Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn Mafia (Game Over)

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Flops

VOTE: Momrangel

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Apply for Garuda raid

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Mastina's town.

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Please explain why town would not want to join a raid because there's scum in it?
Are we going to try and arm twit peope we think are scum off of the raid?
How?

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So you just want to slow things down?

Sure.

I unraid? Is that a thing?

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Should we be discussing the mechanics fully without any caution?

I feel it's worth getting this discussion out of the way now.

So I'll give a minor example that doesn't do too much damage to our own win con.

I can think of a few, one example is that a player started with an x-shot that was already used.

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Oh, it's not a recharge but a plus one?

A +1 means a +1 shot role could turn into a +2 shot role.

While a recharge would probably go into effect only if they already used their shot.

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Reword to reduce confusion now says:

"Gain 1 shot for applicable roles"

So I guess this means if you have 2 shots you get 3.

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HAVENT READ BUT

join raid join raid join raid

*kicks Sircakez out of the raid*

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mmm I think the raid got hammered.

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So what did you learn from this Mirio?

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Thanks bro.

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Something that stuck out to me is how many people glazed over my request altogether. I don't think it was an incorrect thought, and I also realized I misunderstood how it worked once it was clarified in thread. I think it's going to be good information to dig into more at a later time.

I am unimpressed by the votes on me over the request, but understand them. Of the two I think Gamma's was weaker, as it seems fairly surface level.

What would an impressive vote even look like on you in rvs?

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I have no idea Mirio.

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I'm kind of just waiting for someone to town slip hard or scum slip hard.
I don't really see anything yet. I have pings of town, but then I just go: Nono, what if that's what they want me to think?

There are certain posts that are being uploaded to my brain that I'm trying to make a decision on, such as Qrow's use of past experience to justify that the pace is fine. When, like, okay? Sure? Alright.

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Sure Titus.

A little girl slips on a muffin,
another boy who fell asks:
What kind of muffin was it?
The answer was a chocolate muffin.

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I'm not thinking about whether what you're saying is right or wrong. Of all the posts in the universe why that one?

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VOTE: Elsa Jay

I guess.

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VOTE: Elsa Jay

I guess.

Blink twice if you want me to free you.

Blinks once

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I am not an alt don’t you dare besmirch me.

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Can we kill Elsa. All I have is gut.

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I don’t want your vote tho

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Deja vu

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Is Sakura Hana fire bringer?

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Is Sakura Hana fire bringer?

No, this is my main account.
Fire bringer is a friend of mine tho

I think Firebringer said the exact same thing to me as scum the last game I played with them. Something about protecting other player’s self-esteem.

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Well, it hardly matters. I believe you when you say they’re not them.

I mean, I have a bunch of multi all paranoia but I just haven’t said anything about it because I think it sort of muddies the water and makes it harder to hunt.

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I didn’t realize you weren’t very good at reading people. My mistake Mirio.

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You seem confused Mirio.
I’m not here because I’m aspiring to achieve recognition from you.

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???
The last game I played I had like, 4 reads day 1 in a 13 player game.

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One of them was wrong too. :C

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You can’t discredit a scum gut read. It discredits itself.

Not following. I literally never give up as town. I doubt this game will be much different. Though my job has been very straining lately so I may collapse sometimes.

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@Elsa, not really. I just sort of think you’re scum from pattern recognition.

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That Big sister pattern some scum do. You know, when like they’re being friendly and giving advice and don’t seem very self-serving. But it just causes them to kind of blend while posting a bunch. That plus their joke to serious post ratio tickles my scumdar.

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That Big sister pattern some scum do. You know, when like they’re being friendly and giving advice and don’t seem very self-serving. But it just causes them to kind of blend while posting a bunch. That plus their joke to serious post ratio tickles my scumdar.

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Their jokes seem to say “let me fit in, I’m one of you”

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Ticking my scumsdar with the joke to serious post radar? Yes.

