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Post Post #3112 (isolation #400) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:09 pm

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In post 3108, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3106, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3104, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3101, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3099, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3096, LicketyQuickety wrote:If DGB didn't perform a NA and is Scum then it confirms Shrek, Cheeky, and Mega being Town.
Cheeky and Mega can't both be town, dude.
Why not?
There is no sequence of night actions where Cheeky visits DGB and Cheeky gets no result where mega can also see this happen, unless cheeky has an unclaimed modifier like loyal/disloyal/simple/etc. @Cheeky you don't have any modifier like that, correct?
So what does that mean if DGB didn't even do a NA? How does that tie into this?
Nothing. Because this is all about cheeky getting no result and mega seeing the action that gave no result.
We have no idea what Cheeky getting "no result" even means without their claim.
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Post Post #3115 (isolation #401) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:10 pm

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In post 3113, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 3105, LicketyQuickety wrote:In the case DGB is Scum who did not use a NA, then Cheeky's no result, Shreks no result, and Mega seeing both Cheeky and Shrek visited DGB makes perfect sense.

Without knowing Cheeky's role, we don't know if one of Cheeky or Shrek is Scum in the case of Town!DGB since either of them could have rolestopped DGB.
Cheeky's role doesn't sound like it depends on whether or not DGB performed a night action. If it does, then a roleblock on DGB would give Cheeky a no result pm which is explicitly what cheeky is saying is NOT possible. I think Cheeky's role gets a result regardless of DGB performing a night action, otherwise why would cheeky say DGB is scum/disloyal/ascetic on a failed or no action?
We don't know any of that without Cheeky's claim.
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Post Post #3119 (isolation #402) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:12 pm

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In post 3117, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3112, LicketyQuickety wrote:We have no idea what Cheeky getting "no result" even means without their claim.
Unless it is a modifier we know it is incompatible with Mega's claim.
Unless Cheeky is Scum Rolestopper. Unlikely, but still possible. Or Cheeky could be RB but that is even more far fetched.
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Post Post #3124 (isolation #403) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:14 pm

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In post 3121, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3117, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3112, LicketyQuickety wrote:We have no idea what Cheeky getting "no result" even means without their claim.
Unless it is a modifier we know it is incompatible with Mega's claim.
Whi is lying between Cheeky and MEGA?

I also need MEGA's N1 target.
Mega didn't have a N1. They were Even Night 2-shot.
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Post Post #3126 (isolation #404) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:14 pm

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In post 3122, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3119, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3117, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3112, LicketyQuickety wrote:We have no idea what Cheeky getting "no result" even means without their claim.
Unless it is a modifier we know it is incompatible with Mega's claim.
Unless Cheeky is Scum Rolestopper. Unlikely, but still possible. Or Cheeky could be RB but that is even more far fetched.
No... because if Cheeky was a rolestopper then mega would get no result
Well, what does NAR say about this?
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Post Post #3129 (isolation #405) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:20 pm

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VOTE: Shrek
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Post Post #3133 (isolation #406) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:22 pm

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https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

Returning "No Result" to Trackers who do not see their target go anywhere (in favor of "Your target did not visit anyone")

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Post Post #3148 (isolation #407) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:27 pm

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Post Post #3154 (isolation #408) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:30 pm

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Finding out who StD was on last night is pretty important.
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Post Post #3159 (isolation #409) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:36 pm

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In post 3157, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3156, Shrek wrote:yeah true. but how would you still be able to visit dgb if you were rbed???? i dont get your logic
My action failed, MegA is lying.
How do you know your action failed and not just "no result"?
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Post Post #3161 (isolation #410) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:36 pm

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In post 3158, CheekyTeeky wrote:Or maybe my action failed after I visited so MegA still saw the visit? I'm not sure about that resolving.
Which is exactly why I asked you what you know for a fact rather than your speculation.
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Post Post #3165 (isolation #411) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:37 pm

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In post 3162, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3159, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3157, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3156, Shrek wrote:yeah true. but how would you still be able to visit dgb if you were rbed???? i dont get your logic
My action failed, MegA is lying.
How do you know your action failed and not just "no result"?
My result was "action failed"
Okay, well IDK what role gets that result.
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Post Post #3168 (isolation #412) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:40 pm

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In post 3166, Dwlee99 wrote:Any investigation role or a checker gets that result. Why am I in this thread again
I mean it's still possible Cheeky was RBed, and then that means what to DGB doing no NA?
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Post Post #3169 (isolation #413) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:41 pm

