Not Quite Normal Multiball (Game Over)

[Taco Hemingway]

Hello all, some of you may know who I am, here's a crumb of my role that requires knowledge of polish culture, specifically polish rap music, so there will be no sussing out what my soft is

[Taco Hemingway]

the taco had sour cream in it

you can't just leave that out for weeks and expect it to be good to eat

u rang?

[Taco Hemingway]

VOTE: Celestial Powerhouse
"jestem ateista ale niech mi dobry pan pomoze"

[Taco Hemingway]

the taco had sour cream in it

you can't just leave that out for weeks and expect it to be good to eat

u rang?

can you use chipotle southwest next time

Funny, I used to work at chipotle.

[Taco Hemingway]

wait what the fuck we're on page 14

i was about to roast dann for having a readslist this early but we aint early.. im just late LMAO

[Taco Hemingway]

some answers to any questions I may receive:

Will I be reading what happened on pages 1-13? - Probably not.

Will I do so if you ask me? - Probably not.

Hope that makes stuff clear.

[Taco Hemingway]

I already have 1 scumread on this page.

This is epic.

[Taco Hemingway]

Spoiler:

This is what people are referring to as the slip, Titus

That post makes no sense as a slip because T3 could never get away with that as a serious claim because I would out it as a meme almost immediately. :/

~Titus

I feel like that makes sense as to why you immediately dismissed his informed miller claim,

But you were also completely unfazed by the "mafia PT" post, by the self vote, and by the Loyal Babysitter claim?

Your posts always make me want to like, ruffle your hair while telling you how proud I am of you.

This is what people are referring to as the slip, Titus

That post makes no sense as a slip because T3 could never get away with that as a serious claim because I would out it as a meme almost immediately. :/

~Titus

I feel like that makes sense as to why you immediately dismissed his informed miller claim,

But you were also completely unfazed by the "mafia PT" post, by the self vote, and by the Loyal Babysitter claim?

And with this post Luke joins Peta. <3

I am a bit suspicious of these posts coming from Morph, in a "they might be trying to pocket me" kind of vibe

It feels a bit like how Cabd greeted me in this game where he was scum --

I also don't really know what part of my post puts me in a town read, as opposed to like maybe "not scum with Titus" given that this game is multiball

I don't believe you think you're trying to be pocketed

[Taco Hemingway]

let's kill celestial powerhouse for hiding under anonymity

I think the Kakegurui is Taly/MariaR? Nancy Drew 39 is part of the Celestial Hydra because anymonstroushydra she's usually in.

so whose ban dodge alt are you

They're a legit person from EM who has played semi-regularly in the chat games in the past lol.

[Taco Hemingway]

anya locktown

[Taco Hemingway]

btw this is actually a bastard game and all the town are in a group masonry and we already know the solve, we're just all collectively here to fuck with scum

[Taco Hemingway]

Hello all, some of you may know who I am, here's a crumb of my role that requires knowledge of polish culture, specifically polish rap music, so there will be no sussing out what my soft is

I'm just thinking back to this post and I can only imagine certain players tryharding so hard to figure out exactly what I'm softing, only for me to claim VT later >:)

[Taco Hemingway]

vecna is also town

VOTE: Manatee

[Taco Hemingway]

haha peta rolled scum

[Taco Hemingway]

@pooky u are also a reliable peta reader, do u agree with me here?

[Taco Hemingway]

how do i get negative attention enough that people want to wagon me

[Taco Hemingway]

oh wait wrong chat guys!!

[Taco Hemingway]

how do i get negative attention enough that people want to wagon me

play more like you usually do

the issue is I always get consensus townread in multiball LMAO

[Taco Hemingway]

VOTE: petapan

[Taco Hemingway]

also anya is still town

[Taco Hemingway]

I townread ydrasse alt and sr unwnd

[Taco Hemingway]

I also townread anya as well as ydrasse alt

[Taco Hemingway]

Townreads

{petapan, Kakeguri Addicts, Lukewarm, Uncle Shelby}
{Kazyan, Vecna, Anya}
{WhemeStar, Celestial Powerhouse, Ythan}

My name is missing here

[Taco Hemingway]

Townreads

{petapan, Kakeguri Addicts, Lukewarm, Uncle Shelby}
{Kazyan, Vecna, Anya}
{WhemeStar, Celestial Powerhouse, Ythan}

My name is missing here

[Taco Hemingway]

If you think t3 won't say something as scum; you're probably very incorrect

[Taco Hemingway]

His scum play is marked by high risk plays

[Taco Hemingway]

how is it performative and why is that scummy?asking for a friend

[Taco Hemingway]

Dann if youre trying to live through this day phase maybe treat the people who are willing to ignore your wagon with some better faith eh?
My posts are not "bad", nor does post quality determine my alignment.
You're reeking desperation here and the only reason im not turbo pushing you bc i dont find 1 person focus tunnels useful

Also didnt really read any of the other reads bc dont care

[Taco Hemingway]

ill see u in dead chat sod2 then

[Taco Hemingway]

My pool of slots I am wary of are: Morph, Unwnd, Titus, Ydra, Dann

Im really concerned with the fact that Lukewarm's scum pool is all power players actually.

I think this means that lukewarm is either getting paranoid as town
or he is scum who is afraid of the influence they might have.

I see the latter more likely because he's a good player and I respect his game. I feel like he wouldn't let paranoia get the best of him here.

another thing is that I'm not a fan of one other person. this was something I was thinking for quite a while but I just forgot what their name was. I'll be back but need to put this here so I dont procrastinate and end up forgetting completely.

-Mister Ocean

too bad he doesn't know my identity else it would also include me >:)

[Taco Hemingway]

You're secretly three tiny men in a trenchcoat we get it you're not that special

3 celestial gods are pretty special tbh dunno how you figured this

[Taco Hemingway]

Oh wait celestial has Nancy? Has she posted much this game? which head is she?

the one thats spoken the most

[Taco Hemingway]

I should probably clarify that that is not an actual id claim. That was a joke claim but if you want to believe it, go ahead lol.

-Mister Ocean

i know nancy doesnt sign posts so yeah

[Taco Hemingway]

wheme is town

[Taco Hemingway]

VOTE: Lukewarm

[Taco Hemingway]

[Taco Hemingway]

the alisae inside my head just said ircher is lockscum

[Taco Hemingway]

Every time Ircher plays in a hydra he rolls scum. Someone break it to him.

the one time he didnt, he was 3p

[Taco Hemingway]

unwnd why am I scum?

