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Never fear, for I am here!

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I've seen them killed twice in the last calendar week. Both town mislims. Idc if they come in claiming scum

Well then, who WOULD you kill, if not scummy people?

I know none of you.

our paths crossed in reservoir dogs

Please guide me, new best friend.

And now another friend appears before you! How awed you must be!

VOTE: humaneatingmonkey

Naked votes are scummy

don't be silly

i had clothes

don't be silly

i had clothes

fuck

Priceless exchange

I've seen them killed twice in the last calendar week. Both town mislims. Idc if they come in claiming scum

Another ongoing game
Also you might wantto take that quote out of your sig.

For a noavi with less than six month of experience, you sure seem uptight about the rules.

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Never fear, for I am here!

Scum entrance

lol
Wanna bet?

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sailor moon!

wut

roger that

VOTE: Anya

AtE Scum Flail Die

lolwut

faster kills is ++++town

And why is this?

by noted I mean I'm going to murder-rate you tommorrow dont nightkill me coward

VOTE: Anya

I think you might need a walker, since this was a rather spineless response.

my job is the hunt down bad guys

Okay cringe weeb person

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Sneep


Nah, I am 100% sure I will experience whiplash if Anya flips scum here.

no i mean i can't gather that you've read my posts. i also think anya doesn't flip scum here. why are you saying you're gonna need to feel whiplash

What do you think Anya would flip here?

That was pretty much a joke, with a hint of truth because god damn if we actually managed to pile onto one of the 3 scum almost at randomly

don't you think this would flip town if ur asking me this. do they just give out perspective slips that easy today. the year of our lord 2021

Why is that a perspective slip?

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wow i actually caught 2 wolf already easiest game of my life

You can’t actually believe this
You’re seriously shit at the game if so

But honestly everyone is a little high on their own fumes up to this point.

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i'll call u town if u think im town as well shiki.

I might just hold my thoughts until something of real value starts being posted

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VOTE: Anya
Someone wanted a lolhammer?

interesting execution

to be fair the e-2 already on the wagon fakehammer is a difficult one to pull off

I can't tell if Jake was fooled or pretending to be fooled but I'm leaning towards the latter and these posts are bad

If you're going to axe Anya, at least make sure they claim first >->

If you're going to axe Anya, at least make sure they claim first >->

She had 8 hours wdym

Do you think we are in RVS?

VOTE: Jake

Finally some good fucking content

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sigmund vented.

Idk why but Rae’s particularly flippant humor strikes me as towny rn

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did you not see him try to antagonize me by saying that i was scum for not hammering. i think it's like his thing or something.

if he's town he's basically giving a wolf an excuse to hammer me there and get away with it

bc it won't be as wolfy when he keeps gunning and asking for it and people are saying it would be funny

so i think it's more likely he's a wolf trying to get a quick and clean hammer off straight away and pass it off as "memes"

Do you really think scum would be that open?

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i think dwlee really thought they could catch someone out with a fake lolhammer. it's town spirit. does that answer u shiki

yes! it is the wanting results thing!

dwlee takes an action (in this case e-2 already on wagon fakehammer) > dwlee wants said action to have netted results > dwlee is likely town (or

knows

but eh)

I like this logic

Shiki/Rae/dwlee is my current townblock

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jake's group theory felt earnest to me in a city way even if i don't agree at all

Explain?
I didn’t see anything about it that struck as particularly town-motivated

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Off of a tone read?

I mean there’s a bit more than that atp but sure, say it like that

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jake's group theory felt earnest to me in a city way even if i don't agree at all

It felt meaningless to me.

Yeah same
It felt very arbitrary

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Do any of you want me to explain my Group Theory any further or nah?

i guess if you could explain why you think it is more likely that there is at least one scum in each instead of it being that those were the players active at the time as you are also concerned about activity windows

That is a

very good question

!

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VOTE: Sigmund I agree that this slot needs to sweat

I love saunas

There a reason you responded to this first?

