Micro 1021: Elect the Puppet Master [Scum wins]

[Department of Health]

Nobody here stands out as particularly towny to me right now. I'm getting the impression that people are afraid of giving away too much info, but it's hampering the game right now.

A valid strategy is to semi-randomly vote someone in as minister here, they then become immune to becoming a puppet and can speak freely and lead the town.
Of course, we have a 1/7 chance of losing, but it is what it is.

I was thinking we could delegate this decision to either environment or health, with the caveat that they can't pick themselves.

Can you explain the mechanics because I’m a bit confused. As long as we don’t vote the PM today, we’re good and if we elect two more ministers, we win.

I agree, your post is probably the most helpful one so far, which unfortunately doesn’t tell us much.

[Department of Health]

I do not and will not entertain "people are hampering play by being silly in the first hours of day 1". I don't know why anyone does and that's why I soft vote against electing Department of Health.

@MOD

The puppetmaster's daytime identity guess solely relies on the dice roll and not an actual guess, right? Also, does being minister prevent you from being targeted by that daytime ability, and/or simply having had been targeted by it before makes you immune?

That wasn’t even me, I just sort of agreed with it.

All I said was it wasn’t helpful to me which was true, so you’re ms interpreting my intention. You’re taking it as a criticism which wasn’t what I meant at all.

[Department of Health]

Nobody here stands out as particularly towny to me right now. I'm getting the impression that people are afraid of giving away too much info, but it's hampering the game right now.

A valid strategy is to semi-randomly vote someone in as minister here, they then become immune to becoming a puppet and can speak freely and lead the town.
Of course, we have a 1/7 chance of losing, but it is what it is.

I was thinking we could delegate this decision to either environment or health, with the caveat that they can't pick themselves.

Can you explain the mechanics because I’m a bit confused. As long as we don’t vote the PM today, we’re good and if we elect two more ministers, we win.

I agree, your post is probably the most helpful one so far, which unfortunately doesn’t tell us much.

I don’t like Tweets. They clearly mixed up my post with Culture.

[Department of Health]

Nobody here stands out as particularly towny to me right now. I'm getting the impression that people are afraid of giving away too much info, but it's hampering the game right now.

A valid strategy is to semi-randomly vote someone in as minister here, they then become immune to becoming a puppet and can speak freely and lead the town.
Of course, we have a 1/7 chance of losing, but it is what it is.

I was thinking we could delegate this decision to either environment or health, with the caveat that they can't pick themselves.

Can you explain the mechanics because I’m a bit confused. As long as we don’t vote the PM today, we’re good and if we elect two more ministers, we win.

I agree, your post is probably the most helpful one so far, which unfortunately doesn’t tell us much.

You mean the game mechanics?

Voting puppet master is a loss, but voting out puppets is good because it removes that puppet from play and blocks the creation of new puppets for that night. Voting three Ministers is a town win, and I believe Ministers stay alive once elected.

I took the lack of action taken from you/environment to mean we weren't going with that plan in post 13, which is fine.

I’m just trying to get a handle on the game. Can you please requote that post for me?

[Department of Health]

So far, I like Dept of Culture, I’m getting good vibes from them.

[Department of Health]

Nobody here stands out as particularly towny to me right now. I'm getting the impression that people are afraid of giving away too much info, but it's hampering the game right now.

A valid strategy is to semi-randomly vote someone in as minister here, they then become immune to becoming a puppet and can speak freely and lead the town.
Of course, we have a 1/7 chance of losing, but it is what it is.

I was thinking we could delegate this decision to either environment or health, with the caveat that they can't pick themselves.

Can you explain the mechanics because I’m a bit confused. As long as we don’t vote the PM today, we’re good and if we elect two more ministers, we win.

I agree, your post is probably the most helpful one so far, which unfortunately doesn’t tell us much.

You mean the game mechanics?

Voting puppet master is a loss, but voting out puppets is good because it removes that puppet from play and blocks the creation of new puppets for that night. Voting three Ministers is a town win, and I believe Ministers stay alive once elected.

I took the lack of action taken from you/environment to mean we weren't going with that plan in post 13, which is fine.

I’m just trying to get a handle on the game. Can you please requote that post for me?

What do you mean by re-quote the post?

or link to make it easier for me to read post #13 obviously because I’m still not sure which post you’re referring to. When I try to locate posts without quotes or links, I sometimes don’t find the correct one.

[Department of Health]

Department of Tweets is obvscum so I think we win.

Why?

[Department of Health]

or link to make it easier for me to read post #13 obviously because I’m still not sure which post you’re referring to. When I try to locate posts without quotes or links, I sometimes don’t find the correct one.

A valid strategy is to semi-randomly vote someone in as minister here, they then become immune to becoming a puppet and can speak freely and lead the town.
Of course, we have a 1/7 chance of losing, but it is what it is.

