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Post Post #9 (isolation #0) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:48 am

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I'm informed miller, I know there's a macho 2-shot cop.
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Post Post #10 (isolation #1) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:58 am

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Players in order of readability:

Really easy: Lukewarm, marcistar
Also ez but slightly less: Pavowski, Toogeloo
I have some idea: Enchant, HockeyFan
Screw alts: Hectic alt, Galron, Vulture
OPENWOLF: NM
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Post Post #11 (isolation #2) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:59 am

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Actually I think NM being chosen clears Enchant.
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Post Post #14 (isolation #3) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:24 am

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In post 12, HockeyFan wrote:Man why did N_M get the gun.

In post 9, T3 wrote:I'm informed miller, I know there's a macho 2-shot cop.
I cc
In post 11, T3 wrote:Actually I think NM being chosen clears Enchant.
You dont have to allign with your mafia partner
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We just came off a game where Enchant hammered NM on page 2 and I imagine scum!Enchant would be conscious of this fact.
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Post Post #16 (isolation #4) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:39 am

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This isn't a
hard
clear but it's enough for me to strong townread Enchant off the bat.
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Post Post #18 (isolation #5) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:42 am

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Is that a potato chip and a cube????
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Post Post #20 (isolation #6) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:47 am

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Oh, and I don't think NM being gunned is WIFOM because
1. NM is the cow troll
2. Not many of the players know Enchant hammered NM
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Post Post #22 (isolation #7) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:48 am

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Even the games he mods are insanity.
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Post Post #24 (isolation #8) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:53 am

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Post Post #27 (isolation #9) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:56 am

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To be honest I think NM should just hipfire Enchant so he can die and we can turn NM into steak.
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Post Post #30 (isolation #10) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:00 am

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marci's normal play gets her scumread but using a ~secret~ meta tell it should become apparent if she is scum pretty fast.
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Post Post #33 (isolation #11) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:28 am

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In post 29, HockeyFan wrote:Nvm I misread, but still why do you want people to hipfire
Because NM is a troll.
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Post Post #36 (isolation #12) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:51 am

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VOTE: lukewarm
I can't tell whether his avatar is a hermit crab or a knight.
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Post Post #40 (isolation #13) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:58 am

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In post 38, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 36, T3 wrote:VOTE: lukewarm
I can't tell whether his avatar is a hermit crab or a knight.
Out of all reasons to lazilly hop on this vote, this was one I wasnt expecting
In post 37, Toogeloo wrote:I have a history of shooting Cops and Doctors as Vigilante. Obviously, I should eventually have the gun. This game seems like it has the possibility of being over quick lol.
Alright cool Im gonna shoot you so u can shoot T3 the (town) PR
This game is an all vanilla game though
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Post Post #41 (isolation #14) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:58 am

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Votesdon't mater and it's ultimately NM's choice.
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Post Post #42 (isolation #15) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:02 am

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Typos.
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Post Post #43 (isolation #16) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:03 am

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Luke is a strong town player but it should become readily apparent if he's scum so I would hold off on shooting him.
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Post Post #45 (isolation #17) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:07 am

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Such as?
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Post Post #46 (isolation #18) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:19 am

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I suggest you shoot Galron Art or Vulture unless someone develops a strong opinion against that.
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Post Post #53 (isolation #19) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:21 am

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In post 47, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 40, T3 wrote:
In post 38, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 36, T3 wrote:VOTE: lukewarm
I can't tell whether his avatar is a hermit crab or a knight.
Out of all reasons to lazilly hop on this vote, this was one I wasnt expecting
In post 37, Toogeloo wrote:I have a history of shooting Cops and Doctors as Vigilante. Obviously, I should eventually have the gun. This game seems like it has the possibility of being over quick lol.
Alright cool Im gonna shoot you so u can shoot T3 the (town) PR
This game is an all vanilla game though
Shh you're still a PR
In post 41, T3 wrote:Votesdon't mater and it's ultimately NM's choice.
I mean, I do think votes do have
some
merit, as why would u vote someone u TR(or in this case, someone who u dont want to be shot)? Voting someone implies that your scum read them and want to put pressue or b. you dont mind them getting shot
That makes sense.
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Post Post #54 (isolation #20) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:22 am

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In post 51, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 46, T3 wrote:I suggest you shoot Galron Art or Vulture unless someone develops a strong opinion against that.
????? What is that? You're telling me u want to shoot people who have 0-1 posts rn?
If we hipfire.
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Post Post #56 (isolation #21) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:24 am

