Not Quite Normal Multiball (Game Over)

[Celestial Powerhouse]

limited time offer: whoever places the E-1 vote gets a pass for the rest of the day.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

(expired on 2021-07-21 20:30:00)

[Celestial Powerhouse]

but for real, I want the reveal before I go to bed. its 2:21 am here. Hurry up and hammer this shit

heh pooky gets it

UNVOTE: CheekyTeeky

fuck ok thats it. we're killing wolves today.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

vecna just had to stand up for a mafia brother.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I have reason to suspect that the circumstances of Echolocation's death were complicated. I can't actually figure out any more than that.

Anyway, new reads list:

Townread

:
- Whemestar (Definitely not a wolf. Check out Manatee's posts from 611 to 662, but particularly 624. 624 is straight-up just justifying picking on an easy target, and 684 seals it: it would be weird for Manatee to both bus a partner and lock herself out of being able to push Dann. Further, I went back over his ISO and he has his story straight about a seemingly-complicated role. He doesn't seem like he has a plan.)
- The Resistance (There's a thing that scum tends to do when they're engaging with me, and The Resistance is completely devoid of it. The hydra is coherently keeping track of my behavior and has useful comments on many posts.)

Townlean

:
- Lukewarm (Still a gut read, and also probably not a wolf, based on how he engaged thoughtfully with the Manatee incident. Could be mafia.)
- Kakeguri Addicts (basically the same as The Resistance, but does the thing that The Resistance doesn't. I'm keeping an eye on this slot, though.)
- Ythan (obviously not a Mafia member; otherwise he would have dropped the crusade against Dann. Could be a wolf, but idk)

Null

:
- Uncle Shelby (I'm honestly not seeing what makes this slot so scummy to others. There are some sheepy behaviors, but nothing that jumps out at me.)
- unwnd (Has become passive. I'm used to unwnd as a town leader. I don't know what this means.)

Wow such scum

:
- Pooky (look, I know Pooky doesn't post serious content, but he's been doing nothing for 100+ pages in a game where he is ostensibly

excited to finally be town for

. This ain't town, chief.)
- Dannflor (lol)

Anyone not on this list doesn't matter to me right now.

After we do that policy elimination (VOTE: Cheeky btw), can we please grill Pooky's slot if we're still not going after Dann? Thanks.

yes thank you I love you. VEcna GET UR VOTE BACK NOW

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Wow such scum:
- Pooky (look, I know Pooky doesn't post serious content, but he's been doing nothing for 100+ pages in a game where he is ostensibly excited to finally be town for. This ain't town, chief.)
- Dannflor (lol)

solid trolling 12/10

shhh pooky shhh

[Celestial Powerhouse]

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

[Celestial Powerhouse]

oh wait did I get the hammer?

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I think I did?

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I just want to say that I will be INCREDIBLY salty if I didn't get the hammer.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

no I did. Amateur

lol ur not counting ur votes.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

can we kill vecna next because vfp got replaced. also like vecna tried to steal my hammer and that is a huge crime right there. plus we all hear vecna's howling

[Celestial Powerhouse]

CheekyTeeky has been politely asked to leave. She was a...

Spoiler:

Mafia Diabolist (backup roleblocker)

Day continues.

votecount 2.I

CheekyTeeky (10) | Pooky, Dannflor, Lukewarm, unwnd, Kakeguri Addicts, mastina, petapan, Kazyan, Vecna, Celestial Powerhouse

Not Voting (9) | Everyone else

With 19 alive, it takes 10 to politely ask someone to leave.

HA I GOT THE HAMMER

[Celestial Powerhouse]

VOTE: VFP

Gogogogogo

Ok miller who shows up as malefactor <.<
Time to get back in character ahem hammer time over

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

lots of fake bravado

[Celestial Powerhouse]

What does backup role blocker mean? Does scum have another roleblocker?

morph just flipped role blocker.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

lots of fake bravado

I could have buried your slot d1, sit down.

Usdamned that's a strong opinion.

I don't think you will have, but, do share why you think you could have...

- Hades, on a trip to overthrow Olympus

[Celestial Powerhouse]

on one hand we have vecna-wolf sitting right there

on another hand we could always open mystery door #2 aka VFP

MINDMELD POOKY LETS GOOOOOOOO
VOTE: Vecna

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Also wolves taking a shot at Echolocation of all people sort of points towards them being totally cool with all reads Morph had. If there were wolves in there, why not fire in his buddy block to have any chance left

lol nice one. wolf representative here trying to uncover the hidden meaning behind a horrible shot
aaaaahhhhh what to do? we need to fix this no one is realizing that we're trying to say morph is wrong ahhhhhhhh

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I'm an anti-ww PR and im gonna target you tonight pooky

Well I'll be seeing you in the morning... as you join the Styx...

- Hades, Lord of laughing at would be Heroes.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Taco has all the desperate features of doomed scumboi

dont worry tho my cat gave us a kill list and you're not in the top 2

oh by cat you meant morph. oh. OH. lmfao I thought you meant an actual cat.
ahahaha
yeah morph was certain spiffeh then vfp. but i mean they were also certain on vecna soooooooo :3

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I'd like to find the last mafia member for reasons rather than look for wolf.

someone please catch me up on general discussio nbecause i barely read anything after yday was hammered

oof are you a werewolf too? i thought you were just scum. maybe i was wrongs.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

VOTE: VFP

This game is boring

Let’s spice it up and elim pooky

lmao no.

I'd like to find the last mafia member for reasons rather than look for wolf.

someone please catch me up on general discussio nbecause i barely read anything after yday was hammered

have you tried looking in the mirror ?

HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHA

I'd like to find the last mafia member for reasons rather than look for wolf.

someone please catch me up on general discussio nbecause i barely read anything after yday was hammered

have you tried looking in the mirror ?

lmao fuck off

aHAHAHAHHAAH

VECNa/TACO LAST TWO SCUM AFTER GOOFBALL EASIEST GAME OF MY LIFE

BAHHAAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHA OML
except Vecna is wolf.
taco is scum with goofball.
yeh

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I'm an anti-ww PR and im gonna target you tonight pooky

Well I'll be seeing you in the morning... as you join the Styx...

- Hades, Lord of laughing at would be Heroes.

Wtf is this supposed to mean?

You just claimed anti-wolf PR.

On what part of this cosmos do you expect to stil be alive tomorrow when the mason died last night?

Your bravado will be your downfall, and whatever you do tonight, you won't survive until the morning to see the results of.

-Hades, cracked up with laughter.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

pooky is like prob wolf and i wanna see them nightkill me

lmao. aint no one here gonna nk you except you might wanna watch out. the wolves are big on wifom this game!

my cat is never wrong dannflor dont be ridiculous

^^^^^^^

i can only think people are pushing pooky right now because they desperately need not-scum eliminations

mhm.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

what pisses me off is some of yall are just openwolfing with your scumreads on me and some of you are just being shitty surface level readers and i can' tell the difference because none of you will fucking ellaborate on your read

Oh sweetie, the amount of time me and my brothers have tried to kill each other... We just be open about it.
Also, which head are you asking for a read from?

[Celestial Powerhouse]

im going to full claim if people dont knock this shit off.

and yall will regret that bc i am a particularly useful anti ww role with majority ww left.

Oh no, please, don't claim...

...

I cant find a worried gif...

-hades, Incredibly worried about Tacos.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

No I'm just town and I'm not satisfied with these events even if they're good for me

i mean i know you want the baddies to put up a fight but sometimes the dice just dont roll that way

no point in dragging things out

a mercy killing is the best way to end it

ugh but pooky I dont want to be night killed yettttttt

why am I scum?

cuz if you were town you would be laughing like a madman and joining us on this joyride of death and destruction

instead you're like



basically a scumbag who just logged in and found their whole team dead without even getting to talk lolol

TOWN POOKY TURBO CONFOFOTOWN

Should we just speed vote Taco instead?

^this

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

im going to full claim if people dont knock this shit off.

Go ahead

VOTE: Kakeguri

-Hades, actually in pain from laughing so hard.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

im going to full claim if people dont knock this shit off.

and yall will regret that bc i am a particularly useful anti ww role with majority ww left.

lol claim.

why am i scum celestial?

bc ur role pm isnt greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen. you're flailing right now. you're like the Merriam Webster definition of flailing in real time.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

ok Taco, you want the beef, here's the beef.

