Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[Chara]

Btw, unless someone lied, there's at least one scum in each of these lists.

Namely:
Dunnstral, Farkran, Dwlee99, Ircher, notscience is pool 1
Dunnstral, Farkran, Dwlee99, Chara, Ircher, catboi, notscience is pool 2

One of the moderator rules is that scum must use at least one damaging ability each night, and I don't think the factional kill counts as that.

also i feel like scum.... would probably lie. unless anyone's no-attack can be proven.

[Chara]

this is what does me with people trying to read emotion, they see consistency as being a sign of it being genuine, when often it's the opposite.
Strong emotions fluctuate because frankly if they stayed intense I'd never leave my bed.

fwiw, i completely understand this because i'm like that too. i don't think consistency (emotional or otherwise) is actually a towntell.

[Chara]

@chara i did read your post but i feel like you are pocketing me strongly here because scum want me in elo, and your red flip would also have a relevant consequence to my reads.

If Chara is scum i think this game is going to take a turn for town victory, but i am definitely not 100% sure that chara is scum. If we are not willing to take that risk today, i'm ok with Flea. Shea/T3 were tonally very town and as much as i can be wrong again, i'd rather look for someone else.

i'm sorry Fark, this is not your game. i keep reaching out to you because i like you and this game has been hard to find things to like in. that's all. :>

[Chara]

maybe if it happens a

third

time you'll all stop doing it...? no, probably not.

pedit: i care. i townread Dunn and not Ircher but hearing what others think of both is always useful.

[Chara]

kind of just want to claim the mech thing. i'm very opposed to claiming unnecessarily i know, but i've been thinking since yesterday perhaps it's better to just put it out there, i don't think it'll hurt anything.

[Chara]

Norra even though I have a feeling your slot is scum all game I still like that you replaced in. You’re enjoyable to play with

less-so the scum thing.

[Chara]

someone healed me on night 2. i don't think that person should claim, and while i appreciate the heal, their choice of target confuses me so very much.

[Chara]

Eh i mean, this will never be my game regardless of being correct or not, lol. All my reads have been wrong so far, literally all of them, not like some other games where i said something correct among the poop - anyways, it's either i keep trying or i give up and blind sheep. The latter could probably be better for my wincon but it's just not part of my character.

fair is fair. i do think scum me is directed/knows better how to pocket you, because town me has no idea how to get you off of me.

also i think Flea has been pretty town today. is this the usual vibe for faer scumgame?

[Chara]

Yeah okay.

As previously mentioned, I'm Troubadour. I have an innate one-shot loyal neighborize, which I used on Fark N1. So he's confirmed town (or he will be once I flip, anyway). I crumbed this (I can pull up the crumb if anyone cares, but it wasn't meant to be found, just for him to point to if I died). I picked him because he was both in everyone's nulls and someone I thought I could work well with (my other candidate was Chara, but I thought Chara was more likely to receive pressure from how they defended Anya).

I also have a one-shot 3 SP ability to make my neighbor's non-damaging actions unblockable for the next night. It is a buff as morph predicted, but not a very useful one.

I have 6 HP. I haven't taken any damage so far. If notsci actually did attack me, then I don't know why it failed.

nice to know my reads aren't total shit this game.

and thank you for not neighborizing me. i think i asked as much earlier when it came up, though.

[Chara]

For the record Bell, if you go back and read my supervillain posts they will make a lot more sense now I was chuckling because Dunn had just said that Farkran is not going to get easier to read.

mechanically that was a great shot, yeah.

[Chara]

hey, my Fark townread was based on application of both of those things.

[Chara]

Dwlee
Wheme
Dunnstral
LLD/Flea/Ircher
SS
Noraa
T3

morph's yellow to red reads sorted by elim preference for me right now. bottom is most preferred.

[Chara]

pre-emptive weekend V/LA.

[Chara]

Do you guys think this is within Flea's scum range?

i don't have a developed meta for Flea, but i do know fae has improved a lot in my readlist from faer play today. i'm less than thrilled about the wagon.

[Chara]

do you want me to hammer? i don't want this elim but there's no point in dragging it out.

[Chara]

VOTE: Flea

sorry Flea.

[Chara]

Chara defended Flea's meta and white fire's meta. So he's probably town.

Dunstrall clear imo.
yes, I'm going through the motions. I know.

hello, i'm here.

here to just listen to morph atp. sucks to suck. i've been talking myself out of correct reads all game.