I was thinking we could delegate this decision to either environment or health, with the caveat that they can't pick themselves.

This was what I was suggesting we do, but then it didn't happen, and
then I decided to vote for Environment instead, because I liked their posts the most.

Can you explain why? I’m currently null on them.

[Department of Health]

I think post count is irrelevant, it’s the content of what is posted that is important.

[Department of Health]

VOTE: Department of Tweets

I have the best post counts and the best content so far. I find it really suspicious Department of Tweets was suspicious of my post count and want them voted out.

Have you read the setup? We don’t vote anyone out here, we vote to elect. If you’re suspicious of Tweets, then they should be the last slot you vote for.

[Department of Health]

or link to make it easier for me to read post #13 obviously because I’m still not sure which post you’re referring to. When I try to locate posts without quotes or links, I sometimes don’t find the correct one.

A valid strategy is to semi-randomly vote someone in as minister here, they then become immune to becoming a puppet and can speak freely and lead the town.
Of course, we have a 1/7 chance of losing, but it is what it is.

I was thinking we could delegate this decision to either environment or health, with the caveat that they can't pick themselves.

This was what I was suggesting we do, but then it didn't happen, and then I decided to vote for Environment instead, because I liked their posts the most.

I think maybe a few players you trust, since you get more info that way? I still don’t understand why you like environment that much.

[Department of Health]

What do people think? It seems like Department of Tweets mixed up their scum partner with someone who's town, which would make Culture Department scum since I know I am town.

Setup:

Elect the Puppet Master

Secret Alt Game

1

Puppet Master

6

Townies

Day eliminations are called elections. Elections are compulsive.
If

Puppet Master

gets elected, it imminently wins. If

Townie

gets elected, it becomes

Minister

. If

Puppet

gets elected then following night is being skipped and this

Puppet

is removed from the game.
During night

Puppet Master

may select a

non-minister

Townie

and turn it in to

Puppet

. Original owner of that account may no longer post from it and account access is being given to

Puppet Master

.
During day

Puppet Master

may try to guess the real identity of

Townie

and has to roll d4. If it succeeds, selected

Townie

will be turned in to a

Puppet

. If it fails and dice rolls 1 then this

Townie

may no longer be targeted by this ability and it becomes

Minister

.

Town wins once they posses 3

Ministers

.

Townies

, who got turned in to

Puppets

don't lose their win condition.

There is one ONE baddie in this game. Idk if Tweets is scum or not but there’s only one in this setup and that’s

Zoraster

the puppet master.

[Department of Health]

VOTE COUNT 1.2

With 7 players alive it takes 4 to elect.

Department of Agriculture (2):Department of Justice, Department of Agriculture
Department of Environment (1): Department of Culture,
Department of Education (1): Department of Education,
Department of Health (0):
Department of Culture (1):Department of Tweets
Department of Justice (0),
Department of Tweets (0):

Not voting (2): Department of Health, Department of Environment,
Deadline: (expired on 2021-07-22 19:00:00)

mod, what happens if no one gets four votes?

[Department of Health]

So Agriculture, since you don’t need a majority, just plurality, does my vote actually matter? Not that I have any issue with you or anything but it seems your election is a shoe in, regardless of my vote.

[Department of Health]

VOTE: Department of Agriculture

There. Could I be any more obvtown for you, Environment? This game is so dumb and no one here understands me. I'm so out of my scumrange here and it's just plain disrespectful to not think I'm town here.

Actually, I think I should vote you for calling the game “dumb”. - no disrespect intended mod.

VOTE: Agriculture

More game should be like this - where thinking isn’t a necessary requirement pf playing. XD

[Department of Health]

I vote next: Agriculture/Culture/me > Justice/Tweets/Education . Order doesn’t matter. Most suspicious of Education.

[Department of Health]

I vote next: Agriculture/Culture/me > Justice/Tweets/Education . Order doesn’t matter. Most suspicious of Education.

You're really stressing me out with your agriculture tr, health. PLEASE explain it, for the love of god

They townslipped/dumbtold. Maybe you’re also town? I don’t think Education is though. There is only one PM, so why are you convinced it’s Agriculture?

[Department of Health]

You guys can't just vote for yourself and say nothing, that doesn't help anybody

I can vote Culture today. I’ve been liking their posting.

[Department of Health]

i was gonna say i wanted to wait until culture posted more to decide whether or not they've been puppetted, then i thought "well i guess it doesn't matter actually", then i had that previous thought.
tho i guess getting rid of a puppet sooner would be better than later?

Oh, how can we tell that?

That would seriously mess with my reads then.

Kerset would pm whomever that is, I’m assuming?