You're defending against a scum accusation, by immediately claiming a powerful Anti-WW PR in a game where WW are the majority faction.
Quite simply if your claim is true, you die tonight.

You are self-resolving at this point.

-Hades, Lord of the BBQ.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

@Taco, you jumping on the Lukewarm v Noraa 1v1 was pretty gross, not gonna lie.

I am obvTown

Spoiler:

Yeah, yeah, omgus

But like for real, you jumped on with an empty vote, seemed scummy. I asked you about it directly, and never got a response

mhm. lukewarm and me are besties and we both are town.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

In my opinion, the guy who gets upset after scum eliminations and scum being boxed in is more often than not scum themselves, no matter how they try to dress it up.

Mary says Taco is about rand for being scum - I think it's a bit more likely than that. We've noted their soft claim.

Sweetie if that's a soft claim to you, I'd hate to see you react to a full claim. <3

- Hades, Lord of never claiming.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I am not upset at the scum flips stop making shit up

dont worry you'll get vigged soon enough and put out of your misery pooky promised me that.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I came in and saw people speed voting, I hate rushing as town.

Its fucking simple.

We have two eliminations and a confirmed scum, in the same timeframe as a normal day.

Still have beef?

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I came in and saw people speed voting, I hate rushing as town.

Its fucking simple.

We have two eliminations and a confirmed scum, in the same timeframe as a normal day.

Still have beef?

-hades

[Celestial Powerhouse]

you're being incredibly uncharitable towards me celestial, why is that?

Specify which head. It helps.

-Hades, Lord of facepalmheaddesk

[Celestial Powerhouse]

if vig shoots me they are making the worst vig play of all time, bar the one time i saw a vig shoot an uncc cop

Where does a vig even come into this?

You're getting shredded like BBQ Pork.

-Hades, Lord of the BBQ. (Yes I already used that one, no I don't care.)

[Celestial Powerhouse]

whatever i'm tilted because i can't form my own reads properly in a gamestate like this

You had all night...
And, like, it was an extended night because of the replacements

some answers to any questions I may receive:

Will I be reading what happened on pages 1-13? - Probably not.

Will I do so if you ask me? - Probably not.

Hope that makes stuff clear.

also why do you think I'm scum?

OK so you're literally confirming you are not reading the game.

Cool, so you're going to have to snapread people.

Give me a high 5? That is, your top 5 town?

- Hades, Lord of the Scoreboard.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

@celestial stop playing around my question. why am I scum? and why are you displaying an incredible amount of uncharitableness to the point where any response I make you are framing as scummy?

WHICH
HEAD
ARE
YOU
ADDRESSING.

I
AM
HADES.

POSEIDON
IS
HERE
TOO.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

maybe the taco is the malefactor

would explain why they seem to want to eat an elim so badly lol

nah you think that miller who comes up as malefactor is a thing? wheme is the malefactor.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

VOTE: DGB

Vig taco or vecna.
Doc me.
Role block Anya or something like that.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I'm not answering shit from you until you answer me first, celestial, you trying to now fish for reasons to say you scumread me now?

We are a (supposedly anon) hydra.
We are 3 players on 1 account.

We are Zeus, Poseidon, and the best of the 3, Hades.

-Hades.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

noraa isnt even in this game

heh

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

what the fuck is malefactor

You really arent reading are you...

-Hades

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I'm not answering shit from you until you answer me first, celestial, you trying to now fish for reasons to say you scumread me now?

We are a (supposedly anon) hydra.
We are 3 players on 1 account.

We are Zeus, Poseidon, and the best of the 3, Hades.

-Hades.

you are being obtuse on purpose.

not bothering with you anymore.

vote me or screw off with your shade.

Do you even know what a hydra is?

-Hades, Lord of done with this entity.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Taco, I just want to say but scum reading everyone isnt going to work out very well regardless of your alignment >.>

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

look if you want to talk reads or whatever just do it

but don't expect people to feed you content in real time because there's fucking 125 pages of game content already that you chose to skip out on

like... asking me about an unwnd town read that I have elaborated on several times through D1 is exhausting, just click my iso or something

i make my reads best when I interact in real time/at least if I'm staying on top of the game, something I've been unable to really do.

I get its exhausting but sometimes things change and sometimes someone can be like "hm ok that acutally doesnt make sense anymore now" etc.

i get it isnt the most useful for everyone but its what works for me personally to get a good grasp of the gamestate

SO give us your reads, Zeus may be able to zap you, but I will fry your ass.

-Hades, about to blow his lid.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

UNVOTE:

honestly down to flash wagon taco here. dgb can honestly wait a day. the scum reads on VFP aren't gonna just disappear like poofity poof.

then again, taco's gonna die tomorrow anyways so ig it really doesn't matter

VOTE: DGB

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

one of yous being annoying towards me is 100% scum and the people who refuse to give complexity to their read on me are defaulted to my PoE unless there are other reasons to holistically townread you

My read on you right now, is you're being deliberately evasive and unhelpful, kicking up nothing but dirt trying to derail scum wagons.

I've tried talking to you, and I'm just about reaching my limit.

-Hades.

Pedit: Taco's a waste of a vote, and effort at this point.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

you're being incredibly uncharitable towards me celestial, why is that?

^^^^

I wasn't then, and now, because you have not earned my charity.

- Hades.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

lets take a look at the scenario:

if im mafia:
I claimed an anti-WW pr. I basically committed suicide. There is no doubt WW would want to target me here regardless of if they think I'm mafia or town. Unless you think more BP mafia exist.

if im wolf:
I pushed manatee extremely early and then instead of shoving through dann/t3 slot I vanity vote and refuse the cred of bussing completely because I had an early vote

if im malefactor:
bro i deadass didnt know what it was until like 15 minutes ago when it was pointed out - dont care if you dont believe me but i deffo slipped im not


that should make it easy to occam's razor me out of being scumread by anyone who isn't being uncharitable.

This is why i say you're self-resolving, a waste of a vote, and a waste of a vig shot.
If you live tonight, then you're a liar.
-hades

[Celestial Powerhouse]

When I mean charitable, I mean being fair/holistic in how you are reading me. In terms of how you are interpreting my words/actions vs how you might treat someone else doing the same.

I treated you exactly as I would treat anyone else.

I gave you a line, a chance for the Fates to be blind to you.


You spat in my tea.
I owe you nothing.
-Hades, Lord of boom.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

lets take a look at the scenario:

if im mafia:
I claimed an anti-WW pr. I basically committed suicide. There is no doubt WW would want to target me here regardless of if they think I'm mafia or town. Unless you think more BP mafia exist.

if im wolf:
I pushed manatee extremely early and then instead of shoving through dann/t3 slot I vanity vote and refuse the cred of bussing completely because I had an early vote

if im malefactor:
bro i deadass didnt know what it was until like 15 minutes ago when it was pointed out - dont care if you dont believe me but i deffo slipped im not


that should make it easy to occam's razor me out of being scumread by anyone who isn't being uncharitable.

no. no one will be night killing you regardless of your alignment because literally everyone knows you'll just die tomorrow during the day phase.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I’m not malefactor wtf I’m obv town celestial

not really...
but it really doesn't matter I guess. if you are malefactor, then we just kill all the scum and you watch with teary eyes. if you are actually town, cool yay lets celebrate.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Stop looking for fights Taco, and maybe be nice.

-Hades, Lord of apparently still trying to communicate.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

lets take a look at the scenario:

if im mafia:
I claimed an anti-WW pr. I basically committed suicide. There is no doubt WW would want to target me here regardless of if they think I'm mafia or town. Unless you think more BP mafia exist.

if im wolf:
I pushed manatee extremely early and then instead of shoving through dann/t3 slot I vanity vote and refuse the cred of bussing completely because I had an early vote

if im malefactor:
bro i deadass didnt know what it was until like 15 minutes ago when it was pointed out - dont care if you dont believe me but i deffo slipped im not


that should make it easy to occam's razor me out of being scumread by anyone who isn't being uncharitable.

no. no one will be night killing you regardless of your alignment because literally everyone knows you'll just die tomorrow during the day phase.

