybe i should have hammered someone and not posted anything else so the town amongst you would have thought i had fooled them until lilith arrived

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113 looks very different in hindsight. Chillin literally did just enter the game with a kamikaze attack the jester strat. Also, it's interesting that they never vote kookie after we had earlier. Based on their confidence on kookie being scum, they should have, but instead, they wait for Parela/Wand Jowels to vote them first

-Magnus

this applies to sommers 365 as well right:

do you think magnus knows how to obvscum on cue? as how to play as jester was difficult for me as i am usually confused as to why people want to eliminate me when they do

doubt he's doing it on purpose

do you try to avoid corners as mafia or do you think the immediate benefit outweighs the difficulty of having to find a way out down the line

whereas chillin as mafia would have done the kamikaze jester strat
sommers as mafia would have had to have put themselves in a position where they are townreading brainworms, town or jester reading chillin, and pushing to eliminate kookiemonster which is indeed a corner

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but i do not believe sommers to by corner-averse in fact i think they are aware and sometimes play up their unawareness to things, which could have been what was happening here:

and you being UTR

right but this is why the mafia have to eliminate the jester here

Hmm, perhaps. I hadn't considered that factor, it's possible kookie didn't either

-Magnus

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also im town cuz I dont shoot Isis even if she's an IC

is this because fooling wind jewels is an accomplishment

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rosa anka, gron anka, gul anka,

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it seems strange that you are considering us to be town because we considered options as opposed to the fact that the game would be over and we would currently be being fitted for crowns if we were mafia

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idk ignoring the crossvote to make a case as to why one of the other two slots is more likely mafia than the other is kinda wild mafia play though

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sorry for the delay

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Good luck, Parela. We don't mind losing here if you vote Chillin,

so hard to shake this post; it's like... you should mind? because we shouldn't play the way we played here if we can't solve this? and even if we choose correctly we've already largely failed in this regard because we did not

know

This isn't a game I've exactly given a lot of thought outside of whenever I come in post.

but if you're town you still chose correctly here (same goes for absolutely chillin) so there hasn't been a need for you to have given a lot of thought

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do you even read the nonsense you write

tone of this feels far off and also this familiar from you

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brainworms summit has led to me searching for something wiser worms believed would be there if absolutely chillin were mafia and not finding it,

pedit: hi lilith

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but if you're town you still chose correctly here (same goes for absolutely chillin) so there hasn't been a need for you to have given a lot of thought

well actually only absolutely chillin chose correctly, which was apparently unwnd if who we assume to be pooky is to be believed, as the game was then already chosen for everyone excepting us

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Pooky told me I am apparently really town when I am town

So here I am

so one would have to assume the the hydra pt would be like

unwnd you're really town when you are town so go post so brainworms get this right
okay i posted that more or less because game is solved so idk what to say

if town

which kinda makes sense to me

as mafia it would be like

unwnd you're really town as town but you are not town here so it is hard to establish that so just go say that i said this
or
unwnd simply deciding to say that without consultation with pooky

which kinda makes less sense

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but would raya really have thought

appearing to sort the slots in a solved game will get me townread

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but would raya really have thought

appearing to sort the slots in a solved game will get me townread

the other option here would be that raya did not consider the crossvote but mafia would be acutely aware of this yeah?

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the other option here would be that raya did not consider the crossvote but mafia would be acutely aware of this yeah?

so it would be feigning unawareness of the crossvote to also get townread

maybe starting to squint too much and there is a simpler reasoning for this even if mafia

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anything else we can do to help you solve this?

today has been like

'absolutely chillin is mafia and here is why...'

vs

sommers 365 is mafia! because they are! and thus fake too!

which should lean towards you being mafia? but for some reason is currently having the opposite effect on me

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Mhm, very accurate and realistic assumption that you definitely really thought for a first RVS post

town, last game

Right, we're scum because I've posted more words this time in a game that's lasted longer than the last one. This is definitely a genuine read you have

???

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Them coming out gunning to kill kookie with no paranoia on potential jestering is obvscum.

you considering that kookie might be jester but still pushing for their elimination and saying kookie/chillin in any order reads similarly to me

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hey wait a second here...

yea cuz that sweet sweet wand kill is so important to me that I decided to vote instantly right away at the beginning of the day

also unwnd didnt even consult with me b4 he voted them cuz he's too much of a stud to ask me questions like "who's scum"

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the me/I refers to both of us

hmmm this just feels like an unnatural way to refer to a partner's actions in a hydra

our hydra clearly didn't give a shit about the wandkill since we just voted right away.

it would just mean that you think it would be easier to fool us (probably me specifically) if you were mafia, which i already asked 'is this because fooling wind jewels is an accomplishment' for this reason

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strange path from here:

noraa town wants to kill VT over Jester and Mafia over VT

Jester d1 elim is the worst case for the town

to there:

Words words words words

I don't need to think because I literally only have to be right. I was half-right on Noraa even if she wasn't the scum

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I literally said just go between Noraa/Sommers and you win the game

right but sommers said the same thing about you/kookie and the conclusion was therefore that kookie the likely the traitor so eliminate either you/sommers avoid having to rely on obviously ill-equipped me to figure this out rewrite entire game

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VOTE: absolutely chillin