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Investigate is at the bottom of the list.
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Post Post #3171 (isolation #414) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:43 pm

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In post 3170, Shrek wrote:why would a mason be rbed
Because Cheeky is Cop or other investigative role.
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Post Post #3178 (isolation #415) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:47 pm

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In post 3176, Shrek wrote:
In post 3171, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3170, Shrek wrote:why would a mason be rbed
Because Cheeky is Cop or other investigative role.
how would scum know that though
What do you mean?
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Post Post #3200 (isolation #416) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:02 pm

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In post 3190, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3168, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3166, Dwlee99 wrote:Any investigation role or a checker gets that result. Why am I in this thread again
I mean it's still possible Cheeky was RBed, and then that means what to DGB doing no NA?
Shrek is claiming that their action failed (no result) not that DGB visited no one.
Which is exactly what is normal for... normal setups.
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Post Post #3211 (isolation #417) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:05 pm

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In post 3208, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 3200, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3190, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3168, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3166, Dwlee99 wrote:Any investigation role or a checker gets that result. Why am I in this thread again
I mean it's still possible Cheeky was RBed, and then that means what to DGB doing no NA?
Shrek is claiming that their action failed (no result) not that DGB visited no one.
Which is exactly what is normal for... normal setups.
Dude what planet are you on
Earth, I think.
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Post Post #3213 (isolation #418) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:06 pm

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Eh... I'll hammer if that's okay?
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Post Post #3216 (isolation #419) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:07 pm

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In post 3215, Dwlee99 wrote:LQ actually fifth scum rn
Thanks, I get accused of that a lot. Really makes me feel good inside.
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Post Post #3247 (isolation #420) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:30 pm

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Mega, you can self hammer at any time now.
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Post Post #3249 (isolation #421) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:33 pm

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Has everyone checked in?
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Post Post #3251 (isolation #422) » Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:36 pm

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In post 3250, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3249, LicketyQuickety wrote:Has everyone checked in?
yes, at some point or another
Kitty? Even?
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Post Post #3257 (isolation #423) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:11 pm

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Premise



Why does Mega claim that Cheeky visited DGB N2? That seems like utter suicide if Cheeky was RBed. If DGB was RBed, then wouldn't Cheeky still get a result? If DGB were Rolestopped then Shrek would be semi-innocent. If Cheeky was RBed, then Shrek is guilty. But if Mega didn’t know Cheeky’s result, then DGB was either Rolestoped or Abducted. That still says nothing about DGB/Shrek so we have to look at other data to sort DGB/Shrek given I am alive now.


Progression



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Spoiler: Progression on Mega
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In DBG says, quoting Mega, “I’m Town binning this player.”
DGB chainsaws Mega against Shek in . For some reason, DGB TRs Nero for making the case against Mega and SRs Shrek for agreeing with Nero. In Mega’s case against Nero, DGB puts down essentially a FoS on Mega in .
and (back to back posts) are interesting.
In DGB says explicitly they don’t SR Mega.
Then Mega doesn’t turn up until where DGB sides with Mega against Cheeky.
DGB shades both Shrek and Mega in , which further confirms both Shrek and Mega are not Scum if DGB is Scum. Shrek would have to be Town then.
In DGB says Cheeky’s claim is just as bad as Mega’s.
In and , DGB finally gets around to SRing Mega and makes their last 2 posts.


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Spoiler: Progression on Mega
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Reads List in says this about Mega: Null: mega - has actively been trying to solve, but nero has raised good points against him. i would put him at lean town if it werent for his interaction with nero to begin with
Strong SR on Mega in accompanied by a vote.
In says there is resistance to Mega. Reiterates in .
In asks DGB if they SR Mega. In Prods DGB about what they think of the case on Mega. In tells DGB to look at the case on Mega.
Still pressures Mega in .
In says they have Mega as leading in Elim order.
In votes Gamma because the Mega wagon didn’t take.
In says this: "mega - literally self explanatory. disappeared for half the last phase after not tryin to scumsolve at all and i wouldnt mind him flipping today"
In says I should have Mega in my low impact players list.
In votes Mega again.
In says Red Mega makes Cheeky Green.
Calls out Mega on the BS of reading them in .
Shades Mega.
Says “mega who is almost certainly scum” in .
Tells Nero in they want to lynch Mega before Cyrus.
In tells me to ISO Mega.
“i want mega over cyrus” in .
Stops the pressure on Mega to vote for Cyrus and says we will catch Mega with their claim, which is exactly what happened.
In says we should have Limed Mega.
Pressures Mega in . Says they want one of Cheeky or Mega gone in with a vote on Mega. Gives reasons for SRing Mega in . Puts pressure on Mega for 3 more posts.