The big sister idea doesn’t fit very well. But I started with “vague gut feeling”
You’re asking me to rationalize something irrational.

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But your jokes aren’t very good.

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I don’t wanna talk about it because it doesn’t serve town to talk about it.

You have a point about going against everyone else. Except that’s exactly the opposite of self serving. So I don’t follow.

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Sakura Hana: guardian of self-esteems everywhere.

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Sakura Hana: guardian of self-esteems everywhere.

Kind of funny that you call me that when i probably have the lowest self-esteem in the universe.

Don’t be so full of yourself, the universe is a big place.

Sure, archetypes are lame anyway. I can be right for the wrong reasons. My ego can take it.

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I’m joking. Of course I can be wrong for the wrong reasons.

Wait that doesn’t make any sense when I think about it.

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Mornin. I work from 7:30 to 5ish.

Question for dwlee. You’re chill this game. Y so chill?

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I hate alts who play around with information that obviously isn't avaliable to true newbs

I caught up and decided Sakura was probably town or good enough scum that I can't spot the difference.

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1. What is Mirio doing?

2. I haven't a clue what Nancy posted or what about it was problematic.

3. I'm not sure how I feel about Elsa sounding like they're apologizing for missing an obligation (what is their obligation and why are they sorry for not meeting it?)

4. Meh on Dragon's entry. Usually they plant a vote down at least.

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Romance seems alright, or at least based in past experience they're being less vague than i feel they are when they plat scum. Then again they have long game scum issues but their short game scum play is decent to good.

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My memory of STD is that he doesn't do much more than this as town tbh.

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Ok Bell's town.

I'm pretty hyper aware of my own town tells and even I don't know what tripped the town bell tell in my last few posts.

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Lol, I've led one too many wagons on town Titus to even pretend I'm going to consider it without a cop guilty.

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I'd appreciate it. They sort of always make that list and it's suspcious that I'm at the top and they're correct on it when as town their readslist should be upside down to common humor enthusiasts at Mastina's expense everywhere.

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Shit posting, when you seemed pretty alright before.

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You spin everything to your advantage, but that's just noticing that it's a skill in your skill set but it doesn't really tell me anything about your alignment.

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So, for Sakura, I just dunno if this is how they would, as scum start the game out, after being away for awhile. Sort of semi serious, but consistent. Their attention just makes sense as do their responses for the most part. Not all of her posts are focused on looking town either, while other posts look town while appearing innocuous at first.

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I'm just gunna solve at my own pace, tyvm.

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I think I played a game called where there were hackers and agents. I was in the top 10 for awhile. But that was a lot easier to keep track of while the math would be frustrating here.

I can tell you're not actively pursuing me on account that you're not directly attacking me.

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I mean, Sircakez hasn't said or done anything this game on first look.
There's like, nothing to have an opinion on. I'm not even sure if it makes sense for him as town to at least put in a half-baked effort. Because I kind of just don't know what town sircakez looks like.
I totally forgot if I've even played with town sircakez.

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yeah, that game was fun, but I felt kind of like I just arm twisted people to victory in mind night. I didn't feel very bright.

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I'm back.

VOTE: Titus cuz first wagon blues.

I also didn't think the minus 2 days on deadline thing for the raid would do much but I forgot how slow some games go so two days off would suck. Doesn't help with 5 V/LA people here either.

This vote is so bad, that I'm actually not sure scum would make it after getting the spotlight on them.

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I'm wifoming myself, aren't I.

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An elimination on scum?

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@Bell/Mandelbrot

Have either of you ever played with Elsa before?

Nope.

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The more I read my own posts the more confused i am at the town reads I’m getting.

I thought my town tells were all related to:enjoyment and Spamming activity.

My activity is meh this game and while I’m enjoying it so far I don’t see any of that in my posts this game or at the least, it’s subtle.

Not to make everything about me but I really want some explanations for these trs.

Except Nora. They get a pass because I like them.