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In post 48, Not_Mafia wrote:
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Post Post #57 (isolation #22) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:25 am

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In post 55, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, T3 wrote:
In post 51, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 46, T3 wrote:I suggest you shoot Galron Art or Vulture unless someone develops a strong opinion against that.
????? What is that? You're telling me u want to shoot people who have 0-1 posts rn?
If we hipfire.
Ok but we're not doing that so you dont have to worry about that(unless ofc N_M goes full troll mode)
Yeah.
Ofc I'm going to have to wait 10 days for NM to shoot. :madcow:
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Post Post #60 (isolation #23) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:26 am

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In post 55, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 54, T3 wrote:
In post 51, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 46, T3 wrote:I suggest you shoot Galron Art or Vulture unless someone develops a strong opinion against that.
????? What is that? You're telling me u want to shoot people who have 0-1 posts rn?
If we hipfire.
Ok but we're not doing that so you dont have to worry about that(unless ofc N_M goes full troll mode)
Yeah :lol:
Toog was talking about who to hipfire in the previous quote.
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Post Post #61 (isolation #24) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:27 am

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In post 58, Not_Mafia wrote:Hands up clodpoles, my udders are primed and ready

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Post Post #64 (isolation #25) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:36 am

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In post 63, HockeyFan wrote:Ok t3 is posting alot and they are actually semi
good
posts as of rn, so they are town. Idk if this is their scum play tho
My most recent scumgame is Open: The Siege of Aurelia and my most recent towngame is Mini Theme: Open Draft
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Post Post #66 (isolation #26) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:38 am

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Hockey seems to have good intent. Hard to explain, kind of just vibes.
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Post Post #75 (isolation #27) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:07 am

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In post 68, Pavowski wrote:
In post 52, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 50, Not_Mafia wrote:I’m drawing this out as long as I possibly can
Bad decision
VOTE: Hockeyfan
This is a very newbtown reaction.
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Post Post #76 (isolation #28) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:08 am

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In post 69, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 64, T3 wrote:
In post 63, HockeyFan wrote:Ok t3 is posting alot and they are actually semi
good
posts as of rn, so they are town. Idk if this is their scum play tho
My most recent scumgame is Open: The Siege of Aurelia and my most recent towngame is Mini Theme: Open Draft
zzz too lazy to look at your past games, i dont like meta. As of right now tho, from your posts this game I am Still town reading u
Meta is really good.
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Post Post #77 (isolation #29) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:10 am

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Art, why is HockeyFan scum? My read on him is based on tone and vibes.
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Post Post #84 (isolation #30) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:19 am

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In post 81, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 10, T3 wrote:
Players in order of readability:

Really easy: Lukewarm, marcistar
Also ez but slightly less: Pavowski, Toogeloo
I have some idea: Enchant, HockeyFan
Screw alts: Hectic alt, Galron, Vulture
OPENWOLF: NM
This really makes me want to go compile your read accuracy on me in out past games

Spoiler:
I don't think that it actually that great, just like based on memory
yes but
I BELIEVE IN THE TOWNBLOC DREAM
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Post Post #86 (isolation #31) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:20 am

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Alright I'm getting an avatar when I am on my laptop next HOLD ME TO THIS
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Post Post #89 (isolation #32) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:21 am

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Also scum!Lukewarm posts ubertowny sounding one-liners whereas town!Lukewarm responds to people and is much more deep etc.
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Post Post #90 (isolation #33) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:21 am

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In post 88, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 86, T3 wrote:Alright I'm getting an avatar when I am on my laptop next HOLD ME TO THIS
I believe I have found a scum claim
Better shoot me then.
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Post Post #97 (isolation #34) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:32 am

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In post 96, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 64, T3 wrote:
In post 63, HockeyFan wrote:Ok t3 is posting alot and they are actually semi
good
posts as of rn, so they are town. Idk if this is their scum play tho
My most recent scumgame is Open: The Siege of Aurelia and my most recent towngame is Mini Theme: Open Draft
Is your most recent scum game, not pooky's dead silence game?
Yes but I'm trying to expunge that game from my memory.
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Post Post #99 (isolation #35) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:33 am

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In post 94, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 36, T3 wrote:VOTE: lukewarm
I can't tell whether his avatar is a hermit crab or a knight.
This...

I....