[Taco Hemingway]

And follow up question: how accurate has this reading method been against the player "DkKoba"?

[Taco Hemingway]

hi im here lmao

[Taco Hemingway]

mafia stonks going way down

[Taco Hemingway]

i opened the thread pissed that it was hammered so fast but then read the night flip and was slightly less mad

[Taco Hemingway]

we are not rushing the rest of this day phase

[Taco Hemingway]

vfp or taco are both fine

im never getting limmed this game but nice try

[Taco Hemingway]

Does anyone know how many mafia members are on each team on average in these game’s?

usually wincons being unachievable get announced in multiball in my experience so if anything there's 1 more scum left, 3/3/rest town or 3/2/rest town is likely the split

[Taco Hemingway]

lots of fake bravado

I could have buried your slot d1, sit down.

[Taco Hemingway]

I'd like to find the last mafia member for reasons rather than look for wolf.

someone please catch me up on general discussio nbecause i barely read anything after yday was hammered

[Taco Hemingway]

Taco has all the desperate features of doomed scumboi

dont worry tho my cat gave us a kill list and you're not in the top 2

its ok because like I said, I'm never getting daykilled this game.

[Taco Hemingway]

I'd like to find the last mafia member for reasons rather than look for wolf.

someone please catch me up on general discussio nbecause i barely read anything after yday was hammered

have you tried looking in the mirror ?

lmao fuck off

[Taco Hemingway]

I'm an anti-ww PR and im gonna target you tonight pooky

[Taco Hemingway]

pooky is like prob wolf and i wanna see them nightkill me

[Taco Hemingway]

VOTE: unwnd

[Taco Hemingway]

stop fucking rushing to end day so early

[Taco Hemingway]

I know town unwnd, they are too restrained wrt their town meta. that's my best vibe read for last mafia member here.

[Taco Hemingway]

unvote

[Taco Hemingway]

or rather keep it at e-2 we aren't rushing elims

[Taco Hemingway]

I know town unwnd, they are too restrained wrt their town meta. that's my best vibe read for last mafia member here.

hot take for someone who hasn't read since two days before manatee got hammered

I did read the game, I just didn't read in detail.

Why is unwnd town?

[Taco Hemingway]

speed elims are cringe and are how town gets lost and mislims 5 times in a row after finding most scum early.

[Taco Hemingway]

dann should understand that the most considering their slot would be dead d1 with a speedlim

[Taco Hemingway]

A speed elim just flipped a mafia member, Taco

What reality do you live in?

A reality where we have discussion time to use, why am I scum?

[Taco Hemingway]

Why is unwnd town?

- his reads
- his general attitude towards the game being too easy
- his interactions with morph d1
- idk his posts
- the fact that unwnd is too good a player to be easily vibe meta read by someone who has barely been present this game

pick one

How about pick one:

be more fucking specific

[Taco Hemingway]

your read is neither complex nor groundbreaking.

[Taco Hemingway]

why am I scum?

cuz if you were town you would be laughing like a madman and joining us on this joyride of death and destruction

instead you're like



basically a scumbag who just logged in and found their whole team dead without even getting to talk lolol

that doesn't add up with a holistic view of the game at all.

[Taco Hemingway]

I'm an anti-ww PR and im gonna target you tonight pooky

Well I'll be seeing you in the morning... as you join the Styx...

- Hades, Lord of laughing at would be Heroes.

Wtf is this supposed to mean?

[Taco Hemingway]

what pisses me off is some of yall are just openwolfing with your scumreads on me and some of you are just being shitty surface level readers and i can' tell the difference because none of you will fucking ellaborate on your read

[Taco Hemingway]

this is annoying.

someone fucking interact with me in good faith

[Taco Hemingway]

im going to full claim if people dont knock this shit off.

and yall will regret that bc i am a particularly useful anti ww role with majority ww left.

[Taco Hemingway]

if you scumread me, fucking case me - don't just play around like you think you're slick with a non-holistic look at my slot.

[Taco Hemingway]

yeah what I noticed is that they are very much suppressed in tone whereas as town they have a much stronger flame. notably in how carefully they are navigating their reads and not particularly showing much aggression in contrast with town unwnd.

[Taco Hemingway]

why am i scum celestial?

[Taco Hemingway]

im going to full claim if people dont knock this shit off.

Go ahead

VOTE: Kakeguri

[Taco Hemingway]

whatever i'm tilted because i can't form my own reads properly in a gamestate like this

[Taco Hemingway]

yeah what I noticed is that they are very much suppressed in tone whereas as town they have a much stronger flame. notably in how carefully they are navigating their reads and not particularly showing much aggression in contrast with town unwnd.

sure, but there is context to the subduedness unwnd is showing this game

unwnd was also much more flamey D1 but you weren't really around for that, or the times you were i don't think you really commented on unwnd?

i realized moreso recently that their pushes have been on both scum teams which is a much better look for them in a holistic sense that they shouldn't be considered here unless they live way too long.

I also think you are town here likely for similar reasons

[Taco Hemingway]

I am not upset at the scum flips stop making shit up

[Taco Hemingway]

I came in and saw people speed voting, I hate rushing as town.

Its fucking simple.

[Taco Hemingway]

you're being incredibly uncharitable towards me celestial, why is that?

[Taco Hemingway]

if vig shoots me they are making the worst vig play of all time, bar the one time i saw a vig shoot an uncc cop

[Taco Hemingway]

whatever i'm tilted because i can't form my own reads properly in a gamestate like this

You had all night...
And, like, it was an extended night because of the replacements

some answers to any questions I may receive:

Will I be reading what happened on pages 1-13? - Probably not.

Will I do so if you ask me? - Probably not.

Hope that makes stuff clear.

also why do you think I'm scum?

[Taco Hemingway]

wheme where are you rushing to? need the safety of a nightkill?

[Taco Hemingway]

also even if DGB slot was confirmed scum here I would not want to rush the day because believe it or not I signed up to play a game where I am interacting with it, and mindlessly just voting out players is not interactive and does not do well for overall solves, hope that helps!

[Taco Hemingway]

@celestial stop playing around my question. why am I scum? and why are you displaying an incredible amount of uncharitableness to the point where any response I make you are framing as scummy?

[Taco Hemingway]

I'm not answering shit from you until you answer me first, celestial, you trying to now fish for reasons to say you scumread me now?

