Mini Normal 2236: Lemon Demon | Game Over!

[House]

I would say I hate to say I told you so, but that would be a lie.

Back to my default. Town has already decided to gamethrow, so do whatever.

Sorry,

you

told us so?

As in the person who has been acting like everything's a done deal, who refused to listen to Titus or I yesterday in slowing down for five seconds?

What a joke

Yes.

I did.

Laugh moar.

[House]

And bullheadeded players are going to forge ahead on their faulty assumptions despite being literally proven wrong yesterday.

See: MargotRosa

Case in point.

[House]

If you didn't hammer, and actually tried to talk people down, like genuinely, that elimination never happens

Yes it does.

I'm in your game, stealing all N_M's quickhammers.

[House]

Once a wagon hits E-1, that player is dead.

Anyone who knows N_M, knows this.

So, I snipe it since it's gonna happen anyway.

[House]

@House, How was MargotRosa proven wrong? She didn't want that elimination.

Sure she did, and she wanted mine today.

I miscounted initially. My reads list atm, in no particular order, looks like this:

Town:
T3
Titus
Sbf

Null/TL:
N_M
Shrek

Null/SL:
House
iaaa
Cakez

House, you have massively overplayed your hand. Cakez flips green and you are done

Are we reading the same game, Titus?

[House]

what happened to margotrosa being a sheila

I'm not calling confirmed town scum, silly.

I'm giving receipts to prove my statement.

[House]

but you guys are being MEAN to each other……

She's still butthurt that I opened yesterDay voting her because of my overnight reading which showed her not only off both wagons, but with shit associations with both flipped scum.

Her being literally confirmed town is the only reason I'm not shoving her wagon down town's throat.

[House]

but you guys are being MEAN to each other……

She's still butthurt that I opened yesterDay voting her because of my overnight reading which showed her not only off both wagons, but with shit associations with both flipped scum.

Her being literally confirmed town is the only reason I'm not shoving her wagon down town's throat.

See, it's posts like this that almost make me think you are just really arrogant town. We're all trying to find scum, and you're pissed off that you can't vote out the person who put a little heat on you yesterday

Only almost? You can do better than that.

[House]

Fact of the matter is, Margot, that I'm town, and the only person in this game that has any credibility at properly finding me is Titus.

So if you townread her, check your ego and let her find me.

[House]

If I was scum, do I really leave you alive to continue pushing me today?

You are so lv0.

[House]

oh wait. what if titus is lying about being a miller and its just her as maf. if theres no cop to detect roles beyond t3 as a motion sensor it might be the case

Titus didn't claim Miller.

She claimed town compulsive fruit vendor because it is functionally the same thing as a Miller in a regular game.

[House]

oh wait. what if titus is lying about being a miller and its just her as maf. if theres no cop to detect roles beyond t3 as a motion sensor it might be the case

Titus didn't claim Miller.

She claimed town compulsive fruit vendor because it is functionally the same thing as a Miller in a regular game.

you know thats what i meant. if theres no rolecop then it might be a little wonky of a claim tbh

... Idk. I'll let the spec gurus hash that out.

[House]

i mean if we only have one person claiming fruit each night then thats a problem right? since there should be two vendors left at the very least. house did you get anything?

Fair point. No safe target for the last scum.

No fruit, here.

[House]

PEOPLE WHO DID NOT GET FRUIT LAST NIGHT:
Shrek
House
DGB

tbd: SBF, Titus, Margot, N_M

Updation

[House]

PEOPLE WHO DID NOT GET FRUIT LAST NIGHT:
Shrek
House
DGB
Margot

tbd: SBF, Titus, N_M

Updation

x2

The plot thickens.

[House]

oh wait. what if titus is lying about being a miller and its just her as maf. if theres no cop to detect roles beyond t3 as a motion sensor it might be the case

Titus didn't claim Miller.

She claimed town compulsive fruit vendor because it is functionally the same thing as a Miller in a regular game.

you know thats what i meant. if theres no rolecop then it might be a little wonky of a claim tbh

The reason I gave her claim credence on d1 is because she was opening herself up to investigatives on d1 when we had no idea what kind of roles were in play.