It is Vivi. The greatest character in any video game ever
OHHHH the weird hat guy in Kingdom Hearts 2?
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Post Post #105 (isolation #36) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:39 am

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I actually forgot about DS for a moment there.
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Post Post #106 (isolation #37) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:41 am

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In post 104, Vulture wrote:
In post 103, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 102, Vulture wrote:Hey.
Hello.
What's up?
A vulture.
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Post Post #107 (isolation #38) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:41 am

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In post 100, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 95, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 91, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 15, HockeyFan wrote:hmmm, still dont like you hard clearing soemone on page 1
It is probably a bad reason to hard clear someone, but it does look like t3 logic
Does you saying its "t3 logic" mean that this is NAI for t3?
Yeah, T3 can use some pretty questionable logic to read people as both alignments
It wasn't a hard clear but a reason why Enchant is likely town.
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Post Post #122 (isolation #39) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:12 am

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In post 114, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 110, marcistar wrote:
In post 10, T3 wrote:
Players in order of readability:

Really easy: Lukewarm, marcistar
offended, u just broke my heart :cry:
Just remember that he hard town read you in our last game
becauseididn'tnotice herreadlistwhengoingoverheriso
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Post Post #127 (isolation #40) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:14 am

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In post 113, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 86, T3 wrote:Alright I'm getting an avatar when I am on my laptop next HOLD ME TO THIS
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must... resist... urge.. to... shitpost.
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Post Post #128 (isolation #41) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:15 am

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In post 126, Enchant wrote:Probably, other people who played with me say more about my competency in game.
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Post Post #132 (isolation #42) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:19 am

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In post 129, marcistar wrote:
In post 125, Lukewarm wrote:The last time I saw you post that exact gif, you were scum :eek:
actually?
:cry: do i not send it often? i know i send it to meuh kinda often its like my fave in the whole world AHAH
I hard townread you because I missed a post where you scumclaimed.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #43) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:20 am

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In post 131, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 124, Vulture wrote:
In post 121, Galron wrote:
In post 119, Vulture wrote:
In post 117, Galron wrote:VOTE: Vulture

Odd landing.
What did you find odd about it?
"Hello."

"What's up?"

First page maybe, but five pages in, seems weird.
What about it is weird?
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Convince me not to shoot you in your next post or you die
I had no idea cows ate birds.
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Post Post #137 (isolation #44) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:22 am

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In post 135, HockeyFan wrote:Galron/Vulutre is such a odd interaction/so unnatural. I really dont know how to read it. Could be partners awkwardly trying to distance
I was literally about to say exactly this.
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Post Post #140 (isolation #45) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:23 am

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In post 136, Vulture wrote:
In post 131, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 124, Vulture wrote:
In post 121, Galron wrote:
In post 119, Vulture wrote:
In post 117, Galron wrote:VOTE: Vulture

Odd landing.
What did you find odd about it?
"Hello."

"What's up?"

First page maybe, but five pages in, seems weird.
What about it is weird?
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Convince me not to shoot you in your next post or you die
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Can't argue with that logic.
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Post Post #145 (isolation #46) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:25 am

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In post 139, Enchant wrote:Maybe we choose most competent player here and shot him?

If he mafia, expireinced mafia dies.
If he is town, he will lead.

I really suggesting.
Town can have bad reads.
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Post Post #153 (isolation #47) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:42 am

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Toog is here but not contributing.
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Post Post #154 (isolation #48) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:45 am

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Vulture, are you trying to play with a similar playstyle to your previous game on this alt or your main which I will not utter?
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Post Post #155 (isolation #49) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:53 am

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That was worded badly.
Are you trying to play naturally?
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Post Post #158 (isolation #50) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:06 am

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In post 156, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 153, T3 wrote:Toog is here but not contributing.
Maybe I want the gun so I can hipfire my gut reads.
Or you could get townread.
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Post Post #161 (isolation #51) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:10 am

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I've always been terrible at pictograms.
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Post Post #164 (isolation #52) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:25 am

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In post 159, Art wrote:Image
Oh, I understand.
Those posts read to me as newbie inquisitiveness.
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Post Post #165 (isolation #53) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:29 am

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In post 163, Art wrote:Image
VOTE: Art
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Post Post #172 (isolation #54) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:57 am

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Hard disagree with Art. Both of those posts look like jokes and Art is just making stuff up.
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Post Post #182 (isolation #55) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:18 am

