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Bold of you to assume I read RVSIn post 28, Roden wrote:
This is only my second game, so I had to look up what this is. Interesting role tbh. I guess the only way to verify this would be if a Gunsmith checked you?In post 20, T3 wrote:By the way, I think I should claim here. I'm an Informed Miller.
Also, I'm assuming you need to save this information for later. Otherwise you'd just tell us.
UNVOTE: T3
VOTE: Rannygazoo since he voted for an (alleged) Informed Miller.
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Hmm, yes, very wiseIn post 29, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Unrelated note: Do not harrass the Mafia, as they are a Minority. Instead, harrass the town.
This post was inspired by rule 4- Rannygazoo
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Is this scummy self-awareness too?
In post 24, excallq wrote:I am posting because it will look suspicious if I don't.
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Your case is paper-thin and your deflection is pathetic. Your bloodline will not survive the winter.In post 45, bugspray wrote:
thats clearly ironic and you're scum for trying to deflect off your partnerIn post 43, Rannygazoo wrote:Is this scummy self-awareness too?
In post 24, excallq wrote:I am posting because it will look suspicious if I don't.
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Explain how I clearly was. I think my shift from being in the game to not being in the game is pretty clear.In post 68, Roden wrote:That's true for any alignment lol. It's the fact that you said you weren't paying attention even though you clearly were is what feels off to me.
Titus has played with me before and she can confirm that I don’t always read carefully in the beginning. Or maybe she doesn’t pay that much attention to my play, I dunno.- Rannygazoo
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Am I shading Roden? I feel like I’m just trying address their doubts about me while assuming good faith.In post 69, T3 wrote:I lowkey don't like ramy or rodens shading of each other.- Rannygazoo
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Of all the things I saw, 24 was the most scum-indicative. It looked like nervous scum who didn’t know what to say. Joking to alleviate the nervousness is a tactic.In post 86, T3 wrote:
This looked pretty clearly like a joke to me.In post 24, excallq wrote:I am posting because it will look suspicious if I don't.
I mean hello everyone.
However, the fact that cw agrees with me makes me rethink it. I was in cw’s last game and I have some thoughts about it, but I’ll keep them to myself for as long as they remain irrelevant to finding scum in this game.- Rannygazoo
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I s2g if he comes back and prodges again I’m making him the policy elim
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Ok I’m going to take the bait here. VOTE: Titus
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1) I never said that. Get your eyes checked or stop lying, whichever it is.In post 223, Roden wrote:agrees that a policy elim on a town player sounds like a good idea.
2) How do you know T3 is town? Do you know something you’re not sharing? You were super sensitive about it in 28 too.- Rannygazoo
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Sorry, I overlooked this post. You said DGB was pushing a “town policy elim”, implying that T3 is confirmed town to you.In post 228, Roden wrote:
This was in response to multiple people suggesting that DGB was acting anti-town and was possibly a Traitor. This certainly isn't a neutral stance from you, so are you saying you disagree with DGB?In post 151, Rannygazoo wrote:I kind of don’t see it? DGB suggested a policy elim to simplify the game when there was nothing else to go on, and there’s still nothing else to go on. I’m waiting for something else to happen.
You're welcome to quote where I said I know T3 is town. You shouldn't need to put words in my mouth if you're in the right, so support your claim with some evidence.
I never agreed with DGB that a policy elim on a Miller claim is a good idea. I just meant that can’t blame him for trying when there’s nothing else going on.
Now I understand what Titus meant with the bait post. There weren’t any good leads, but we have to elim someone.- Rannygazoo
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For the record I think Titus is town. At first I thought this was a gambit, but now I see that she was offering to help since she’s too busy to play at the moment.
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Wrong, this post will solve the game. Just you wait.In post 236, Roden wrote:In post 233, Rannygazoo wrote:You want something clarified? I thought you just wanted to spout nonsense.
This doesn't help either of us if you're town. Build a case against me if you think I'm scum instead just posting ad hominem.- Rannygazoo
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How do you tell the difference on day 1?In post 243, T3 wrote:Anti town != scum- Rannygazoo
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You were acting like the miller claim was above reproach. With very few exceptions, only scum knows who is town at this point.In post 240, Roden wrote:I have very little reason not to believe the Miller claim, but it isn't confirmed to me. I don't think I can confirm that with any role Day 1 unless I'm scum. (If I'm wrong, someone correct me. I suppose you could argue I'm Informed but that would be weird to be Informed about an Informed role.)
You can't imaginary self meta yourself out of this. Scum will push to elim some slots and buddy other slots and generally try to blend in. They don't try to elim everyone indiscriminately. I see no reason why you and T3 can't be scum partners.Which, if I am scum, I should have no problem with voting T3 out. If I'm scum then I just sheep DGB and push the policy vote. I don't fight it.
