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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:36 am

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Hello folks

and long time old buddies

VOTE: DGB
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Post Post #22 (isolation #1) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:37 am

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In post 6, Dwlee99 wrote:I noticed that the site meta has changed over time.

It used to be that power roles were helpful to the town, and that claims helped solve the game. This is no longer true.

I just finished playing Sybil's Elegy which was a great example of the role distribution being designed to confuse at best, and F up at worse, the town. I have played others with similar anti-town mod shenanigans.

Here's the deal.


We should not claim, ever.
Treating the game as mountainous will increase our chances of winning.

What we should do (and I include vanilla townies) is to crumb our night choices somehow BEFORE the night. Vanilla townies must crumb fake targets.

When you're dead, and we know your role and alignment, we can go back and use the crumbs for the solve.

Solving games by way of RESULTS and CLAIMED ROLES will not work. It just doesn't work anymore.

VOTE: DGB
But who is proposing for role claims? or are you saying it in general?
In post 13, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Nero Cain you're acting suspiciously absently and non-presency. Looks like you're scum by meta.
VOTE: Nero Cain
I approve this. Lets go with it.

VOTE: Nero Cain
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Post Post #792 (isolation #2) » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:17 pm

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Sorry was away for the weekend.

Will catch up today
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Post Post #884 (isolation #3) » Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:17 am

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In post 627, LicketyQuickety wrote:I feel like I want to go here now:

VOTE: ArcAngel9
But why, i am hardly here. i was away over the weekend. How am I scummy ?
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Post Post #887 (isolation #4) » Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:24 am

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In post 885, DrippingGoofball wrote:That's how we end up with non-participating conftowns...
I am town dear. What about you?
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Post Post #919 (isolation #5) » Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:34 am

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Sorry about my inactivity. I was away on weekend. It's been one hell of a busy day.

I will try readings some of it today and I can guarantee that I will be active from tomorrow onwards.
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Post Post #1467 (isolation #6) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:39 am

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Hello folks

Oh boie 50 pages. I am back from today. Let me skim through what i can!!
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Post Post #1471 (isolation #7) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 6:11 am

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First 5 pages, too much of focus on T3 meta.
I also have my 2 cents there on T3 meta. He will definitely lurks as scum!

Cheeky teeky and Roden look decent so far.

And DGB, You should definitely be proud of being a veteran in MafiaScum. I miss our Pictionary games! you are so talented. :)

Not liking Nero OMGUS vote on Roden, Cmon nero you could handle some pressure. cant you?

6to10 pages

I have an issue with Rodent post on check my scum Meta, because it is one of those moments people say things like "check my meta", does things exactly opposite to their meta.

MegAzumarill pretty quicly townread Gamma. That doesn't sit well at all.

Nero romancing with shrek? Is that correct? Why he is so fluffy nero?

Testarossa - welcome post is so bad!! Not surprised to see quick vote shifts.

Not a fan of Shrek post about how he moved his vote from nero to TR.

Lickety good call to vote on Shrek.

Shrek post #177 is very fishy, All their reasons to lean town mostly basis on tvt conversation or how people asked the right questions. They don't sound solid town reads to me!!

Good point from cheecky to sherk on post #193, It seems Shrek added people who are easygoing as their townmates as they won't ask many reasons for being read as the town.

Cheeky completely misunderstood Nero's meta. He is never aggressive regardless of his faction.

Dragon asked some intriguing questions.
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Post Post #1474 (isolation #8) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 6:48 am

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11 to 20 pages


Is almost50 seriously a double voter?
I wonder what made dragon read LQ As scum in his post #256
Nero post #281, He is just trolling with the town.
Cant agree with Cheeky on post #289, how quickly those town reads were developed, especially on Gamma. What about the scum reads?

There is too much read so far in this game. Like everyone go some meta shit going on.

Cheeky scumreading Nero based on their own META on him.
Norw townreading cheeky based on their scum game
Roden townreading Mega based on past game. ( i agree on the read on MEga and dont know anything about meta)

I am unclear with the part why Nero scum reading Mega especially when there are so many others looked lot more scummy than Mega.

Cheeky post #396 is the second time they are pushing town read on gamma. Not a fan of it this slot anymore.

T3 town block looks like a convenient list.

21 to 30 pages


I like DGB reads, they seem logical and leaning town on her.

HUGE OMGUS From Cheeky, why so insecure?

Not liking Dwlee post #533, they only appeared to push on T3.

I like almost 50, their post #547 gives it all. That looks like it came from the heart of a townie.

I agree with Roden post #576 except about STD.