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I metadived Vulture and looked at his games. Town Vulture usually posts scummy and devoid of content sounding one-liners but will occasionally interject with a longer post that has content. This seems to be the same a Vulture this game. This read holds less merit for 2 reasons.
1. He's an alt.
2. He doesn't have a scumgame on this account.
If I'm right about who he is then I've played with him a bit on his other alts but I don't think it matters because the play doesn't match up.
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Post Post #185 (isolation #56) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:24 am

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In post 183, Vulture wrote:
In post 182, T3 wrote:I metadived Vulture and looked at his games. Town Vulture usually posts scummy and devoid of content sounding one-liners but will occasionally interject with a longer post that has content. This seems to be the same a Vulture this game. This read holds less merit for 2 reasons.
1. He's an alt.
2. He doesn't have a scumgame on this account.
If I'm right about who he is then I've played with him a bit on his other alts but I don't think it matters because the play doesn't match up.
So, I think you put me in the alt category early on, and I forgot to ask:

You've played games with me before on this account, two I believe. Why do you need to metadive me when you have experience with me?
I forgot how you played.
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Post Post #186 (isolation #57) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:24 am

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In post 184, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 181, marcistar wrote:i think arts townie, i like their point about luke :oops: :oops:
I have never played with Art, but Marci...

You Pav and T3 literally just saw me saw the same things about Not_Mafia in our last game

Marci, are you scum?
Art is Hectic.
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Post Post #193 (isolation #58) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:47 am

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In post 192, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 182, T3 wrote:I metadived Vulture and looked at his games. Town Vulture usually posts scummy and devoid of content sounding one-liners but will occasionally interject with a longer post that has content. This seems to be the same a Vulture this game. This read holds less merit for 2 reasons.
1. He's an alt.
2. He doesn't have a scumgame on this account.
If I'm right about who he is then I've played with him a bit on his other alts but I don't think it matters because the play doesn't match up.
So whats your read on Vulture based on this game?
In post 190, Toogeloo wrote:I'm up to 3 names on my hipfire list.
The people you want to hipfire are presumably people you SR, so whats the point of hiding this info from town
Lean town.
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Post Post #195 (isolation #59) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:46 am

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In post 194, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 192, HockeyFan wrote:The people you want to hipfire are presumably people you SR, so whats the point of hiding this info from town
I don't want those people to alter their play just yet.
I think Toog is towny for the secretiveness around the reads. He seems to be quietely solving on his own.
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Post Post #196 (isolation #60) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:53 am

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In post 177, HockeyFan wrote:The whole set of interactions about Art's interactions are super ?? We have me(partially) and T3 defending luke and not agreeing with art's sr, and on the other hand we have Vulture apparently being to read Art's mind and intention for the SR? Makes no sense. Art/Vulture seems too level 1, but so does T3/Luke soo. Fwiw, I do think one of these pairs CAN exist, but not just because of these 2 posts
This is also a very newbtown post.
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Post Post #198 (isolation #61) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:57 am

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Well Vulture is expressing a mindmeld with Art which is kinda wtf
I agree that Art/Vulture seems too level 1 but with the mindmeld thing Art!scum strongly implies Vulture!scum but not the other way around. I have my independent reasons for scumreading Art so this very strongly implies Vulture!scum. I know I said I townread Vulture but as noted, the reasonscan be bad/invalid.
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Post Post #199 (isolation #62) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:58 am

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In post 197, Lukewarm wrote:T3, are you just town reading every slot?
Hi hello did you not see me pushing Art
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Post Post #200 (isolation #63) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:05 pm

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Pre-flip associatives are generally bad though.
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Post Post #202 (isolation #64) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:13 pm

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In post 201, Vulture wrote:
In post 198, T3 wrote:Well Vulture is expressing a mindmeld with Art which is kinda wtf
I agree that Art/Vulture seems too level 1 but with the mindmeld thing Art!scum strongly implies Vulture!scum but not the other way around. I have my independent reasons for scumreading Art so this very strongly implies Vulture!scum. I know I said I townread Vulture but as noted, the reasonscan be bad/invalid.
Is it WTF because you disagree or because I expressed that I agree with a point that I had already made before Art.
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Post Post #203 (isolation #65) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:16 pm

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I missed that. Disregard my points about the mindmeld.
UNVOTE:
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Post Post #229 (isolation #66) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:38 pm

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Hockey is screaming newbtown and Art should know better than this.
VOTE: art
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Post Post #230 (isolation #67) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:40 pm