I can't speak for DGB, but in general, a vote with an explanation is not an attempt to end the day.Even with limited experience, I don't think agreeing with a policy elim on a Miller Day 1 is a pro town move. Even if nothing else is going on. It's hard to believe we can't make even a single scum squirm Day 1 with thirteen players and ten days to poke at people.
Why should I be obligated to fuss over it? DGB got into that mess partly because of my question. I didn't have anything else to add. I didn't think it was scummy either.It's implied that you were fine with it since you didn't disagree and your post wasn't neutral about it. If you do disagree with it, why are both of you immediately jumping on me when I bring it up? Why aren't you questioning DGB when you're the one who wanted his speculation take on the set up? That's what feels off to me.
I don't think I'm "immediately jumping on you". I think I've been patient.
The accusations as DGB being traitor are just hot air as far as I'm concerned. DGB said some things that can be intrepreted as antitown, and someone was like "that's so bad that DGB must be signalling to scum". It's just far-fetched.
However, I do see how DGB's last vote plays into your theory. If DGB is mafia or traitor, then by associating with me, it can clear itself if I'm eliminated and you see I'm town. I'm probably just being paranoid, though.- Rannygazoo
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Can you explain these TRs?In post 258, Jessica Rabbit wrote:I like egix, jake and vfp the most rn. I didn’t really like DGB’s wanted to lim T3 based on the miller claim. You should only lim a miller claim for the same reasons as anyone else - because you actually think they’re scum and it seemed to me that DGB’s sole reason for pushing T3 was the claim. If she gave other reasons for this, I don’t recall.- Rannygazoo
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It was a newbie game and the mod was focused on retaining new players. (And maybe the mod didn't want to bring anyone new into such a miserable game.)In post 289, Egix96 wrote:
How does that even happen... I thought it was a three-strike system?In post 284, Rannygazoo wrote:Cw was prodded six times in our last game.
You can already see the pattern with cw: apologize for being inactive, post something that proves he's not following, bounce, repeat. Just eliminate the slot.- Rannygazoo
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In post 317, Titus wrote:I like Jessica Rabbit as town.- Rannygazoo
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I would say tunneling. The traitor discourse started when Jake was wondering if T3's alleged cop could be a mafia cop. It seemed to spiral out of control from there.In post 296, DrippingGoofball wrote:My question to everyone is,
Is Jake tunneling or is it a fake scum case?
Jessica Rabbit's reads look like they're for appearance's sake.- Rannygazoo
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I guess I wanted to see reasons to townread them backed up by evidence, not a vague statement you could say about anyone. These are such boring, uncontroversial townreads on players who aren't really on my radar. VFP is the dophin, right? Who is egix?In post 310, Jessica Rabbit wrote:
They all seem to be trying to solve and making logical and nuanced reads. That usually comes from town.In post 286, Rannygazoo wrote:
Can you explain these TRs?In post 258, Jessica Rabbit wrote:I like egix, jake and vfp the most rn.
This feels like bandwagonning. It feels like you're trying to make it looks like you have opinions without having them stand out.In post 309, Jessica Rabbit wrote:They’re reads/votes in this game are objectively horrible. They want to lim T3 solely based on miller claim. T3 trs you based on meta and dgb just dismisses that. Town looks for reasons to make townreads and dgb just quashes that without any good reason.- Rannygazoo
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I don't have a well-formed opinion on VFP or egix and I find it weird that you do.In post 329, Jessica Rabbit wrote: So who do you think is scum? Who do you think I’m wrong on? Let’s start with that.
I think cw is scum, and then the other two are you and one of VFP or egix. Probably egix since VFP is voting for cw. There, that's my day 1 solve. The game's still young and things can change, but if it turns out I'm right, I will definitely remember.- Rannygazoo
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Noted that there's absolutely nothing behind your townreads.In post 331, Jessica Rabbit wrote:
It’s my current take. I also lean to believing the miller claim. I’m not going to try to convince anyone of anything because the only thing I’m 100% sure of is of course me. I currently think this so rn don’t see any reason to question it unless you think there’s something I’m not seeing. Without flips, I’m in the dark. If you’re expecting any extremely confident reads today, then you will be sorely disappointed.In post 328, Rannygazoo wrote:Instead just saying "I like their posts", can you point to specific things they said that are town-indicative? I want townreads too. Convince me that yours are right.- Rannygazoo
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No, he was brought to the end and cast the losing vote. You can thank me for not ranting more about that game. But his behavior at the beginning was different. He was active and interested before dropping off and getting prodded 6 times. He wasn't cagey "but I'm on mobile" with all his answers.In post 336, Jessica Rabbit wrote:Ranny, did cw flip scum in that game?- Rannygazoo
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You're the one who put egix in your townreads! Why do you need my help to justify it?In post 337, Jessica Rabbit wrote:
I’m the only JR on this playerlist and I’m definitely not scum. So unless you’re referring to something else, that doesn’t help me at all.In post 333, Rannygazoo wrote:My egix read is literally only based on scum!JR wanting to put a single scum in her townreads list. It is not based on anything else.- Rannygazoo
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No default daytalk-- could be an enabler or some shenanigansIn post 361, Roden wrote:I don't think scum has a private thread in this game. That's what I assume no default day talk means, unless that refers to something else?