Dwlee99 , very lame reason for not to contribute into game or rejecting to see other possibilities. (post#582) Leaning scum there!

that testrosa wagon was built fast. not that i deny it though.
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Post Post #1475 (isolation #9) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 6:50 am

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In post 1472, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Arcangel that sort of catchup is extremely annoying. I don't see the context and it's hard to understand if you actually have anything to say about the games currents circumstances other than making remarks about the first pages like an football commentator.

Sorry, it is such an inconvenience to you but I wanted to make up for the lost time. Early game reads will have some strong impressions on how we see a slot. Especially how people change their opinions and read over time. the early reads really contribute me how I sort town and scum reads.
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Post Post #1479 (isolation #10) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:29 am

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31 to 60

Post 836 is very confusing. IS there a town mason? How did i miss that?
Shrek catch post #839 looks unnecessarily long with big changes from this previous post.

Almost 50 is right about me about my play in sirus game. I was a lousy town player. I promoised myself to change that.

Not fan of Shrek opinion about policy eliminate inactivie players. If youre a townie, you should ask or pressure them to play but not policy eliminate them. It will hurt town becaust most inactive players turned out to be town.

I agree with Nero at 916

Isn't T3 lurking over pressure is his scum meta cheeky?

I have been a victim of nero scum play DGB but i feel he is probably town here!

STD - where are your reasons to indicate dwlee is town?

Gamma push on nero seems desperate.

there is been a hell of a change in the Shrek game from the first few pages to post #1125. I agree with them there about Mega, it's a slot we must look at.

I laughed so hard reading post # 1182 & 1184, the irony and truth is almost balancing.

Wow, that T3 post about Gamma, how could be he so sure? I wonder what does he know.
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Post Post #1480 (isolation #11) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:32 am

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Sorted the reads with quick labels:

Roden - lean town
Almost50 - lean town
DrippingGoofball - lean town
Nero Cain - lean town
CheekyTeeky - probably town
LicketyQuickety - lean town but dropped to probably town
Dragon of the West - probably town
MegAzumarill - probably town

NorwegianboyEE - null
KittyTacky - Null
Save The Dragons - Null read


T3 - Probably Scum
Gamma Emerald - Probably scum
Dwlee99 - lean scum
Testarossa - probably scum



Shrek - probably scum
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Post Post #1481 (isolation #12) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:35 am

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Given the game has gone already so long and beyond the ability to tolerate it anymore. I suggest we should move forward with ending day 1

I would like to go with anyone from the pool of T3, Dwele, and Gamma.

My read on Shrek is improved so I want to observe them more.

with that said!! Since I badly want to end the day and T3 made a massive claim about Gamma (assuming he does know something there.)

VOTE: Gamma

Thats E-1 btw!!!
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Post Post #1485 (isolation #13) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:41 am

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In post 1482, Shrek wrote:im really confused as to how you can see both t3 and gamma as scum and then think that mega is town. really weird leaps in logic imo

Both lean scum to me. T3 more from meta and Gamma more from his gameplay.

And as for Mega, I did pay attention to your point about how his slot is now laid back after bringing a few questions to the table. I am not completely ignoring them. My town read is based on my earlier read on them which could change based on how they respond in the future.

I believe that this game needs to move. because a lot was said in a short time. My eyes are bleeding and don't want to listen to it anymore. I need some changes, it will bring a bit more clarity to the game.
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Post Post #1488 (isolation #14) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:45 am

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In post 1486, Nero Cain wrote:How can my fued last for hundreds of pages when we aren't even at a hundred pages :P
I will open a petition for a post restriction for you Nero! you were everywhere in this game.
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Post Post #1561 (isolation #15) » Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:17 am

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I have seen T3 as town self hammered in the past.

i still prefer Gamma over T3

Gamma - why is T3 scum over you?
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Post Post #1849 (isolation #16) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:45 am

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In post 1602, Dwlee99 wrote:Stop self-hammering if you're town ffs.
T3 has done this in the past. I have said it but nobody listened to me.
In post 1605, Nero Cain wrote:Pretty ez to have correct reads when u know everyone's alignment
LoL. Very true!
In post 1606, Dwlee99 wrote:I'd say that not reading the context and jumping to conclusions on random stuff is scummy but I see town do it a lot
Your slot was reading scum. Did you read the day 1 so far?
In post 1608, Save The Dragons wrote:VOTE: gamma
I agree! But let's jump the guns already! I want to study this day a bit longer!
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Post Post #1855 (isolation #17) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:28 am