[Chara]

i mean, i guess they haven't been the

worst

, but for 3/3 defending every flipped scum at the time that they were getting flipped is... actually yeah it is the worst.

[Chara]

i mean, i guess they haven't been the

worst

, but for 3/3 defending every flipped scum at the time that they were getting flipped is... actually yeah it is the worst.

i don't know how 3 for 3 became for 3/3 but it sure diddley did.

[Chara]

going by that pattern LLD slot is basically confscum now.

[Chara]

i was healed last night, again. while i appreciate it it's pretty much a waste.

[Chara]

i'm not sure i have anything else useful to contribute, should i just fullclaim or is it unnecessary.

[Chara]

If people agree to target you tonight then yes full claiming is probably good.

yeah, that's why i'm considering it. i mean, it's possible it won't matter but i don't think it's a good idea to just assume it won't.

[Chara]

i'm amazed Ircher continues to live. but good on him.

[Chara]

VOTE: Smart

No.
pedit: I've been hoping to die the last two night phases.

then i'm sorry i couldn't and didn't finish you off.

[Chara]

yes Bell, i continue to live!

apparently there's a healer with a vested interest in keeping me alive... no, i don't get it either.

[Chara]

it sure is.

[Chara]

fine with SS elim, but i'm hoping to see Sigmund come in and claim his actions.

[Chara]

okay, as i said before, i'm Imperial.

my regular attack does 1 damage. i have an innate that lets me regain 1 HP when i do damage to my target.

i have a 2 SP skill that does 1 extra bleeding damage to a target that's attacked.

and if i use my abilities consecutively (ie act 2 nights in a row), i overheat and have to rest.

finally i have a 3 sp ability that lets me regain double HP when i use that innate, and it makes me overheat immediately.

night 0: did not act
night 1: attacked ircher for 1 damage, healed 1. i was also healed for 2 HP by someone that night.
night 2: attached SS for 1 damage, did 1 extra bleeding damage, healed 1 damage, and was again healed for 2.
night 3 i had to idle.

i only took 1 damage this whole game but ended up healing so much, lmao.

[Chara]

wait, no, i think those are off by one. i also idled night 1, night 2 is when i started acting, night 4 is the idle, etc.

[Chara]

okay, as i said before, i'm Imperial.

my regular attack does 1 damage. i have an innate that lets me regain 1 HP when i do damage to my target.

i have a 2 SP skill that does 1 extra bleeding damage to a target that's attacked.

and if i use my abilities consecutively (ie act 2 nights in a row), i overheat and have to rest.

finally i have a 3 sp ability that lets me regain double HP when i use that innate, and it makes me overheat immediately.

night 0: did not act
night 1: did not act
night 2: attacked ircher for 1 damage, healed 1. i was also healed for 2 HP by someone that night.
night 3: attached SS for 1 damage, did 1 extra bleeding damage, healed 1 damage, and was again healed for 2.
night 4 i had to idle.

i only took 1 damage this whole game but ended up healing so much, lmao.

edited for ease of reference.

[Chara]

why am i less likely scum than Dunn for you, Ircher?

[Chara]

We should just lim and go though. There's really no point to dragging this out with a discussion.

If the game doesn't end, you can kill me at night and then kill Dunnstral. Follow up with Chara if that fails.

i still want to hear Sigmund's action claim.

[Chara]

like, maybe it doesn't matter, but... nobody else thinks it's weird i was healed twice? what happened there? i mean, i don't exactly think it's some kind of plot, it's just.... weird.

pedit: i guess i'm glad all the scum defending read town to you.

wait, shea

was

pocketing/white knighting me. if i'm also right about Dunn trying to white knight me i get a cookie.

i think it's just SS though. Wheme and Bell are my locktowns. Ircher i kind of want to night murder just for paranoia's sake but is most likely town.

Sigmund is a big ? that's very probably town but i wish was posting more.

[Chara]

my heart breaks, Fark. i still don't know why you scumread me. <3

but i'm thankful you are conftown.
come to think of it i doubt scum SS makes the mistake of making his elimination a foregone conclusion, unless he was banking on someone else endgaming.

but Fark's right, our odds are good. i'm nervous about treating Sigmund as conftown but i don't think i could sway the pack on this one, plus i'd still lim SS/Dunn/Ircher before Sigmund.