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Spoiler: Progression on Cheeky
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In Cheeky asks DGB if they SR both Shrek and Roden. DGB say Roden is more likely Scum.
Vote’s Cheeky in with very poor reasoning IMO.
In , DGB gets the order reversed and says if Cheeky flips Red then Mega is Green.
In DGB chainsaws Mega to Cheeky.
In DGB tells Cheeky they are 1-Shot.
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looks like a buddy attempt.
is a WIFOM read on Gamma in response to Cheeky asking about them.
In DGB calls Cheeky Scum.
In DGB calls both Shrek and Cheeky Scum.
In DGB asks what Cheeky’s claim is.


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Spoiler: Progression on Cheeky
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In Reads List: “cheeky - i honestly think that the interaction between her and nero right now is strictly tvt… I'm putting him the highest outta everyone.” in .
Reads list in cheeky - i dont entirely agree with the reads list they posted but its basically the same case as with lq where i cant see them being partnered with anyone.
Lots of cooperation with Cheeky until:
Asks for a Town block including Cheeky in .
“me/cheeky/lq/nero/possibly roden is the townbloc” in .
“cheeky is not scum wtf are you smoking”
“i'm hard town reading cheeky”
Some cooperation, and defending Cheeky, then,
“cheeky is obvtown” in .
“n1 im sure i wasnt blocked because std visited cheeky”


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Spoiler: Progression on Shrek
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Empty shade on Shrek in .
Goes directly against Shrek as a principle in . Continues in .
In DGB, in response to Shrek says they “forgot the case” against Mega. In DGB, in response to Shrek, acknowledges the case on Mega and says, “I can see it” but does nothing with it.
Next mention of Shrek by DGB is in where DGB naked votes Shrek.
DGB complains about Shrek being Scum until where DGB finally is asking questions about what happened to trying to get Shek in the hood?
DGB goes back to saying the opposite to Shrek in .


Shrek


Spoiler: Progression on DGB
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Reads List in “inconclusive: dgb - wanna say that hes town based on how it seems like hes actively tryin to sort and scumsolve but i am completely unfamiliar with his style of play
In “dgb's take makes me want to move them up to leans town”
“i agree with dgb’s play here actually.” .
“idk what motivation dgb would have to fake claim especially if its to save mega.”
To Cyrus: “what do you think of dgb’s PR claim then? are they faking it?” In .
“i completely understand where dgb/lq are coming from so do NOT get on them either just yet” In .
“cheeky dgb isnt ascetic. im a tracker and dgb didnt perform an action last night which means it was either rbed or is lying about what it is”
“dgb may have actually targeted me but it didnt show up then”
“why would scum choose to rb cheeky randomly when dgb not being able to add someone to its hood is an infinitely better option"


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Spoiler: (Bonus) Progression on Roden
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is Sketchy since it looks like DGB is drawing at straws on a read like that.
and look a bit like early distancing with Roden (confirmed in ).
In DGB posts a “WTF?” at Roden and then starts to TR them in , for what I can see of very little reason.
618 is very weird because Roden says, “You're pushing a false narrative that Mega wants you bussed.” I can see no reason why DGB wants to TR Roden for that post (this post came up earlier).
DGB makes a very WIFOM-y read on Roden in .
There’s a huge gap where there’s not mention/interaction between Roden and DGB and they now have a strong TR on Roden at this point in the game (see ).


Town/Scum Analysis



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Spoiler: Town/Scum
Here’s a list of number and times that DGB calls a player Town/Scum (In cohesive order):

Here’s a fancy way of interpreting DGB’s reads (given DGB is Scum):

Scum = Town
Mixed = Town
Town = Scum

Town
Cheeky 0/10


Shrek 0/5
Cyrus 1/4


StD 1/1
Gamma 1/1


T3 2/1


AA9 1/0
A50 1/0


DW 2/0


Nero 3/0
Roden 3/0


Everyone DGB has called Scum is actually Town if Kitty and Shek are Town that is. That means Kitty and Shrek are both Town (See ) because of them being outliers and them being SR. We know Cheeky is confirmed Town. And Shrek resolves as Town with a DGB Scum flip. So we can reasonably guess that Kitty is Town as well.