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In post 211, Art wrote:Image
Newbies being all over the place and having complex thoughts like that is very strongly town indicative.
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Post Post #231 (isolation #68) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:41 pm

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Hm let's see if marci did the ~tell~
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Post Post #232 (isolation #69) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:44 pm

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Not yet.
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Post Post #234 (isolation #70) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:49 pm

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In post 226, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 217, Vulture wrote:
In post 216, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 213, Vulture wrote:
In post 210, HockeyFan wrote:Alright nvm im confused. Marci rolled scum in newbie 2061 and i actually like the tone of her early posts there. wtf, w/e im not putting too much stock into meta so

VOTE: Marci

<consider this a SR for now>
And what is the basis for your scumread after the last few posts?
Most of Marcis posts
Spoiler:
In post 123, marcistar wrote:
In post 114, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 110, marcistar wrote:
In post 10, T3 wrote:
Players in order of readability:

Really easy: Lukewarm, marcistar
offended, u just broke my heart :cry:
Just remember that he hard town read you in our last game
TRULY
im just multi talented

Image
In post 129, marcistar wrote:
In post 125, Lukewarm wrote:The last time I saw you post that exact gif, you were scum :eek:
actually?
:cry: do i not send it often? i know i send it to meuh kinda often its like my fave in the whole world AHAH
In post 141, marcistar wrote:
In post 132, T3 wrote:
In post 129, marcistar wrote:
In post 125, Lukewarm wrote:The last time I saw you post that exact gif, you were scum :eek:
actually?
:cry: do i not send it often? i know i send it to meuh kinda often its like my fave in the whole world AHAH
I hard townread you because I missed a post where you scumclaimed.
sir i never scumclaim (please say sike my confidence needs it :cry: :cry: :cry: )
In post 133, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 129, marcistar wrote:
In post 125, Lukewarm wrote:The last time I saw you post that exact gif, you were scum :eek:
actually?
:cry: do i not send it often? i know i send it to meuh kinda often its like my fave in the whole world AHAH
Yeah, the "last time I saw you post that exact gif" was in our first game together lol
ahh, dw i can post it in every game from here on if u want :cool:

luke r u scum
In post 169, marcistar wrote:
In post 168, Pavowski wrote:Marci could be scum for that gif alone; I'm gonna have nightmares.
only scum hate twerking alien :evil:


I dont like any of these quotes since they are either observations or filler. As for the whole sr based on tone, and stand out to me the most. The posts of marci's I didnt include are Marci just agreeing with everything Art said about luke which tbh I dont like either.
...so what about the content that she has posted, even if it is sparse. Do you agree/disagree with it?
Ok so the other /content/ that wasnt mentioned here that marci has posted is , and .

110- Not reading much into this as its ehr first post. A bunch of one liners that arent really alligment-indictivae. Its intresting tho that she was hunting for Luke partners right off the bat to set up possible misshots later?

181- They just sheeped Art's read on Luke here, and I dont really like that.

188- She said in 181 that she likes Art's point just to say in 188 she disagrees with it? sounds kinda wack. Also more of the lazy sheeping of Art's read on Luke

Coming to think of it, most of marci's content posts(and even some of her non content posts) are directed towards Luke/her read on him which is ??? Could be possible partners just interacting with each other as much as possible to get everyone else to TR them, not sure tho
I completely agree with your points about those posts sounding scummy [110 looks like a joke though]. Are they actually AI in the long run? I don't know.
I think hold off on pushing marci or at least don't shoot her until I've formed a solid read on her.
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Post Post #236 (isolation #71) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:51 pm

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In post 233, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 230, T3 wrote:
In post 211, Art wrote:Image
Newbies being all over the place and having complex thoughts like that is very strongly town indicative.
T3 wtf why are you Tring me/Defending me so much
Because I think scum are pushing you.
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Post Post #238 (isolation #72) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:00 pm

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Art absolutely knows better than to push a newbie for having 'scattered thoughts'. If he's town then this is a new low.
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Post Post #239 (isolation #73) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:02 pm

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In post 235, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 228, HockeyFan wrote:Ok then why are you suspicious of Marci?
In post 181, marcistar wrote:i think arts townie, i like their point about luke :oops: :oops:
This really bothered me. Like I said, she just saw me make almost identical posts about not_mafia in our last game together (newbie 2072), but then I remembered that in our game before that she even commented on me saying something similar to/about not_mafia (micro 1010).

