Mini Normal 2214 || Game Over!

[T3]

Good morning! I'm about to sleep!

I think I've only ever played with T3 here, who will be surviving day 1 no matter how scummy they are.

Ongoing games be like....

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I've seen them killed twice in the last calendar week. Both town mislims. Idc if they come in claiming scum

Another ongoing game
Also you might wantto take that quote out of your sig.

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Good morning Johnny Farrar's head and hat.

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What even isthat avatar? It just looks like a bunch of colors.

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I don't think what Sigmund did was ai. My gut is telling me dwelee's tone is off.

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I think I know who Sigmund is but I don't want to say it because I might be wrong lol

Dwelee seems townier.

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Dwelee seems townier.

just when i was starting to think hm maybemaybe

???

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Okay sigmund is town.

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Okay sigmund is town.

Could you elaborate on this?

It's the deliberate attention grabbing stuff scum usually want to avoid early game.

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I assume anya is claiming odd night doc....

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I think jake is town but less sure on that one.

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VOTE: humaneatingmonkey
Absolutely terrible rebuttal.

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You seem like annoyed flailing scum.

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I'm SURE this is a town-motivated wagon.

NOT!

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qJohnny is town.

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I townread sigmund and idk about Jake.

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Hi someone who is totally not hectic.

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This is blatant pagetop theivery!

monkey might be town. Hectic idk,I don't have a good readon him by tone yet.

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UNVOTE: hem
This seems pretty towny assessing the wagon.

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I'm saying the way he assessed his wagon was towny. I worded that poorly.

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Rae is weird for voting me because I didn't think that was a good reason, but I'm not sure if it's a made-up reason. Messy Anne feels like they were trying to put their vote on something productive, but I have no idea what's on their head.

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In my wagon:

→ Sigmund, whose current activities include desperately pushing for a quickhammer before page 10 on a slot he doesn't have a read yet, throwing meaningless votes, and going for an OMGUS wagon for bogus reasons.
→ Johnny, who agrees that my thought process is "fake af", but hasn't really demonstrated why. (You really think my thought process is fake, in contrast to Sigmund here?)
→ Anne, who thinks Sigmund is "moving the game forward and causing people to make positive statements." (How??)
→ Jake, who thinks I was town because I pushed Sigmund but still puts his vote on my wagon anyway despite that it's Sigmund that started it. This guy even actively tries to stop people from discussing Sigmund, the loudest player on this game, for no apparent reason. (Why are you even doing that?)

Yeah. I'm SURE this is a town-motivated wagon. I have no idea why people think Sigmund is town for how he's playing here.

VOTE: humaneatingmonkey
Absolutely terrible rebuttal.

It was more the "IM SURE THIS IS TOWN MOTIVATED" that caught my eye at first, which led me to vote him.

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VOTE: T3
Jake works too but I feel better about dead!T3

Quickexpln
Votes monke because single phrase felt off
Unvotes monke because monke (T3's top scumread at the time) explained why his wagon was bad
Doesn't vote anyone else

This is a weak reason to scumread someone, and it was T3's top suspect. T3 feels like they are not game solving. T3 also feels more inclined to explain their own actions rather than to question others.

I was asked to explain why I unvoted.

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Everytime monkey posts the more like I think they are town.

Same.

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VOTE: Jake.
I reread their iso and didn't like the behavior aroundthe Anya wagon at all. Like it almost felt like a fakrsolve to get towncred.

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^ if you squint you can really see johnny/not hectic/t3

Incorrect.

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Because I'm town and he is a townie wanting to know someone elses reasoning?

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Solving the game and reads I agree with.

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Didn't see that kill coming. Okay. Catching up.

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I believe Johnny that we shouldn't elim T3 for reasons also

so you believe we should not eliminate t3 for 'reasons', not hectic believes johnny is town for 'reasons', and johnny is now maybe reevaluating with regards to t3

Look either this is scum grand conspiracy where everyone in the neighborhood is scum or johhny and hectic are correct town.

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Flirty alt? Pooky confirmed

nah this is way too much of a dickhead to be pooky.

Lmao I've been thinking Pooky since d1 lol

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tbh I've been reading the brazen openwolfing by Sigmund as town but like it's also brazen openwolfing VOTE: Sigmund

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Oh-that was just a phrase, not a claim.

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I have a lot of trs but no strong srs.

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Sigmund Anne and Rae.

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You town read the other 7 people?

To some degree,yes.

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Oh-that was just a phrase, not a claim.

...

are you a traitor?

no.......?