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I don’t like sir cakez vote on Elsa but I suspect Elsa so, like,

I guess the real question about Elsa is if I buy their slow moving ate on the matter.

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The point of the post is that I’ve made a decision to judge Elsa based on their AtE about them rolling scum a lot and sort of rolling over and admitting they were suspicious.

While also saying hey, Sircakez vote on Elsa for the reasons stated and their singular focus sucks.

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Would you look at that, you knew and you broadened your horizons.

Though it sort of feels like busy work. I’ll give you time though. You just got here.

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I'd appreciate it. They sort of always make that list and it's suspcious that I'm at the top and they're correct on it when as town their readslist should be upside down to common humor enthusiasts at Mastina's expense everywhere.

I'm having trouble grasping what this means

Shit posting, when you seemed pretty alright before.

why does it feel like mirio's posting has taken a turn for the worse? I don't feel like I'm perceiving a shift

-Qrow

He admitted he was letting the thread breathe. He was more strict and on the straight and narrow initially. I guess you could say he was pretty serious face when the game started and then he started posting spoilers with jokes in them. I didn’t know what the shift was. If it was from partners telling them to chill a little for confrontation purposes, or just because they were trying to let the thread breathe a little.

It seems fairly clear cut?

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Could you clarify what you mean by which reads I’m trying to flip?

You mean which players I want to get flipped right now?

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Oh, this is in relation to Lady lambadelta who doesn’t like Mastina’s approach (I guess?) and made a running joke that town mastina’s reads should be flipped upside down and town would win if they eliminated from the bottom up of the flipped read’s list. I sort of think that Martina just has a weakness for biting on intentionally dropped town tells early so their initial reads list ends up with scum at the top since scum are usually trying harder to get town read than the actual town.

Unless you have my play style.

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You voted someone and then developed reads on other players. In a catch up post.

Why even vote someone if you don’t have enough information to see whether they’re going to end up being your ultimate vote five minutes from then? It reads backwards.

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Sure Sircakez.

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No. I think the joke is mean spirited and I already regret bringing it up. Even if it is amusing, that doesn’t mean it can’t be hurtful.

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You voted someone and then developed reads on other players. In a catch up post.

Why even vote someone if you don’t have enough information to see whether they’re going to end up being your ultimate vote five minutes from then? It reads backwards.

Not really buying this post as genuine.

I'm pretty sure we're all aware there is more than one scum.

I’m not sure how you arrived at the conclusion I was implying I thought there was one scum or that sircakez thought there was one scum.

I’m not even sure why you would think this as either alignment.

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Yeah, I didn't say that.

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It's well known that Noraa spends the first 15 pages as scum lamenting rolling scum in the scum PT.

There are the stages of grief (which I'm not sure really work in practice). Denial, anger, bargaining, sad faces, and then acceptance gif.

I'm pretty sure there are more of those.

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Also, that avatar is fantastic.

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I should probably try to sort Mirio correctly. He seems willing to play ball. I'm conflicted because he kind of comes off as petapan scum or Hopkirk town. No, those aren't alt guesses.

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Of course it's not entirely accurate, it's a hyperbolic joke, That has some truth to it. And the acceptance gif never actually gets posted.

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Did you receive a green role pm when the game started?

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Any thoughts about Wheme, Krow, Mom, Sircakez that I missed?

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Has Toogaloo ever posted like this before?

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Mystic bears is hard town for me and I think Romance is also town based purely on an ego read.
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Vague. Please clarify with reasons.

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Has Toogaloo ever posted like this before?

You mean with lots of early reads, no claim out the gate, and trying to make intelligent decision on how to play the game?

Probably not.

Hum.

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In my opinion, you being concerned about all the townreads on you makes you townier.

I’ve faked this as scum before. It takes little effort to ask this question or make the request. I would find it more AI if they approached a player and asked them why they were being town read with specifics because it shows an interest in seeing if the reads on them are fake or not.

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I asked the same question earlier romance and they voted me for it. So I feel ya.