Shrek


Spoiler: Town/Scum
Here’s a list of number and times that DGB calls a player Town/Scum (in cohesive order):

Interpreting Shek's reads (given Shek is Scum):

Scum = Town
Town = Town
Mixed = Mixed
N/A = N/A

Cyrus 0/4
Cheeky 7/0
Nero 6/0
DW 5/0


Roden 3/0
Norweirgh 2/0
StD 0/2


A50 1/0
Gamma 1/0
DGB 1/0


T3 1/4
Mega 1/5


Kitty 0/0
AA9 0/0
DotW 0/0


Results are a bit inconclusive. It's possible Shek's Null Reads are Scum, but that would be weird given the mixed results are Null.


Non-Associatives



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On a DGB Red flip:
Soft-Clears: Gamma, DW, Cheeky

Shrek


On a Shrek Red flip:
Clears: AA9, Roden
Soft-Clears: Gamma

Conclusion



These two players could not be more diametrically opposed to each other. They have opposite reads on the Elimed and on each other. Where DGB TR's Mega, Shrek SR's. Where DGB SR's Cheeky, Shrek TR's. And DGB reads Shrek as Scum whereas Shrek reads DGB as Town. To make matter more polar opposite, You could virtually flip the reads upsidown in terms of what reads they gave on all the rest of the players in this game.

If DGB is Scum, then they are likely teamed with a PoE of Roden and/or Nero, and AA9 and/or A50. If Shrek is Scum the PoE is likely DotW, Kitty, and A50.

So that is the information I have for you. Vote wisely.

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Post Post #3265 (isolation #424) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:17 pm

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Thanks, Shrek. I did all that work for exactly nothing.
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Post Post #3267 (isolation #425) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:20 pm

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Ugh. I hate this.

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Post Post #3274 (isolation #426) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:27 pm

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In post 3271, Dwlee99 wrote:I did not find it obvious that you were lying because it looked like DGB was rolestopped.
I guess that means Cheeky RB is back on the table then.
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Post Post #3277 (isolation #427) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:30 pm

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In post 3275, Roden wrote:Unless we're tin foiling scum having an Alien again?
I mean, that basically means DGB is Town since Mega would have known Cheeky was RBed if DGB is Scum.
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Post Post #3278 (isolation #428) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:31 pm

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In post 3276, Dwlee99 wrote:I do not put it beyond the realm of possibility that there is a combined roleblocker rolestopper (alien) that targeted DGB, but otherwise it seems like one of cheeky/dgb/shrek should be evil?

Hopefully cheeky has a result.
Can you explain this a bit? I feel like Cheeky is Town here, but if that's the case then my huge wall actually means something. I'd be excited if that's the case because I've been having really bad luck with Mafia lately.
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Post Post #3284 (isolation #429) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:35 pm

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In post 3280, Dwlee99 wrote:I think mega didn't know how roleblocks resolve on action investigation.
That would mean the whole Scum team wouldn't know right?
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Post Post #3285 (isolation #430) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:35 pm

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In post 3283, Dwlee99 wrote:one of cheeky/DGB could be roleblocked and the other lying.
I mean, DGB sure seems to think so...
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Post Post #3287 (isolation #431) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:37 pm

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In post 3286, Shrek wrote:wouldnt a mafia alien on dgb both prevent cheeky from investigating while also preventing dgb from taking an action? or am i looking at the wrong page on the wiki
Yeah, that's more or less it. It's a RB and Rolestop all in one. It's like hider except there is no person hidden behind.
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Post Post #3292 (isolation #432) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:46 pm

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In post 3288, Shrek wrote:thats literally the most likely scenario then since scum wouldnt want any more confirmed towns. i know im town, im 99% sure cheeky is town and have been this whole game, and dgb is at the top of my null reads and could easily hop into town provided thats the case

im thinking we stop going in circles and pursue a different avenue in gamma/roden. im fine with either of them going but i dont like how gamma escaped death barely on d1

VOTE: Gamma
That's a good thought. And BTW, from my research on you, you are like 10X more smooth of a player than DGB if that means anything to you.

VOTE: Gamma

This is what I was asking for D3.
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Post Post #3294 (isolation #433) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:48 pm

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Look, the only way DGB and Cheeky are both Town at this point is if Scum have an Alien IIRC. So I suggest we just realize that and vote Gamma off today.

As long as there is an Alien in the game that means Cheeky isn't getting any more results baring we Elim the Alien.

Also, it is possible that Cheeky was JK but that would mean Shrek is Scum.
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Post Post #3296 (isolation #434) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:49 pm

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In post 3295, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'm kinda suspicious of Dwlee changing the lim from Shrek to MegA and MegA flipping goon. I think smartest play is to lim Shrek today and if Shrek flips mafia PR rethink on Dwlee.