-Mister Ocean

Why would that happen?

You have painted yourself an obvious nightkill, and given your claim you cannot be allowed to live beyond tomorrow because WIFOM.
You've also caused enough Ruckus even Charon doesn't wait to be paid to take you across the Styx - hes willing to take you for free because us-damn it you need to take a break.

-Hades.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

And this is Hades signing off for the night and praying to the Titans I don't wake up to another 50 pages.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

i would like to request we don't speedgame the day so people have a chance to process things and we can talk. even if we're on the right track, rushing just leads to an information deficit which is harmful in the long term if one or two of the scum are harder to find

some ppl really don't understand this lmao


especially feel this bc of all the confidence being thrown around at my slot being scum despite evidence pointing away from that

Last piece of advice, make sure your boots fit and they're tightly laced. Otherwise you're going to trip and fall flat on your face.

-Hades, sleepy god of rest.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

lets take a look at the scenario:

if im mafia:
I claimed an anti-WW pr. I basically committed suicide. There is no doubt WW would want to target me here regardless of if they think I'm mafia or town. Unless you think more BP mafia exist.

if im wolf:
I pushed manatee extremely early and then instead of shoving through dann/t3 slot I vanity vote and refuse the cred of bussing completely because I had an early vote

if im malefactor:
bro i deadass didnt know what it was until like 15 minutes ago when it was pointed out - dont care if you dont believe me but i deffo slipped im not


that should make it easy to occam's razor me out of being scumread by anyone who isn't being uncharitable.

no. no one will be night killing you regardless of your alignment because literally everyone knows you'll just die tomorrow during the day phase.

-Mister Ocean

Why would that happen?

You have painted yourself an obvious nightkill, and given your claim you cannot be allowed to live beyond tomorrow because WIFOM.
You've also caused enough Ruckus even Charon doesn't wait to be paid to take you across the Styx - hes willing to take you for free because us-damn it you need to take a break.

-Hades.

your logic has such blatant holes in it.

Tell me: If you are WW, and you saw me claim an anti-ww PR, what would you do?

I'd leave you for town, your credibility is shot.

-Hades, apparently not sleeping.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

hades go sleep. ignore the howling!

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

like your reasoning updates itself based on what new thing I'm saying - there is no holistic reasoning at all from you. It's all about some minute detail about my play combined with a shitty assumption about what happens.

I don't think your thought process is complex at all, Hades and it shows.

My reasoning is consistent, taco poop.

As is Poseidons reasoning.

You are reading as one player, when we're seperate heads.

-Hades.

hades go sleep. ignore the howling!

-Mister Ocean

Have you heard a 3 headed dog howl? yeesh...

[Celestial Powerhouse]

like your reasoning updates itself based on what new thing I'm saying - there is no holistic reasoning at all from you. It's all about some minute detail about my play combined with a shitty assumption about what happens.

I don't think your thought process is complex at all, Hades and it shows.

Oh, and you haven't seen my thought process, because only my brothers, Zeus and Poseidon have seen it.

My thought process on you, is "Ok this one snap reads. Not deep reads. Lets see what the top tier is right now."
What I get, is punched right in the pomegrantes and told to be better.

I don't think you're a wolf. I just think you're blind.

oh yeah btw imma soft that i know why setup design wise morph was a roleblocker - i'll say that much more about my role.

This is not a soft, and this is frankly bullshit anyone can claim.

So you're either blind or something which means I'm not being very nice.

-Hades.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

like your reasoning updates itself based on what new thing I'm saying - there is no holistic reasoning at all from you. It's all about some minute detail about my play combined with a shitty assumption about what happens.

I don't think your thought process is complex at all, Hades and it shows.

My reasoning is consistent, taco poop.

As is Poseidons reasoning.

You are reading as one player, when we're seperate heads.

-Hades.

hades go sleep. ignore the howling!

-Mister Ocean

Have you heard a 3 headed dog howl? yeesh...

I read your slot as a unit. You share the same role PM.

I don't care about individual reads. I care about how you as a unit are reading the game and such. You keep bringing up that you are a hydra as a copout to dodge culpability for what your slot says and its NAGL.

We are 3 heads with different reads, I cannot answer for Zeus or Poseidon, they cannot answer for me.
You are applying my responses to Poseidons claim.

No wonder you've tied yourself in a knot.

yes, we're one slot. We're not 1 mind.

-hades, lord of ye us why is it still so damn warm at 3am

[Celestial Powerhouse]

WHY IS IT FUCKJING BULLSHIT

fuckign EXPLAIN YOUR SHIT

im getting tired and i'm gonna fucking thunderdome you in a second if you dont knock it off

zeus is our brother~

but also can I just soft that I also know why morph is role blocker. what does that mean honestly. I dont think there's a way to know unless you are informed and even then, that doesn't confirm your alignment. no one role can *confirm* that another exists.

Hades, hades, look into my starry blue eyes. I love youuu <3 take a hug and sleep please! *huuuuug*

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

WHY IS IT FUCKJING BULLSHIT

fuckign EXPLAIN YOUR SHIT

im getting tired and i'm gonna fucking thunderdome you in a second if you dont knock it off

Oh, oh no! please don't thunder dome me! I don't think I would be able to stop myself knocking you clean of your horse.

You are claiming information which cannot be proven. You are claiming to have had pre-existing knowledge of what is now public knowledge. You have claimed a powerful anti-wolf PR.

You are claiming yourself into a knot.

You, do not scare me.

You, need to shut up, sit down, and think for a moment.

-Hades. About the ask the Furies to join him.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Hades, go to sleep. Persephone is worried about you.

^ kazyan knows what's up!

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

We had a lim in less than four hours? Did someone get a guilty?
~Ircher

nope but it was morph's dying wish so it had to happen.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Hades, go to sleep. Persephone is worried about you.

Persephone is with Demeter, she is forbidden to see me until September.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Okay and why does DGB have so many votes right now?
~Ircher

morph's other dying wish. we have a bunch of those

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

We had a lim in less than four hours? Did someone get a guilty?
~Ircher

Spiffeh slot, and it flipped red.
Similar deal with the DGB slot, formerly VFP.

I'm not entirely sold on this one but I trust my brothers.
-Hades

[Celestial Powerhouse]

VOTE: anya
after some thought I'm gonna dump vote here. goodnight.

i think this is the first person that taco has voted this isnt blatantly town and also probably not town.
anya is a great vig target. vigs take notes now.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

UNVOTE:

stop please don't end the day before zeus gets here.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Morph argued that ManateeDude had low engagement in their masonry

Was this a masonry or a neighborhood?

masonry. both flipped masons.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

we have a huge post that we are typing up and won't finish tonight. if anyone hammers ANY WAGON before our post is done, that is an AUTOMATIC scum claim.

because we claim

THIRD MASON

and that means that we are the only parts of cabd and ffery left in this game, probably dying tonight, and about to give morphs final orders + our own peasantly thoughts.

there will be zero hammering before our post is done otherwise the hammerer gets flashwagoned tomorrow.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

*distant rumbling noises*

*noises gets louder*

*rain pours down hard*

GUESS WHO IS BACK

ALSO, NEVER LEAVE A JOB UNDONE LITTLE BROTHER HAVE I NOT TAUGHT YOU ANYTHING

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Taking a quick swim too FIND MY LITTLE BROTHER

buuttt... That was his project so ill let him finish that up.

Meanwhile!

Here's what's swimming around in my little head.

I think DBG is doing a good job in turning their slot around, and I'm currently sitting on one of hestias perfect little hedges as i contemplate taco here.

The slots that all catch my interest is as follows!

Mastina
Taco
VFP/DBG
Ythan
Vax
Anya
Shelby
Vecna

And theres the obvious malefactor that is wheme so we can conveniently just ignore that.

We will talk about who we DO NOT TOUCH

shortly.
PLEASE HOLD

PEDIT:

HAH

thats a funny if I have ever seen one!

[Celestial Powerhouse]

IN OTHERWORDS

Wolves and mafia cannot joint win but the malefactor wins when one of the two factions become majority

[Celestial Powerhouse]

well it wasnt 50, but 17 is still more than I'm willing to read.