One of the big read flags for me in our last game, was that Marci seemed VERY hesitant to ever give me a town read. I think that scum!Marci worries about be getting thread control

Spoiler:
Here is actually, every time that marci gave an opinion on me day 1 in newbie 2072
Luke seems off
Lukewarm - null (? maybe a slight scum lean)
Lukewarm - :?: I have no idea what to think about luke still


And this was like a thing that kept pinging me that game, but then I kept ignoring it. Well, not ignoring, but I kept being like, marci this is weird, why are you doing this? Marci, you know me better then this? ect, but then never actually scum read her for it, and then the game ended without me ever actually calling her scum for it.

So, when I saw that post this game, actually gonna treat it as a red flag
I don't think marci has a problem with townreading specifically you, it's that scum!marci is very indecisive.
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Post Post #242 (isolation #74) » Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:16 pm

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In post 240, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 237, HockeyFan wrote:Is the TLDR of this: Marci's not tring you therefore shes scum? Dont quite understand it but I'll let you bus Marci without any repercussions rn
It is not that she isn't town reading me. It is that she is vaguely worried about me over things that she should know are not scum indicative for me
That's fair. marci is probtown for developing a read on Art this fast but I'm not sure yet.
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Post Post #252 (isolation #75) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:07 am

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In post 245, Art wrote:Image
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Post Post #295 (isolation #76) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:33 am

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In post 254, Galron wrote:
In post 193, T3 wrote:
In post 192, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 182, T3 wrote:I metadived Vulture and looked at his games. Town Vulture usually posts scummy and devoid of content sounding one-liners but will occasionally interject with a longer post that has content. This seems to be the same a Vulture this game. This read holds less merit for 2 reasons.
1. He's an alt.
2. He doesn't have a scumgame on this account.
If I'm right about who he is then I've played with him a bit on his other alts but I don't think it matters because the play doesn't match up.
So whats your read on Vulture based on this game?
In post 190, Toogeloo wrote:I'm up to 3 names on my hipfire list.
The people you want to hipfire are presumably people you SR, so whats the point of hiding this info from town
Lean town.
What's the point of this post? Town Vulture comes across as scummy, and he's coming across as scummy this game, but that doesn't mean anything because he's an alt and he doesn't have a scum game on this account. And then you've played with him on his other alts but that doesn't matter either.

What are we supposed do with this information? That Vulture is scummy or is townie or that you don't have a read on him? What do you think of Vulture anyway?

Same thing with marci and the secret tell. Why mention that there is a secret tell at all until it's executed?

And then your read on Hockeyfan. You keep calling him town, but you haven't pushed him at all. He asked why you were defending him and you said it was because you thought scum were pushing him. What was scummy about the pushes on HockeyFan? Why aren't those pushes by town attempting to sort rather than by scum pushing someone you assume is town?
In a vacuum scum is generally just different than their towngame either way.
I've mentioned it in previois games.
My push on Art is because of the reasons Art used for scumreading Hockey. He's calling Hockey scum for being all over the place with reads.
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Post Post #296 (isolation #77) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:37 am

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In post 291, Pavowski wrote:
In post 290, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 282, Pavowski wrote:
In post 275, Lukewarm wrote:My shoot recommendations are at

People I trust with a gun: Art and me

People that I think might flip scum : Hockey, T3, Marci
I'm townreading t3 which makes me nervous and makes me think I should be scum reading him.
Why does it make you nervous? You're allowed to TR someone regardless of other peoples reads on him


If I read Marci on this game alone I'd peg her as scummy, but Marci here does not feel like scum!Marci as I've seen her. I dunno if I'd shoot there.

Hockey I'm not sure about. Initial impression was scummy but if he's scum it's a pretty lazy effort.

Ugh everybody alive has a 50/50 shot at being scum, do not like. Gonna review d1 when I get back to my laptop.
I am not used to t3 feeling like town to me regardless of alignment, that's what makes me doubt the read
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Post Post #297 (isolation #78) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:38 am

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:igmeou:
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Post Post #299 (isolation #79) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:04 pm

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Town: Pav, Hockey, Luke
Lean town: Toog, Enchant
Null: Vulture
Lean scum: marci
Scum: Art
I think I forgot someone but I forgot who.
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Post Post #301 (isolation #80) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:48 pm

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Oh yeah.
Galron is pretty much lockscum at this point.
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Post Post #304 (isolation #81) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 1:17 pm

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In post 302, Enchant wrote:T3, there's 4 mafias. So one of them at minimum is in your Town list.