[Department of Health]

i was gonna say i wanted to wait until culture posted more to decide whether or not they've been puppetted, then i thought "well i guess it doesn't matter actually", then i had that previous thought.
tho i guess getting rid of a puppet sooner would be better than later?

So it doesn’t really matter if we vote a possible puppet instead of a minister?

So long as we don’t elect PM?

[Department of Health]

honestly health the stressful part is that you've been taking everything agriculture is saying at face value

The difficult part of this game is the lack of associatives. But that will change today because of a puppet, right?

[Department of Health]

why not health?

+1

Yes Education, I would love to knpw your rationale for this.

It had better be because they don’t think I’m a puppet, otherwise either they’re one or PM.

[Department of Health]

I never ever fake derping or dumbtelling and it’s not nonsensical because I’m very obviously not PM or puppet so you’re either terrible at reading me or you’re one of them.

If I was either PM or puppet, I would be pushing one player through, which I’m clearly not doing. I think Tweets is likely neither puppet or PM now.

[Department of Health]

Setup:

Elect the Puppet Master

Secret Alt Game

1

Puppet Master

6

Townies

Day eliminations are called elections. Elections are compulsive.
If

Puppet Master

gets elected, it imminently wins. If

Townie

gets elected, it becomes

Minister

. If

Puppet

gets elected then following night is being skipped and this

Puppet

is removed from the game.
During night

Puppet Master

may select a

non-minister

Townie

and turn it in to

Puppet

. Original owner of that account may no longer post from it and account access is being given to

Puppet Master

.
During day

Puppet Master

may try to guess the real identity of

Townie

and has to roll d4. If it succeeds, selected

Townie

will be turned in to a

Puppet

. If it fails and dice rolls 1 then this

Townie

may no longer be targeted by this ability and it becomes

Minister

.

Town wins once they posses 3

Ministers

.

Townies

, who got turned in to

Puppets

don't lose their win condition.

Health wants us to believe they didn't read the one paragraph explaining the game. Maybe they didn't but how are you playing this game without reading this paragraph?

And that’s why your read on me is bad. So you obviously must think I’m PM based on this and not puppet, which is hysterical.

Because anyone thinking logically would realize that if I were PM I would obviously understand this a lot better than I do.

I’m neithrr PM or puppet.

[Department of Health]

This is like Ditto, so it’s actually not difficult to tell who is puppet because PM takes over the account, so look to anyone who’s posting style seems suddenly different or faked, so Education is probably not puppet.

So if the goal is to vote out a puppet today, then we can remove us, Tweets and Education from suspicion of that since they sound same as D1.

[Department of Health]

This is like Ditto, so it’s actually not difficult to tell who is puppet because PM takes over the account, so look to anyone who’s posting style seems suddenly different or faked, so Education is probably not puppet.

So if the goal is to vote out a puppet today, then we can remove us, Tweets and Education from suspicion of that since they sound same as D1.

Unless PM correctly guesses the real identity of anyone of us, assuming it’s not actually Education.

[Department of Health]

The way to find PM, is they will probably try to guess true identities. so all townies need to be extremely careful in not giving that away.

So Education is definitely not puppet, they’re either PM or townie.

[Department of Health]

Setup:

Elect the Puppet Master

Secret Alt Game

1

Puppet Master

6

Townies

Day eliminations are called elections. Elections are compulsive.
If

Puppet Master

gets elected, it imminently wins. If

Townie

gets elected, it becomes

Minister

. If

Puppet

gets elected then following night is being skipped and this

Puppet

is removed from the game.
During night

Puppet Master

may select a

non-minister

Townie

and turn it in to

Puppet

. Original owner of that account may no longer post from it and account access is being given to

Puppet Master

.
During day

Puppet Master

may try to guess the real identity of

Townie

and has to roll d4. If it succeeds, selected

Townie

will be turned in to a

Puppet

. If it fails and dice rolls 1 then this

Townie

may no longer be targeted by this ability and it becomes

Minister

.

Town wins once they posses 3

Ministers

.

Townies

, who got turned in to

Puppets

don't lose their win condition.

Health wants us to believe they didn't read the one paragraph explaining the game. Maybe they didn't but how are you playing this game without reading this paragraph?

And that’s why your read on me is bad. So you obviously must think I’m PM based on this and not puppet, which is hysterical.

Because anyone thinking logically would realize that if I were PM I would obviously understand this a lot better than I do.

I’m neithrr PM or puppet.

So which is more optimal,voting out puppet if we can find them, or electing another town minister?

[Department of Health]

why not health?

Tweets is probably town since we’re town.

[Department of Health]

VOTE: DoJ

Have we possibly found our puppet?

[Department of Health]

VOTE: department of agriculture
A puppet master never makes 85,

VOTE: DoJ

Why are they suddenly self-voting after being so strong on Agriculture?