[Chara]

<3

i'm in no place to be mad about it. :>

pedit: i can kill Ircher, he would need some help killing me.

[Chara]

I think bell or myself should lead

I also think we should kill ss

I’ll be off in 3 hours

a

scathing

discredit of the two remaining conftown. cold-blooded.

i forgot notsci was still here in my post but yes he's town also.

[Chara]

I believe we treated sigmund as confirmed town due to claiming healer, but recently other people have claimed healing powers as well?

i have a tinfoil that Sigmund is actually scum and that is has something to do with the heals on me.

yes, i know that sounds ridiculous.

[Chara]

yes, i agree we shouldn't be blindly shooting at this point. i don't mind being executed overnight instead of eliminated if god forbid it comes to that, i don't have a lot of HP. but i will be healing if i'm not planned to die.

[Chara]

i think any arguments about what the last scum might be doing end with: they want this game to be over and are cursing their luck. though the scum who is not, i respect.

[Chara]

not to say i don't respect the former too.

[Chara]

Chara (Needs to be limmed, not chip damaged)

no i'm committed to being stabbed to death. i want my body strung up by several well-meaning swords.
is it because i claimed a heal? i only have 3 hp.

[Chara]

I do 1 damage and activate to heal myself for however many votes I have at the end of the next day phase

i hate how dear notty has an ability that feels so similar to mine in terms of utility.

i'm not going to read into setup stuff too much though.

but seriously, someone make Sigmund claim his actions at some point. i know he's said he has no time rn.

pedit: oh hey thanks Siggy
who the fuck was healing me then. was it actually scum doing it. i haven't even read the scumflips.

[Chara]

i'll do my best to murder Ircher tonight. Ircher please try and do the same to me. i refuse to be a miselim, take me down with your holy blade of light

[Chara]

VOTE: Something_Smart

[Chara]

sorry. i feel bad about the hammer. i'm not sure what i thought i was doing.

[Chara]

wait, it's 10 alive. it should be 6 to hammer, so it's not, right?

pedit: i mean, you're preaching to the choir here SS.

[Chara]

I believe it's just, Chara on Ircher, everyone stacking on Chara, right?

I would imagine that should end it.

This is plan. If Chara flips town and I'm dead, someone should look into whose flavor matches healing it, because none of the claims or flips account for that afaict.

yay, someone else finds it weird.

[Chara]

wait SS if it's over please tell me so i can sleep

[Chara]

haha i have escaped miselimination once more. that's all that matters. oh and it's cool we won ig

[Chara]

also sorry chara, at least we can set this as our first time as town together. Didn't go that well but we can learn.

i think i did a good job!

(with you, anyway. the rest of the game.... oh god. ahahaha. talk about getting pocketed.)

as for the moderation... this setup could have used a lot more review on readability. going over the role PMs for clarity multiple times is a big one, in order to ensure they were consistent with each other and understandable.

and while a co-mod is useful for keeping things going, i don't think a second co-mod would have helped with action resolution. at some point it's too confusing. a spreadsheet or a methodical mod PT would better serve that for making sure no actions are lost and every player in playerlist order is informed of changes overnight.

also, scum being able to do chip damage or a factional kill would explain why we never had unexplained damage on a slot. the whole faction being unable to attack normally while most of town could, is not just a design flaw in terms of severely de-powering the scumteam imo, but makes them collectively look really suspicious after action claims.

[Chara]

The extra heal was based upon the additional damage given to their target (that was not their own)

this was not reflected in my role PM lmao.

i also attempted to clarify this after the first healing, assuming it might have something to do with me, and was told Blood Edge can only heal 1 HP. i assume unwnd misunderstood what i meant.

[Chara]

it's not a big deal, i just want Dunn to know i'm not

that

blind and it was confusingly worded to me. and i think could have been corrected given how i kept checking how my role worked/expressing pure confusion at the heals in discord.

this game has enough embarrassing quotes from Chara already.

[Chara]

oh and, apologies to morph. i was completely in the wrong in that interaction re: LLD.

[Chara]

thank you Jingle. i appreciate the sentiment. but i was apologizing for what i had implied/said (i don't remember which) about morph's posting at the time, i feel i overstepped.

@ffery: yeah, i didn't think so. definitely some projection on my end.

[Chara]

i think this is a pretty important discussion to have regarding modkilling and what constitutes paraphrasing vs. quoting, and not some kind of personal attack.