-Hades, god of "Sum it up for me?"

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Nice. The only reasonable thing to do now is to wait on any counterclaims.

lmfao. any counterclaim is a straight up scum claim. there will be no counterclaims dont you fucking worry.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

We claim

THIRD MASON

.

If anyone has the guts to counterclaim this, go ahead lmao.

first things first, both heads(of morph) were convinced echo was scum and i didnt believe them at all until the flip today. so, i just wanted to say kudos to them for that read honestly.

im going to try to replicate their reads lists .... bear with me im not as good at this thing.

confofotown

Celestial Powerhouse

we are 100% town here and conftown af since if morph was in the pt with two wolves, they would've both figured it out asap. they'd be like holy shit this pt howling but morph didn't reveal us to the game because they townread us really really hard. ffery scum read us at first but we talked things out and she was like yeh you guys are town. during the night, they told us a shit shit shit ton of things and I guarantee that if we were werewolf, they would've caught us before then

towny town

first off,

pooky

is the most obvious town i've ever seen in this entire universe. i've never seen pooky happier or more playful. i would bet my life on pooky being town here. seriously. dont anyone dare lay a finger on my bear.

lukewarm

was ffery's strongest townread and you know what, im fine with giving him a townpass for the rest of the game. ffery is apparently very obsessed with him and i trust her read there plus i also townread lukewarm. i dont agree with everything he says but i do townread him.

kakeguri addicts

' less active head is maria r according to morph. i find the active head scummy but i do believe in their ability to sort maria so i give this a hard townread and a safety pass for the rest of the game.

unwnd

was a hard townread from them. I sort of agree. like I'd put unwnd as a TR just because they seem towny but maybe not at the very top. idk probably town anyways but I just have paranoia on them.

probably town

ffery thinks

ythan

is scum or tunneled town. i lean the latter and I believe cabd does as well. he just reads so so innocent here that I think he is town. I dont like his positioning around dann but I understand town get tunneled at times

petapan

is a town lean from both heads and enough that ffery told us how to make him think she was speaking to him. my own read on peta is that him starting off with wrong reads is a good sign that they are natural. his shift into better reads didn't feel as natural but I truly dont feel the manipulation that I felt last time I played with him. his activity in general is lower but I agree with this townread.

the resistance

was in the category above for cabd but i think they belong in this category instead. cabd said that the moonlogic was towny and very Titus-y whereas I find Titus really scummy. so I'm going to put them here but mention that I dont townread them. I would not lim them over the people on the bottom but if those are all dead, this is where I'd look. my partners also hard townread them btw.

----------------------------------------------------------- under this line is where I think there might be scum if there are any in this section

Uncle Shelby

was a high town lean for them. I think he shows a bunch of surface level town tells and am willing to give him a town pass unless I feel otherwise.

dannflor

's walls are so sexy. I think he might be scum but I think he's probably just town here. his thought process is fairly natural. I would call him a paranoia scum read if need be and we run out of confoscums to elim.

kazyan

meh. i could totally see this being scum honestly but morph has them here so I'll leave them for now.

null

Vaxkiller

i dont read any way in any universe. morph had a town lean on his like ten posts so I would still say, leave them until all the obvious scum are gone. if there's still scum left and vax isnt cleared yet, kill him. good place for investigatives

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ we have entered the kill zone. before killing ALL MEMBERS of the kill zone, the above shouldn't be touched unless someone from the kill zone is cleared. vigs should also explicitly shoot in the below pool.

scum

VFP/DGB.

I never understood the scum reads on this slot but im just assuming its correct tbh. I dont read vfp or dgb either way but morph was

really

confident on this read so it's probably right. :/ DGB's reads are pretty bad and thats really all I have to go off of here.

Taco

is scum for ................ pretty obvious reasons lmao. morph says he could be on either team but definitely isnt town and I didnt agree yesterday but after the ridiculous game of "lets vote a different towny person every minute for ten minutes straight", I totally agree

werewolf

vecna

was their strongest wolf read(cabd said that vecna was 100% werewolf thats how certain he was). cabd has a point about manatee defending vecna awkwardly though i dont totally buy that point by itself. apart from that, the way vecna said the wolf kill on echo meant that morph's reads were wrong was soooooo far fetched and felt like wolf being upset people didnt understand all the wifom they attempted to put into the night kill. that post really rubbed me the wrong way and i think morph is just correct that vecna is wolf here. 2893 is also really really really really really really bad. like actually that post alone might as well be a werewolf claim. in the context especially, it was the most tmi way to throw shade at us because ONLY the wolves know we are third mason.

Anya

felt like she was bus posting when manatee died. morph and I mind meld on that post so anya is here though morph put her in the section called 3rd party/generic SRs

they thought that

mastina

might be werewolf. im not sure i buy this read to be honest and ffery later says that the read softened a little bit for her. i kind of fluctuate between hard scumread and townread massy like i typically do. it's fun but i dont know how to read her honestly. this is one of the last in this bottom section to kill because morph ended up softening that read after a reread.

malefactor

morph thinks

wheme

is malefactor and i agree with it. miller that shows up as malefactor is pretty damn convenient and theres not really a point in it. its too specific to be a joke also. we originally SRed wheme but him being malefactor makes sense since he does seem uninformed and doesnt fit all that well into either team(scum or wolf) essentially cabd just told us : kill all the scum and wolves and let wheme cry in the corner.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

cabd and ffery if you guys are reading, I hope im doing a good job :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I've never been a mason before >.<
super exciting stuff I must say. sad thing was I had to butcher all my reads in the pt because manatee was there

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

and now cabd and ffery are dead so now its just us

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

So the kill order should look something like

DGB > Vecna > Taco > Anya > Mastina

kill these five and it should be game over or close to game over.
in case that doesn't make sense : kill DGB first. then vecna. then taco. then anya. then massy.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

oh no morph was not vocal about the echo read.
maybe you didn't read their posts because they definitely had a full reads list.
either way, Im basing this off of their posts last night in the mason pt which your faction no longer has access to ... @_@

yeah but it totally still sounds tmi af. morph specifically says the third member is 100% town and we're SRing you just before the post and you say "oh morph might be wrong on the third member. thats just such a specific and scummy thing to say there.

im not even tunneling you honestly. im fine with that reason being wrong. I dont even think ur wolf because of that anyways. morph just caught something smaller that I never caught but you've been howling out in broad daylight since then so my reasons are my own and correct also.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

^to vecna

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I am not sure on DGB. I got them wrong in elo yesterday. I am willing to lim it based on slot history but I'd be hesitant on it. Basically, I'd vote there for town cohesion/day end. DGB has slightly improved the slot.

Vecna I feel is town, but his posting has fell off lately. Maybe he was trying to pocket me. There are better eliminations.

Taco I'd feel better about.

Anya is my favorite on the list.

~Titus

oh boy.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

i will repeat for the nth time i don't think vecna is a wolf and that read from manatee is anti-partnery, if anything. i think his posts have been ~fine, wouldn't say townclearing, could be the game's one tryhard scum but don't feel like it's sound ~process~ to to go deepwolf hunting here

i will kind of sort of catch up in a halfassed way now that things are not out of control

ok lets say vecna is scum. we still kill it anyways!
either way vecna isnt town here and thats for sure. i lean wolf but even if scum, thats fine honestly.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Ocean, let's talk until the bench calls my case.

mommaaaa bear what do you wanna talk about :O

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

We claim

THIRD MASON

.