Putting down a self-vote with no explanation is a way for possible PM - whomever that might be - to make sure we never vote them.

It makes absolutely no sense for Justice to self-vote here instead of voting Agriculture, so I think odds are decent, this is likely puppet.

[Department of Health]

Putting down a self-vote with no explanation is a way for possible PM - whomever that might be - to make sure we never vote them.

Have you still not read the paragraph?

Yes, I have. Why are you asking me that?

[Department of Health]

So if we successfully vote out puppet, the, PM can’t create a new puppet unless they correctly guess someone’s identity and role d4.

[Department of Health]

Education, thoughts on 180?

And I mean the ENTIRE post. Do you seriously not see my case on why Justice rn looks like most likely puppet?

Like I’m not 100% sure yet but it does seem weird to me that they would naked self-vote after pushing so hard for Agriculture.

[Department of Health]

ngl health is sounding kinda different
but that's a thought for d3

I’m not a puppet. But in the assumption that we do, we actually have more to work with.

It stands to reason that puppet won’t post a lot because then we will be able to possibly figure out who’s PM because they’ve got both accounts.

[Department of Health]

VOTE: department of agriculture
A puppet master never makes 85,

VOTE: DoJ

Why are they suddenly self-voting after being so strong on Agriculture?

Putting down a self-vote with no explanation is a way for possible PM - whomever that might be - to make sure we never vote them.

It makes absolutely no sense for Justice to self-vote here instead of voting Agriculture, so I think odds are decent, this is likely puppet.

DoJ could be puppet but I'd rather get elected than puppet hunt (which is scum hunting, meaning we could hit the PM)

But if we find puppet, then no nk right? Meaning night is skipped. I’m town which should be really super obvious rn. I’m okay being elected too but I think it’s even better to vote out puppet if we can be certain and rn, my best guess is Justice.

[Department of Health]

I'd rather die than vote for Health. Vote me and I'll find the 3rd minister.

Why not?

Or maybe you’re PM?

And maybe I’m not wrong on Justice being a puppet?

Why else would you suddenly have such a strong negative reaction to my slot?

[Department of Health]

The way to find PM, is they will probably try to guess true identities.

how is this a way to find puppet master?

Something in the OP about if PM guesses correctly and rolls D4.

Maybe you’re not puppet then but no one else seems any different that I can tell?

[Department of Health]

Kai wacked Agruculture on the back of the head with his whacking staff

You are shameful. "Oh, pwease vowte me! I pwomise I won't huwt you, and I'll even pway the game UwU"
At least try to hunt for the Puppet Master before being elected, because right now, you should be the last player to be voted for.

+1

I completely lost whatever tr I had on them D1.

[Department of Health]

ngl health is sounding kinda different
but that's a thought for d3

I’m not a puppet. But in the assumption that we do, we actually have more to work with.

It stands to reason that puppet won’t post a lot because then we will be able to possibly figure out who’s PM because they’ve got both accounts.

thats what a puppet would say

What do I have to do to convince you, vote myself?

VOTE: Health

*cue to exactly what a puppet would do amirite?*

[Department of Health]

Kai wacked Agruculture on the back of the head with his whacking staff

You are shameful. "Oh, pwease vowte me! I pwomise I won't huwt you, and I'll even pway the game UwU"
At least try to hunt for the Puppet Master before being elected, because right now, you should be the last player to be voted for.

This is silly. We don't win the game by finding the puppet master, we win by electing ministers. It's clear I'm not the puppet master so we should vote for me today.

How are you not PM with this post? Of course we need to find PM because we lose the game by electing them and I really think it’s likely you.

I really dislike the way you did that extreme 180 on me because I was trying to find the puppet.

I’m still liking Culture, Tweets and Education is growing on me.

[Department of Health]

OK

In my opinion Department of Justice has changed the way they postin between days 1 and 2, and everybody else feels like the same person. Did they ever explain why they went from voting agriculture to themself?

+1

See, I’m not the only one. PM read on Agriculture intensifies.

[Department of Health]

puppet master has 2 votes today, be careful because there can be a ninjaing near EoD

did Justice just make a towny post?
legitimately, thanks for the reminder. I forgot about that

also yeah im down VOTE: Department of Health
if you somehow end up being puppetmaster gg

I am unpuppeted town. If we can all agree Justice is puppet, it would probably be better to elect them today and me tomorrow but it seems so far, only Culture is seeing that. :/

[Department of Health]

I am very uncomfortable with department of health being elected.

Kai looked suspiciously at the sky, a bit startled by what he saw.

I had a dream last night, that Heath was the Puppet Master, and that we had lost because of me. I think we should hunt for a puppet.
UNVOTE:

It’s beyond obvious I’m not. I only voted myself to show Tweets I wasn’t puppeted.