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In post 1625, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1617, Nero Cain wrote:I very much disagree that my play has been "despicable"
You are shitpushing me with no regard for actual fucking logic or fairness. In your last posts D1 you were painting me as T3’s possible buddy, and now you’re trying to flip the script and say I knew T3 was town all along. It’s not an okay way to play, and I’m straight up sick of your shit because it seems like you always have something against me.
Forget Nero. T3 is gone so who do you think is scum now?
In post 1630, CheekyTeeky wrote:VOTE: STD
Context would help!
In post 1631, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1626, Nero Cain wrote:Ok gamma, dw is scum. Who are the rest?
MegA for sure, StD probably, and idk who the fourth is
What do you think of Shrek?
In post 1676, Shrek wrote:wow that was not who i was expecting

ANYWAYS i think we should be looking at these slots more today:

mega - literally self explanatory. disappeared for half the last phase after not tryin to scumsolve at all and i wouldnt mind him flipping today

arcangel - i dont like her eod reads on the game, they feel incredibly rushed and contradictory considering her reasons to tr someone at one point are the reasons to sr another.

testarossa - also self explanatory. if cyrus doesnt come in and post then this or mega is probs where im voting

a50 - a50 has made a remarkable attempt to look busy, but most if not all of his posts are just pure reactions and random images which he's tryin to paint as 'contributions'

dwlee - i was thinking that this is how town dwlee plays since we were together in my first game, but atm im not sure how to read him. if he contributes more to the game today i think ill be fine with him

right now, me/cheeky/lq/nero/possibly roden is the townbloc that i feel most comfortable with. i also wouldnt be opposed to dotw joining that because hes been relatively proactive in trying to find out who the scum are
This sounds like exactly what scum would react after the night kill. You were norw top scum read. Did you kill him for scum reading you?

VOTE: Shrek
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Post Post #1856 (isolation #18) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:30 am

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In post 1677, Shrek wrote:cheeky is not scum wtf are you smoking
this is blatant. Why don't you add some context to your town reads.
In post 1676, Shrek wrote:wow that was not who i was expecting
dwlee - i was thinking that this is how town dwlee plays since we were together in my first game, but atm im not sure how to read him. if he contributes more to the game today i think ill be fine with him

right now, me/cheeky/lq/nero/possibly roden is the townbloc that i feel most comfortable with. i also wouldnt be opposed to dotw joining that because hes been relatively proactive in trying to find out who the scum are
Dwlee hardly said anything, how did you compare his game as the town game?
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Post Post #1857 (isolation #19) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:33 am

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In post 1700, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1696, Shrek wrote:
In post 1689, LicketyQuickety wrote:I only have one game Day of data, but it's pointing to these players:

A50
Kitty
Arc
DotW

So take that fwiw.

Now,

If we flip Gamma and they flip Scum, I think that clears:

DGB
Shrek

And to a lesser degree:

StD
Roden
whats wrong with dotw? i think mega would be a much more fitting replacement
Because DotW has zero non-associatives. But beyond Mega's high number on non-associatives with Nero, which indicates it's either TvT or TvS, I could see Mega as Scum here (according to my system).

The first list is just people to look at today and see what kind of content they give us today. It does not guarantee they are Scum, just lightly points in that direction. I feel like Arc is the worst out of this list based on play which is why I am voting there currently.
Why am I the worst? I read you town but i still dont know your reason to scum read me.
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Post Post #1858 (isolation #20) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:41 am

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In post 1702, Shrek wrote:tbh i can agree with an arc flip today. not opposed to anyone outside of the townbloc i have atm.
SCUM!
In post 1704, Nero Cain wrote:I think gamma would still be plenty of capable of making that play as scum.
For the love of god, Forget Gamma and focus on others, please.
In post 1719, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ok.

VOTE: MegA
At the time of this post, he wasn't even that active.
In post 1724, CheekyTeeky wrote:Gamma is Nero town?
this statement is grammatically wrong!
In post 1733, Shrek wrote:VOTE: Mega

im also happy with this
Its amusing how you're scum reading all the weak or inactive players and town reading most active players. looks convenient to look town.
In post 1740, Shrek wrote:yeah thats what i was saying. i think most of the scum are off the wagon for easy towncred despite t3 making himself stick out like a sore thumb all of d1. std why did you townread t3 again?

This sounds like you're building a justification for your jump into T3 wagon at the last minute.
also my opinion of the NK is that scum just went after someone who was consensus townread and wasnt getting any heat at all to prevent us from getting info on people by proxy
In post 1742, CheekyTeeky wrote:I feel like the final wagon happened so fast and quickly that there's min 2 scum on it.
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Post Post #1859 (isolation #21) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:43 am

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Damn, I messed up the quotes in the end. Here you go!
In post 1740, Shrek wrote:yeah thats what i was saying. i think most of the scum are off the wagon for easy towncred despite t3 making himself stick out like a sore thumb all of d1. std why did you townread t3 again?

also my opinion of the NK is that scum just went after someone who was consensus townread and wasnt getting any heat at all to prevent us from getting info on people by proxy
This sounds like you're building a justification for your jump into T3 wagon at the last minute.
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Post Post #1861 (isolation #22) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 4:14 am

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In post 1762, MegAzumarill wrote:I think Kitty is the best elimination here.