If anyone has the guts to counterclaim this, go ahead lmao.

first things first, both heads(of morph) were convinced echo was scum and i didnt believe them at all until the flip today. so, i just wanted to say kudos to them for that read honestly.

im going to try to replicate their reads lists .... bear with me im not as good at this thing.

confofotown

Celestial Powerhouse

we are 100% town here and conftown af since if morph was in the pt with two wolves, they would've both figured it out asap. they'd be like holy shit this pt howling but morph didn't reveal us to the game because they townread us really really hard. ffery scum read us at first but we talked things out and she was like yeh you guys are town. during the night, they told us a shit shit shit ton of things and I guarantee that if we were werewolf, they would've caught us before then

towny town

first off,

pooky

is the most obvious town i've ever seen in this entire universe. i've never seen pooky happier or more playful. i would bet my life on pooky being town here. seriously. dont anyone dare lay a finger on my bear.

lukewarm

was ffery's strongest townread and you know what, im fine with giving him a townpass for the rest of the game. ffery is apparently very obsessed with him and i trust her read there plus i also townread lukewarm. i dont agree with everything he says but i do townread him.

kakeguri addicts

' less active head is maria r according to morph. i find the active head scummy but i do believe in their ability to sort maria so i give this a hard townread and a safety pass for the rest of the game.

unwnd

was a hard townread from them. I sort of agree. like I'd put unwnd as a TR just because they seem towny but maybe not at the very top. idk probably town anyways but I just have paranoia on them.

probably town

ffery thinks

ythan

is scum or tunneled town. i lean the latter and I believe cabd does as well. he just reads so so innocent here that I think he is town. I dont like his positioning around dann but I understand town get tunneled at times

petapan

is a town lean from both heads and enough that ffery told us how to make him think she was speaking to him. my own read on peta is that him starting off with wrong reads is a good sign that they are natural. his shift into better reads didn't feel as natural but I truly dont feel the manipulation that I felt last time I played with him. his activity in general is lower but I agree with this townread.

the resistance

was in the category above for cabd but i think they belong in this category instead. cabd said that the moonlogic was towny and very Titus-y whereas I find Titus really scummy. so I'm going to put them here but mention that I dont townread them. I would not lim them over the people on the bottom but if those are all dead, this is where I'd look. my partners also hard townread them btw.

----------------------------------------------------------- under this line is where I think there might be scum if there are any in this section

Uncle Shelby

was a high town lean for them. I think he shows a bunch of surface level town tells and am willing to give him a town pass unless I feel otherwise.

dannflor

's walls are so sexy. I think he might be scum but I think he's probably just town here. his thought process is fairly natural. I would call him a paranoia scum read if need be and we run out of confoscums to elim.

kazyan

meh. i could totally see this being scum honestly but morph has them here so I'll leave them for now.

null

Vaxkiller

i dont read any way in any universe. morph had a town lean on his like ten posts so I would still say, leave them until all the obvious scum are gone. if there's still scum left and vax isnt cleared yet, kill him. good place for investigatives

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ we have entered the kill zone. before killing ALL MEMBERS of the kill zone, the above shouldn't be touched unless someone from the kill zone is cleared. vigs should also explicitly shoot in the below pool.

scum

VFP/DGB.

I never understood the scum reads on this slot but im just assuming its correct tbh. I dont read vfp or dgb either way but morph was

really

confident on this read so it's probably right. :/ DGB's reads are pretty bad and thats really all I have to go off of here.

Taco

is scum for ................ pretty obvious reasons lmao. morph says he could be on either team but definitely isnt town and I didnt agree yesterday but after the ridiculous game of "lets vote a different towny person every minute for ten minutes straight", I totally agree

werewolf

vecna

was their strongest wolf read(cabd said that vecna was 100% werewolf thats how certain he was). cabd has a point about manatee defending vecna awkwardly though i dont totally buy that point by itself. apart from that, the way vecna said the wolf kill on echo meant that morph's reads were wrong was soooooo far fetched and felt like wolf being upset people didnt understand all the wifom they attempted to put into the night kill. that post really rubbed me the wrong way and i think morph is just correct that vecna is wolf here. 2893 is also really really really really really really bad. like actually that post alone might as well be a werewolf claim. in the context especially, it was the most tmi way to throw shade at us because ONLY the wolves know we are third mason.

Anya

felt like she was bus posting when manatee died. morph and I mind meld on that post so anya is here though morph put her in the section called 3rd party/generic SRs

they thought that

mastina

might be werewolf. im not sure i buy this read to be honest and ffery later says that the read softened a little bit for her. i kind of fluctuate between hard scumread and townread massy like i typically do. it's fun but i dont know how to read her honestly. this is one of the last in this bottom section to kill because morph ended up softening that read after a reread.

malefactor

morph thinks

wheme

is malefactor and i agree with it. miller that shows up as malefactor is pretty damn convenient and theres not really a point in it. its too specific to be a joke also. we originally SRed wheme but him being malefactor makes sense since he does seem uninformed and doesnt fit all that well into either team(scum or wolf) essentially cabd just told us : kill all the scum and wolves and let wheme cry in the corner.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

reposting for page top

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I get why you feel that was over that comment in 283 or w/e the post number was, but youre also biased since it concerned you. If I had actually known that you were the third slot, there was no way I make that statement as any alignment.

Regardless, you do you I guess. Id reckon ill have a little time left to change your mind, so plenty that can still happen.

no I think it was exactly because you knew we were the third slot that you said that. it is such a specific statement and at such a bad time. I think it was purposeful and no im not being biased here. I think most of your posts have been pretty scummy. pooky and me were hearing the howling together earlier.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Ocean, let's talk until the bench calls my case.

mommaaaa bear what do you wanna talk about :O

-Mister Ocean

Aww... if you weren't obvtown, I'd be pocketed. Our reads widely disagree with yours atm but we were both largely right on the flips so far. I'd like a deeper comment than oh boy.

mommmmmma bearrrr I just dont agree with your reads. I dont know what else to say tbh
so ig first off, we need you to compromise on dgb here because that was morph's dying wish and as their faithful brothers, we must make it happen.
aside from that, i think my reads list is more correct than yours. I can maybe see anya or taco not being scum but vecna isnt someone I will ever townread and dgb dying is morphs dying wish.
taco is probably still flailing scum literally no matter what. like I know town get desperate and get all suicidal but like that isnt what it looks like. I could be wrong but it all felt pretty fake to me and the main thing was that they seemed happy(vibes) afterwards which definitely felt like he was trying to pull the LLD thing in Yggdrasil.
anya is literally the only person I see maybe being town and thats literally because I can't even remember when the last time they posted was or what they said.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I'm stealing pookys gif

-Msiter Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

@Ocean, I am willing to compromise on DGB. Just know if it's wrong, you can expect me to fight you to get Shelby or Ythan eliminated. I strongly think Shelby is malefactor or scum with Manatee. I think Ythan's push on Dannflor was bad too.

you can do that but i think not before vecna is dead. if you really want to save taco and anya, i doubt you can save taco but anya could be saved for a little longer. im not opposed to killing shelby a little earlier but ythan I will FIGHT you on.

I'm a little lost because I have some unpopular reads (Pooky is scum, Dann is scum, and unwnd is ???), but Celestial's scum categories in the wall are good. I'm okay with killing the first three names on that list (DGB, Taco, Vecna), with a soft preference for throwing Taco off the cliff first.

Kazyan is so cuuuuuuuuuute. I see why morph TRed them now. shit morphs reads are too good for this world. holy fucks.

You guys didn’t want to speed lynch and now the wagon is gone and people will focus elsewhere

I’m sorry morph I’m trying to make you proud of this town

Dude we unvoted in order to get morph's last will and testament

yeah and dont put ur votes back until all our heads have inputted a little more. we still have yet to discuss if we want claims from a couple people. we might be able to set up the rest of the game before we get night killed tonight.
also we know who morph role blocked.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Because I haven't been paying attention to Anya and only recently became aware that mastina existed, so I don't know about them. But Taco has been on the verge of ragequit ever since two Mafia members died back-to-back, so...

couldn't have said it better~

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Taco Hemingway - don't think they play this way as scum still!
Vecna - still seems fine, think wolfreads based on manatee
mastina - reads are bad enough to be town


Anya - 352/716 easily could be w/w with manatee, dont have a ton beyond that
Vaxkiller - might be lazy town but kind of hard to defend at this point
PookyTheMagicalBear - meh, havent felt like hes been making real reads but also would have had to have been bussing excessively, that bulletproof comment about ydrasse feels like the sort of openwolf shit hed pull though
Kakeguri Addicts - for whatever they've been active, still haven't really felt like any of their posting has strongly towntold? haven't really liked their cases at all, could easily see them as w/w with manatee looking at it
Dannflor - i actually think echo's reaction to T3 and lack of anything on dann is partnery, spiffeh pushing here doesn't really alleviate any concerns
DrippingGoofball - push on vax is like pure town-dgb altho in a multi that's not worth a lot, possible vfp really was overwhelmed with the game's pace, replace-out was sitewide so i think that's nullish, not sure ever escapes the poe

I dont see a taco town here but prove me wrong hey. if any investigative want to head on over to taco's house tonight, go for it. the cop is not allowed to go there though.
cop goes to anya or massy. period.

ffery did soften her read on massy. you could be right.

the bear is the towniest he's every been in all of history. you can't touch him. he's in both my and morph's no touch zone. dont touch him.

what do you think about kakeguri knowing the inactive head is Maria r?