[Department of Health]

I am very uncomfortable with department of health being elected.

What is your case on me? I obviously know you’re wrong but I would still seriously like to know?

[Department of Health]

I'm not puppet, but knowing so many people think that means I'm NOT a pm it means I'm an extraordinarily safe vote today because you either get a minister or take a vote away from PM and also have better odds tomorrow on hitting town (but I read my role pm and I know I will be a minister)

VOTE: Justice

People are apparently being stupid with regards to me, so I’m fine with this.

[Department of Health]

Oh and Agriculture is still my best guess for PM.

[Department of Health]

VOTE COUNT 2.2

With 7 players alive it takes 4 to elect.

Department of Health (3): Department of Environment, Department of Health, Department of Tweets
Department of Agriculture (1): Department of Agriculture,
Department of Education (1): Department of Education,
Department of Justice (1), Department of Justice,
Department of Culture (0):
Department of Tweets (0):

Not voting (1): Department of Culture,

Deadline: (expired on 2021-07-31 18:00:00)

Well we don’t have a lot of time left. I don’t want Agriculture and I can revote myself but two people think I’m PM so I figured I vote my best guess for puppet.

The reason I’m the most suspicious of Agriculture is because they had a strange take on me for trying to find the puppet which I thought was optimal if we guessed right because then PM can’t make another puppet, so I don’t know what to do now. I’m town which I think should be obvious by the way I’m genuinely trying to figure out the game.

I’m still the lead wagon despite Environment 180 which I totally don’t get, so based on that and the time left, I should probably revote myself?

VOTE: Health

If another wagon I like looks like it win surpass mine, I will switch. So long as we don’t elect Agriculture, I think we’re hopefully safe.

All they’ve done is pretty much demand to get elected and have done pretty much virtually no solving.

I’m also okay with you or Culture since the two of you are doing the most solving.

[Department of Health]

So Environment, if you still don’t trust me, endorse Tweets or Culture unless you think Justice is the puppet?

I’m fine with that.

[Department of Health]

I personally believe that we should try to vote out a puppet today, because the worst case scenario is that the Puppet Master already has 2 puppets right now (Something which could be reasonably achievable) and tommorow they'll have enough votes to vote themselves unilaterally.

I’m not one. Justice is still my best guess for puppet.

I’ve been saying all along that this is the best strategy. I am still the most sus on Agriculture for PM. So tell me what is the plan.

[Department of Health]

The reason I'm against voting Justice is that I don't tr them and it's not impossible for pm to pretend to be a puppet.

Well, I don’t know who else could be a puppet then. No one else seems any different to me.

[Department of Health]

I’m leaning to electing Tweets. I think they are either town or puppet, so I think that is the safest vote today.

[Department of Health]

VOTE: Department of Education
I'm obvtown. Don't vote anyone but me or the puppets + pm could hammer themselves.

How are you obvtown here? You blanket shaded me, didn’t suggest any alternative other than of course - you.

[Department of Health]

I’m leaning to electing Tweets. I think they are either town or puppet, so I think that is the safest vote today.

We shouldn't elect anyone who hasn't voted yet.

Kerest can you please edit the minster accounts to have a signature indicating their status in the gamestate or something?

Environment and me are the only ministers so far.

[Department of Health]

VOTE COUNT 2.4

With 7 players alive it takes 4 to elect.

Department of Health (3): Department of Health, Department of Tweets, Department of Culture,
Department of Agriculture (1): Department of Agriculture,
Department of Education (1): Department of Education,
Department of Justice (1): Department of Justice,
Department of Culture (0):
Department of Tweets (0):

Not voting (1): Department of Environment,

Deadline: (expired on 2021-07-31 18:00:00)

Tweets voted me early and I don’t see why PM would lie about me being a puppet. I think we elect Tweets, we either kill a puppet and skip to next day or ideally actually win the game because they will become final minister.

It’s win-win.

[Department of Health]

Okay so I want big green letters in your signature.

Read the mod, there’s only two of us. How difficult is that?

[Department of Health]

Health I like that idea I just want to generate more content today for what should be obvious reasons.

Sure.

My guess for PM is between Agriculture, Education and Culture because they voted me last second, when I was going through anyway.

Tweets voted me early, which is why they’re the safest vote. Remember puppets can still vote and manipulate us, so it’s a good idea to get rid of them and I don’t believe Tweets is never PM here, so if they haven’t been puppeted yet, we win but we can’t lose either way.

VOTE: Tweets

[Department of Health]

Ministers are even more important for hyperposting. We need ministers to hyper post with unconfirmed slots

If Tweets is puppet, we just skip night, so I can’t see how this is not the best vote.

[Department of Health]

I don’t believe Tweets is never PM here [...] we can’t lose...

What?