This is their entire day 1:
They have at best a few one line posts about the game that end up being inconclusive or just a semi relevant question at best, until the T3 wagon gains steam. Then they join the reason for a parroted reason, continue pushing T3 but put a scumlean on Gamma.

It reeks of scum trying to distance themselves from a mislynch and set up a mislim on Gamma the next day when T3 flips town.
Inactivity isn't a scum tell. Do you have other reasons?
In post 1771, Dwlee99 wrote:Mega/Arc???/Cyrus !!!
Is this supposed to mean something? Did you read the game?
In post 1818, KittyTacky wrote:T3 was a push by town as far as I can read it. He self-destructed is all. Any scum on the wagon just followed along.

So who do you think is scum in T3 wagon?
In post 1820, DrippingGoofball wrote:I have a guilty result.
Spit it out!
In post 1822, DrippingGoofball wrote:I am a 1-shot Loyal Neighborizer.

Normally I would have gunned for a scumread but because I was under fire yesterday I decided to target someone with more town cred than me (but not a likely NK target). I was hoping to gain a partner help conftown me and be useful during day chat.

My action was successful but here I am without a Neighbor or PT.

Guess who is widely town read, but is in fact Scummy McScummerson?
this sounds made up to me!
In post 1845, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 1844, DrippingGoofball wrote:DIE SCUM DIE
I still don't see who you actually targeted. Honestly this reads more like scum getting mad at a botched fakeclaim getting exposed.
VOTE: DGB
There is another possibility that she might be faking it to test who would fall for it and you did!!
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Post Post #1862 (isolation #23) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 4:15 am

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In post 1860, DrippingGoofball wrote:aRrrrrRrrrRrRRRRRRight

ArcAngel is town. Look at her join date... I've played many games with her.
That I am!
Yes, we had played many fun games. I enjoyed our pictionary games the most!!
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Post Post #1871 (isolation #24) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 4:49 am

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In post 1866, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1860, DrippingGoofball wrote:aRrrrrRrrrRrRRRRRRight

ArcAngel is town. Look at her join date... I've played many games with her.
Why? Generally her play does seem to match her towngame but the way she is going after Shrek feels no bueno
What is my town game Gamma ? Wanna bet?
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Post Post #1874 (isolation #25) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 4:50 am

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In post 1863, Shrek wrote:lolwut. norwe was townreading me lmao
Not at first. And it doesn't mean that your response is geniune.
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Post Post #1880 (isolation #26) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:07 am

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In post 1869, Shrek wrote:would you look at this. besides me everyone on null or scum is a ‘weak or inactive player’ and everyone town is active
Ironic that you call that I target weak while you pulled the same reasons on me. Hypocrite.
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Post Post #1884 (isolation #27) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:11 am

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In post 1876, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1871, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 1866, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1860, DrippingGoofball wrote:aRrrrrRrrrRrRRRRRRight

ArcAngel is town. Look at her join date... I've played many games with her.
Why? Generally her play does seem to match her towngame but the way she is going after Shrek feels no bueno
What is my town game Gamma ? Wanna bet?
Lol what’s with the backlash?
I’m mostly basing my statement on what I saw in the mystics micro and LN 234
Is that the only game that you could reference as my town game. What about over 60+ games i played on MS. I was rolled as a town for more than 80% of games. Are you saying that what you observed in LN 234 is similar to all the other town games i have played?
In post 1854, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1849, ArcAngel9 wrote:Your slot was reading scum. Did you read the day 1 so far?
I don't understand
What is that you don't understand!
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Post Post #1886 (isolation #28) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:29 am

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In post 1883, Shrek wrote:also you literally just admitted that youre targeting weak players
I did. For the fact that you're shifting my words proves that you're scum.
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Post Post #1891 (isolation #29) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:47 am

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In post 1886, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 1883, Shrek wrote:also you literally just admitted that youre targeting weak players
I did. For the fact that you're shifting my words proves that you're scum.
I meant to say didn't!!
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Post Post #1892 (isolation #30) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:48 am

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In post 1888, Nero Cain wrote:No
Yes
Weak
Weak
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Inactive
You need to go inactive. You're not helping with the scum hunt.
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Post Post #1896 (isolation #31) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:56 am

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In post 1893, Shrek wrote:
In post 1880, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 1869, Shrek wrote:would you look at this. besides me everyone on null or scum is a ‘weak or inactive player’ and everyone town is active
Ironic that you call that I target weak while you pulled the same reasons on me. Hypocrite.
2/3 of your null reads are weak while your scum reads are the three wagons that day + me and dwlee
The real problem exists when I read null as scum. Not when I read null as null.