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Considering DGB is the elim today regardless I believe it's best we take look at slots like Anya/Dann would be my first choices. Now, these are not the most wolfread slots we have but slots we believe need to be put under more pressure. (Taco/Wheme already seem to have enough heat on them.)

I like this idea! Anya especially but we can revisit dann too.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

im gonna try to lurk untill either celestial is dead or its time to claim

oh you can just claim whenever you want.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Im going to discuss with my mason buddies (there are three masons left OK)
but I think we're going to want claims and night actions from DGB, Vecna, Taco, and Anya today.
there's a specific reason for this but I think we do need these claims today.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

by the way fun fact, morph wanted wheme to neighborize them so that they could tell wheme that we(celestial) was their biggest scum read so that wheme would always townread us since he's malefactor and they want scum alive.

also I was worried we couldn't prove we were masons if morph died so i asked morph what to do if everyone didn't believe me so now I just have a huge bunch of random stuff about ffery playing with petapans alt lmao. I might post them if I get bored because why not :O it'd be a waste if I didn't get to use it :O

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

if my heads all decide we want claims from certain people, we will request them because they may have very important information in them that can guilty people.
and anyone that refuses to claim is in the shoot them down asap vig pool.
so taco if you are town, is it better to be nk'ed by scum or waste a vig shot?

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

meh mostly i think they try to push an agenda more aggressively as scum rather than just getting mad and partially claiming. feels way more like town rage here.

I feel like taco has been aggressive and that claim actually just doesn't mean anything at all. he claims its anti werewolf and that he knows why morph's role was role blocker. that actually just means absolutely nothing??????????????

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

like claiming that you know why morph was RBer is not helpful because there's no way to *KNOW* that unless informed and that really doesn't mean anything since morph is literally dead.
then claiming to be a role that is anti werewolf.
like ok? I'm pretty sure my role isn't exact pro werewolf? there's like no roles that are pro werewolf except like miller that shows up as werewolf. like what is that supposed to mean??????????
I dont think that is half claiming. I think what he's done is the equivalent of not claiming.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I thibk that can still die


-rolling clouds

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Or at least ignored

[Celestial Powerhouse]

THE ALMIGHTYWANTS ACLAIM IN FUUULLLL

[Celestial Powerhouse]

God yall are either tunneled as shit or wolves who want dont wanna waste a nightkill on me

did you just call me a wolf lmfao?
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
not a single person in this room can say that with a fully serious face right now.
if we were wolves, morph would've outed the entire masonry early yesterday.
that is total bullshit and you dont even believe it yourself

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Vecna - still seems fine, think wolfreads based on manatee

I agreed with this, talked to cabd about it.it was partially that but largely about their interactions together and how Manatee felt the need to explain it more compared to her read on either of jer mason buddies

Also she the way Vecna reacted to it was also telling

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Vecna - still seems fine, think wolfreads based on manatee

I agreed with this, talked to cabd about it.it was partially that but largely about their interactions together and how Manatee felt the need to explain it more compared to her read on either of jer mason buddies

Also she the way Vecna reacted to it was also telling

I think vecnas today posts are worse but the conclusion is the same

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

ALSO PETA

remember the time you were wrong about the nachodra?

We should grab Vecna, it's endorsed by both zebracats

[Celestial Powerhouse]

ALSO PETA

remember the time you were wrong about the nachodra?

We should grab Vecna, it's endorsed by both zebracats

shhh brother not yet! we want dgb today!

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

KEEP THE DIGS COMING, IT FUELS MY PETTY EGO

[Celestial Powerhouse]

PEDIT: I'm just a messenger!

[Celestial Powerhouse]

No ur digs fuel my ego.

Wolves are you and Vecna.

Dbg is prob maf

[Celestial Powerhouse]

That looks like AtE in its truestfotm

[Celestial Powerhouse]

HAH


HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA


HAH

[Celestial Powerhouse]

That looks like AtE in its truestfotm

[Celestial Powerhouse]

If im wolf i would be able to actually coach manatee to get townread. Yall are ridiculous like i know how to help people do the right thing to be townread by the right people when scum. Hell i can stay in that just right zone as scum and avoid being a major scumread excelt the people i push into consensus PoE.

pfft. aint no one ready to be in a pt with 5 obvtown. you try it. you would've died day one instead of your buddy there.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Breaking character for a mo

Honet, momrangal is the QUEEN of emotional manipulation. Nice try

[Celestial Powerhouse]

mom is an absolute queen in everything~~~~~~~

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

dgb is 100 times more lucid and towny sounding than I have ever experienced it being before as town

it's freaking me out

dannnnnnn that means its scummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I can confirm that DGB is townier as scum than town.

I can't read them personally but in death curse, they nearly turned their slot's SRs all around.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

@DGB fullclaim

you dont have that right and literally stop. we've already been over this. our hydra might want claims. stop rushing this wagon.

lukewarm unvote please.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

@DGB fullclaim

you dont have that right and literally stop. we've already been over this. our hydra might want claims. stop rushing this wagon.

lukewarm unvote please.

-Mister Ocean

You have no cred here. You admitted to being a 3 person hydra who is just sheeping a dead slot without any thought.

Step up if you want to do things.

lmfao. the person who has the least amount of cred this whole game is telling me that. how ironic.
if you actually read my post which you didn't, there are reads that I have pointed out I disagree with. and excuse your mouth. that deal slot you speak of had your whole scum team nailed down by the end of night one. I'd like to see you do that in a mini theme. Let's not even begin to mention this happend in a multi ball large theme.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

You tried to get me to full claim with 0 votes on my slot. So honestly? Just stay in your lane. You're a prime example why masons can be -EV in the wrong hands. Cabd is an example of them being +EV because he actually evaluated the masonry in the way you should when its a mafia-less hood.

when you get to the dead thread tomorrow night, you can complain to morph about how their reads are too good

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

How do you feel about Wheme trying to rush the DGB vote earlier btw?

I mean I still think he is malefactor so eh.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

You know what? I think your slot is actually malefactor.

masonry is confirmed to not have malefactor.
lmao nice try.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

You know what? I think your slot is actually malefactor.

masonry is confirmed to not have malefactor.
lmao nice try.

-Mister Ocean

I don't believe that, but I do believe that you are not malefactor by claiming this.

our role pm says that we(all the masons) are confirmed to not be mafia but werewolves maybe exist in our mason chat. there is no mention of malefactor potentially existing. therefore, we are confirmed to be either town or werewolf. and its pretty damn obvious that we're town. we have no reason to be outing all our buddies and scum if we are werewolf.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

why do we have Kayzan outside of consensus PoE btw?

I've seen a lack of discussion about them although thats prob my fault lmao


but I decided to sift through some ISOs of the less active slots and kayzan's read list had manatee as null and their scumreads looks really bad

or you could look at their most recent post which has pretty decent reads?

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

DGB last mafia

Kayzan + Vax/Wheme last WW sounds like a reasonable solve in my head rn.


I'm going to see who echo was pushing because there's a good chance WW killed that not bc they thought the slot was scum. It is really strange that *mafia* killed cabd and not WW tho considering that WW KNOWS whos in the masonry.

kazyan and vax are both >rand town. wheme is just malefactor.
we are not elimming outside of the kill pool until all of them are dead.

I never understood all the talk about werewolf killing. like why can't werewolves kill echo? the bp is probably like activated or something. of course the werewolves can kill it. all the claw stuff didn't make fucking sense.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

is the bp activated? does your role tell you that?