Ever not never. typo

I feel that Tweets has less PM equity than any of the remaining unconfirmed players in this game.

[Department of Health]

ngl health is sounding kinda different
but that's a thought for d3

I’m not a puppet. But in the assumption that we do, we actually have more to work with.

It stands to reason that puppet won’t post a lot because then we will be able to possibly figure out who’s PM because they’ve got both accounts.

thats what a puppet would say

puppet master has 2 votes today, be careful because there can be a ninjaing near EoD

did Justice just make a towny post?
legitimately, thanks for the reminder. I forgot about that

also yeah im down VOTE: Department of Health
if you somehow end up being puppetmaster gg

I personally believe that we should try to vote out a puppet today, because the worst case scenario is that the Puppet Master already has 2 puppets right now (Something which could be reasonably achievable) and tommorow they'll have enough votes to vote themselves unilaterally.

honestly it's unlikely they have two puppets. Id wager on just the one

Is there time to flash wagon me?

no

Department of Environment isn't a puppet, I'm not a puppet, I DO NOT like that it is so hard to get Department of Health elected.

[Department of Health]

Whomever here is town and self-voting, consider that with Tweets, we can either win right here, if they’re not a puppet and become final minister or we kill a puppet and skip to the next day.

What’s to prevent PM from using puppets to hijack the vote?

Which is why I’m the most sus on Agriculture and Education but I’m not thrilled that Culture waited until almost deadline to vote me.

But neither Agriculture or Education has given reads on anyone else and just blanket shaded me, so I’d vote you before either of them.

I still think Tweets is safest however.

[Department of Health]

I'm down but I want some tweets posts first

Yeah, that’s fine.

I’m getting leery of both Agriculture and Education insisting they’re so obvtown despite doing nothing that makes them particularly obvtown.

[Department of Health]

We get some tweets content -> vote tweets
If tweets got pupped (which I think is likely) we keep going hyper and just free win, but knowing who tweets is I would expect the slot to bam

I have no clue who Tweets could possibly be, I might possibly have some idea about Education and if I’m right and if they have any clue who I am, it probably worsens my read on them.

[Department of Health]

We get some tweets content -> vote tweets
If tweets got pupped (which I think is likely) we keep going hyper and just free win, but knowing who tweets is I would expect the slot to bam

Sadly, I think that too. I would probably have puppeted them if I were PM. But we will find that out once they’re flipped.

[Department of Health]

I'm not_mafia and I got puppeted. Vote me out to make sure that the PM doesn't have as many votes.

NM isn’t even in this game and PM would have your account if you’re a puppet. Stop treating us all like imbeciles here, kthanx.

[Department of Health]

Also we are in 2 conf - 1 pm - 2 puppets - 2 town, so please unvote tweets because I don't trust them

You don’t trust ANYONE. You blanket shaded me and only offered up yourself as an option. So no, I really don’t care if you don’t like Tweets.

[Department of Health]

What’s to prevent PM from using puppets to hijack the vote?

This is exactly why you shouldn't be voting tweets right now.

This makes absolutely no sense. PM obviously wouldn’t want puppet to get elected.

[Department of Health]

I'm obvtown because I am clearly not puppetting anyone.

You haven’t given a single tr to anyone but yourself, nothing even remotely obvtown about that.

[Department of Health]

To be clear, I am fine with voting for Tweets. I believe this was my original pool of three? I don't think they are the puppet master.

I'm still not a puppet and that should become evident as I post more.

I’m really starting to think it’s Education now. Agriculture still looks bad but they’ve been less active so idk.

There is no logical reason whatsoever for Education not to trust Tweets. At least Justice wants to wait for them to post first, which is reasonable.

Perhaps Education is PM and Agriculture was the N1 puppet?

I could see that since they almost got elected.

[Department of Health]

Here's the deal though. There is at least one puppet or puppet master in me/justice/culture, and there is one town if we aren't all puppets and puppet master. So what do people think about that?

You left out Agriculture and Tweets.

If you really didn’t trust Tweets, then why hold up my election?

[Department of Health]

I'm obvtown because I am clearly not puppetting anyone.

You haven’t given a single tr to anyone but yourself, nothing even remotely obvtown about that.

I mean I hammered environment so

Alright, you get points for that but nothing since then.

[Department of Health]

What’s to prevent PM from using puppets to hijack the vote?

This is exactly why you shouldn't be voting tweets right now.

This makes absolutely no sense. PM obviously wouldn’t want puppet to get elected.

I'm saying that if tweets was PM, and I haven't trusted tweets, that tweets could self-hammer with puppets. I actually realized though - tweets has had a vote on them, and by what I said earlier a group of three not confirmed has a puppet or PM (so the PM) so the PM has been on to self-hammer if tweets is the PM, so tweets isn't the PM.