VOTE: Shrek
So you believe DGB now? What happened to them being Ascetic/Alien?
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Post Post #3299 (isolation #435) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:51 pm

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In post 3297, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3294, LicketyQuickety wrote:Look, the only way DGB and Cheeky are both Town at this point is if Scum have an Alien IIRC. So I suggest we just realize that and vote Gamma off today.

As long as there is an Alien in the game that means Cheeky isn't getting any more results baring we Elim the Alien.

Also, it is possible that Cheeky was JK but that would mean Shrek is Scum.
LQ take a deep breath in and on exhale wipe your thoughts on the game and vote Shrek.
Can you tell me why? I already made a huge fricken case between DGB and Shrek and came out strongly on DGB being Scum. If it's between those two, that's where I'm voting.
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Post Post #3303 (isolation #436) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:53 pm

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In post 3300, CheekyTeeky wrote:I was RB'd again on a different target meaning my action failed because I was Roleblocked N2 and then again N3. This means DGB was not RB'd N2 or RS. Therefore Shrek is lying about his tracker result, as if that wasn't already clear yesterday.
There could still be an alien in the game which would mean all of Shek/DGB/Cheeky are all Town. You could have been abducted.
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Post Post #3310 (isolation #437) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:57 pm

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In post 3305, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3299, LicketyQuickety wrote:I already made a huge fricken case between DGB and Shrek and came out strongly on DGB being Scum.
If you want that coveted winning streak, better switch these while there's still time.
If Cheeky is Town it quite literally means you are SRing all the Town players and TRing all the Scum players. Like, that's not exactly the kind of thing I expect Town to do. Meanwhile, Shek has been pretty spot on except for the people he is Null on. Granted, he's SR some Town players, but that actually points to him being Town if he TRs both Town and Scum where as you just have the wrong reads altogether.
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Post Post #3315 (isolation #438) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:59 pm

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Every time I vote Gamma, some other wagon pops up to somehow be more important. I really don't like the resistance to voting for Gamma.

Also, Gamma has sorta seemed like they have some sort of protection about not getting Elimed. I was thinking that one night while trying to sleep.
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Post Post #3318 (isolation #439) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:00 pm

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In post 3313, CheekyTeeky wrote:DGB is it possible if LQ were a godfather that he would still be added to your pt?
Cheeky, why on earth would I bring up that I was a Neighborizer if I was a GF?
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Post Post #3324 (isolation #440) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:02 pm

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In post 3316, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3310, LicketyQuickety wrote:If Cheeky is Town it quite literally means you are SRing all the Town players and TRing all the Scum players.
What? We only flipped one scum.

You have to understand, I am town, so from my perspective I find none of your other reads credible because you are so stubbornly wrong about me.
I mean, you are free to think that if you want but just because I am wrong on one of my reads doesn't mean I am wrong on all of them. You should really check for someone's reason for their reads in that situation, and you are sorta lacking in the reasoning department for your reads. All you do is just blurt out "Town/Scum" and don't really explain yourself.
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Post Post #3328 (isolation #441) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:03 pm

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In post 3321, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3318, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3313, CheekyTeeky wrote:DGB is it possible if LQ were a godfather that he would still be added to your pt?
Cheeky, why on earth would I bring up that I was a Neighborizer if I was a GF?
I don't know. None of your play makes sense to me.
That's because I'm an Alien IRL. Sorry couldn't resist. I get called weird a lot.
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Post Post #3339 (isolation #442) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:09 pm

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In post 3332, Shrek wrote:nero is almost conftown at this point though???
Yup. No way that back and forth with Nero was theatre. I have strong strong non-associatives between Mega and Nero. Never lynch Nero unless it's like Elimlo or something.
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Post Post #3341 (isolation #443) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:10 pm

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In post 3340, CheekyTeeky wrote:If he flips town great you don't risk sorting him near endgame and losing. Also since Nokill we have room to breathe.
I am as confident in his read flip as I was with MegA's. If he flips green then it we need to relook at the loyal neighbourizer.
Worst logic ever.
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Post Post #3343 (isolation #444) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:11 pm

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In post 3336, Dwlee99 wrote:Y'all need to figure out what happens if Shrek flips town here
I mean, it basically confirms DGB is Scum, right?
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Post Post #3345 (isolation #445) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:12 pm

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In post 3342, CheekyTeeky wrote:Basically limming outside of DGB/Shrek is ridiculous as we've got one more piece of that puzzle to fit.
If that's the case then you know where I am voting. And don't pretend I didn't spend hours and hours to sort that shit out.
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Post Post #3350 (isolation #446) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:13 pm