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

But like the fact wolves didn't target morph themselves - that should scream that wolves did NOT consider cabd a threat and their reads were actually more accurate against mafia WHICH WAS SHOWN TO BE CORRECT

lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooo VECNAS BUDDY ARRIVED AT THE PARTY
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
shoot where's that pooky gif?

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

ok but the logic that wolves killed echo = cabds reads wrong is bad.
stop that.
maybe there are flaws in cabds reads but this doesn't justify that.
another thing is that mafia still chose to kill morph. so you're telling me that the wolf reads are wrong but all the mafia reads are right? why'd you take so long to hop on DGB then?

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

the fact that I've been leaving my scumrange for a while.

I dont know who you are and I'm not going to meta an alt. that is a total waste of my time and either way, this game is solved by poe. if you really are town, its fine. you'll just win the game posthumously.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

ah dk. interesting. let me do a reread.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

if you want to, feel free to town case yourself while I'm rereading. this is much easier actually. I have a decent record reading you.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

ok I feel a lot better about taco knowing they are dk. but I still need to do a reread on this.
I'm going to eat dinner first but I will definitely get this reread done today.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

VOTE: DGB

WAIIIIIIIIIT
dude I'm about to die tonight.
I need the claims that I need and I still have some stuff from the mason pt.
also I need to get myself a read on taco before I die tonight literally.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I would not be surprised to see all scum within
[Wheme, Anya, DGB, mastina, Vecna, peta]


I just need to narrow this down further.

ok I've started my reread and I think I'm tunneled so there isn't any clear benefits to continuing that reread.
anyways, you have a werewolf investigative right?
use it on vecna or anya.
if you use it on literally anyone else, i will have some issues with you.
I can very hesitantly give you a town lean for now but if you decide to go literally target pooky or some literal obvtown, i'd just treat that as a scum claim here honestly.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I think the thread has basically agreed that DGB is gonna die today, so let's set a timer on how long we're going to wait for those claims so that scum don't just try to run out the clock.

2 days maximum for us to figure out what we want to say.

right now DGB is at E-2.

I just asked the mod to put a timer on his next vc but there is ~11 days left according to him. so we have time.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

oh wow massy's recent post reads very genuine :O

hmmm I'll have to think on this.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

im okay w/ ending the day now

ugh my other heads aren't really responsive right now. I'd rather wait but I mean if you dont care what other stuff we have, go forth and end the day.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

OK NO MORE FROM TACO

I believe the claim now.

Sorry to let ocean take point but DK is >rand town

[Celestial Powerhouse]

THE Z MAN HAS NOT YET MISSED TOWN KOBS YET

Also hello koba

[Celestial Powerhouse]

We claim

THIRD MASON

.

If anyone has the guts to counterclaim this, go ahead lmao.

first things first, both heads(of morph) were convinced echo was scum and i didnt believe them at all until the flip today. so, i just wanted to say kudos to them for that read honestly.

im going to try to replicate their reads lists .... bear with me im not as good at this thing.

confofotown

Celestial Powerhouse

we are 100% town here and conftown af since if morph was in the pt with two wolves, they would've both figured it out asap. they'd be like holy shit this pt howling but morph didn't reveal us to the game because they townread us really really hard. ffery scum read us at first but we talked things out and she was like yeh you guys are town. during the night, they told us a shit shit shit ton of things and I guarantee that if we were werewolf, they would've caught us before then

towny town

first off,

pooky

is the most obvious town i've ever seen in this entire universe. i've never seen pooky happier or more playful. i would bet my life on pooky being town here. seriously. dont anyone dare lay a finger on my bear.

lukewarm

was ffery's strongest townread and you know what, im fine with giving him a townpass for the rest of the game. ffery is apparently very obsessed with him and i trust her read there plus i also townread lukewarm. i dont agree with everything he says but i do townread him.

kakeguri addicts

' less active head is maria r according to morph. i find the active head scummy but i do believe in their ability to sort maria so i give this a hard townread and a safety pass for the rest of the game.

unwnd

was a hard townread from them. I sort of agree. like I'd put unwnd as a TR just because they seem towny but maybe not at the very top. idk probably town anyways but I just have paranoia on them.

probably town

ffery thinks

ythan

is scum or tunneled town. i lean the latter and I believe cabd does as well. he just reads so so innocent here that I think he is town. I dont like his positioning around dann but I understand town get tunneled at times

petapan

is a town lean from both heads and enough that ffery told us how to make him think she was speaking to him. my own read on peta is that him starting off with wrong reads is a good sign that they are natural. his shift into better reads didn't feel as natural but I truly dont feel the manipulation that I felt last time I played with him. his activity in general is lower but I agree with this townread.

the resistance

was in the category above for cabd but i think they belong in this category instead. cabd said that the moonlogic was towny and very Titus-y whereas I find Titus really scummy. so I'm going to put them here but mention that I dont townread them. I would not lim them over the people on the bottom but if those are all dead, this is where I'd look. my partners also hard townread them btw.

----------------------------------------------------------- under this line is where I think there might be scum if there are any in this section

Uncle Shelby

was a high town lean for them. I think he shows a bunch of surface level town tells and am willing to give him a town pass unless I feel otherwise.

dannflor

's walls are so sexy. I think he might be scum but I think he's probably just town here. his thought process is fairly natural. I would call him a paranoia scum read if need be and we run out of confoscums to elim.

kazyan

meh. i could totally see this being scum honestly but morph has them here so I'll leave them for now.

null

Vaxkiller

i dont read any way in any universe. morph had a town lean on his like ten posts so I would still say, leave them until all the obvious scum are gone. if there's still scum left and vax isnt cleared yet, kill him. good place for investigatives

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ we have entered the kill zone. before killing ALL MEMBERS of the kill zone, the above shouldn't be touched unless someone from the kill zone is cleared. vigs should also explicitly shoot in the below pool.

scum

VFP/DGB.

I never understood the scum reads on this slot but im just assuming its correct tbh. I dont read vfp or dgb either way but morph was

really

confident on this read so it's probably right. :/ DGB's reads are pretty bad and thats really all I have to go off of here.

Taco

is scum for ................ pretty obvious reasons lmao. morph says he could be on either team but definitely isnt town and I didnt agree yesterday but after the ridiculous game of "lets vote a different towny person every minute for ten minutes straight", I totally agree

werewolf

vecna

was their strongest wolf read(cabd said that vecna was 100% werewolf thats how certain he was). cabd has a point about manatee defending vecna awkwardly though i dont totally buy that point by itself. apart from that, the way vecna said the wolf kill on echo meant that morph's reads were wrong was soooooo far fetched and felt like wolf being upset people didnt understand all the wifom they attempted to put into the night kill. that post really rubbed me the wrong way and i think morph is just correct that vecna is wolf here. 2893 is also really really really really really really bad. like actually that post alone might as well be a werewolf claim. in the context especially, it was the most tmi way to throw shade at us because ONLY the wolves know we are third mason.

Anya

felt like she was bus posting when manatee died. morph and I mind meld on that post so anya is here though morph put her in the section called 3rd party/generic SRs

they thought that

mastina

might be werewolf. im not sure i buy this read to be honest and ffery later says that the read softened a little bit for her. i kind of fluctuate between hard scumread and townread massy like i typically do. it's fun but i dont know how to read her honestly. this is one of the last in this bottom section to kill because morph ended up softening that read after a reread.

malefactor

morph thinks

wheme

is malefactor and i agree with it. miller that shows up as malefactor is pretty damn convenient and theres not really a point in it. its too specific to be a joke also. we originally SRed wheme but him being malefactor makes sense since he does seem uninformed and doesnt fit all that well into either team(scum or wolf) essentially cabd just told us : kill all the scum and wolves and let wheme cry in the corner.

-Mister Ocean

Taking a quick swim too FIND MY LITTLE BROTHER

buuttt... That was his project so ill let him finish that up.

Meanwhile!

Here's what's swimming around in my little head.

I think DBG is doing a good job in turning their slot around, and I'm currently sitting on one of hestias perfect little hedges as i contemplate taco here.

The slots that all catch my interest is as follows!

Mastina
Taco
VFP/DBG
Ythan
Vax
Anya
Shelby
Vecna

And theres the obvious malefactor that is wheme so we can conveniently just ignore that.