Am I voting anyone those null/weak? Am I voting for you?

In case you forgot or ignored this (which i believe you did it intentionally)


VOTE: Shrek
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Post Post #1908 (isolation #32) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 6:57 am

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In post 1897, Shrek wrote:you're literally ignoring half of what i post what.

and no i did not ignore or forget that. i just think it would be stupid to engage in a gladiator match with you when youre not even my top scumread. idk what you want me to do lmao
I am not. are you saying that you're not scum reading because i was inactive or weak?
In post 1898, Shrek wrote:although i'm going to start ignoring you because at this point its like talking to a brick wall
Now you're creating an escape route to answer my questions. Nice orchestrated excuse!
In post 1899, Nero Cain wrote:Yea ok angel, I'm not "helping" tbf I don't think there's enough info to solve yet but it's not like I haven't been contributeing also gamma isn't like conf town or anything so...
Yes, he isn't but he isn't the only person in the game. I want your opinion on Shrek!
In post 1903, Nero Cain wrote:Unless u want to argue that dgb is scum that's fake claiming a gulity to like save mega or something
why would scum DGB do something like that. It is highly unlikely, and to mention its a stupid move for scum.

and more importantly Mega is nowhere close to getting lynched.
In post 1905, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1848, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1839, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1833, Dwlee99 wrote:Are you also a checker? That isn't how NRG works on loyal.
I received no acknowledgement of my action, I thought the mod might have made a mistake, so I asked.

You remind me of scum!MathBlade casting doubt on my cop-guilty result in another game. Are you scum, Dwlee?
The mod can't tell you if your action succeeded, only if it was received.

I'm not "casting doubt" I'm getting clarification because the way you described it is not how it works. If you knew your action succeeded it goes to a hard guilty instead of a soft guilty (cause the action could have been roleblocked)
My bad. I made a mistake in my interpretation.

The link to the neighborhood PT was in my role PM, which I did not notice.

I was expecting to receive a message from the mod regarding my action in the game morn, with a PT if successful (i had forgotten there was already a PT).

The mod did not understand why I was confused in my messages so we were communicating at cross-purposes for while.

So, sigh, now I have to explain that my action succeeded in the sense that the player i targeted was added to that PT (which i didn't notice because i had forgotten its existence) and is in fact town.

If you didn't ask so many questions it could have been a great accidental gambit :lol:

I'd probably speed-raptured for this but luckily there is a player that can vouch for me.
A serious question DGB. Even if this is true, Why did you claim at first place? what's the point of this.
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Post Post #1916 (isolation #33) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:15 am

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In post 1911, Nero Cain wrote:Shrek was one of my original scum reads. I thought his early game was content less and fluffy. I also really hated his argument that we should eliminate the inactives. There was also a post d1 where he sorta ignores what's going on and wants to go elsewhere. I've gotten scum killed for a similar post. His hard town reading me could just be placating. At any rate I think he's a bit down my totem pole but if he were to even flip scum I'm claiming the cred.
Then help me eliminate the scum.

Vote shrek!
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Post Post #1923 (isolation #34) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:54 am

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In post 1922, LicketyQuickety wrote:And distract the Dwlee/Gamma stuff? Other people were talked about as well, such as Mega, StD, Arc, Kitty. Not like I was planning that, but I was sorta unsure if DGB is Town or not. I am still not 100% sure they are. I'm about 75% sure. IDK why he would want to start a hood with me of all people. And I asked the mod if it was guaranteed that the Neighborizer was Town and at first I got a response like, "don't know yet" or something like that, and then the mod confirmed that it's not a guarantee they are Town.
It's a possiblity. I do have my doubts. Because DBZ says it is a loyal Neighborizer, I heard of Neighborizer and friendly neighbour but not loyal.