My guess is he almost slipped something about the scum team that isn't common knowledgeIn post 362, Egix96 wrote:
What does that have to do with anything?In post 353, cw357 wrote:oh shit this is a closed setup- Rannygazoo
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Guess #2: it means it was harder to pick something to fake claim.In post 363, Rannygazoo wrote:
My guess is he almost slipped something about the scum team that isn't common knowledgeIn post 362, Egix96 wrote:
What does that have to do with anything?In post 353, cw357 wrote:oh shit this is a closed setup
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Cw can heal T3 and vig can shoot T3 to verify town alignmentIn post 398, Jake The Wolfie wrote:How would a Doctor be helpful if T3 is town?
Of course, T3 just dies if cw is lying or is roleblocked
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I feel like I could make a case against bugthey but y’all are probably tired of me after cw.In post 424, Roden wrote:
It's because we're the only ones with votes atm. It seems like no one wants to draw attention and heavily push one of these potential wagons over another.In post 415, cw357 wrote:
uhhhhhhhIn post 395, Roden wrote:Also, we only have three days left and the wagons all feel like they're losing steam. Are we looking at pursuing a wagon against one of DGB, Ranny, Excallq,or myself? Or is there interest on someone else?
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I’ll ISO dive later, but the short answer is they were hyperagressive to begin with and then dropped off once someone (DGB) picked up heat. This feels like a scum mindset— as long as the attention is on someone else, they can coast.In post 435, Roden wrote:
It can't hurt, so I don't see why not.In post 432, Rannygazoo wrote:
I feel like I could make a case against bugthey but y’all are probably tired of me after cw.In post 424, Roden wrote:
It's because we're the only ones with votes atm. It seems like no one wants to draw attention and heavily push one of these potential wagons over another.In post 415, cw357 wrote:
uhhhhhhhIn post 395, Roden wrote:Also, we only have three days left and the wagons all feel like they're losing steam. Are we looking at pursuing a wagon against one of DGB, Ranny, Excallq,or myself? Or is there interest on someone else?
Do you want to hear it, though?
+1In post 438, DrippingGoofball wrote:I am digging cw's recent posting streak.- Rannygazoo
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Ok, joking aside, your reads look super fabricated right now and you’re only making it worse. Maybe take a step back and think about how to fix it.In post 455, excallq wrote:
Well if it's allowed then presumably "eat a" is also allowed, but if you want me to stop calling out your scum buddy you can just say that.In post 452, Rannygazoo wrote:Shut the up
VOTE: excallq
*checks rules to see if I’m allowed to say that*
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It’s okay, you’re okay, deep breaths, don’t escalateIn post 472, excallq wrote:
Fucking read your post back. It's rude as shit and your inability to understand "I think you are feigning being pro-town" as a read is absurd.In post 468, Jessica Rabbit wrote: How is it “borderline abusive”?- Rannygazoo
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I’m not assuming there is a vig. It’s just a possibility. Cw brought up the strategy when he claimed.In post 475, Titus wrote:
I agree here.In post 422, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
And why would we assume there is a vigilante?In post 401, Rannygazoo wrote:
Cw can heal T3 and vig can shoot T3 to verify town alignmentIn post 398, Jake The Wolfie wrote:How would a Doctor be helpful if T3 is town?
Of course, T3 just dies if cw is lying or is roleblocked
There’s your daily does of IIOA
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This makes me feel better about voting you. It’s prudent to keep in mind that the role claim may be false, but keeping a town loyal doctor as elim bait is definitely scum agenda.In post 471, excallq wrote:
Are we assuming your disappearance means that your exchange with Roden didn't happen? If so probably CW. I am abundantly skeptical of his roleclaim, (though I would absolutely not push for a day 1 vote of him). Otherwise Roden.In post 469, Rannygazoo wrote:@excallq how about this: if I were out of the picture and my slot never existed, who would your biggest scumread be?- Rannygazoo
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Is “she” canon?In post 483, Titus wrote:VOTE: T3
There's no real scum motivation for shading an outed doctor claim, while honestly assessing his content. If DGB is believable that she might vote cw at some point, then it could keep a doctor alive. If she's right, she undermines scum credibility.
If DGB is scum, why shade a town cw with a short shelf life? They could just kill it and no one is the wiser. If it's scum, why attack her teammates credibility which only shortens the lifespan?
You could argue wifom but attacking an outed doctor claim rarely comes from scum.
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