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Post Post #7300 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:56 am

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Post Post #7301 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:56 am

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Did the mod say they were confirm town. Because otherwise they’re just extremely likely to be the protective but not 100% just 99%
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Post Post #7302 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:57 am

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i'm amazed Ircher continues to live. but good on him.
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Post Post #7303 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:57 am

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VOTE: Smart

No.
pedit: I've been hoping to die the last two night phases.
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Post Post #7304 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:57 am

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In post 7301, Bell wrote:Did the mod say they were confirm town. Because otherwise they’re just extremely likely to be the protective but not 100% just 99%
I remember them saying they targeted LLD N1 and they were confirmed to do that by whoever the watcher is. I don't think scum targets scum and I don't think a town watcher lies about that.
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Post Post #7305 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:57 am

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I can full claim my role too if you guys want.
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Post Post #7306 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:58 am

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In post 7303, Ircher wrote:VOTE: Smart

No.
pedit: I've been hoping to die the last two night phases.
then i'm sorry i couldn't and didn't finish you off.
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Post Post #7307 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:58 am

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You have a very good point Wheme.
Holy shit I forrgot chara was playing too.
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Post Post #7308 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:59 am

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yes Bell, i continue to live!

apparently there's a healer with a vested interest in keeping me alive... no, i don't get it either.
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Post Post #7309 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:00 pm

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Checking in

I attacked vfp last night

Bell who did you attack?
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Post Post #7310 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:01 pm

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Nobody. I can’t attack.
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Post Post #7311 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:02 pm

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Also, chara’s name is chara.
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Post Post #7312 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:02 pm

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it sure is.
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Post Post #7313 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:03 pm

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VOTE: ss
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Post Post #7314 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:03 pm

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fine with SS elim, but i'm hoping to see Sigmund come in and claim his actions.
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Post Post #7315 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:03 pm

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In post 7061, morph the cat wrote:
In post 6632, morph the cat wrote:Here's stuff.... Updated to reflect new data. All of these reads ARE still in order, the higher within each tier, the stronger the town read.

Touch Not a Single Hair On Their HeadsMorph the Cat (fferyllt/Cabd) - Mod Confirmed

Bingle - Mod Confirmed

notscience - You will literally never convince us out of this read; meta, tone, style, the way our crumbing dance went, the way Mara's claim went down around him nodding at it

Bell - For {Bell_Alignment} get {postcount}. If {postcount}>50/Day -->Town; else-->Scum

Sigmund - Day One Wagon Compositions. Bravado in throwing down with scum on this list. Claim fits ours like yin and yang.


Break This Glass In Case of Lack of Endgame After The Lower Tiers All DieDunnstral - If Dunn is scum this game, he has not just like, ridden the bus, or driven the bus, he has become the metaphysical concept of all buses that have ever existed at any point in the universe. He probably should be a tier higher but eh. Not his style. He'd also be working harder to get our attention.

Dwlee99 - I fully admit this read is based more upon the meta tells of his predecessor. Guillo has a few tonal markers we look for and expect, and he hit all of them with not just a pass, but a pass with flying colors. Dwlee has done nothing but improve our opinion of the slot since.

WhemeStar - his level of caginess given what he's shared about his role still doesn't make sense, but he's towned it up in other ways, especially over the last 24 hours. He's hit a lot of town notes, but he hasn't really taken stands on players. He's expressed paranoia about the usual "scary" players, basically. New data here has him rocketed up to mid-yellow tier.

Chara - Chara has been wavering in ours reads list a lot. That said, the TSQ slot scum-claiming rockets them all the way to up here. I would be incredibly shocked if Chara is scum with TSQ, and this game doesn't have traitors per the public alignment counts, so there ya go. There have been a LOT of points recently, mostly in day three, that ffery and I found ourselves cheering for a Chara post.

Ircher - Ircher is most likely a vig here. I don't really think that scum has chip damage, a factional kill, AND an extra kill. That said, Ircher's continued stubbornness while once endearing has started to grate hard, and it's unlikely but NOT impossible that scum did have some sort of gates extrakill.