@MOD

Can you please confirm if the game can have roles that are not part/listed in the Mafiascum wiki page
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... rmal_roles
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Post Post #1929 (isolation #35) » Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:09 am

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In post 1927, LicketyQuickety wrote:ormal modifiers:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... _modifiers

I don't believe whatever it is you think you are doing rn.
Dang. i never saw this loyal thing till now.
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Post Post #2345 (isolation #36) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:31 pm

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In post 1932, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1930, Nero Cain wrote:Loyal/disloyal seem like relatively new
Nope. I really don't think so. I think Loyal modifier was in place even last time i played (like a year ago). I don't really buy Arc's derp and I don't really buy DGB's derp.
In post 1934, Nero Cain wrote:Arc really has not played in awhile, not counting last game
In post 1933, Dwlee99 wrote:Loyal/disloyal have been a thing for three years now
I was last active on MS sometime in 2018. I have been away for a very long. I might have popped in for a game or too but I haven't played mafia for a very long time until now.
So when i said I didn't hear loyal Neighborizer. I was being honest.
In post 1938, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 1481, ArcAngel9 wrote:My read on Shrek is improved so I want to observe them more.
AA9 can you talk about why you felt better here and then went back to scumreading them today?
In post 1941, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 1855, ArcAngel9 wrote:This sounds like exactly what scum would react after the night kill
I'm not sure what you mean here?
You have already answered the first post. It's the way they reacted to norw death, I got a negative vibe in their tone. It's like how scum would come back and pretend like that wasn't the expected outcome. And also their whole weak/inactive players logic and tried to twist it around me. None of it is sitting well to me. They are my strong scum read.
In post 2018, Roden wrote:
In post 1993, CheekyTeeky wrote:StD/Gamma scumreading each other but not really pushing is interesting.
That's because it's probably theatre.

Arc is also trying to hard shift the wagon off of Mega by attacking Shrek. Idk why or how her read on him flipped so easily, but it pinged me hard that it happened right as DGB started claiming a guilty check on a town read player.

Dwlee had no response to my read on them besides "that's meta" and "I didn't hop wagons" which uh, isn't a particularly solid rebuttal.

Cyrus is currently spewing scum, so I'm kinda sad I gave Testa a chance yesterday.

I'm thinking the scum team consists of some combination of {StD/Gamma/Arc/Mega/Dwlee/Cyrus}, and at this point we absolutely need to boot either StD Mega or Cyrus.

For now I'm at VOTE: Cyrus
the only wagon that I am currently confident about is "Shrek", I said no to T3 wagon yesterday but nobody listened and i was right about what i said about T3 self hammer behavior is town indicative.

And i have a feeling that Mega wagon could be similar. I don't know much about him , he was all active at the beginning and then went away and then back during pressure and still nothing has changed after that. At this time, I put him null because i rather want to eliminate from my scum read pool.

and also on the other hand Cyrus may be not a bad idea. I can compromise but i still prefer Shrek.
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Post Post #2360 (isolation #37) » Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:14 pm

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In post 2038, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2033, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1820, DrippingGoofball wrote:I have a guilty result.
Waiting... waiting.. waiting... w-a-i-t-i-n-g
He said later he made a mistake. He said he was Town Loyal Neighborizer. He had me join his hood and it worked. He said he misread something because the hood was created before he recruited someone. So it was premade, and he was expecting an alert or something, which he didn't get. The he saw that his hood worked. So I'm clear regardless of if DGB is actually Town here or not unless you want to tinfoil that DGB and I are both Scum.
Not necessarily there is another possibility. You and DGB both could be scum and faking all of this.
In post 2074, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: dgb you have the worse play here . its like look at me i can post a bunch of tiny witter post and try to look town your lamest anit going fly with me.
This is bad cyrus, especially from your slot because your prior really screwed up and this town was ready to eliminate them him and you replaced him into that role. You will need to show more to convince or take yourself seriously in this game.

In post 2162, Nero Cain wrote:I think 1x have existed in a large but 1x is also an ez fake claim for scum to make. Not impossible that dbg fake claims in the thread and real claims to lq.
often PRS do lie about their no of shots to ensure that they dont night lkilled by scum master.
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Post Post #2764 (isolation #38) » Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:07 pm

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In post 2726, Roden wrote:I'm so confused?

Cheeky checked DGB and got no result.

Shrek checked DGB and got no result.

DGB checked Shrek and got no result.

How does any of that make any sense?
Ha ha ha... we know now that there is scum in there. and it is most likely Shrek.
In post 2731, Shrek wrote:i mean i didnt get a result back so idk what he is. you tell me.
then your claim makes no sense.
In post 2736, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2731, Shrek wrote:i mean i didnt get a result back so idk what he is. you tell me.
Shrek claim makes the least sense. If he flips green can go DGB, but pretty sure he flips red now.
I second it.
In post 2738, Dwlee99 wrote:They are not the same.

No result = action failed (rolestopper or ascetic or blocked etc.)

