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Post Post #43 (isolation #0) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:46 pm

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In post 30, TemporalLich wrote:I am of course assuming replacements are strictly NAI and in good faith for this system.
In my experience, replacements are strongly AI.

If you want to hone your scum game, hit up the replacement thread and chances are you're going to end up with a scum slot.

I believe that the situation has gotten much worse over the history of the site. I would say that about 60-70% of my personal replacements were scum slots recently.

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Why do players give up the moment they get a red role PM?

What can we do to fix it?
  • Allow one or more scum coaches who aren't playing the game to motivate scum players in the PT

  • Foster a culture of good sportsmanship where being scum means "giving the town a good game."
  • Do you prefer playing town? Remember that you owe your pleasure playing town to the scum team
    trying to win
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  • Townies should make it a tradition to thank the scum for a good game whether they won or lost.
  • Scum isn't "evil" they are the game's unsung heroes. Let's remove the "unsung" part.
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Post Post #44 (isolation #1) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:49 pm

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We can't stop replacements.

But we need to make replacements NAI again. Right now town could win games just by eliminating all replacements.
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Post Post #47 (isolation #2) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:36 pm

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5 - This would require fundamentally changing the language we define to use in Mafia to the point of changing the name of the game itself.

I meant this to apply in post-game, during the game scum are dastardly masterminds.

Culture change happens when people decide to model a new behavior and inspire others.
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Post Post #48 (isolation #3) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:38 pm

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In post 46, TemporalLich wrote:Clearly bad faith replacements should be reported to the list mods
How do you prove that someone got a red PM, stewed for a few days with lame posting, then noped out of playing scum?

You can't.

That's why we need to brand playing scum as noble and selfless.
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Post Post #49 (isolation #4) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:40 pm

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Maybe mods can use the first post of the scum PT to add a pep talk about how important scum are to the game, and they should play scum the way they want others to play scum when they are town.
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Post Post #57 (isolation #5) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:42 pm

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In post 51, TemporalLich wrote:Since you can't, you should assume good faith.
Right.

But statistically, bad faith replacements are a plague.
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Post Post #58 (isolation #6) » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:44 pm

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In post 28, Ythan wrote:I was actually considering the other direction, requiring multiple reps in to equal one rep out.
Interesting - how would you deal with alts?
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Post Post #106 (isolation #7) » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:37 am

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Well hello hello
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