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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:31 am

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Thanks for fixing…now I won’t have to draft Justin Tucker in the first :P
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:35 am

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I am not convinced that guy is best kicker in nfl.

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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:58 am

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In post 174, PokerFace wrote:I might not be in the division you outlined. my schedule has me playing circle the wagons, give tebow a chance, and mongolian khans twice. (Caboose, ????, Khan)

Who owns what team? I have no idea who owns give Tebow a chance
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:03 am

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I think we only decided on axing divisions for 10-team leagues. Pretty sure they’re being retained for L1 since we have 12.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:43 am

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In post 165, Nero Cain wrote:ranged scoring for kickers narrowly wins with 9 votes to 8
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I hope people enjoy this, it's unlikely to be much more than a feel-good novelty but now whoever drafts that Bengals kicker can enjoy extra points from all the 70-yard field goals he kicks
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:03 am

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Or Greg the Leg! Or whoever the Broncos have since their stadium is great for kicking…is it still McManus?
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:16 am

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In post 179, Kilgamayan wrote:
In post 165, Nero Cain wrote:ranged scoring for kickers narrowly wins with 9 votes to 8
:toot:

I hope people enjoy this, it's unlikely to be much more than a feel-good novelty but now whoever drafts that Bengals kicker can enjoy extra points from all the 70-yard field goals he kicks
i can't wait for everyone who voted for that to lose an important game by a fifth of a point because the opposing kicker is hits a field goal 2 yards too far
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:29 am

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In post 166, Nero Cain wrote:I sorta feel like this is a step in the wrong direction. Like we are all going to be starting 3 RBs and prob have a good 2 or 3 backups. That RB pool is gonna be thin. Even when we were starting 2 RBs with injuries and covid it felt very thin.
If the RB pool is so thin then people will turn to WRs, no? Especially with the PPR added
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:31 am

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In post 181, PJ. wrote:
In post 179, Kilgamayan wrote:
In post 165, Nero Cain wrote:ranged scoring for kickers narrowly wins with 9 votes to 8
:toot:

I hope people enjoy this, it's unlikely to be much more than a feel-good novelty but now whoever drafts that Bengals kicker can enjoy extra points from all the 70-yard field goals he kicks
i can't wait for everyone who voted for that to
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win an important game by a fifth of a point because
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:53 am

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In post 180, D3f3nd3r wrote:Or whoever the Broncos have since their stadium is great for kicking…is it still McManus?
I believe so!
In post 181, PJ. wrote:
In post 179, Kilgamayan wrote:
In post 165, Nero Cain wrote:ranged scoring for kickers narrowly wins with 9 votes to 8
:toot:

I hope people enjoy this, it's unlikely to be much more than a feel-good novelty but now whoever drafts that Bengals kicker can enjoy extra points from all the 70-yard field goals he kicks
i can't wait for everyone who voted for that to lose an important game by a fifth of a point because the opposing kicker is hits a field goal 2 yards to far
I am fully anticipating that this will happen to me at least once.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:38 am

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In post 176, PokerFace wrote:I am not convinced that guy is best kicker in nfl.

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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:39 am

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D3f3nd3r wrote:I think we only decided on axing divisions for 10-team leagues. Pretty sure they’re being retained for L1 since we have 12.
I believe D3 is correct. 12 teams having 3 divisions of 4 is good so that everyone plays everyone and gets more games in their divisions. If 10 teams occurs I voted that divisions were kinda bad from perspective of 6 teams of 10 in playoffs is dumb. 6 of 12 making is okay since 7 of 16 make it in nfl but over half does not seem right. Kinda feels like regular season does not matter as much as it should. And I think that discussion is why that was on the ballot.

How many teams are in league 2 anyway? If they have more than 10 they could probably keep divisions

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could you please update the first post to list divisions and teams with owners info?
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:52 am

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In post 185, Groose Caboose wrote:
In post 176, PokerFace wrote:I am not convinced that guy is best kicker in nfl.