[Taco Hemingway]

have you considered that I really dont care which head and actually all of them is the default?

[Taco Hemingway]

whatever i'm tilted because i can't form my own reads properly in a gamestate like this

You had all night...
And, like, it was an extended night because of the replacements

some answers to any questions I may receive:

Will I be reading what happened on pages 1-13? - Probably not.

Will I do so if you ask me? - Probably not.

Hope that makes stuff clear.

also why do you think I'm scum?

If you are not reading the game, then why should I feel bad when you say you are not getting a chance to form reads? smh

VOTE: Lukewarm

[Taco Hemingway]

all this talk about me not reading the game when people aren't reading my slot at all, makes you really think.

[Taco Hemingway]

wheme where are you rushing to? need the safety of a nightkill?

No I think it’s funny to quickly elim scum

go do that in marathon games, cut that shit out in games with deadlines we can actually use.

[Taco Hemingway]

maybe the taco is the malefactor

would explain why they seem to want to eat an elim so badly lol

vote me

[Taco Hemingway]

if you fos me, vote me.

now.

[Taco Hemingway]

put your money where your mouth is, cmon!

[Taco Hemingway]

maybe the taco is the malefactor

would explain why they seem to want to eat an elim so badly lol

vote me

d e s p e r a t e

stop interacting with me please.

at least for tonight.

I really dont wanna eat a ban, ok?

[Taco Hemingway]

what the fuck is malefactor

[Taco Hemingway]

wheme where are you rushing to? need the safety of a nightkill?

No I think it’s funny to quickly elim scum

go do that in marathon games, cut that shit out in games with deadlines we can actually use.

You have time now to talk about whatever you want to talk about instead of grandstanding.

I'm actually having some trouble beacuse people won't answer my questions with any detail

[Taco Hemingway]

whatever i'm tilted because i can't form my own reads properly in a gamestate like this

You had all night...
And, like, it was an extended night because of the replacements

some answers to any questions I may receive:

Will I be reading what happened on pages 1-13? - Probably not.

Will I do so if you ask me? - Probably not.

Hope that makes stuff clear.

also why do you think I'm scum?

If you are not reading the game, then why should I feel bad when you say you are not getting a chance to form reads? smh

VOTE: Lukewarm

Also, like, I did give you a reason why you are in my scum reads, like 2 pages ago. You just skipped past it

dont care

requote it and if applicable explain why that didn't change recently.

[Taco Hemingway]

noraa isnt even in this game

[Taco Hemingway]

why does me voting somewhere of my own volition to attempt to start a wagon there make me scum? @LukeWarm

sounds like an extremely weak reason to scumread someone

[Taco Hemingway]

look if you want to talk reads or whatever just do it

but don't expect people to feed you content in real time because there's fucking 125 pages of game content already that you chose to skip out on

like... asking me about an unwnd town read that I have elaborated on several times through D1 is exhausting, just click my iso or something

i make my reads best when I interact in real time/at least if I'm staying on top of the game, something I've been unable to really do.

I get its exhausting but sometimes things change and sometimes someone can be like "hm ok that acutally doesnt make sense anymore now" etc.

i get it isnt the most useful for everyone but its what works for me personally to get a good grasp of the gamestate

[Taco Hemingway]

I'm not answering shit from you until you answer me first, celestial, you trying to now fish for reasons to say you scumread me now?

We are a (supposedly anon) hydra.
We are 3 players on 1 account.

We are Zeus, Poseidon, and the best of the 3, Hades.

-Hades.

you are being obtuse on purpose.

not bothering with you anymore.

vote me or screw off with your shade.

[Taco Hemingway]

wheme where are you rushing to? need the safety of a nightkill?

No I think it’s funny to quickly elim scum

go do that in marathon games, cut that shit out in games with deadlines we can actually use.

You have time now to talk about whatever you want to talk about instead of grandstanding.

stop misrepping me and actually read what I'm saying bud.

You've been just slinging shit this whole time.

[Taco Hemingway]

one of yous being annoying towards me is 100% scum and the people who refuse to give complexity to their read on me are defaulted to my PoE unless there are other reasons to holistically townread you

[Taco Hemingway]

you're being incredibly uncharitable towards me celestial, why is that?

^^^^

[Taco Hemingway]

Just going back on forth with Taco the way it is happening now is not helping anyone

Gonna just stop engaging with Taco unless they want to actually start like making a case against someone (maybe me since that is who he is voting atm)

your reasoning for fosing me is a complete joke and farce for one

[Taco Hemingway]

lets take a look at the scenario:

if im mafia:
I claimed an anti-WW pr. I basically committed suicide. There is no doubt WW would want to target me here regardless of if they think I'm mafia or town. Unless you think more BP mafia exist.

if im wolf:
I pushed manatee extremely early and then instead of shoving through dann/t3 slot I vanity vote and refuse the cred of bussing completely because I had an early vote

if im malefactor:
bro i deadass didnt know what it was until like 15 minutes ago when it was pointed out - dont care if you dont believe me but i deffo slipped im not


that should make it easy to occam's razor me out of being scumread by anyone who isn't being uncharitable.

[Taco Hemingway]

When I mean charitable, I mean being fair/holistic in how you are reading me. In terms of how you are interpreting my words/actions vs how you might treat someone else doing the same.

[Taco Hemingway]

Just going back on forth with Taco the way it is happening now is not helping anyone

Gonna just stop engaging with Taco unless they want to actually start like making a case against someone (maybe me since that is who he is voting atm)

your reasoning for fosing me is a complete joke and farce for one

Says the person who has voted me both Day 1 and Day 2 without giving any reason

ur one of those that just gets caught on vibes

[Taco Hemingway]

i think arguments, even if TvT, are extremely useful when evaluating how people around the argument are reacting to it.

[Taco Hemingway]

I'm currently searching for who is town within the people scumreading me and then dissecting the action around their pushes on me and see what I can find there. I know I am myself town, ergo solving from a step where I know a person's read is incorrect is a good starting point for me.

[Taco Hemingway]

someone unvote we aren't hammering this early

especially without DGB being able to say anything

[Taco Hemingway]

lets take a look at the scenario:

if im mafia:
I claimed an anti-WW pr. I basically committed suicide. There is no doubt WW would want to target me here regardless of if they think I'm mafia or town. Unless you think more BP mafia exist.

if im wolf:
I pushed manatee extremely early and then instead of shoving through dann/t3 slot I vanity vote and refuse the cred of bussing completely because I had an early vote

if im malefactor:
bro i deadass didnt know what it was until like 15 minutes ago when it was pointed out - dont care if you dont believe me but i deffo slipped im not


that should make it easy to occam's razor me out of being scumread by anyone who isn't being uncharitable.

no. no one will be night killing you regardless of your alignment because literally everyone knows you'll just die tomorrow during the day phase.