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Wow I'm really bad at softing neighbor LOL.

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I don't want to say why.

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You'll see soon.

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Actually I think almost all of the normals I've played there has been a traitor.

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Mods being mods.
Tbh sigmund is basically just openwolfing and hoping he'll get by with annoying people.

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Didn't he say something happened rl?

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You will see.

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Sigmund is essentially openwolfing and trying to annoy people. And the jake quickhammer was weird.

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I don't remember really having a read on him at that point.

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Not that something would happen, it might, but there is more to our claim.

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Did I miss something or how do we know there is a vig?

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Messy Anne is koba, right?

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Messy Anne is koba, right?

there's no way you think this right

I see that koba posted once in the threadso idk

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I see that koba posted once in the threadso idk

how did you look at the context of that post and not hectic saying 'oops slipped' and come to the conclusion messy anne was koba

I didn't actually look at the post - oops.

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fwiw I didn't know.

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Last time T3 played with my main I was an extremely active poster. I don't see how they could have thought that I was Anne here and this sort of ignorance feels weird to me.

I mentioned it because it might be a scumtell that you weren't posting as much.

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I worded that badly.
Basically I saw koba posted. I tought koba was anne and mentioned it because it might be a scumtell. I then was told that koba was not anne so I discarded the thought.

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You also played against a scum me that posted just as much

I actually don't remember that but I think I also played against you as scum on an alt.

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I don't not want to vote anne I'd just rather vote sigmund.

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Gotta trust me on this one, info dumping everything is really bad and doesn't help town at all. No matter who dies, our existence in the game helps town. We'll reveal it at lelo.

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Gotta trust me on this one, info dumping everything is really bad and doesn't help town at all. No matter who dies, our existence in the game helps town. We'll reveal it at lelo.

why would i trust this when this is exactly what mafia would be looking to do

I can understand where you're coming from, but you're wrong.

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I can understand where you're coming from, but you're wrong.

about all of you? and you are sure of this somehow?

All will become clear in due time.

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It is potentially possible for a player to be confirmed as town beyond a reasonable doubt by the things we are doing.

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Just completely ignore everything I said until lylo.

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by noted I mean I'm going to murder-rate you tommorrow dont nightkill me coward

VOTE: Anya

wait when you put anya at E-1 you thought we were still in RVS?

Ya, Anya wasn't scummy at that point. Somebody said that wagons are good for reads so I wagoned.

If I'm scummy to you, you need your reads meter checked. Chill out playa, it's day 1 and I've posted like 3 times.

T3 can I assume that y'all are town for a VCA?

sure.

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/regrets about limming jake = honestly none/

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T3 are you sure you should wait with any of this info? You're essentially claiming that yourself, Johnny, and Hectic are goodTM, correct?

Not hectic yet, but we should wait.

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VOTE: Mini
I reread Messy Anne's ISO and I feel okay about this but would prefer Sigmund. E-1.

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What's up Shiki?

you don't think oh slot has been replaced let's e-1 quick is scummy? especially when someone on the wagon has been saying 'let's wait and see' all day?

We want the replacement to feel the pressure - I never said to hammer it.

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"rolestopper"
as town?
See oska in mini normal 2211. VOTE: mini
Nah.

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Do I claim?

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Johnny and I are macho doctor masons.

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Johnny and I are macho doctor masons.

do you have any information about vfp (not hectic)?

No.

We targeted you and anya then you and dw.

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Just look at me johnny interactions from earlier.

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Nero is a meta sr. VOTE: vfp

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Actually UNVOTE: vfp
idk where the vc is at.

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Honestly if VFP is town that's borderline throwing.

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I think we have a better chance of Rae getting as check off if we kill VFP first because VFP could have a way to block Rae's action from going through.

you think there's a higher chance of vfp being a roleblocker than of the mafia killing rae if vfp is eliminated and flips mafia today?

that doesn't seem right to me

I think we have a better chance of winning if we kill VFP today for a variety of percent reasons. I think regardless of what happens we should just kill VFP -> Nero -> Sigmund in that order anyway.

Tbh we basically know that either rae/vfp is scum but probably not both.
Nero Dwlee and Sigmund are left and possibly shiki.
If we lim right in Nero Sigmund and Dwlee then if Rae is real he gets another check.

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VOTE: nero
VFP survives the day and rae if town gets another check.

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VOTE: nero
VFP survives the day and rae if town gets another check.

if nero is mafia and rae is town mafia kill rae we kill vfp and then have to decide between sigmund and dwlee

Ah, true.
VOTE: vfp