I think I’m wrong on Elsa.

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VOTE: Sircakez

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OOG references to Titus meet are heartwarming but oog influences! *hiss*

Also, sorry for not coming to the meet. There are a lot of barriers for me to show up for that kinda thing. *jobs*~

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Romance would you say you replace out more as scum than town?
This isn’t accusatory. I’m asking mainly because I dunno. I don’t really know what excites you about mafia. I’m not sure what motivates you. I’d like to know what that is.

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Um. Romance already outright said they were ydrasse.

They just play on alts a bunch.

Also, I don’t think I’d ever TR Ydrasse early game. Because I think she’s pretty good at getting town read as scum early game.

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Um. Romance already outright said they were ydrasse.

They just play on alts a bunch.

Also, I don’t think I’d ever TR Ydrasse early game. Because I think she’s pretty good at getting town read as scum early game.

...I mean, clearly not if you look at how this game is going...

There's not a lot to poke. I feel like it's for pressure

My motive wasn't specifically to pressure you, per se, inasmuch as it was to say, "hey everybody, take a closer look over here and tell me what you think!"

That said I'd feel much better about your slot if you made a push that resonated with me.

The only person I'd really want to go on right now is Qrow I guess. I don't like them stepping back like they did and have given small weird pings. Nancyhead hasn't impressed either in her presence.

I've had some weird fleeting thoughts about there being scum in Qrow/RealCheeks/Head1+2 and I don't know if it's because they're all hydras and there's weird dissonance from two people expressing themselves or what. Maybe in the way they interact. I think of those three the least like to be scum is RCE+Cheeks. The meta townread that RCE threw at me with Cheeky after our back and forth early game didn't feel like it was just to placate me, nor did they have to actually placate me at that point given my level of engagement. It feels like a genuine realization of "oh, this is different from Team Mafia" and thus recalibrating from it.

The Mystic Bears hydra I'm just not engaging with this early on. Noraa always finds me weird or scummy early on in games like these (from what I recall at least, in Titus v Nancy Drew and Happy Face ) and then we get into spats that I really don't feel like doing for a third time again. That's too much to deal with in a game I'm already not vibing with a lot.

A lazier town bell would say that your first part of your post is a scum slip. Lol.

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A lazier town bell would say that your first part of your post is a scum slip. Lol.

Parrot?

Cracker?

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row/raven+ Toog+ wheme.
/:

Am I totally off?

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If you want me to talk about anything in particular you're going to have to ask.

I've already said I feel like my thoughts aren't falling in line with how everyone else is approaching this and it's not a fun experience at the moment, so. Whatever is important I guess throw at me.

Didn’t mirio just directly contradict this statement by saying that you’re largely holding the same opinions he is?

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Were you in death curse?

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I dunno, I just never have much luck reading gamma and this game isn’t much different. He’s half focused on side topics and half focused on hunting and I’m not sure if that’s scummy or townie.

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I dunno, I just never have much luck reading gamma and this game isn’t much different. He’s half focused on side topics and half focused on hunting and I’m not sure if that’s scummy or townie.

It's scummy.
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Why?

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VOTE: Whemestar

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Why?

Consider me an expert on all things Gamma. Aside from that Nancy seems legitimately deflated to have rolled scum, again.
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Noted. Ty.

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You cased yourself at the beginning of the game.

I vaguely feel that gamma is buddying me.

Wheme is just passing by.

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Wouldn’t be against booting someone out of the raid and adding myself.

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There is no nomination.

You just join.

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More wheme votes.

Also what happens if we eliminate someone in the raid?
Does the raid fail?
Does someone replace them or does it just reduce the number of players that confer a benefit from the raid?

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Happy with my vote.

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I want to lim Toog just because a body snatcher clearly consumed him.

Also hi.

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Join raid

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More Wheme votes.

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VOTE: Join raid

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Sorry you’re having a bad time Mastina. Yeah, time is what you need, probably.