-Mister Ocean

Why would that happen?

[Taco Hemingway]

So you are accusing me of being the last mafia?

Why am I scum again btw?

You never answered that.

[Taco Hemingway]

i would like to request we don't speedgame the day so people have a chance to process things and we can talk. even if we're on the right track, rushing just leads to an information deficit which is harmful in the long term if one or two of the scum are harder to find

some ppl really don't understand this lmao


especially feel this bc of all the confidence being thrown around at my slot being scum despite evidence pointing away from that

[Taco Hemingway]

lets take a look at the scenario:

if im mafia:
I claimed an anti-WW pr. I basically committed suicide. There is no doubt WW would want to target me here regardless of if they think I'm mafia or town. Unless you think more BP mafia exist.

if im wolf:
I pushed manatee extremely early and then instead of shoving through dann/t3 slot I vanity vote and refuse the cred of bussing completely because I had an early vote

if im malefactor:
bro i deadass didnt know what it was until like 15 minutes ago when it was pointed out - dont care if you dont believe me but i deffo slipped im not


that should make it easy to occam's razor me out of being scumread by anyone who isn't being uncharitable.

no. no one will be night killing you regardless of your alignment because literally everyone knows you'll just die tomorrow during the day phase.

-Mister Ocean

Why would that happen?

You have painted yourself an obvious nightkill, and given your claim you cannot be allowed to live beyond tomorrow because WIFOM.
You've also caused enough Ruckus even Charon doesn't wait to be paid to take you across the Styx - hes willing to take you for free because us-damn it you need to take a break.

-Hades.

your logic has such blatant holes in it.

Tell me: If you are WW, and you saw me claim an anti-ww PR, what would you do?

[Taco Hemingway]

like your reasoning updates itself based on what new thing I'm saying - there is no holistic reasoning at all from you. It's all about some minute detail about my play combined with a shitty assumption about what happens.

I don't think your thought process is complex at all, Hades and it shows.

[Taco Hemingway]

Howling? I thought you believed I'm last mafia?

[Taco Hemingway]

oh yeah btw imma soft that i know why setup design wise morph was a roleblocker - i'll say that much more about my role.

[Taco Hemingway]

like your reasoning updates itself based on what new thing I'm saying - there is no holistic reasoning at all from you. It's all about some minute detail about my play combined with a shitty assumption about what happens.

I don't think your thought process is complex at all, Hades and it shows.

My reasoning is consistent, taco poop.

As is Poseidons reasoning.

You are reading as one player, when we're seperate heads.

-Hades.

hades go sleep. ignore the howling!

-Mister Ocean

Have you heard a 3 headed dog howl? yeesh...

I read your slot as a unit. You share the same role PM.

I don't care about individual reads. I care about how you as a unit are reading the game and such. You keep bringing up that you are a hydra as a copout to dodge culpability for what your slot says and its NAGL.

[Taco Hemingway]

oh yeah btw imma soft that i know why setup design wise morph was a roleblocker - i'll say that much more about my role.

maybe this was too much but I already softed too much when interacting with pooky so whatever lmao

[Taco Hemingway]

WHY IS IT FUCKJING BULLSHIT

fuckign EXPLAIN YOUR SHIT

im getting tired and i'm gonna fucking thunderdome you in a second if you dont knock it off

[Taco Hemingway]

Anyways, I think we should try to kill the werewolves. Feel free to bus me early because I'll bus you all. The miller claim is an inside joke but I can always say it's serious later. I might rolecop unwnd because of the soft?

I don't think T3 slipped here, I think that this was a poorly thought out form of humor. With that being said, I don't think this is towny, nor should we allow people to claim malefactor.

VOTE: T3

Everyone above me is town!

i hardclaim malefactor actually

This is also a particularly poor post. One that we would be pressuring more if it weren't for T3 being a bigger target.

So, like, at least in the Newbie queue, it's harder to slip because the scum PT is in an obvious soft purple color instead of the main thread's black background. Is it the same for grown-up Mafia, or is that just how PTs work?

I'm getting a bad feeling from this post. It seems to be trying to be self-clearing and this doesn't fit the personality that they showed with their first few posts. I'd go as far to say that this post is more likely to come from non-town than from actual town.

Kazyan what's your mafia experience like?

Mostly amogus, followed by:

Game 1: Roll 3-shot Vigilante. Misuse the power the whole game; lose.
Game 2: VT. Get killed on night 1 after defending scum; rest of the town is badass and nails the two scum back-to-back.
Game 3: Mafia Goon. Get super lucky by shooting the only PR on day 1 and then having another townie fakeclaim on Day 2. Win.
Game 4: VT in Dogs. Vs Cats multiball. Drop out partway through the game after hammering a Miller. Generally fail to and get widely scumread, except for side-eyeing Pooky (who was scum) the whole time, which goes nowhere.
Game 5: You're looking at it.

You've been in a dead pt before. You should know what color private pts are. Also doesn't make sense that you'd think they would be a different color outside of the newbie queue.

Reads so far:

[Morph the Cat]
[Null]
[petapan]
[Kazyan, T3]

VOTE: echolocation

Obvious CW commence

I don't agree with where you placed your vote in that I think there are players who are better votes if you are set against t3. What are you thinking here, why pick echolocation, who seems pretty null on my read-through?

I'm a Loyal Babysitter. You all really had to make me do this.

Claim noted. I'd prefer to power through and eliminate them regardless.

I'm a Loyal Babysitter. You all really had to make me do this.

So, fun fact, Cephrir advertised this to his friends as "not having any bullshit weird new normal queue roles or modifiers" during a discussion being had about how much normal games suck like, ALL the balls lately.

Guess what this fakeclaim contains two of~

this seems pretty angleshooty especially if the game wasn't publicly advertised as such. I think we should take T3's claim as seriously as any other claim given the circumstances.

It WAS advertised as such though. Note Ceph's join date and take this line from the opening of the signup thread:

This game is normalesque in feel and flavor, but can't run in the normal queue for a few reasons which, I think, are all delineated in this post. Roles have some light flavor, but I don't plan on writing a novel during the game.