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Sigmund is openwolfing. He doesn't even have reads.

But does that make him a wolf?

I do like the stuff you’re saying, though

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Would you agree that it is unlikely that no scum were online to participate?

Yes but the exercise of making 2 groups really did seem to me like fake scumhunting

Yeah that’s kinda my impression as well
When I’ve seen town do that sort of grouping before it was proactive
This is a retroactive creation of an arbitrary line which I see no solid justification for existing

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Would you agree that it is unlikely that no scum were online to participate?

Yes but the exercise of making 2 groups really did seem to me like fake scumhunting

As I stated earlier, my Group Hypothesis does not state who is or is not scum, all it states is that between the Anya voters, there is at least 1 scum and there is at most 2 scum.

But can you create an argument for it that doesn’t utilize statistics or some cockamamie mafia theory nonsense?

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yea you sound fake af rn

Why is this?
HEM’s thoughts all seem logical to me.

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Okay sigmund is town.

Could you elaborate on this?

It's the deliberate attention grabbing stuff scum usually want to avoid early game.

But it’s pretty useless stuff
Early solving or something I could see this working for, but not Sigmund’s chuunibyou act

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The Sigmund rabid hammer pushing is wild. It doesn't read fake which just makes them read trollish? Does anyone have experience with them and does it get better?

that's 3 times now i've asked you to read the post. yet you're stalling on your words. dope must have wax in his ears

Yikes

I have a sneaking suspicion that I know your entire rolecard.

Hey, hey. Don't ever soft that someone might be a PR. Paints a huge target on their back.

Also Jake reads mad fake

Are you an odd fellow at night?

Seriously what is gained from this? This is anti-town.

I like dwleelee

Anya funny

Not reading wagon theory. It's BS. Neat of shiki to be right tho

I don't think what Sigmund did was ai. My gut is telling me dwelee's tone is off.

I disagree, but neat to see you contributing

I wouldn't go so far as to be open-wolfing, but so far his actions are not great.

Do you scumread him?

I don't scumread him, but he isn't acting in a Townie way. I'll try to do a meta dive on him to see if this is just normal town behaviour.

Interested in this

his entire thought process is superficial and fake af

I agree so far

VOTE: Monkey

The first half of this post looks good, the rest feels off the mark
Why is HEM suspect for you?

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how is everyone in this game so fucking scummy

ydra only said 3 scum and I already want to murder half of you.

This is interesting. Why does everyone look scummy to you? I want reasoned and distinct explanations.

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Sigmund is moving the game forward and causing people to make positive statements.

Really?
I’d say Jake’s play has done more to progress the game than Sigmund’s, even though his group theory is absolute hogwash.

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contribution quota met. nobody agrees jake is scummy.

I cannot render such judgment until I see an answer to my question towards him
Poor logic thinking does not a scumfuck make.

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i keep thinking sigmund might be town bc i think the flailing around is an account gimmick and he's making enemies with everyone but trying to get a quick warhammer on page 3 or 4 is still really wolfy

Decent thought process

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progressing the game isnt alignment indicative lol what

I’m not debating that point
I’m saying from my point of view, Jake has actually done more despite my disdain for his contributions in practice
So by that token, Messy Anne should be townreading Jake as well

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VOTE: humaneatingmonkey
Absolutely terrible rebuttal.

I actually have to agree that HEM’s response to dwlee’s question was bad
It was a blatant attempt to turn the question around on the asker.

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lol

Spoiler: Yikes

That video is thoroughly unfunny.

Btw, after I flip, lynch in my wagon. There's at least 2 scum in here.

Pls hold

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I actually have to agree that HEM’s response to dwlee’s question was bad
It was a blatant attempt to turn the question around on the asker.

I don't remember doing this to Dwlee's question?