@Wheme: sure. I’m voting you almost for the exact reason Mirio is. That is, no content at the time. The current content is not there either. I know you’re sorta floaty and easy going. And perhaps the votes are showing a side of you I haven’t seen yet.but Rn, I’m not feeling’ your town game.

Side note: I don’t know if AA9 Ellie telling counts.

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I'm caught up. But I pretty much don't have anything additional to state. As nothing really substantial seems to have happened since I posted this morning.

Flea being on the narrow is somewhat unexpected. But otherwise, I guess I'm waiting for Wheme to obvtown.

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Flea being on the narrow is somewhat unexpected. But otherwise, I guess I'm waiting for Wheme to obvtown.

BELL WANNA TALK ITS TEH BEST WAY FOR ME

Gut feelings on everyone Just talk it all out, go.

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Ah man my post got deleted.

1. Commentary about signing up for this game for the last 3 or 4 pages.
2. Asking Wheme why he said he was gunna obvtown if he doesn’t know how to obvtown.

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I’m here. I want us to consolidate.

I have no feelings on Mom. Zero.

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Okie doke Titus.

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Only thing I have to contributeute( and contribution is a stretch) is that arkangel’s English appears to have significantly improved or she’s using a translator or something? Since last game I played with her.

Not sure what it means, if anything.

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Why would town or scum defend a tabula rasa?

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The best I can say about Momrangel this game is that they probably wouldn't be no-contenting and at least make a token effort out of obligation for their partners if they were scum this game.

But I think they struggle with demotivation syndrome as scum. Though, usually they at least give it a fair shake at the beginning.

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A contrarian effort has been made.
It doesn't sound very good, does it?

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Gunna air it, while I'm at it.

There is only one thing that worries me about Mastina this game and that is that they have meltdown's when they're scum but I haven't experienced them having any when they're town.
I'm sort of lost if they just scum claimed out in the open like that, or if this is just a new side of her.

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Okay so arc is evil right let's consolidate?

Either I keep up the streak of mislimming her or I get a dub

Ew.

mm, are you objecting to the morality of the statement rather than the alignment of it?

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I don't know her recent activity patterns.

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I've had my cat for 8 years now, love him to death, but he still looks at me like I'm the drunk step-dad coming home from the factory.

You should get a dog. Sitka is always happy to see me and the walks my presence facilitates.

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What are they desperate for?

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You lost me Qrow,
what do you mean?

Of course it's not entirely accurate. If those kinds of reads were, mafia would be pretty easy.

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Not following Mandel,

do you mean they're desperate to read AA9 correctly for once, that they want a miselim badly, or that they're deflecting or something?

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I vaguely recall mastina maybe feeling under-the-weather like this before as town, and even if not, I don’t support reading into someone’s emotional welfare on that level

-Qrow

I do. I play mafia in part because I like the idea of trying to understand other people. I don't mean it negatively or in a judgmental way. My read accuracy is also pretty poor, so I have a long way to go.

Not following Mandel,

do you mean they're desperate to read AA9 correctly for once, that they want a miselim badly, or that they're deflecting or something?

Not a fan of the leading question.

They're obviously desperate to eliminate AA9. I have no way of knowing at this point the motive behind it or the result.

- House

If it was obvious, then it obviously wasn't obvious to me.
I'm not familiar with your understanding of the words leading questions. Usually a leading question implies guilt. I just sort of shotgunned a bunch of different guesses of what you might've been implying.

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2 of those do.
1 of them doesn't. /:

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Don't be, it's normal.

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mm.
So I can back up and just retread with context. I think some scum pick on moral failings of players rather than focusing on other player's alignments (unless a player is saying something pretty objectionable to realistically elicit a response).
I was poking at you to see which you might go with. When you responded, I wasn't sure if you were being intentionally vague/demurring or if you really thought it was obvious. I'm sort of a literalist, so I prefer more concrete statements especially for later in the game when there's more information.