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Ahh ok. Happy scum day. Is Nero "Give Tebow a chance"? So our division has 3 players that fought it out in League 2 last year? I guess I am fine with that if everyone else is. Cool way to preserve rivalries lol

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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:09 am

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tebow does deserve a chance, yes.
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:11 am

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In post 175, D3f3nd3r wrote:Thanks for fixing…now I won’t have to draft Justin Tucker in the first :P
the bucs drafted a kicker in the first round and it was the best thing they've ever done
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:17 am

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L2 has 12.
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I think it's weird that I can change the divisions but they don't show up on the main page but on the schedule editor I can see them. Maybe the new season has to begin for them to be on the front page.


but right now

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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:20 am

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In post 182, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 166, Nero Cain wrote:I sorta feel like this is a step in the wrong direction. Like we are all going to be starting 3 RBs and prob have a good 2 or 3 backups. That RB pool is gonna be thin. Even when we were starting 2 RBs with injuries and covid it felt very thin.
If the RB pool is so thin then people will turn to WRs, no? Especially with the PPR added
Well yes but more times than not I think an RB might score higher than a WR or TE so it just becomes who has the better/healthy RBs but we'll see how things go.
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:52 am

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In post 191, Nero Cain wrote:Well yes but more times than not I think an RB might score higher than a WR or TE so it just becomes who has the better/healthy RBs but we'll see how things go.
This is literally just fantasy football. Best ability is availability.

(BTW in half ppr, rb/wr scoring evens out at about 10 in half ppr and actually massively goes the other direction by 20)
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:06 am

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In post 192, PJ. wrote:
In post 191, Nero Cain wrote:Well yes but more times than not I think an RB might score higher than a WR or TE so it just becomes who has the better/healthy RBs but we'll see how things go.
This is literally just fantasy football. Best ability is availability.

(BTW in half ppr, rb/wr scoring evens out at about 10 in half ppr and actually massively goes the other direction by 20)
^^ This, also why I love ppr because rbs are so injury prone. RBs will always be important anyways but without PPR it just feels like the RB lottery (mixon > godwin last year??)
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:19 am

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In post 193, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 192, PJ. wrote:
In post 191, Nero Cain wrote:Well yes but more times than not I think an RB might score higher than a WR or TE so it just becomes who has the better/healthy RBs but we'll see how things go.
This is literally just fantasy football. Best ability is availability.

(BTW in half ppr, rb/wr scoring evens out at about 10 in half ppr and actually massively goes the other direction by 20)
^^ This, also why I love ppr because rbs are so injury prone. RBs will always be important anyways but without PPR it just feels like the RB lottery (mixon > godwin last year??)
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:42 am

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Even in standard it evens out by 20, which is ~the starters line before a 3rd wr or a flex. The biggest benefit of ppr is evening out the top end vs standard. Top rb outscored the top 3 rbs in half ppr were 336, 324, and 316. WRs were 301, 285, 265.

In standard it's 314, 294,294 vs 243, 241, and 202

This is liie..literally why I don't understand why you'd not want ppr but complain about the rb pool being too thin in a flex league.
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:05 am

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Just go RB/RB in the first two rounds and don’t worry about it

(Or alternatively please don’t because I don’t want to have to go WR/WR when there are no good RBs at the turn)
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:02 am

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In post 190, Nero Cain wrote:L2 has 12
We have 13
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:27 am

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In post 196, D3f3nd3r wrote:Just go RB/RB in the first two rounds and don’t worry about it

(Or alternatively please don’t because I don’t want to have to go WR/WR when there are no good RBs at the turn)
Terrible advice. Only way to win nowadays is grabbing the best K and D/ST in the first 2 rounds
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:13 pm

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Panzerjager wrote:Even in standard it evens out by 20, which is ~the starters line before a 3rd wr or a flex. The biggest benefit of ppr is evening out the top end vs standard. Top rb outscored the top 3 rbs in half ppr were 336, 324, and 316. WRs were 301, 285, 265.

In standard it's 314, 294,294 vs 243, 241, and 202

This is like..literally why I don't understand why you'd not want ppr but complain about the rb pool being too thin in a flex league.
I didn't realize it was that different. I will change my vote next season if you are right. Probably too late to change now
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