By delaying your response while trying to fish out an opinion of the one who asked, you attempted to give yourself safer ground to provide your response. It doesn’t matter whether it succeeded or failed, neither does you actually answering at a later point. The issue is that you made such a move at all.

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That video is thoroughly unfunny.

you don't like Borat?

Borat is okay, but that video is just cringeworthy
When was that video even created, because the more recent it is the worse it is IMO

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Would you agree that it is unlikely that no scum were online to participate?

Yes but the exercise of making 2 groups really did seem to me like fake scumhunting

Btw, after I flip, lynch in my wagon. There's at least 2 scum in here.

Idk if these mesh
Also pls don’t use the l-word, it’s bad enough I see it in your signature so much

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By delaying your response while trying to fish out an opinion of the one who asked, you attempted to give yourself safer ground to provide your response. It doesn’t matter whether it succeeded or failed, neither does you actually answering at a later point. The issue is that you made such a move at all.

...I delayed my response because I actually have to form those opinions first.

And why couldn’t you do so then?

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I was trying to stop you, because it wasn't getting us anywhere.

Trying to stop him from WHAT, might I ask?

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And why couldn’t you do so then?

I needed to sort the people in my wagon first.

Finish your re-read.

Why couldn't you have done that, rather than trying to pose the question to dwlee?

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also, it's not a "re-"read when it's my first time, and I like posting in real time while catching up, it makes it easier to finish up when I get to where I've already been.

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you are confused i think

perhaps
doesn't change the fact you did something I think has no reason to be done outside of a scum motive

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So you think I'm a townlean, but you voted for me and even now that you are aware that I'm L-1 you are risking my lynch. Why? Who are your scumreads and why aren't you voting for them instead?

lol is this dude actually L-1?

WHERE IS NOT MAFIA WHEN I NEED HIM

CHOOO CHOO LETS GO

this is the first thing that's given me a feel for sigmund's main, but it makes no sense to me why the person who this indicates would create another alt when they seemed fine with what they had

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In my wagon:

→ Sigmund, whose current activities include desperately pushing for a quickhammer before page 10 on a slot he doesn't have a read yet, throwing meaningless votes, and going for an OMGUS wagon for bogus reasons.
→ Johnny, who agrees that my thought process is "fake af", but hasn't really demonstrated why. (You really think my thought process is fake, in contrast to Sigmund here?)
→ Anne, who thinks Sigmund is "moving the game forward and causing people to make positive statements." (How??)
→ Jake, who thinks I was town because I pushed Sigmund but still puts his vote on my wagon anyway despite that it's Sigmund that started it. This guy even actively tries to stop people from discussing Sigmund, the loudest player on this game, for no apparent reason. (Why are you even doing that?)

Yeah. I'm SURE this is a town-motivated wagon. I have no idea why people think Sigmund is town for how he's playing here.

Which of the four are scum?

I can answer this later

What do you think about these four?

sorry mate but it was DEFINITELY dwlee the interaction was with

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honestly I could see HEM and Jake as scum partners

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this, coming from a guy who townleans me and scumreads the guy who started this wagon.

can we yeet this please.

I'm just sexier than you sorry

my abs are made of gold

look at my pecs twitch when i flex

okay Super Macho Man, we get it, you're rippped, now actually do something with that muscle

i'd rather kill wolves than monkeys though

there's way too many bad votes on him pretty much devoid of any thought bubbles or reasoning

this is a good post
Even though HEM may be suspect, those who've voted him need to better define their reasons why before we can lock into that elimination.

i'd rather kill wolves than monkeys though

there's way too many bad votes on him pretty much devoid of any thought bubbles or reasoning

thinking is the enemy of progress

nah, you are the enemy of progress
I've failed to see anything resembling forward motion from you this game.

VOTE: humaneatingmonkey
Absolutely terrible rebuttal.

maybe T4's decided to act super confident this game bc he thinks it'll make him look towny

this feels completely out of place though

talk about this? Specifically why that seems like feigned confidence, and why T3 thinks it would look towny.

