Codenames (Game 65 in progress)

[StrangerCoug]

2) There was talk of prodding rules and stuff, how would people feel on the following rule: Spymasters may prod their own players if they wish to do so, said prod must only be a message saying that it's a prod and nothing else

VOTE: Yes

Kinda neutral about the Google Game 45, but if it happens I'd spectate.

[Marashu]

Maybe less of a prod and more of a... reminder? I dunno; prod sounds kinda formal, but I do think that, if someone hasn't posted for a while after a clue is revealed, maybe the spymaster can at least notify them that there's a clue? But I also kind of don't like that because it risks the spymaster needing to be responsible for the team and encourages players to not check in and keep track of the game themselves, so it's not really fair to the spymaster.

[Marashu]

All that to say that I'm of mixed opinions about it.

[HockeyFan]

A couple of things I wanna discuss before starting the next game:

1) How would people feel about having a 1-off game of googling allowed where spy's and guessers are allowed to google things and try to find the very perfect word!
-If I got enough people interested in it then I'd run it as Game 45 and I'd have spymasters who purposely sign up for it and not use the ones in queue for this round

2) There was talk of prodding rules and stuff, how would people feel on the following rule: Spymasters may prod their own players if they wish to do so, said prod must only be a message saying that it's a prod and nothing else

Uhh for 1) i dont mind either option but would prefer no googling

2) I dont really like the idea of prods but eh

[Farren]

I have no problem with any sort of PM-based system to let players know it's their turn, so long as the PM is kept bare-bones (maybe require a template?) and it's limited to once per turn.

I would not play in the Google-based game. That takes all the fun out of the game. If we're talking about variants, I would love to see Duet pop up at some point.

[lilith2013]

Agree with Farren - I’d be ok with prods as long as the spymaster uses a pre-determined message and is limited to once per turn. also would not play in a game that allows googling. I’ve never played duet but looks interesting.

[Nancy Drew 39]

A couple of things I wanna discuss before starting the next game:

1) How would people feel about having a 1-off game of googling allowed where spy's and guessers are allowed to google things and try to find the very perfect word!
-If I got enough people interested in it then I'd run it as Game 45 and I'd have spymasters who purposely sign up for it and not use the ones in queue for this round

2) There was talk of prodding rules and stuff, how would people feel on the following rule: Spymasters may prod their own players if they wish to do so, said prod must only be a message saying that it's a prod and nothing else

1) Why don’t you run BOTH a google and a non-google versuon?

2) Send a reminder to one’s teammates since people sometimes can forget they’re in a game.

[Charles510]

I would be against playing with google

[CreativeMod1]

Okay so sounds like a resounding no on having a special google game, tbh I agree but it sounded like a fun idea I figured I'd throw it out there.

Farren does have a great suggestion though, what'd people think about having a game of Codenames Duet? maybe even as a competition style thing where we have loads of pairs, each pair has the same grid and we see which pair can win in the fewest moves? I had something like this planned out for a Survivor challenge once but never got round to putting it into a game haha
So yeah, if people are down for it I'd be happy to run it for game 45 instead.

For those who don't know, duet is a 2 player co-op variant in which you take turns being spymaster for the same grid and you're trying to help each other find all 15 correct words, but you only have 9 words each (some of the words overlap).

Also, I'm gonna rule it that anyone is allowed to send a PM to a player on their team saying: "It's our teams turn!" and nothing else in the message
So it's kinda like a prod/a reminder. I will say though, please don't over use it to the point of annoying a player, 1 reminder per round and you should post in the thread to say you've done the reminder so that others don't also send a reminder.

I will not be getting involved in sending reminder PMs

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE: Yes to Codenames Duet

[HockeyFan]

I havent fully grasped the concept of Duet? Can someone explain it to me again

[Farren]

The main differences between Duet and regular:
1) Duet is co-operative; regular is competitive.
2) There are no Blue words vs. Red words; there are only Green words/agents- but the Green words are different for each Spymaster. The Spymasters have to identify 15 agents amongst the 25 words.
3) More assassins! Three assassins per Spymaster instead of just one. (Makes up for the fact that there are no longer "enemy" agents to work around.)
4) The Spymasters alternate between giving and guessing; when they're guessing, they're allowed to talk and discuss (although they can't discuss clues they gave or which words belong to them).
5) Duet's meant for smaller groups - it can support as few as two players. (More can still play, though.)