"Your target did not visit anyone" = what it sayd
lets go with this

VOTE: shrek
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Post Post #2850 (isolation #39) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:31 am

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In post 2792, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2746, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2720, Shrek wrote:fuck it ill claim but just to stop the gladiating

cheeky dgb isnt ascetic. im a tracker and dgb didnt perform an action last night which means it was either rbed or is lying about what it is
In post 2737, Shrek wrote:
In post 2735, Dwlee99 wrote:Shrek did you get no result or no action?
i got no result back. are they not the same thing?
Scum lying, these posts contradict each other. You played well though bruv, don't feel bad.
My vote is on Shrek in spirit. I just don't want to accidentally hammer before I catch up
This doesn't look like town at all!!!! ummm... :neutral:
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Post Post #3551 (isolation #40) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 5:15 am

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MOD - I am V/LA until Monday night
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Post Post #3733 (isolation #41) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:09 am

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VOTE: Shrek
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Post Post #3734 (isolation #42) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:09 am

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Thats hammer!!!
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Post Post #3748 (isolation #43) » Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:56 am

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so who ever DBG neighbors they will be confirmed in case they are town? Is that the theory?
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Post Post #3749 (isolation #44) » Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:57 am

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DBG - So who is your Night 4 target and they didn't get added to the PT
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Post Post #3873 (isolation #45) » Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:40 pm

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In post 3760, CheekyTeeky wrote:Yep my action didn't fail. I targeted Cat Scratch Fever and noone targeted them. Killer is a ninja.

DoTW how do you know I had a result rather than a fail?
Why do you think scum chose cat scratch fever over you to kill? Isn't you that they should be worry about ?
In post 3762, Nero Cain wrote:Or you were the one that did the killing last night and you can't claim a gulity on yourself
I have same doubts.
In post 3803, Almost50 wrote:I am not fully awake to work out this mess, but I think the game is in the bag mechanically. I just need to be fully awake to connect the dots, so don't do anything rash. Thanks
Almost50 doesn't seem town to me anymore!
In post 3811, Nero Cain wrote:Thoughts on massclaim?
Not yet.
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Post Post #3879 (isolation #46) » Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:43 pm

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I need to see the case against roden in one post. Can someone help with it on why he is scum?
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Post Post #3912 (isolation #47) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:34 am

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In post 3904, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3873, ArcAngel9 wrote:Why do you think scum chose cat scratch fever over you to kill? Isn't you that they should be worry about ?
Did you end up reading the answer to your question in my later posts?
No where is it?
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Post Post #3913 (isolation #48) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:34 am

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In post 3911, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3900, Nero Cain wrote:2 more votes for a scum flip
Please do not rush the lim before DGB gets to claim results
I second.
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Post Post #3950 (isolation #49) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:34 am

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In post 3930, CheekyTeeky wrote:N1 target Gamma - noone targeted them.
N2 target DGB - action failed.
N3 target Dwlee - action failed.
N4 target Cat Scratch Fever- noone targeted them.

Fake! or very convenient

VOTE: Cheeky That's E-1.
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Post Post #3962 (isolation #50) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:18 am

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Almost what about your other night actions?
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Post Post #3963 (isolation #51) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:19 am

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In post 3961, Gamma Emerald wrote:UNVOTE:
WHAT IS GOING ON
Scum fake claims... there is no way that all that is said could be right. there is definite scum in there!

Almost50 and Cheeky - One of them is scum for sure!
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Post Post #3964 (isolation #52) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:20 am

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Actually, that claim is bull crap!


VOTE: Alomst50
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Post Post #3967 (isolation #53) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:23 am

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In post 3966, Gamma Emerald wrote:if it turns out cheeky isn't guilty I'm voting Arc because her play these last two day phases has been scummy as f
What? what is that i did was scummy?
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Post Post #3970 (isolation #54) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:25 am

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In post 3966, Gamma Emerald wrote:if it turns out cheeky isn't guilty I'm voting Arc because her play these last two day phases has been scummy as f
You're so naive to believe that cheeky has no results for the remaining days and Almost50 conveniently spoke about his jail keep on cheeky to support no night kill case.

Do you believe this is all real??
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Post Post #3971 (isolation #55) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:26 am

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In post 3969, DrippingGoofball wrote:I believe A50.
Why... I cant!
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Post Post #3980 (isolation #56) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:34 am

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In post 3972, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3967, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 3966, Gamma Emerald wrote:if it turns out cheeky isn't guilty I'm voting Arc because her play these last two day phases has been scummy as f
What? what is that i did was scummy?
the way you're trying to target the claims and the way you hammered Shrek both ping the hell out of me
the kill n3 was stopped some way, so unless you want to counterclaim A50 or have a reason why scum no-killed I'm inclined to believe A50
Fine. Since this will have to happen eventually. I spare myself form the horrors.

I am targetting the claims because i am the town doctor. I protected LQ on night 3. There is no fucking way that town can have both doctor and Jail Keeper.