@Qrow, Aight.

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If P -> Q then Pr (P) <= Pr (Q) because Pr (P and Q) = Pr (P)

P = me being scum
Q = Arc being scum

P -> Q is that me being scum means Aa9 is scum.

VOTE: Dwlee

I oppose algebra-like equations with a passion. Scum are also known for using math.

That's also a meme vote because I don't think my vote is doing much now. So I'm waiting for a signal of who to vote for from someone I trust.

This is such a weird post for scum to make, but I can't put my finger on why.

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I don't pay attention to any page tops but mine.
So no. I don't really remember him aiming for page tops or at least, I didn't find it memorable enough for it to be associated with him.

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Bell, mastina, Titus, please join us on Mara.

@Mara: Plz claim.

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I would like to do a quick intervention as this seems pretty irrelevant to the current game and is simply a derail.

I have intervened. If you keep going on this topic know that you're being anti-town and silly and you were told and decided to continue to be those things.

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VOTE: Join raid

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Thinking.

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Cool at the guilty.

At least we have a fall back for later.

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Wait, why would we go after people that were scum reading Mirio in game? (Was anyone doing that and pushing him consistently?)
Shouldn't we be focusing on who he was scum reading instead?

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I'm also glad i could get 2 things right this game.

So even if i die at any point now im happy.

I don't know why but I feel uncomfortable with your string of posts because it feels like an act.

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We have a fall back for later we should pretty much just go about our business until then.

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I know you don't care, lol.
But I'm saying it because it means something when you say a string of vague things, it doesn't really feel like it was spur of the moment somehow even though it was in a string which normally would be spur of the moment or implied it.
I guess I'm saying that it doesn't feel spontaneous.

Maybe I can't tell the difference. /:

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There's not much like hesitation in your choices or opinions in this interaction Mandel?
Why?

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I know you don't care, lol.
But I'm saying it because it means something when you say a string of vague things, it doesn't really feel like it was spur of the moment somehow even though it was in a string which normally would be spur of the moment or implied it.
I guess I'm saying that it doesn't feel spontaneous.

Maybe I can't tell the difference. /:

Would you rather i make it less vague?

No. I just don't know why you're bringing it up at all.

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It feels more like you're trying to position yourself than because you just thought, "ah, shit, I did everything right and it didn't work out"

Though, I mean, if the scum team role blocked you or something, it sucks but it happens.

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*squints at 2060#*
Help, I need a human lie detector that actually works.

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There's not much like hesitation in your choices or opinions in this interaction Mandel?
Why?

Because I'm not jumping at excuses to call someone scum.

Shit days happen, and shit days affect play. These are fairly benign circumstances for someone to be feeling like shit (nothing to really be gained by AtE, here), so idk why you're fishing so hard.

- House

You're assuming what they're saying is true and your reaction has zero skepticism in it.
I'm not fishing, because their full claim actually wouldn't help me narrow it down much if at all on deciding whether their claim was real or not.
Ultimately, if they're scum, they're setting themselves up for a fake claim.
and if they're town they're just venting or gambitting. I'm stating that for some reason, it feels like the former, not the latter.

I guess to you it feels like the former or is this a knee jerk defense(I don't mean this insultingly) of a possible power role?

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Or I guess you're buddying them which may explain the lack of hesitation, but I think the kneejerk explanation is about the same and, I think most of us(me included tbh) are inclined to read Sakura as townie/town. But I tend to spout my feelings in the moment just to air it out. It can come off as mud slingy tho.

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Um. Am I coming off as if I'm applying a lot of pressure to them? There's pretty much no reason to panic, the elimination is probably locked in anyway. If you think I'm making your day worse Sakura, I would be happy to talk about it later. Though, there's not much else for me to say about this right now.

@Sakura, ? it's convoluted but it makes sense to me. I'm inclined based on activity, some townie posts, and such to town read you. But I felt the posts you made in relation to your role felt fake.
I decided to air those, not to dig deeper into your role, but to see how you'd react/respond.