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In post 3346, CheekyTeeky wrote:LQ if Shrek flips red that basically confirms DGB's role so you should want that too. As you can see NKs aren't going to solve squat.
IF they flip read. I don't like going off of "IFs".
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Post Post #3356 (isolation #447) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:15 pm

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Like, Cheeky, in what world does Mega claim that Shrek visited DGB when they didn't there? It would essentially confirm Shek was Scum and get Mega to go late game. OTOH, Shek has been pushing Mega pretty much all game long. No, Shek is almost certainly Town here.
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Post Post #3361 (isolation #448) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:17 pm

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In post 3358, CheekyTeeky wrote:Cool, if you game throw here LQ I'll hold it against you for a long time.
What the actual fuck are you talking about me game throwing for? That's a serious fucking accusation to make. Don't tell me that unless you have something to back it up. My God.
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Post Post #3367 (isolation #449) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:23 pm

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Cheeky is literally starting shit for no apparent reason. First it was Nero they were goading, now me. What is going on Cheeky?
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Post Post #3369 (isolation #450) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:25 pm

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Checky, I would REALLY appreciate it if you would read my first post of the Day Phase.
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Post Post #3373 (isolation #451) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:26 pm

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In post 3371, Shrek wrote:(Gamma/Roden/Kitty/AA9/A50)

genuinely think the three remaining scum are within these 5. cheeky is being silly and im not going to take any of her reads seriously until she can at least explain what an alien is
Good list, but I'd say only 2 Scum there.
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Post Post #3374 (isolation #452) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:28 pm

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In post 3353, Dwlee99 wrote:I townread Shrek on play rn
THANK YOU. That is what my whole case was all about. IF we are going between Shek and DGB, then I can't really see a world where Shrek is Red and DGB is Green.
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Post Post #3376 (isolation #453) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:30 pm

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In post 3375, DrippingGoofball wrote:No one has admitted to roleblocking either of (Cheeky or me), so that would come from scum.

I'm telling the truth, so someone is lying between Cheeky & Shrek.
Why would they out themselves as Town here?
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Post Post #3377 (isolation #454) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:30 pm

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And like only half the game has checked in yet.
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Post Post #3381 (isolation #455) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:31 pm

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In post 3378, Dwlee99 wrote:Doesn't cheeky have a clear on gamma btw?
Unless Cheeky is Gunsmith and Gamma is Traitor, I think so...
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Post Post #3384 (isolation #456) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:32 pm

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DGB tells me not to do setup spec and then tells everyone there is no alien... really?
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Post Post #3385 (isolation #457) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:33 pm

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I can't help feeling like Gamma Elim is the hardest thing in the world right now.
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Post Post #3394 (isolation #458) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:39 pm

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In post 3390, CheekyTeeky wrote:If mafia aliend DGB why did StD die?
Because StD could have targeted literally anyone since they didn't crumb that they were on DGB. In fact, A50 thinks it more likely StD was on me instead of DGB.
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Post Post #3395 (isolation #459) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:41 pm

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In post 3391, DrippingGoofball wrote:Upstanding red role PM citizen MegA wanted to draw our attention to this:

In post 2879, MegAzumarill wrote:-_(*-*)_-

I did though. Which makes me think its something funky.
Important note is DGB was NOT the intended NK since STD didn't visit.
That's complete WIFOM that you can't read into. StD is dead, so they can't confirm or deny anything.
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Post Post #3397 (isolation #460) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:43 pm

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In post 3396, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3392, Shrek wrote:because bg was either on someone else or they killed std directly for a low info kill like norwe’s
Bullshit. I know what an Alien is, it's a JK against all PRs not just kills. The fact that you claimed several nuances of your fake role doesn't read as a gambit. You were caught red handed yesterday and disappeared. The way that people are shopping around you is enraging.
No, it actually confirms that it was a gambit. Are you serious rn?
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Post Post #3400 (isolation #461) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:44 pm

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In post 3399, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3396, CheekyTeeky wrote:The fact that you claimed several nuances of your fake role doesn't read as a gambit.
Tell me more?
Go read last Day Phase.
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Post Post #3402 (isolation #462) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:48 pm

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Cheeky, I'd like your opinion on what I said in my OP for this Day.
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Post Post #3406 (isolation #463) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:56 pm

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Cheeky, I suggest you check into rehab at this point.
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Post Post #3408 (isolation #464) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:58 pm