VOTE: Tweets

Okay, starting to feel better about you now.

[Department of Health]

Those strings coming out of Department of Tweets look like they hurt.

VOTE: Department of Tweets

I told all of you on day 2 and Culture is probably the puppet master because Tweets was pushing for them to be voted.

Also I've been playing up a persona this game but I'm not a puppet or pm I'm still town.

Well, who do you think was puppeted N1?

[Department of Health]

VOTE COUNT 4,0

With 6 players alive it takes 4 to elect.

Department of Justice (0):
Department of Agriculture (0):
Department of Education (0):
Department of Culture (0):

Not voting (6): Department of Culture, Department of Environment, Department of Health, Department of Education, Department of Agriculture, Department of Justice,
Deadline: (expired on 2021-08-11 17:30:00)

So who is the last puppet? Was I right on Justice? I think PM is Culture, so the rest of us need to make sure they don’t get elected.

[Department of Health]

PM was clearly onboard with this. They didn’t even try to hide Tweets was puppet.

[Department of Health]

VOTE COUNT 3.2

With 7 players alive it takes 4 to elect.

Department of Tweets (4): Department of Health, Department of Education, Department of Agriculture, Department of Tweets,
Department of Justice (1): Department of Justice,
Department of Agriculture (0):
Department of Education (0):
Department of Culture (0):

Not voting (2): Department of Culture, Department of Environment,
Deadline: (expired on 2021-08-09 21:00:00)

My worry is that if Culture is PM, why did they have Tweets self-vote instead of trying to get towncred?

Like seriously, why would Culture PM have their puppet self-vote instead of themselves?

Okay, I’m starting to think it might be Education now and Agriculture is the puppet.

PM Culture had a perfect opportunity to vote Tweets for towncred but forgoed it to let their puppet do it instead?

I smell a Culture frame up here.

[Department of Health]

Those strings coming out of Department of Tweets look like they hurt.

VOTE: Department of Tweets

I told all of you on day 2 and Culture is probably the puppet master because Tweets was pushing for them to be voted.

Also I've been playing up a persona this game but I'm not a puppet or pm I'm still town.

I’m thinking Justice or Agriculture today. One is probably town, the other a puppet. Education is very clearly NOT a puppet.

[Department of Health]

VOTE: Department of Tweets

I don’t believe that Culture puppeted Tweets, because there’s 0 reason for Culture to not have voted Tweets. Real PM - probably Education - probably had Tweets self-hammer to make Culture look bad. b

I think Agriculture is likely puppet but not sure.

VOTE: Justice

Justice is for sure not PM. We either win with this or destroy last puppet.

[Department of Health]

Why does PM anonymously hammer this?

And anyway, if you’re so certain Culture is PM, then why not sheep me on Justice or Agriculture, because you’re very obviously not a puppet.

I obviously prefer Justice because we either win it right here or we kill another puppet.

[Department of Health]

You're arguing I was awake 15 hours ago (to complain no one hammered), 8 hours ago (for tweets to self hammer), 3 hours ago to self vote, and now. And I will keep posting if it proves that puppet!tweets and I have different posting schedules.

Okay, I just thought it strange that puppet self-hammered so easily.

[Department of Health]

Isn't it more likely that Disciple of Tweets was turned into a puppet on night 2 and not night 1?

VOTE: Disciple of Agriculture

Could agriculture be PM and Culture be their puppet?

Culture has never tried to get themselves elected, not even once.

So maybe Agriculture wants everyone to think Culture is PM, so we never vote them?

[Department of Health]

Isn't it more likely that Disciple of Tweets was turned into a puppet on night 2 and not night 1?

VOTE: Disciple of Agriculture

I don't know why Agriculture said Disciple.

A puppet could very possibly be a disciple/puppet of PM/cult leader. However you’re not doing too much to push them as PM.

and even less to try to get yourself elected.

[Department of Health]

VOTE COUNT 4,0

With 6 players alive it takes 4 to elect.

Department of Justice (0):
Department of Agriculture (0):
Department of Education (0):
Department of Culture (0):

Not voting (6): Department of Culture, Department of Environment, Department of Health, Department of Education, Department of Agriculture, Department of Justice,
Deadline: (expired on 2021-08-11 17:30:00)

UNVOTE:

Probably still voting Justice but don’t want to risk hammer yet.

[Department of Health]

@mod, I think Environment needs a prod

[Department of Health]

ministers please elect me so that you win and i can find out who is who

Wait, if you are town and not puppet, we win.

How do you not know this?

[Department of Health]

ministers please elect me so that you win and i can find out who is who

Wait, if you are town and not puppet, we win.

How do you not know this?