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I have a guilty~.

Like a HARD guilty...!

Why mention this so early?

This just gets some people to not think of anything today ala 'follow the cop' and doesn't let you observe the guilty party to see any association tells.

You just basically told them to shut up and give us nothing. Is that intentional or nah?

This gives us something too because if they shut up they're going to stand out.

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The scum team doesn't know who it is, so it gives them all a reason to do so.
You're thinkin' bad. *bonks you on the head*

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Selfishly I just also don't wanna put up with people pushing me.

Can't say that I don't understand this rationale, tbh.

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Have stuff to do. Was sircakez the scum?

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Can’t we just make this raid fail? It seems to disproportionately benefit scum. Though, I’m not clear on the difference if any between strongman and strong willed.

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Why are you giving scum places to hide.

VOTE: Whemestar

Till romance tells me the other scum we get today.

This doesn’t vibe right

-Qrow

How come you get to meme about the mod showing red but I can't say a miller joke? Bleh.

For the record I'd never claim miller as a miller until someone gets a guilty on me. I ain't no coward.

I used to be of the mind that you always claim Miller/Ascetic D1 but there’s a validity in not claiming it and just playing to get NKed

-Qrow

If you want to get NK’d claiming aesetic or macho is pretty much a surefire way to accomplish that.

~R

We're a macho ascetic pgo.

Same. VOTE: Sircakez

Ttyl. Enjoy your break.

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Don’t drag mod into it cheeks.
There was a whole post about that in the op.
Or I hallucinated it.
But also good on you for a townish post

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Can’t we just make this raid fail? It seems to disproportionately benefit scum. Though, I’m not clear on the difference if any between strongman and strong willed.

Wouldn’t all raids benefit town more than scum

...No?

I'm not sure tht 1 doc is worth the price of however many scum are on it, but I guess, if you think about it, if the scum team is active enough to all get on the raid then prolly, we're doomed anyway.

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Oh there's two doctors. Nevermind.

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Your life to me is worth as much as anyone else's Save the dragons.

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I'll be real with you,
I don't even know who Tictac is.

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Doesn't seem likely and it would be difficult to determine that unless it failed which, I don't think it will.
Scum will still benefit from this somehow. Probably.

That's not ringing any Bells Sakura.
Are you sure they're in this game?

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Doesn't seem likely and it would be difficult to determine that unless it failed which, I don't think it will.
Scum will still benefit from this somehow. Probably.

Scum cannot benefit from this raid as long as i'm in it unless the scum in the raid is a roleblocker or a redirector, because they cant strongman through my strong heal.

You're probably more familiar with all the possible roles than I am. So Okay.

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So do people want me to unvote for now so that a quick hammer doesn't happen or do we not care?

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The vote by sircakez on Elsa feels laden in irony and I can't tell if it's a bus vote (poker face) or a scum vote on town with a (please don't notice me sir) intent.

UNVOTE:

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GIF would never put two c-*cough* doctors into a set up.

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Did tommorrow corp claim even night 1 shot doc.

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Sure. I'd love to hear what Romance has to say.
*looks at Romance with high expectations*

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Not sure,
Also, Gif did one time put two cops in a set up and they ended up killing each other in melo. Just something magical to keep in mind. Though, I wanna note here that I'm not informed and this isn't scum me teasing an answer so don't flip me. I don't know anything. *wink*

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Cool

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If it's me, I dunno.
I know that Noraa has experience being led with hydra dissonance.
But that's all I got.

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Let me reword, it's actually not unlikely that mystic bears would play with hydra dissonance to their advantage.
I just have no idea if they're doing that here. People have their own opinions about how to play hydras and how they play hydras can vary quite wildly.

For example, I basically play hydras as independent players sharing an alignment and don't try to think things through together.

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Not following again Qrow, what do you mean with 2510?