Why you not considering it?
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Post Post #305 (isolation #82) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 1:49 pm

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Oh I misread your post.
Because I didn't consider it.
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Post Post #312 (isolation #83) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 2:46 pm

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In post 308, Art wrote:Image
Hockey as top townread after being pushed for scumreading Hockey...
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Post Post #318 (isolation #84) » Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:02 pm

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In post 316, Galron wrote:
In post 295, T3 wrote:
In post 254, Galron wrote:
In post 193, T3 wrote:
In post 192, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 182, T3 wrote:I metadived Vulture and looked at his games. Town Vulture usually posts scummy and devoid of content sounding one-liners but will occasionally interject with a longer post that has content. This seems to be the same a Vulture this game. This read holds less merit for 2 reasons.
1. He's an alt.
2. He doesn't have a scumgame on this account.
If I'm right about who he is then I've played with him a bit on his other alts but I don't think it matters because the play doesn't match up.
So whats your read on Vulture based on this game?
In post 190, Toogeloo wrote:I'm up to 3 names on my hipfire list.
The people you want to hipfire are presumably people you SR, so whats the point of hiding this info from town
Lean town.
What's the point of this post? Town Vulture comes across as scummy, and he's coming across as scummy this game, but that doesn't mean anything because he's an alt and he doesn't have a scum game on this account. And then you've played with him on his other alts but that doesn't matter either.

What are we supposed do with this information? That Vulture is scummy or is townie or that you don't have a read on him? What do you think of Vulture anyway?

Same thing with marci and the secret tell. Why mention that there is a secret tell at all until it's executed?

And then your read on Hockeyfan. You keep calling him town, but you haven't pushed him at all. He asked why you were defending him and you said it was because you thought scum were pushing him. What was scummy about the pushes on HockeyFan? Why aren't those pushes by town attempting to sort rather than by scum pushing someone you assume is town?
In a vacuum scum is generally just different than their towngame either way.
I've mentioned it in previois games.
My push on Art is because of the reasons Art used for scumreading Hockey. He's calling Hockey scum for being all over the place with reads.
Why do you town read HockeyFan?

And Vulture is probably town but he could be scum. Is that my takeaway?

And Marci could be town but could be town also.
Already explained a lot.
Vulture is leaning town, marci lean scum.
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Post Post #326 (isolation #85) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:23 am

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In post 322, Enchant wrote:Considering i saw pretty enough trollpeople, i think marci is town likely.

T3 mention some secret meta, and if she in maf list, then he noticed it. I just ask, is twerking alien have chain with that meta or what?
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Post Post #396 (isolation #86) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:12 am

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In post 330, Hectic wrote:Could everyone give 3 or 4 players they think are scum, and why?

I'm suspicious of players who have voiced minimal or few scumreads, despite the fact there are FOUR scumazzers out and about from a town player's perspective. Players that fall under this category include T3, marcistar, Toogeloo, and probably others

It's probably pretty difficult for scum to voice many scumreads here, given they either have to choose in the limited pool of townies, or give scumreads on their buds
If anything, this is town indicative for me. As town I usually prefer to form a townbloc early and then lim people in the PoE. For example, Open Draft Mafia or Large Normal 234 are my most recent towngames in which I did exactly this.
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Post Post #400 (isolation #87) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:36 am

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In post 359, Hectic wrote:
In post 354, Vulture wrote:I saw it earlier and went "huh, that's weird" but thought Marci was townier than her other scum games.

T3/Marci makes sense at least if Luke is town but it's hard to get over how slimy he felt early on to me.
T3's reads this game have felt very deliberate and showy, that's one of them

I'm not sure if town!T3 has big enough of an ego that he'd imply his read on marci is more important than the rest of the game's?
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Post Post #405 (isolation #88) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:56 am

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In post 404, Lukewarm wrote:T3, sorry if I don't put a ton of stock in your op marci meta tell

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In post 800, T3 wrote:I can usually read marci really well hold up
In post 807, T3 wrote:Using my OP marci tell I'm putting her at strong townread.
In post 931, ArcAngel9 wrote:
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fine lol
marci is really really really indecisive as scum and never vibereads anyone.
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Post Post #410 (isolation #89) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:46 pm

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I mean like scumarci never vibereads.
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Post Post #427 (isolation #90) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:55 am

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In post 422, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 421, marcistar wrote:
In post 419, Lukewarm wrote:Doing isos, and enchant feels like someone who thought they were signing up for a meme game and just really wanted to get the gun so he could just shoot away, and then slowly realized that ~half the lobby was taking the game seriously, and has resigned himself to a proper mafia game
where
What do you mean, where? thats like the whole iso

There is the "this is a meme game " phase:
7 - votes for the confirmed town
23 - asks for the gun
26 - scum claims
31 - asks for the gun again

The "is this not a meme game?" phase
35 - sheeps some votes
139 - starts thinking of how to strategically play the game
250 - can we just start shooting?