Now HERE is the kind of game that Ceph yearns for, the normals HE grew up in:

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=29163

I don't agree with any of this - I don't think Ceph would slip info elsewhere, and not sure that should be brought up if he did.
I agree with eliminating T3, though, and think the claim is lame anyway, I just wouldn't bring setup speculation + mod meta into the equation.

I don't like that T3 is slipping you as not his partner, Cabd

It's a multiball game, I find it unlikely that Morph and T3 are aligned. and bussing, if that's what you are implying. There should be another team of baddies to work with without this weird angle.

What’s a werewolf version of Miller? Furry?

So Uh I learned a lesson from the last game I just played.

I am Werewolf Miller.

I'm not sure what the fascination with literally claiming scum is, but it remains strictly anti-town beyond being jokey in this game.

Spoiler: Gif reaction

VOTE: Lukewarm

Coward.

(Also this is my RVS vote)

What am I supposedly scared of right now?

Taking away the E-1

I don't care for this post. As an aside, Peta is shifting back to null and you're shifting more towards scum in my mind.

I don't see why a partner would even bother trying for damage control here, especially when the only other info T3 spewed was not partner-related. But both Resistance heads getting a town read off of that is... something. One of them even claimed they're not even seeing any slip.

Yes, I agree, which makes reading this game a bit more difficult. That's fine, though, I wouldn't want this game to be too easy this time.
This is the only post besides a morph post that I've felt was above null, so you get an early townread. Multiball complicates both of those reads, but it's a start for me.

[Morph the Cat, Uncly Shelby]
[Null, Petapan]
[kdowns]
[Kazyan]
[Dannflor]

man i go 2 posts in on this ISO and I already cracked who the final mafia member is lmfao
VOTE: Kakeguri

bye!

[Taco Hemingway]

WHY IS IT FUCKJING BULLSHIT

fuckign EXPLAIN YOUR SHIT

im getting tired and i'm gonna fucking thunderdome you in a second if you dont knock it off

zeus is our brother~

but also can I just soft that I also know why morph is role blocker. what does that mean honestly. I dont think there's a way to know unless you are informed and even then, that doesn't confirm your alignment. no one role can *confirm* that another exists.

Hades, hades, look into my starry blue eyes. I love youuu <3 take a hug and sleep please! *huuuuug*

-Mister Ocean

it will all make sense if wolves decide to leave me alive.

[Taco Hemingway]

actually it will make sense if i die too but then it wont be as funny because I can't meme on people

[Taco Hemingway]

ok random but i think i just unlocked the secret to reading ydrasse properly now after rereading d1 stuff

[Taco Hemingway]

can people read Kakeguri Addicts ISO and tell me if they see what I see wrt their interactions with flipped slots/now different consensus slots looking bad, because I really am confident there is scum there.



also I want to reexamine Anya here.


I still think vecna town here, DGB i have never seen as scum and I can prob make a better read on them once they actually post.

[Taco Hemingway]

Its a bit concerning that the majority of wheme's content has been to push people to rush the day,

[Taco Hemingway]

VOTE: Echolocation

Gut VC looking at. Ircher isn't opposed.

Kazyan and morph are FoSes.

~Titus

VOTE: Petapan

Look, I'm voting your top townread! Get me!

Petapan is scum and your reads are bad and you are scum I know you are unwnd!!

Ooh look at me pushing you whatever could I be up to...!

Oddly performative. Gut pings.

Resistance is 100% not Mafia aligned here

[Taco Hemingway]

I’m showing mercy to scum

I played with town!you in a superb idea game and successfully found you as town when you were consensus scumread and saved you. I don't get that same vibe from you in this game like you had in that game. You were much more relaxed there in terms of how you acted and now I see anxiety from your slot in wanting to push things along.

[Taco Hemingway]

What's the solve then, Wheme?

[Taco Hemingway]

VOTE: anya
after some thought I'm gonna dump vote here. goodnight.

[Taco Hemingway]

if we're on the right track to win, cool. but like please please please to anyone who is alive in late game if we start getting lost because we bumrushed the elims and didnt bother getting associative info at all/stress scum to make content around their partner wagons(seriously lmao) - make sure you reeval slots that were loud about the flipped scum and look at their motivations thanks.

i know yall will forget this /not read this now but hopefully it plants that seed later on ya know lmao



I also think within the people who rushed spiffeh slot there is 100% at least 1 WW

[Taco Hemingway]

there's a few within that category that gets crosscleared from other stuff - but I'll leave that thought as is there for now and explain later

[Taco Hemingway]

also reminder to scum: if im not explicitly townreading you, you better watch out because it means im potentially on your tail >:)

[Taco Hemingway]

I don’t get why your getting the idea that If we miss elim we’re going to continue to speed elim

When the fact is there’s probably 2-3 confirmed scum we can elim

i think its actually even worse for town to lim scum here quickly.

you lose out on associatives.

having 2 solo scum with very minimal associatives will be terrible for the gamestate unless we get lucky and scum crossshoot, but it seems that evidence points towards most scum having a BP vest

[Taco Hemingway]

I actually think Taco can go now. I wasn't sure at first but then I saw their AtE.
~Ircher

if you scumread me, fucking case me - don't just play around like you think you're slick with a non-holistic look at my slot.

This is odd coming from someone who fakes guilties.

when you go from accusing my AtE of being scum indicative to switching up to personal insult of my towngame.

you know I'm town don't you?

What about my "ate" is scummy?

[Taco Hemingway]

If werewolves' factional kill counts for the bulletproof, that means that was a strongman. If werewolves' factional kill doesn't count for the bulletproof, then that has entirely different implications.)

Redacted.

This is a silly question with an obvious answer.

This clearly isn't a normal game, and making wrong presumptions is never a good idea. It's better to double-check.

one pattern in her reads list is that she does a lot of "I think x because Y but they should probably be higher/lower. like she was constantly giving herself wiggle room on all of her reads. my eyebrow is raised a little at the taco and kazyan town reads a little because she had fairly specific reasons for town reading each of them (versus other reads of being like "can't quite remember but generally good stances) and then immediately undercut herself by saying that maybe they belonged a little lower

I like this. If I get a chance to, I'll maybe take a look at those.

Ah yes, werewolves sharing a masonry with two town players magically means they know who all the slots in the games' alignments are.