Head one & two. Is it role stuff or "I think that based on my understanding of the mod and furthermore"

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Keep it vague. Is this a harebrained thought or not?

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Sounds like some kind of mixture of the two. But yeah, don't out yet.

@Qrow, aight.

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What in the world was that nk about lol.

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t3 is like my brother, so sad he's gone

Why would you say this

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I’m trying to hunt and here you are with one of the most wrap around ironic posts you could make and I’m just like, it’s hard enough to hunt without people making ambiguous jokes like this.

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Did TC say who they targeted yet?

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I’d say I’m hurt, but I’m super busy so I’ll forgive you all for suspecting my adorable self.
I do think that’s a decent list to start narrowing stuff down though.

Except wheme, and not sure why mandel is so low. What’s the opinion there?

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Everybody not named romance should prolly unvote on the raid rn, tbh.

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Sorry, I’ll add Sakura to that list. I guess. Since they claimed doc first(?)

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I forget, we’re you like that in what was in called. The one with Russian alt and fakeGod in it?

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Yeah okay. You do you then.

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Nornor

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I kinda thought cakes was bussing Elsa tbh.

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I’m not following. I felt that how he pushed at Elsa seemed relatively laced in irony.

It does Cheeks. Though not necessarily multiball, but there could be a vig.

Actually question. Were T1 and T2 the ones playing up that they strongly suspected they knew mod intent with the game design? Because there’s something chef’s kids about dying under mysterious circumstances leaving us all hanging.

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Chef’s kiss*

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We can just wait and find out, lol.

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You see real cheeks just borderline made an irony post, but somehow managed to skim by into genuine.
Why couldn’t you do that Dwee?

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Pretty much waiting on TC.
Also, could someone please tell me where TC and Sakura claimed.
I have no context and no idea which one of them is more likely except by play. But there are other things to weigh too and ??? That don’t make sense for scum to do that I’m not sure of.

I’m sorry for not being able to do my homework.
But like, job.
Very demanding.

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I don’t think I’m being written off by anyone right now. I was written off day 1 and day 2. But day three everything slid back. IMO and I’m in the PoE. That’s just an honest assessment.

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I appreciate that a lot house.
Thank you.

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I’m going to shut up now and wait for TC. Then I’ll just ask the obvious questions if they haven’t already been asked.

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Good morning, just before work.
Gunna ask this the following.

Is TC back tracking on their doc claim and claiming VT?
If so, obviously we should get our ducks in a row and then steamroll TC.

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If all of you are taking TC’s posting as anything other than lighthearted and joking there really is no hope.

Am I missing context?

Also, romance. There’s literally no way I’m scum this game. Because I would hardly be asking for clarification on what they meant if I were scum and would just go straight to capitalizing on their weirdness.

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I feel lost at Romance’s frustration. I’m like 500 steps removed rn. But there are consequences to joke claiming a doc. As seen by a counter claim.

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I wanna be clear that this ain’t about punishing TC.
I felt the challenge here is that I don’t see much benefit to scum claiming doc first.
I don’t understand the motivation, since they were near guaranteed to be cc’d if they were scum and it’s a pointless gambit.
As a joke it makes sense but only from the perspective of what else could they be posting instead?

I dunno, TC isn’t answering and they’re not willing to give a straight answer nor do they seem to care about making a mistake that outted a doc.

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Romance. Why are you angry and frustrated?

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Yeah, I get that romance. TC is an easy miselim if they’re town. Are you frustrated because you feel powerless? I’m not used to you caring so much or being this direct.

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Romance. Why are you angry and frustrated?

I make points and no one listens and scum tap dance on me. (:

I can’t dance and I’m not scum so I dunno what to say there.

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Gotta go work. Rip. Ttyl

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Q: if TC was joking why did they say they were trying to bait an nk?

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You know... i completely forgot AA9 was in this game.

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Glad to see Mastina reengaging.
Not clear what Cheeks is doing that is anti-town rn?

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Are you obiwan kenobi Mastina?