We will talk about who we DO NOT TOUCH

shortly.
PLEASE HOLD

PEDIT:

HAH

thats a funny if I have ever seen one!

I would not be surprised to see all scum within
[Wheme, Anya, DGB, mastina, Vecna, peta]


I just need to narrow this down further.

Relevant quotes, also confused with the resistance vote

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Anya needs to claim next

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Dbg > Vecna > Anya >Vax > Mastina > Shelby > Ythan

Until town is hit/game is won.


Taco, Pooky, lukewarm, Unwnd, resistance DO NOT TOUCH NEVER TOUCH ALL TOWN

[Celestial Powerhouse]

POOKY

I have strong reason to believe Tacos claim and it will be talked about ad the guided semi mass is all done. On your cat I promise

[Celestial Powerhouse]

All these last posts are thunder btw.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I WILL REMIND EVERYONE WHY ZEUS IS THE HEAD GOD.

WHY HADES LIVES UNDERGROUND AND WHY POSEIDON CAN ONPY2MAKE WAVES

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Koba are you still here?

Your scum pool is

(Wheme, Anya, DGB, mastina, Vecna, peta)

Cabd/ffery
(Mastina, Vecna, anya, VFP/Dbg)

Mine

(Mastina, VFP/DBG, Ythan, Vax, Anya, Shelby, Vecna)

The gods collective

(Mastina, VFP/DBG, Anya, Vecna)

There are alot of names that are shared in common, Unwnd has alot of these names in their own elimination list and with the zebra kat, wheme sits as a malefactor and Wheme pings me as scummy.

If we hit in all the names we have in common, the game is that much more likely to be over or close to it.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Isnt this just beautiful guys

[Celestial Powerhouse]

happy birthday massy!

wait is that a legitimate claim lmfao why does it sound so funky?
mom do we want night actions from anya?
im gonna go ahead and say we want it + summary of the role

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I guess Mastina is claiming malefactor? If true, murder Wheme

I really don't think that is what she is softing -- I have a different guess lol

its not and its funny vecna is twisting a pretty clear soft.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Well that was a lovely vacation to the Cocytus. Makes a change from the Styx and given how angry the souls in the Styx are... they have absolutely nothing on the souls wandering the shores of the Cocytus...

What did I miss that my dear darling brothers haven't told me?

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Well that was a lovely vacation to the Cocytus. Makes a change from the Styx and given how angry the souls in the Styx are... they have absolutely nothing on the souls wandering the shores of the Cocytus...

What did I miss that my dear darling brothers haven't told me?

- Lord of the cacophany of wailing that is abandoned souls on the shores of the Cocytus.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

NOt much I guess, well back to the admin work.

-Hades, Lord of too many filing cabinets...

[Celestial Powerhouse]

VOTE: DGB

all of us agree with this vote but wanted to wait.

If we die tonight,
1) morph RBed Anya. REMEMBER THIS. it is important
2) morph was CERTAIN that echo was scum. CERTAIN!! Morph wanted double elim today! remember this all! it is VERY important.

MORPH SET ALL OF THIS UP. On my flip,

READ THIS POST

and my past posts about echolocation. BPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBPBP

we better not get nked otherwise scum are gonna find themselves with another guilty.

no one is listening to us asking to drag the day out a bit more and none of my hydra buddies are being responsive so good night and if scum and wolves are wise, they'll leave us alive

REMEMBER THIS POST IF WE DIE. PIECE THE PUZZLE PIECES TOGETHER.
LOOK AT MORPH'S LAST READS FOR GUIDANCE.
Pooky you know your cat is always right. If you hear howling, KILL IT.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I'm assuming 4 per side if town is lots of PRs, 3 per side if town is power light.

Explictly Werewolf:
Manatee

SCUM

Vecna

SCUM

Explicitly Mafia:
SEKRIT ONE

SCUM

Generic scum of either side:
VFP

SCUM

Spiffeh

SCUM

Tacos

Let's finish the job.

Pooky I hate to break it to you but the "SEKRIT ONE" cabd explicitly told us didn't exist and was there to catch mafia.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

it probably is anya. that would also explain why wolves didn't get a kill that night. anya was blocked.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

no sure but I dont believe wolves killed echo.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

I dont see why wolves and scum cross kill cabd and then cross kill kakeguri.

if that legitimately happened, their luck sucks ass.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Kakeguri was not the most obvtown here also. maybe they got scared off because I said killing me would lead to a guilty >.>

-Heh

[Celestial Powerhouse]

why not wait for a couple claims? its not like we dont have time

-Mister ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

why not wait for a couple claims? its not like we dont have time

-Mister ocean

do we need more claims than the 1v1 we have?

we need the 1v1ers claims?????????

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

hm sure okay. VOTE: anya

the cat hasn't been wrong all game.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

hm sure okay. VOTE: anya

the cat hasn't been wrong all game.

-Mister Ocean

I'm assuming 4 per side if town is lots of PRs, 3 per side if town is power light.

Explictly Werewolf:

Manatee
Vecna

Explicitly Mafia:
SEKRIT ONE

Generic scum of either side:

VFP
Spiffeh

Tacos

Taco is on the list, anya is not. Just saying

anya was blocked by morph. thats more powerful than a puny list.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

UNVOTE:
I'm waiting for zeus and hades.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Alright Peta come out I know it's you

Pooky?

..Wheme?

.....Luke?!?

might I suggest ........Celestial?

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

and if there's more than 3 groupscum in factions?

we POE your buddies to death.

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Taco had nothing to do with this glorious wagon of justice

Yeah, I am glad that we {Mastina, Peta, Resistance, Kazyan, Dann, Pooky, and Luke} all were able to catch Anya on our own like this

um excuse me i want credit too.

-Mister ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

cabdddddddd I WANTED TO SAY ANYA WAS SCUM BC BLOCKED KILL
but cephy was being all weird
and then I was like WHAT IF THEY BOTH KILLED MORPH
and then I was like UGHHHH
and everyone was like wolves killed echo and that was total bullshit so I was like it had to be wolves excited to take on the narrative that morph's reads are wrong
so then I was like VECNA IS WOLF
but then they flipped scum wtf I was so confused

[Celestial Powerhouse]

thank you for the doc bear bear <3

[Celestial Powerhouse]

THERE WERE TWO DOCS HOW THE FUCK DID MORPH Die?!

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Kazyan protects Celestial
Pooky protects Celestial
Celestial kills Vecna
Vecna kills Celestial (nope)

hehhhh

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Oh of course Nora was Poseidon lol I just got it.

took you long enough

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Strongman 1-shot on each team.

but if there is two docs, shouldn't that take out the strongman?

[Celestial Powerhouse]

OHHHH

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Oh, a few more thoughts from me:

1) Vaxkiller was never actually in my scum pile. I just saw "I check as having a gun" and wondered why you would ever say that, since that's drawing a target on your back made of moon rocks. I figured that Vaxkiller was wolf-bulletproof (Wolfsbane), so I kept gently saying that the claim should be treated as scum in the hopes that a wolf would attack. In practice, the scum teams had bigger fires to put out. Later, I decided that the read didn't make sense, especially with a vigilante obviously running around.

2) This post gave me some kind of euphoria.

I'm a little lost because I have some unpopular reads (Pooky is scum, Dann is scum, and unwnd is ???), but Celestial's scum categories in the wall are good. I'm okay with killing the first three names on that list (DGB, Taco, Vecna), with a soft preference for throwing Taco off the cliff first.

Kazyan is so cuuuuuuuuuute. I see why morph TRed them now. shit morphs reads are too good for this world. holy fucks.

<333333 you were so cute!!

[Celestial Powerhouse]

If we ever call somebody "cute" it's because like, top tier townread. It's why we made the "ruffle Luke's hair" thing day one.

but I called kaz cute not you!
my version of cute doesn't really have to do with reads

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Guys, my bet is mastina is claiming Seer. Not sure how any of us had missed it

I thought mastina was being pretty explicit in trying to tell you she was a monk lol

we got the pt part but we thought she was claiming seer lol.
we thought she was a seer in a pt.

-Mister Oceannn

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Happy birthday taco

[Celestial Powerhouse]

-Mister ocean