Disregard, I’m half out of it today. :/

[Department of Health]

I’m currently leaning to thinking Culture is not PM. I don’t believe that Tweets was puppeted N1. and I think the optimal stategy is for puppet to distance, with Tweets for sure because they put up no resistance to being elected. Culture is not even trying to get elected.

[Department of Health]

puppet master has 2 votes today, be careful because there can be a ninjaing near EoD

did Justice just make a towny post?
legitimately, thanks for the reminder. I forgot about that

also yeah im down VOTE: Department of Health
if you somehow end up being puppetmaster gg

Tweets was N2 puppet, so who was N1?

[Department of Health]

Health, Justice is confirmed town/puppet fmpov because if he was PM he would have self-hammered with a puppet there. And unless you think that I am a puppet, Justice is confirmed town/puppet to you. We should just get this election through and hopefully win. I'm very clearly not a puppet.

VOTE: DoJ

Justice can’t self-hammer, they’re already self-voting.

I don’t think puppet Tweets voted me Day 2, so remaining puppet was puppeted N1, who do you think that was?

[Department of Health]

puppet master has 2 votes today, be careful because there can be a ninjaing near EoD

did Justice just make a towny post?
legitimately, thanks for the reminder. I forgot about that

also yeah im down VOTE: Department of Health
if you somehow end up being puppetmaster gg

Tweets was N2 puppet, so who was N1?

Looking at game state where DOJ wasn't hammered but both were voting for them, I'd say it would have to be one of those two. Because puppet/PM wouldn't vote for town here

Who else was voting Justice?

[Department of Health]

Isn't it more likely that Disciple of Tweets was turned into a puppet on night 2 and not night 1?

VOTE: Disciple of Agriculture

Could agriculture be PM and Culture be their puppet?

Culture has never tried to get themselves elected, not even once.

So maybe Agriculture wants everyone to think Culture is PM, so we never vote them?

Why can't I be town in this scenario where Agriculture doesn't want people to vote me?

That’s possible, I want to figure out who was the N1 puppet. I think that’s the key to winning this.

[Department of Health]

Health, Justice is confirmed town/puppet fmpov because if he was PM he would have self-hammered with a puppet there. And unless you think that I am a puppet, Justice is confirmed town/puppet to you. We should just get this election through and hopefully win. I'm very clearly not a puppet.

VOTE: DoJ

Justice can’t self-hammer, they’re already self-voting.

I don’t think puppet Tweets voted me Day 2, so remaining puppet was puppeted N1, who do you think that was?

With a puppet. They were at e-1, you, me, and justice were on the wagon. Their puppet hammers them if they're PM.

Do you think they’re puppet or I’m assuming you think now it’s Culture?

[Department of Health]

apologies but my brain is fried rn, so I don’t want to vote until I can think more clearly

[Department of Health]

Those strings coming out of Department of Tweets look like they hurt.

VOTE: Department of Tweets

I told all of you on day 2 and Culture is probably the puppet master because Tweets was pushing for them to be voted.

Also I've been playing up a persona this game but I'm not a puppet or pm I'm still town.

So if we assume that Agriculture is PM and that Tweets was N2 puppet, then who makes the most sense as a hypothetical N1 Agriculture puppet?

Someone was puppeted N1 and I don’t believe it was Tweets.

[Department of Health]

OK

In my opinion Department of Justice has changed the way they postin between days 1 and 2, and everybody else feels like the same person. Did they ever explain why they went from voting agriculture to themself?

The reason I'm against voting Justice is that I don't tr them and it's not impossible for pm to pretend to be a puppet.

I think Justice is probably N1 puppet. Maybe that’s why they didn’t self-hammer? Imo, PM is fine with puppet being voted if they can’t be because they lose if we elect minister.

[Department of Health]

Why do we care to speculate when we could just find out if justice is a puppet by voting them?

Because it matters, because I could be wrong about that.

[Department of Health]

VOTE: Justice

My brain is functional today. lol

[Department of Health]

I'm rather bored of this game. There's not much I can make sense of here. My fellow formerly denounced Department of Heath, do you think I should vote for Justice?

If they were PM, they would have already been hammered, I think right - so Justice is either town or puppet. Because I don’t believe Education is a puppet, so I think one of Agriculture/Culture is likely PM and depending on whether or not game ends with Justice election or not determines if the other is town or puppet.

[Department of Health]

Kerest, how in depth of a treatise describing how PM is not working towards own wincon do I have to send to you to for you to just end the game as town win?

Kerset is the mod, you mean Agriculture don’t you?

[Department of Health]

Wtf happened? Why didn’t we elect Justice? Then next day Education for thie win? What were you people thinking? omfg!

[Department of Health]

Justice was converted between #429 #430. Hammering them earlier would mean town win.

I blame Environment. They should have hammered, it was so obvious Justice was town.

[Department of Health]

Environment all you had to do was vote justice errggg

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