The "this is an actual game :facepalm: " phase
267 - thoughts on Toog
288 - pressuring me over a question I asked you
302 - pointing out that T3 has too many town reads, and asking him why he has not questioned it
322 - comes out with a town read on you
386 - starts to worry that if he gets the gun too late, compared to getting it super early, he could be the one to lose for the town
388 - starts pushing his scum read
391 - town reads you some more, and is worried that you are just lhf this game
:good: You get a townread!
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Post Post #426 (isolation #91) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:55 am

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In post 422, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 421, marcistar wrote:
In post 419, Lukewarm wrote:Doing isos, and enchant feels like someone who thought they were signing up for a meme game and just really wanted to get the gun so he could just shoot away, and then slowly realized that ~half the lobby was taking the game seriously, and has resigned himself to a proper mafia game
where
What do you mean, where? thats like the whole iso

There is the "this is a meme game " phase:
7 - votes for the confirmed town
23 - asks for the gun
26 - scum claims
31 - asks for the gun again

The "is this not a meme game?" phase
35 - sheeps some votes
139 - starts thinking of how to strategically play the game
250 - can we just start shooting?

The "this is an actual game :facepalm: " phase
267 - thoughts on Toog
288 - pressuring me over a question I asked you
302 - pointing out that T3 has too many town reads, and asking him why he has not questioned it
322 - comes out with a town read on you
386 - starts to worry that if he gets the gun too late, compared to getting it super early, he could be the one to lose for the town
388 - starts pushing his scum read
391 - town reads you some more, and is worried that you are just lhf this game
:good: You get a townread!
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Post Post #430 (isolation #92) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:38 am

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VOTE: hectic
UNIQUE
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Post Post #432 (isolation #93) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:59 am

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Yes.
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Post Post #436 (isolation #94) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 4:38 am

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In post 433, Hectic wrote:Explain?

You're trying to scare me into thinking an incorrect shot on you ends the game since you would mishoot me, aren't you?
You're attacking townread limbaits for terrible reasons.
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Post Post #443 (isolation #95) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:39 pm

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I'm not defending marci and I do scumread her. I would rather wait.
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Post Post #445 (isolation #96) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:55 pm

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No, it's me saying she hasn't exhibited a specific scumtell.
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Post Post #481 (isolation #97) » Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:55 am

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In post 470, Hectic wrote:
In post 468, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 466, Hectic wrote:
shrug
I can't shake the feeling

/ / /

^Should we just shoot T3 for these really awkward gunbearer pocket attempts?
The only pockety post I see in here is 61 if u can even call it a pocket. Other than that, I dont see how these are pockets, can you elobartae? Also if you're taking about gunbearer pockets, I direct your attention to luke :lol:
T3's buddying was more subtle than Luke's which makes it more suspicious

The definition I use for T3's pocketing here is excessively joking around with the gunbearer
I joke around with everyone.
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Post Post #484 (isolation #98) » Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:20 am

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Usually when I get townread or am conftown I get very lackluster.
To be honest, I don't know.
I still think Art is scum for a bull [*dolphins chittering*] case.
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Post Post #487 (isolation #99) » Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:41 am

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In post 486, marcistar wrote:t3 having an avatar = HACKED??? : O

t3 r u scum smhsmh
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Post Post #496 (isolation #100) » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:32 am

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In post 493, Toogeloo wrote:I'd like TO flipped, then if scum I'll say where I think they scum slipped a partner.

Or Galron can shoot me, and I'll rapid fire if I'm right
This is a sorry excuse to get me shot.
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Post Post #851 (isolation #101) » Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:04 am

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In post 840, HockeyFan wrote:The real mafia are the friends we made along the way
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Post Post #852 (isolation #102) » Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:04 am

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WRONG THREAD SORRY
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Post Post #1223 (isolation #103) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:15 am

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