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You're not the first one to say it, I don't understand why people think that.

For me, its that Jake seems invested in HEM's actions for rather questionable reasons. Like, he wanted HEM to stop doing something? That kinda vibes like scum who wanted to rein in their buddy.

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you responded like scum

which is?

Which is why I'm voting you. If you flip scum, then I'll have to redo most of my reads. If you flip town, I will be more certain about my reads.

I am still willing to hear you out about why you're town.

What reads are these, and why does HEM's flip affect them that way?

If you were voting someone to get a better read on them, and instead of giving you something to work with, they ignored and deflected your honest investigation for something stronger to base your reads off of, then would you think they are scummy?

Your "tell me why you're town" is bogus. First, there's no real reliable way to prove that. Second, I don't want to be locked into proving something I can't. That's not productive use of my time. What value would you have about why I think I'm town? Third, if you have a townlean on someone, you don't put them at E-1 with your scumread just to "get a better read at them". You already have a read on them — You townlean them. I don't see you doing that to Anya during the beginning or Sigmund or anyone whose slots are still unknown. You want my content, you can have them throughout the day — not in these flamboyant displays of "scumhunting".

Plus, if you really wanted my content, you could have answered my questions. We could have had a discussion on the game, instead of saying "I won't answer your questions because I'm not at E-1."

Bogus. I also noticed that you tried your best to give an actual answer on this, when you could have went right to this answer from the start. You were buying time because you didn't have an actual answer.

While I also think the vote on you from Jake has bad logical consistency, I also have to say you didn't really seem like you were in the mood to do much more than react to votes on you. While I can kinda see why you saw your posting as content, I also see how it feels like it isn't. Your contributions at this point feel like they mostly revolve around you responding to the accusations leveled against you. That isn't exactly scum-indicative but it does interest me when before that became the situation, I was quite impressed by your posting.

I also noticed that you tried your best to give an actual answer on this

EBWOP: I also noticed that you tried your best to

delay giving

an actual answer on this

this feels ironic

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Um..mafia have daytalk

I...don't see where that's specified in the ruleset?

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@Dwlee99, I can only vote for one.

I can buy T3 and Johnny's reasons for voting. I don't buy Rae's reason for voting. I have no idea what's going on inside Messy Anne's head. @Messy Anne, why did you vote me?

Why Johnny?

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Are you trying to characterize me as only having a read on both you and Sigmund, and dismissing the other real comments I made on other players?

As I see it, your reads up to this point are solely on those who've voted you

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To be honewt I was going make up some read so i could reread later but I honestly don't have any reads on skim yet - based on this page I would sort Dwlee as town though.

yeah dwlee is the most obvtown player up to this point, I'd say

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So then what makes you think monkey is town?

His posting and attempt to sort his own wagon.

I myself don't view his sorting of his wagon as anything stellar, by the fact that once he started doing it, it seemed to be the entirety of his sorting efforts. It seemed like a rather OMGUS-y way of playing, which while I won't call myself above that way of play, I don't just stick to my wagon, I analyze how EVERYONE interacts with my slot.

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Just got back from the laundromat.

Hey Naha! How are you? Could you read the entire game and get back to me with your thoughts?

I'll take "Useless Questions" for 1000, Alex.

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Ydrasse is an even bigger pagetop thief than Mena

yeah that was just unnecessary

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Rae and Johnny are below null. Not quite scummy but there were some posts that said "yeah this could be town actually".

what does this mean
from what you said, they sound like townleans rather than scumleans

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If you based your entire read of someone off of "Well they think like me, so they're +town", would you want to take the first reasonable chance to get more from them?

Interesting idea, perhaps I should have practiced this myself with HEM from the start

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I’ll work on that but perhaps you could walk me through your HEM read, for now?

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I'm murderizing sigmund immediately if he ever pulls this shit again

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er how? I'd envision that as a Blackquill line tbqh