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In post 3405, Dwlee99 wrote:Oh
VOTE: Shrek
Mega claimed that Shrek visited DGB in the 2800s I think btw.
Explain it like I'm 5.
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Post Post #3412 (isolation #465) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:01 pm

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In post 3155, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3151, Shrek wrote:and no std visited you n1 not n2. iirc his role says if he blocks a nk he dies instead
Yeah but maybe StD protected me again N2...just read wiki though, bodyguard wouldn't interfere with my actions.
In post 3156, Shrek wrote:yeah true. but how would you still be able to visit dgb if you were rbed???? i dont get your logic
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Post Post #3414 (isolation #466) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:03 pm

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In post 3410, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2871, MegAzumarill wrote:Results:
CheekyTeeky and Shrek visited DrippingGoofball last night.
In post 3152, Shrek wrote:VOTE: mega

i want mega or cheeky gone today 100%. their statements contradict each other
In post 3156, Shrek wrote:yeah true. but how would you still be able to visit dgb if you were rbed???? i dont get your logic
In post 3160, Shrek wrote:hence me wanting to vote for mega or you cause one of you is 100% lying. i want mega because his claim was bs, he's been inactive, and only claimed me and you visited dgb after we both outright admitted we did
I feel like the post where Shrek acknowledges Mega's claim would go something like "I lied about my role and didn't visit DGB" if Shrek was town. Instead they held off on revealing the gambit and I don't know why they would as town.
That would mean what Shrek said at the beginning of the Day was a lie. Not sure why he wouldn't keep the gambit going if they were Scum. Would have gotten DGB Elimed at least.
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Post Post #3415 (isolation #467) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:04 pm

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In post 3413, Dwlee99 wrote:Yes, Shrek said mega's claim was BS but I think town!shrek would have just outed the gambit. The way Shrek went about it leaves cheeky or DGB up for lim still.
I mean, just FYI, I think Shrek has only played like 2 games, so take that for what it is worth.
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Post Post #3416 (isolation #468) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:05 pm

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This is why you read people based on play and not based on claims.
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Post Post #3417 (isolation #469) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:06 pm

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Also, that would require Mega to NOT get lynched I think???
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Post Post #3419 (isolation #470) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:07 pm

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Dang. Well, good game guys. I'm gunna be banned from mafia now for using the l-word. Slip of the tongue. Sorry. It was fun!
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Post Post #3421 (isolation #471) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:08 pm

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I was doing so well too. Well, I'll be banned from playing mafia now since I was warned about it. Real bummer.
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Post Post #3422 (isolation #472) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:11 pm

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I'm honestly disappointed in myself right now. I kept telling myself "Elim, Elim, Elim" I even started using it on other sites. But I was typing too fast I guess. Man, I'm so disappointed.
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Post Post #3424 (isolation #473) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:19 pm

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In post 3423, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3422, LicketyQuickety wrote:I'm honestly disappointed in myself right now. I kept telling myself "Elim, Elim, Elim" I even started using it on other sites. But I was typing too fast I guess. Man, I'm so disappointed.
Maybe they'll give you another chance if you ask nicely.
I kinda don't think they will give me another chance but I reported the post to the mod who warned me. Oh, well. I had just gotten back into playing. And I was really enjoying this game.
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Post Post #3431 (isolation #474) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:26 pm

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In post 3425, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3412, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3155, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3151, Shrek wrote:and no std visited you n1 not n2. iirc his role says if he blocks a nk he dies instead
Yeah but maybe StD protected me again N2...just read wiki though, bodyguard wouldn't interfere with my actions.
In post 3156, Shrek wrote:yeah true. but how would you still be able to visit dgb if you were rbed???? i dont get your logic
DW, what about this?
LQ, MegA was lying so I obviously didn't visit DGB. Shrek was lying so he doesn't know if StD visited me unless he's a scum watcher.
If there is a Scum Watcher then they probably would have been on DGB... And that's not likely since we DON'T actually know if StD visited you N1 or not. And people were pressuring them for their N1. So they gave it. It's not a thought through claim and it would have to be if Mega and Shrek are both Scum.
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Post Post #3435 (isolation #475) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:28 pm

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In post 3430, KittyTacky wrote:When you miss a whole-ass day... starting my read of it and this current day after I eat.
You had 48 hours to catch up. Why are you just doing this now?
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Post Post #3437 (isolation #476) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:30 pm