Night 1 - Protected Nero (Because he was my strong read)
Night 2 - Protected DGB (Because of her claim)
Night 3 - Protected LQ/Cat (she was added the DGB neighbour PT and almost confirmed town)
Night 4 - Protected Roden (Because he was in my strong town read, the reason why i am asking today why nero thinks he is scum)

Hence, It makes be to unbelieve the Almost50 claim. Its fake as hell!!!!!
In post 3973, Nero Cain wrote:Are there actually 3 scum in this game or something?
No, there are at least 4.
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Post Post #3982 (isolation #57) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:35 am

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In post 3977, Almost50 wrote:
In post 3873, ArcAngel9 wrote:Almost50 doesn't seem town to me anymore!
Anymore??? Did you ever TR me to start with?
Dont pull that crap.. I know you're scum!!
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Post Post #3984 (isolation #58) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:36 am

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In post 3981, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: roden
Vote Almost50 Gamma..... :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Post Post #3990 (isolation #59) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:38 am

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No need. Almost is confirmed scum.. Lets go with it.
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Post Post #3995 (isolation #60) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:39 am

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In post 3988, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3979, Nero Cain wrote:I am a strongman finder. N1 I got no result on a50, n2 was gamma he wasn't a strongman Wich means a50 might be lying about targeting me. N3 was Shrek and n4 was roden who is a strongman. I'm assuming that roden does the kill so either cheeky is lying or they switched it up and had her do it. Thus I am assuming that scum is roden/cheeky but now the new Poe might be roden cheeky a50 dotw
VOTE: Roden
Tomorrow is a50.

Scum will kill me tonight. I don't believe either Cheeky or almost50 claims.
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Post Post #3999 (isolation #61) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:41 am

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In post 3993, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3990, ArcAngel9 wrote:No need. Almost is confirmed scum.. Lets go with it.
to you sure
I don't have the privilege of your POV
Why do you think i risk counterclaim. Town is doing good this game.. as i scum i have less reason to counter the claim.

I am claiming because as town we have caught 3rd scum that takes us first step closer to the victory!
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Post Post #4004 (isolation #62) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:43 am

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In post 3997, DrippingGoofball wrote:Bodyguard, ungated JK and ungated doctor...

AA9 is so over-the-top indignant that I tend to believe her over A50.
For the fact, A50 didn't reveal his targets means that he doesn't have one and he will need to fabricate a story around it.

More reasons to believe why his claim is fake!!!

Eliminate him today and you can eliminate anyone else tomorrow. I will be night killed anyway!
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Post Post #4006 (isolation #63) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:44 am

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In post 4002, Gamma Emerald wrote:JK + BG feels more synergistic than Doc + BG
but as I said, we have a 100% scum flip so we just do that
Who is that 100% scum flip?
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Post Post #4011 (isolation #64) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:46 am

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In post 4005, Dwlee99 wrote:Aa9 we will kill a50 tomorrow. Today is Roden.
Tell me why would I want to vote Roden over confirmed scum to me!

What is that information you have that makes him 100% scum.
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Post Post #4048 (isolation #65) » Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:26 am

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Someone, please protect me, jail keep or watch me

with that said... If I am dead, eliminate Almost50.

VOTE: Roden
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Post Post #4160 (isolation #66) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:17 am

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Good game town.. Thank yo mod!

Scum was very foolish with the Jailkeeper claim. If it wasn't that they would have not countered by the DOC claim.
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Post Post #4173 (isolation #67) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:24 am

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In post 4171, Roden wrote:It took three nights to finally kill LQ slot lol. Dude just wouldn't die.
I protected him!
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Post Post #4175 (isolation #68) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:45 am

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In post 4174, Nero Cain wrote:Shreks later argument that we should be using are day elim to off lurkers was a super ant-town argument and Arc picked up on it too
This is true. This is what got shrek scum locked me!!
Thanks to you, we got roden because i wasn't scum reading him.
And, Almost50 axed his own feet when claimed jail keeper. The question i have for him was why the hell did he claim jail keeper when he already knows that town may have possible doctor (when they couldnt kill LQ) , didn't he even think of a counterclaim?. A cc would solve the game too quickly. That was a super dumb move for sucm.
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Post Post #4179 (isolation #69) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:33 am

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So everyone is ignoring my doc protection and counterclaim which literally changed the game at the end!
GG town!
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Post Post #4187 (isolation #70) » Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:57 pm

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In post 4186, KittyTacky wrote:I don't remember this game having any funny quotes to put in my sig unfortunately.
It would require you to play the game on the first place!!
You bagged a free win without doing anything.
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Post Post #4190 (isolation #71) » Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:03 am

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Nero - you always scum read me. You never told me why! (this game has been a total exception though)
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