POE Murder List WinnersFarkran - The big thing we like about Farkran is how he's interacted with us given our speculations about his role, etc. The question this game is not "Does the neighborhood have scum in it" but "does the neighborhood have town in it?" Farkan's alignment hangs in the balance. I am assuming that the troubadour in scum-SS confers buffs and potentially protection to the pairing, and that might be worthy of using on an ally for the WIFOM and the gains. It would also be useful for assuring a townread from a townie, though!

Lady Lambdadelta - ~takes cover~ It's just hard to see people above as less town than she's been, and it's also hard to fit their shapes into a team with our other scumreads. She just feels like the puzzle piece that snaps the whole picture together. LLD is one of those reads that short of mod clears, belongs in contention until the game is over only as an acknowledgement that she is WAY capable of busing every single one of the fools unlucky enough to draw red with her right to the very end. Last episode's LLD-Scum sighting had her publicly obtain a dayvig and shoot her partner in the face with it for cred. We do not read her on the basis of emotions, not after Tenet, and not before Tenet either.

catboi/Noraa - the stacking damage role info sounds more like a scum ability to me, especially as compared to mara's SP steal. We empathize strongly with the anger/irritation from catboi about the role not being made clear enough and that softened ffery's read while he was here. I also feel like scum learning they'd used those abilities suboptimally would be super-pissed and able to channel some of that salt into a "town" roleclaim. The way he went about it though, feels town to me. I'm extremely conflicted. Noraa's play has hardened the read back up, though, and we still think this flips scum.


Murder On the Merits of ScummyT3 - Playing to scum meta, basically. We had mild but growing concerns about Shea on day 1/2, and initially thought the replace-out could have been a town-replace, but T3's play has put that thought to rest. Cabd has been his mod AND played against scum-him recently.


Flea the Magician - severe lack of interaction/acknowledgement of most of the game happenings. day 1 wagon hijinks (by hijinks, we're talking about the way Flea's wagon changed and moved when the competing wagons became Anya and Sigmund. We don't like the mostly meaningless catchups (see first point) See also: Deathcurse Regigigas but then keeps being useless after meta.



Something_Smart - lack of thread health maintenance, didn't chime in re all the troubadour discussion with notsci and speculation about a troubadour neighborhood (in contrast to the neighbor), pushes on us have felt both tentative and opportunistic, like shopping our vulnerability to the rest of the players and being noiser about it when others were expressing concerns about us. neuter and spayhalf gutvibes. Something_Smart is this game's Dandelion Wine, and I'm going to let Dunn do here what he SHOULD have done to Cephrir and I.
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Post Post #7316 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:04 pm

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In post 7297, Bell wrote:
In post 7294, Dunnstral wrote:If you still think I can be mafia you aren't looking at the game very hard
I don’t need to because the game is over.
*slouch*
It’s not me and it’s not Notty.

S_S and farkran can’t both be scum.
Bingle is still alive etc.

Also, I was wrong on LLD, woops.
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Post Post #7317 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:05 pm

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SS is the correct flip here even if hes town.
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Post Post #7318 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:05 pm

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AFAIK if he flips town that means farkrans town and them from my pov its just chara
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Post Post #7319 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:06 pm

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It's probably just Smart and gg.

Fark and Bingle are clear. Sigmund is high prob town. mechanically. Bell is likely town by play.

That leaves myself, Wheme, Chara, and Dunnstral. Oh and notscience but eh.
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Post Post #7320 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:06 pm

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Well at this point we're down to 1 scum left and i'm more inclined to believe it's ircher or chara rather than ss

Anyways we have 2 conftown and 3 hard townreads to work with, i'm fine with anything
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Post Post #7321 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:07 pm

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In post 7318, WhemeStar wrote:AFAIK if he flips town that means farkrans town and them from my pov its just chara
I'm always town at this point regardless of ss alignment
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Post Post #7322 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:07 pm

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I've already incrementally claimed my whole role:

Roleblocked white fire night 2 and noraa night 3

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Post Post #7323 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:08 pm

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1) If I were scum, I wouldn't lolkill Dwlee here.
2) If I were scum, I would actually shoot Smart here. I wouldn't claim roleblocked because there'd be no point.
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Post Post #7324 (ISO) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:08 pm

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Ircher, chara, wheme, full claim.
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