I think Kakeguri's point was that if the werewolves wanted to shoot town last night and avoid killing the same person as mafia (that rules out killing morph the cat), they could have just killed the third mason whose identity they already knew. Presumably, this mason is not werewolf aligned like Manatee, which admittedly is a questionable but not unreasonable assumption.

Regardless, pretty random kill. Potentially aimed to make pooky or unwind look dodgy?

What makes you think this? (That is, how does it reflect poorly on Pooky or unwnd?)

i vote if this flips scum we speed fade vfp and just end the day

You just said your role is now boring, and yet you want to enter night as soon as possible. Where is this confidence coming from?

UNVOTE: CheekyTeeky

I dont want Celestial Powerhouse to hammer unless they townread me

I don't like this. It really shouldn't matter who hammers. This is being petty at best.

ftr I don't really think vecna is a wolf

Can you elaborate?

i can only think people are pushing pooky right now because they desperately need not-scum eliminations

It doesn't seem like many people are doing that. I see maybe one or two people doing that.

lots of fake bravado

I think I am starting to see where this is coming from with regards to Taco. I'm not sure yet about whether I agree with the conclusion though.

Maybe I should just out some pr results and eat a bullet or a claw or w/e

Noting...

what pisses me off is some of yall are just openwolfing with your scumreads on me and some of you are just being shitty surface level readers and i can' tell the difference because none of you will fucking ellaborate on your read

The AtE here is duly noted. What precisely makes the scumreads on you "openwolfing", and who do you think this applies to?

im going to full claim if people dont knock this shit off.

and yall will regret that bc i am a particularly useful anti ww role with majority ww left.

You aren't doing yourself any favors here. What is the purpose of this? Actions speak louder than words; don't want to be scum read? Then show that you are town (rather than telling everyone again and again that you are town without doing anything of importance.)

Don’t form reads taco just vote DGF

Why are you giving people an excuse to not read? How are we supposed to find scum if we give scum a free pass to sheep?

all this talk about me not reading the game when people aren't reading my slot at all, makes you really think.

You aren't giving evidence you are reading the game. Like, your top scum read is unwnd which is kinda ???. (I wouldn't say I'm super town reading them per se, but they are far from a top scum read of mine). You've asked people to explain why they are scum reading you, yet they have multiple times mentioning things like your lack of reading and soft claiming.

i think arguments, even if TvT, are extremely useful when evaluating how people around the argument are reacting to it.

I disagree. They take up space and don't lead to much. People can take whatever stance they want; it gets drowned out by the argument. Yours though seems like a TvS argument.

Look at me be useless

FTFY.
~Ircher

lol this entire post is performative

half the shit you quoted from me is like just "quick i need shit to make this look like I'm *doing* something* kinda shit.

i think its hilarious how much you dance around my PR claim being a point in my favor while trying to discred it. you know I'm town and want to push for my mislim here, huh?

[Taco Hemingway]

I actually think Taco can go now. I wasn't sure at first but then I saw their AtE.
~Ircher

if you scumread me, fucking case me - don't just play around like you think you're slick with a non-holistic look at my slot.

This is odd coming from someone who fakes guilties.

when you go from accusing my AtE of being scum indicative to switching up to personal insult of my towngame.

you know I'm town don't you?

What about my "ate" is scummy?

Ircher has his reasons for the top post.

I find your reaction to FoSes overblown considering you'll fake guilities and put players in spots that can't be reasoned out of.

And?

[Taco Hemingway]

We're not sure if them not knowing about the malefactor means they are pretending to be dumb in order to get townread

Taco is a player that I have seen try to "townslip" as scum by saying they did not understand the mechanics before (while meta reading someone else, and just stumbling on it lol). So, I am definitely taking that with a grain of salt.

Prove it.

[Taco Hemingway]

No wait, I remembered, I did so in Mini Normal Bending but regardless, its NAI, and you're trying too hard to reach for NAI things to discred me.

[Taco Hemingway]

Lukewarm wht aren’t you voting

Mainly because I have been debating voting Taco, but like, I guess that can be tomorrow

VOTE: dgb

Morph argued that ManateeDude had low engagement in their masonry

Was this a masonry or a neighborhood?

Masonry -- but the masonry only guaranteed no mafia, no guarantees on werewolves. And Manatee flipped as a werewolf mason

do u townread DGB now?

[Taco Hemingway]

VOTE: The Resistance

Ircher is fairly blatantly just active lurking and offering not much of value analysis wise(also hilarious they claimed I have unwnd as my top scumread and claimed I wasn't reading the game also, weird take from that perspective)

Titus is just hard focused on discredding me based on a play I did in their last game where at least i had the WIM to actually give a shit and try that game rather than just get carried and have others lay it out.

[Taco Hemingway]

I don't mind if I need to trade for this to happen, but unlikely since my crumbs for my role are pretty airtight atp and if you think imade this role up you're ridiculous and trolling.

[Taco Hemingway]

why do you care so much about discredding that?

[Taco Hemingway]

like dude i literally said in that post "i dont care if you dont believe me" because I was awaiting the random nerd who is in every game who loudly proclaims "townslips don't exist"(when they do) who refuse to play the game easier for town

[Taco Hemingway]

why are u dodging my question abt ur read on DGB btw

[Taco Hemingway]

like deadass I guarantee like nearly every town member didnt know about malefactor except the nerds who actually read every single OP post in games thoroughly.


sorry i dont have time for that, dayplay doesnt care for it and i can just look up mechs when I need them/they are important to what I am deducing at that moment

[Taco Hemingway]

why are u dodging my question abt ur read on DGB btw

Must have missed it.

I am still voting DGB, because I still think that VFP was scum. I will unvote if that ever changes

then why did you react as charitably as you did towards their question about something they, as scum, would be pretending to not know about? You called me on my slip, so whats going on here?

[Taco Hemingway]

actually no they're a full slot and wow their ISO is barren

[Taco Hemingway]

I was about to go read ythans but I see they replaced kdowns slot and I don't have to anymore bless up for saving time

[Taco Hemingway]

some answers to any questions I may receive:

Will I be reading what happened on pages 1-13? - Probably not.

Will I do so if you ask me? - Probably not.

Hope that makes stuff clear.

wasn't lying btw

and I knew there was that alignment possible i just thought it was just another flavor for a scum faction, I didnt see any role info

[Taco Hemingway]

WHen I signed up I just followed a link that peta posted in the epicmafia forum maf discord and said yeah lets do it so lmao

[Taco Hemingway]

after DGB has posted a bit I feel mindmeldy with the slot so i'm hard feeling that as a no go ever.