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In post 3436, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3431, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3425, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3412, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3155, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3151, Shrek wrote:and no std visited you n1 not n2. iirc his role says if he blocks a nk he dies instead
Yeah but maybe StD protected me again N2...just read wiki though, bodyguard wouldn't interfere with my actions.
In post 3156, Shrek wrote:yeah true. but how would you still be able to visit dgb if you were rbed???? i dont get your logic
DW, what about this?
LQ, MegA was lying so I obviously didn't visit DGB. Shrek was lying so he doesn't know if StD visited me unless he's a scum watcher.
If there is a Scum Watcher then they probably would have been on DGB... And that's not likely since we DON'T actually know if StD visited you N1 or not. And people were pressuring them for their N1. So they gave it. It's not a thought through claim and it would have to be if Mega and Shrek are both Scum.
I'm talking about N1 bruv.
I know. I don't get why it is more likely Shrek was telling the truth about StD visiting you N1 as Scum rather than Town. Please explain that part. Still waiting on your thought on my wall post btw.
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Post Post #3442 (isolation #477) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:39 pm

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In post 3440, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3437, LicketyQuickety wrote:I know. I don't get why it is more likely Shrek was telling the truth about StD visiting you N1 as Scum rather than Town. Please explain that part. Still waiting on your thought on my wall post btw.
I feel like you could answer this yourself. Shrek lied about being a tracker, then he lied about lying about being a tracker made clear by his play around the lie yesterday. These actions only serve scum not town in any way. If he was fake claiming as town he would have been all about the MegA lie and not questioning me as if his tracker claim was legit. Getting information from another town PR in a gambit to incriminate scum, while believing the scumclaim of watching us is........there's no words but definitely not of town.

Your wall post needs to be forgot and I'll tell you again to reset.
I think it's generally a really really bad idea to say what a player WOULD do.
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Post Post #3443 (isolation #478) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:39 pm

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In post 3441, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3381, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3378, Dwlee99 wrote:Doesn't cheeky have a clear on gamma btw?
Unless Cheeky is Gunsmith and Gamma is Traitor, I think so...
Maybe unvote then, fucker
Cheeky could still be Scum covering for you.
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Post Post #3445 (isolation #479) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:42 pm

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In post 3444, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3392, Shrek wrote:because bg was either on someone else or they killed std directly for a low info kill like norwe’s
I still think Norwee was an attempt to mason hunt by the scumteam, thus affirming Cheeky as town
That... is not likely... Why wouldn't they just kill Cheeky?
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Post Post #3447 (isolation #480) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:44 pm

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In post 3439, Dragon of the West wrote:Also with a bodyguard already flipped, what are the odds of another town protective role? I'm confused at the no NK
I was wondering the same thing honestly.
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Post Post #3449 (isolation #481) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:46 pm

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In post 3446, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3397, LicketyQuickety wrote:No, it actually confirms that it was a gambit. Are you serious rn?
HOW
Keep reading. It would have to be a well thought out claim scheme if both Shrek and Mega are Scum. I say this because Shrek said it was a gambit, and IDK why they wouldn't just stick with that into this Day since it makes Shrek look a lot worse and cause a 1v1 with DGB.
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Post Post #4090 (isolation #482) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:40 pm

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Hi!

Sorry for my continued use of the l-word that got me got.

Also, sorry to DGB for my push on them. I should have known you were Town. I apologize.

Also, thanks for the game everyone! It was fun while it lasted!
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Post Post #4091 (isolation #483) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:41 pm

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Abilities:
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Post Post #4095 (isolation #484) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:50 pm

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In post 4094, Shrek wrote:bruh lol. this setup was WACK but fun game
FWIW, I think you played well for the most part based on play. Your claim messed you up, but beyond that, I think you played fine.
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Post Post #4110 (isolation #485) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:58 pm

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In post 4102, Nero Cain wrote:I mean I got sidetracked but I had scumreads on Roden, mega, and shrek early...
I had a really early SR on Shrek for sticking out, but it didn't last. I have to learn to pay attention to my early reads. I was right about Norweigh early too.
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Post Post #4118 (isolation #486) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:00 pm

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In post 4116, Save The Dragons wrote:i still think gamma's scum
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Post Post #4127 (isolation #487) » Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:05 pm

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StD...

Who did you protect N1 and N2?
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Post Post #4167 (isolation #488) » Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:24 am

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In post 4165, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 4127, LicketyQuickety wrote:StD...

Who did you protect N1 and N2?
N1 Nero
N2 you
Why did you think I was getting NKed over DGB there?
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Post Post #4168 (isolation #489) » Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:25 am

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Also, very nice save, I gotta say.
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