[Farren]

Oh, and Duet's difficulty is scalable. You can reduce (or increase) the number of turns, or set a limit on how many bystanders you're allowed to tag before Bad Things happen.

[CreativeMod1]

[*]All players may send prods/reminders to anyone on their team. You can only prod each player once per round and when you do so you must post in the thread that you have done it to avoid multiple prods. A prod must consist of the phrase: "It's our teams turn" and nothing else.

This is the updated rule in it's full

[HockeyFan]

The main differences between Duet and regular:
1) Duet is co-operative; regular is competitive.
2) There are no Blue words vs. Red words; there are only Green words/agents- but the Green words are different for each Spymaster. The Spymasters have to identify 15 agents amongst the 25 words.
3) More assassins! Three assassins per Spymaster instead of just one. (Makes up for the fact that there are no longer "enemy" agents to work around.)
4) The Spymasters alternate between giving and guessing; when they're guessing, they're allowed to talk and discuss (although they can't discuss clues they gave or which words belong to them).
5) Duet's meant for smaller groups - it can support as few as two players. (More can still play, though.)

assuming green means neutral in this case? Also, im assuming by this ruleset, techinally everyones a spymaster? or how does it work. Is it like a spymaster per player(then they switch)? Like in groups of 2?

[lilith2013]

Here’s a link to a bgg thread that talks about the differences: https://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/6719 ... -agents-al

reading this, I feel like we’ll actually have less discussion/a harder time discussing clues in duet, so I might just prefer the regular version.

[Farren]

Spoiler: More Duet stuff, including a Duet board

Player 1 gets this keycard:

FROG	SNOW	AZTEC	VALENTINE	GAS
DISEASE	PALM	MUD	NIGHT	BAY
LIFE	STABLE	SPELL	TUXEDO	WIND
HOSE	CLOAK	TRUNK	AXE	BIG BANG
LION	SALAD	NERVE	MILL	FORCE

Player 2 gets this keycard:

FROG	SNOW	AZTEC	VALENTINE	GAS
DISEASE	PALM	MUD	NIGHT	BAY
LIFE	STABLE	SPELL	TUXEDO	WIND
HOSE	CLOAK	TRUNK	AXE	BIG BANG
LION	SALAD	NERVE	MILL	FORCE

Player 1 gets to see the top keycard and has to give clues to get Player 2 to guess the nine green words on the top keycard. Player 2 gets to see the bottom keycard and has to give clues to get Player 1 to guess the nine green words on the bottom keycard.

As far as how to handle more than two players - it's up to the Mod. Could either divide everyone into two teams and have everyone be Spymasters; could divide everyone into two teams and assign one Spymaster to each team; could just have the two Spymasters while everyone else is allowed to work actively for both of them.

P-Edit: as far as discussion goes, Spymasters are allowed to openly discuss clues they've received when it's their turn to guess; they just can't discuss clues they have given or what their keycard looks like. As long as the Spymasters follow that rule, there should be more discussion, not less.

[HockeyFan]

ahhh ok that makes more sense

[Charles510]

/in for next game

[Nancy Drew 39]

/in for codenames duet as well. I like to be challenged.

[Not_Mafia]

/in

[CreativeMod1]

/in for next game

You're spymaster in the next game

[CreativeMod1]

Blue Team goes First

BAR	GOLD	SKYSCRAPER	TUBE	NUT
DOG	SINK	NET	WAKE	PIRATE
CALF	WHIP	PART	WIND	PIE
TRUNK	TOKYO	CONCERT	DAY	FIELD
SLIP	BANK	PANTS	SCREEN	HONEY

Blue Clues	Red Clues
0/9	0/8

Team	Spy Master	Members
BLUE TEAM	The Bulge	lilith2013, Farren, HockeyFan
RED TEAM	Charles510	Nancy Drew 39, Marashu, Not_Mafia

[The Bulge]

Streamer - 3

[lilith2013]

Spoiler:

I think this is streamer like a youtube streamer, so the first words I see are net, screen, and tube
It could also be streamer like the tissue paper strips that you put up at parties, so that could maybe be wind? but I feel like it’s probably just the person streamer.