[Taco Hemingway]

I counted the

words

in Vaxkiller's iso.

THERE ARE

FIFTY EIGHT

WORDS

TOTAL.

You do know that that can similalry describe your own slot, right?

VFP had 7 posts in 100 pages

that looks more to be an IRL issue for VFP since they said they were sick. I would choose to believe that is a more reasonable explaination based on the further evidence from DGB's postings looking good for the slot. Having an off day/week is not scum indicative.

[Taco Hemingway]

Look at me

I dont know I want to do something

y dgb?

y dgb?

Look at VFP's iso

Also, Morph told us too

I dont get it. ELI5 plz

like they are literally doing nothing and dont wanna commit to anythign LOL

deadass did the same dip in dip out that spiffeh did


tbh prob gonna flip malefactor but doubtful this is town

[Taco Hemingway]

VOTE: Vaxkiller

[Taco Hemingway]

Sorry I'm ill.

[Taco Hemingway]

vfp's inactivity is pretty blatantly NAI like idc, judge the slot based on the newcomer, nothing VFP said was alignment indicative when their claim of being sick is applied, and if you think it was, you're trolling

[Taco Hemingway]

but, we can do an exercise in why VFP was town just based on their posts, because there is that glimmer of town thought process within just these few posts anyways. It was why I was very much angry about the rushing onto vfp because I thought it was a bad push but i was too embarssed to say something until dgb spoke because I wanted to confirm if they would towntell on entrance.

T3
Probably was a bad attempt at a joke. T3 doesn't usually detail so much in a single post.

Here, VFP is defusing pressure against T3 right off the bat. T3 slot is now Dann. You townread Dann? Cool, this looks good for VFP then.

here is the guide to reading anya

someone else wrote this up i'm just paraphrasing

if anya claims vt -> she's wolf kill her
if anya provides a guide to reading her -> town she has no fear
if anya provides a guide to reading her but says it's towny for her to provide a guide -> she's wolf looking for coins
if anya provides a guide to reading her but says it's towny for her to provide a guide but then reveals it's wolfy for her to look for coins -> 100% town no shame

i might've forgotten an item or 2 but that was the gist

It's more like

Anya fucking around - Town
Anya helpful - Scum

Direct engagement with another slot. I can tell the thought was a bit like "stfu anya let me summarize what you said here and then make a claim that puts mild pressure on you to participate more meaningfully". A bit of an "i got my eye on you" thought.

Fun fact!

I feel like pooky is up playing their trolly nature to have a reason to coast through. Its the same play they did in another multiball game, csn i get a BOOM SHAKA BOOM

its actually really easy to read me when i play multiball

I'm reading you as scum so far.

Same concept as before but a bit more straightforward, and the thought is stringed into the below post. Chained thought processes are town indicative in my experience. When you shift and flow thoughts like this, it is hard to fake as scum. I don't think VFP is at that level of scumplay to do that so I would confidently lean this as town.

also i've never coasted thru a multiball game in my life

Are you coasting now?

And the contrast, with Vax, is very plain. Vax just makes statements that just display that they are sometimes here. Its a heavy contrast with VFP's low content.

Shouldn't be too hard to see the difference here.

[Taco Hemingway]

Thats cool, everything VFP has posted leans towny regardless how you try to spin it.

[Taco Hemingway]

Titus, Taco is this game's Votato (It wouldnt even surprise me if its his new account if thats possible).

DGB is likely the remaining mafia or town, purely based on noone giving a crap about that elimination and the timing of the replace out.

Wolves are likely 2 out of <Kakegari/Ythan/Mastina/Anya) with potentially a mafia in there as well if DGB is town.

Fuck off. I hate that kid. Dont compare me to him.

[Taco Hemingway]

and im campaigning against a dgb lim today, i think they are town.

[Taco Hemingway]

Im not claiming more than i have already

[Taco Hemingway]

The reason is because roleblocker is one of my false positives

[Taco Hemingway]

U know what, imma just claim more of it. Im basically a gunsmith but for ww

[Taco Hemingway]

Theres other false positive roles but i refuse to claim what they are

[Taco Hemingway]

No, i cant act on n1

[Taco Hemingway]

God yall are either tunneled as shit or wolves who want dont wanna waste a nightkill on me

[Taco Hemingway]

So you don't think you're tunneled. I mean expected from a player who lacks awareness often

[Taco Hemingway]

dgb is flipping town and it seems more ans more like your hydra lacks an original thought. Crazy how 3 people can manage that.

[Taco Hemingway]

dgb is flipping town and it seems more ans more like your hydra lacks an original thought. Crazy how 3 people can manage that.

Like unless you think im exactly scum with dgb, even if you scum read me, im gonna haveva genuine read there because if there was a chance i thought they'd flip scum i wouldn't defend them

[Taco Hemingway]

PEDIT: I'm just a messenger!

oh if that's the words of morph then they are trolls and i hate them

dgb is flipping town and it seems more ans more like your hydra lacks an original thought. Crazy how 3 people can manage that.

Rly makes you think

[Taco Hemingway]

0/3

[Taco Hemingway]

im unwilling to listen to anything taco says until my cat is proven wrong at least once

This is super garbage coming from you. I expect better from you es0 since cabd misread youe slot in a shitty way b4. We already flipped the pieces that cabd found. 0% chance their reads are all accurate.

[Taco Hemingway]

If im wolf i would be able to actually coach manatee to get townread. Yall are ridiculous like i know how to help people do the right thing to be townread by the right people when scum. Hell i can stay in that just right zone as scum and avoid being a major scumread excelt the people i push into consensus PoE.

[Taco Hemingway]

That looks like AtE in its truestfotm

And?

[Taco Hemingway]

You dont know how to read AtE so sounds like its useless to you!!! Tough luck!!!!!

[Taco Hemingway]

I wish i was an IC so i could fucking clown on you so hard rn

I just await my death n2

[Taco Hemingway]

Do you townread vax?

[Taco Hemingway]

i have a post half typed on my pc that ill finish later but yup

[Taco Hemingway]

man the fact yall both respect and disrespect my scumgame at the same time, meaning you think im both skilled and unskilled at scum is quite funny. but it doesnt matter because you're so tunneled that you think that 1 person being right on a few people means they are right on all of them.


I also outted a similarly very accurate list of reads in a multiball game(grand idea), but it was not 100% foolproof. I had a couple nontown in my townreads, and 1 in my nulls, and a couple town in my scum.

So it confuses me like why you think morph is 100% accurate without doing your own critical thought and reexamining like instead you try to work backwards constantly.


again - why is DGB slot scum, and why is Vax town?

[Taco Hemingway]

I wish i was an IC so i could fucking clown on you so hard rn

I just await my death n2

ngl i wouldnt listen to you even if you were an IC

my cat has better reads than you

next time your cat deathtunnels your slot i will simply let them even if they townread you.

[Taco Hemingway]

if I townread **

[Taco Hemingway]

man the fact yall both respect and disrespect my scumgame at the same time, meaning you think im both skilled and unskilled at scum is quite funny. but it doesnt matter because you're so tunneled that you think that 1 person being right on a few people means they are right on all of them.


I also outted a similarly very accurate list of reads in a multiball game(grand idea), but it was not 100% foolproof. I had a couple nontown in my townreads, and 1 in my nulls, and a couple town in my scum.

So it confuses me like why you think morph is 100% accurate without doing your own critical thought and reexamining like instead you try to work backwards constantly.


again - why is DGB slot scum, and why is Vax town?

this is my partially typed post finished from earlier btw @celestial

[Taco Hemingway]

im unwilling to listen to anything taco says until my cat is proven wrong at least once

This is super garbage coming from you. I expect better from you es0 since cabd misread youe slot in a shitty way b4. We already flipped the pieces that cabd found. 0% chance their reads are all accurate.

what?

when?

I dont even remember cabd misreading me.

also my cat is like 2/2 so far, there's no reason not to ride the hot hand.

that was your alt in that large normal game. you replaced into a slot taht cabd decided was scum and you were hard tunneled and I tried to throw them off. and then you proceeded to mislim my own slot like a pro.

[Taco Hemingway]

I don't think their emotion or frustration is AI

they strike me as the type of player to use that frustration and emotion as either alignment

the claim just kinda means we can leave them for now - kind of a dumb move as either alignment, which also means it could come from either alignment, but I'd agree with someone's assessment I forget who that said tilt claims more likely come from town usually

but um otherwise there's not much to talk about regarding that slot today

I mean like I literally claimed i can get a result tonight so lmao

[Taco Hemingway]

If im wolf i would be able to actually coach manatee to get townread. Yall are ridiculous like i know how to help people do the right thing to be townread by the right people when scum. Hell i can stay in that just right zone as scum and avoid being a major scumread excelt the people i push into consensus PoE.

lol what?

you weren't even around when we were putting ManaTee into the kill zone

I would have curated a gamestate where they wouldn't be there in the first place. Plus i literally drew attention to them first so the fact i can't have any credit for that is quite obnoxious.

[Taco Hemingway]

this is why I nearly never bus as scum except when partners are being obvious as all hell bc it doesnt ever work out lmfoa

like shit, it makes more fucking sense that I'm the last mafia member and yet people try to say I'm wolf and its stupid. I literally hard defended echo slot d1 - and for weak meta reasons too.


like thats why im not respecting much of what anyone who is FOSing me is saying because they have these wildly shitty illogical conceptions about me that make 0 sense.

[Taco Hemingway]

dgb is 100 times more lucid and towny sounding than I have ever experienced it being before as town

it's freaking me out

its almost like


the slot is *town*

[Taco Hemingway]

I don't think their emotion or frustration is AI

they strike me as the type of player to use that frustration and emotion as either alignment

the claim just kinda means we can leave them for now - kind of a dumb move as either alignment, which also means it could come from either alignment, but I'd agree with someone's assessment I forget who that said tilt claims more likely come from town usually

but um otherwise there's not much to talk about regarding that slot today

i'm more or less at the edges of my scumrange in terms of emotional range, its still possible theoreticaly yes, but I am being honest in that I am notably uh... "nicer" or rather, my meanness tends to come off as fake. My last scum game i tried to fake mild "toxicity" several times. Its a difference that is one of the few reliable tells on me when trying to effectively sort me.


oh and @pooky you should know that

[Taco Hemingway]

dgb is 100 times more lucid and towny sounding than I have ever experienced it being before as town

it's freaking me out

dannnnnnn that means its scummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

-Mister Ocean

why?

[Taco Hemingway]

well I am town and I feel very mindmeldy with the slot so unless you're like suggesting that they are actually able to naturally mimic town thought process as scum better than being actually town then like ?

[Taco Hemingway]

If anyone knows any DGB scumgames off the top of their head pls link I will take a look myself.

[Taco Hemingway]

i'm more or less at the edges of my scumrange in terms of emotional range, its still possible theoreticaly yes, but I am being honest in that I am notably uh... "nicer" or rather, my meanness tends to come off as fake. My last scum game i tried to fake mild "toxicity" several times. Its a difference that is one of the few reliable tells on me when trying to effectively sort me.


oh and @pooky you should know that

I don't really know who you are and if I did I don't think you're someone I know well enough to be able to meta read

I think in general it's very easy to read into the type of emotion you were displaying and say it's town, but a lot of the time it isn't. I'm not saying you are scum but I would encourage people to look more at your actions/read over that to read you

we haven't played in a game together, it was moreso at the people who DO know me and are displaying very contradictory logic in how they are reading me

[Taco Hemingway]

you were both the same alignment

[Taco Hemingway]

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=84709&user_select[]=1752

VOTE: DGB

I've been convinced.

[Taco Hemingway]

@DGB fullclaim

[Taco Hemingway]

Yeah I know, my style of being open to argument and changing my mind makes me hard to play around if you're scum

[Taco Hemingway]

I was also mildly pinged before that they didn't immediately scumread me on replacein so there's that lmfao but i had waved it off on the basis that it was towntelling in other ways

[Taco Hemingway]

I mostly just looked at the replace-in thought process, in Death Curse they replaced into a scum slot, and it immediately started with trying to look aloof and confused, which is a stark similarity to this game. I will crosscheck with a town game, but this looks pretty damning.

[Taco Hemingway]

i think i've seen the light

[Taco Hemingway]

ah I was in Brutalism, I'm Reformed Toxic Player lmao
got N1ed because I was on the right track F

[Taco Hemingway]

you were both the same alignment

that's a minor detail that is unimportant.

the important part is Ana kicked his butt when he tried to pull that shit on her.

-_- just admit you townread me here