That would be a massive risk to take with minimal benefit, as scum.

[House]

How is that relevant to 1011?

[House]

Public Setup Information

~Multitasking is OFF
~Daytalk is ON
~The mafia consists of

two Multitasking Compulsive Fruit Vendors

and a

Strongman

~at least 1 player has received a Vanilla Townie PM, example below[/area][/b]

[House]

Public Setup Information

~Multitasking is OFF
~Daytalk is ON
~The mafia consists of

two Multitasking Compulsive Fruit Vendors

and a

Strongman

~at least 1 player has received a Vanilla Townie PM, example below[/area][/b]

Vanilla Townie

Welcome, DkKoba, to Mini Normal 2236: Lemon Demon! Your role is

Vanilla Townie.

You have no special powers.

You win when all mafia members are dead and at least one town member remains alive.

Please respond to this PM indicating you understand your role and your win condition.
The game thread is here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87588.

Jinx!

[House]

Public Setup Information

~Multitasking is OFF

You literally carved out the mod info that negates your theory.

[House]

So why say multitasking is off?? I'm so confused

It suggests there may be a town role with two abilities where only 1 can be used per night, whereas scum must give fruit but may also be assigned to nk.

[House]

Fuckery is my stock and trade.

I'm kinda like Firebringer, but he's more fun with it.

[House]

the one conf town in this game.

That just means you can't get mislimmed.

That doesn't mean you magically have some special knowledge and that we all need to worship at your feet.

[House]

I don't necessarily trust House here

Sure you do.

You trust me implicitly because I know when it's in my best interest to give ground even when I'm being shown courtesy.

[House]

Lel?

Sorry man, I'm ride or die with Titus. You've been tossing out one name after another. Titus came in with a theory that makes sense to me.

Besides. She makes me laugh.

[House]

Here's me not hammering, just to mess with people.

[House]

Unvote.

There's still plenty of time in the day to talk this through.

[House]

i think titus should unvote tbh

If you're town, you're gamethrowing right now and risk disciplinary action of eliminated.

Consider your options carefully.

[House]

JSYK, the message in 1047 would still apply.

Been down that road.

[House]

if it was gamethrowing then they wouldn't give me the option to self vote in the first place

They can't exactly remove it, considering the player names agent just listed in a drop down box.

[House]

if it was gamethrowing then they wouldn't give me the option to self vote in the first place

They can't exactly remove it, considering the player names aren't just listed in a drop down box.

[House]

The ability to self-vote is available to everyone because it has to be, in other for scum to be able to utilize it as a strategy to shut down discussion.

Self-voting as town is a valid tactical decision, but when you knowingly place yourself at risk of imminent elimination (such as putting yourself at E-1 with known lolhammers in the game AND EGGING THEN ON TO HAMMER, that is quite likely crossing a line.

[House]

The ability to self-vote is available to everyone because it has to be, in order* for scum to be able to utilize it as a strategy to shut down discussion.

Self-voting as town is a valid tactical decision, but when you knowingly place yourself at risk of imminent elimination (such as putting yourself at E-1 with known lolhammers in the game AND EGGING THEN ON TO HAMMER, that is quite likely crossing a line.

[House]

cakez did it and he wasn't throwing either

and the mods could just choose not to count it anyways. its still an option is what im saying

I don't think he put himself at E-1. DGB did that.

Hm.

Titus, what's your take on DGB?

[House]

like i was literally in zero danger until i mentioned titus

That's because you looked like you were going around looking for a wagon that would take off.

This isn't getting traction... maybe if I push this person...

... kinda thing.

Also, Margot obviously townreads Titus, which is why she targeted her. Scum!you would probably avoid pushing there for that reason.

Big brain moves.

Speaking to YOUR "big brain move", you repellent have been sable to unvote, as you put yourself at E-1 and my vote would have been the hammer.

You're welcome.

[House]

like i was literally in zero danger until i mentioned titus

That's because you looked like you were going around looking for a wagon that would take off.

This isn't getting traction... maybe if I push this person...

... kinda thing.

Also, Margot obviously townreads Titus, which is why she targeted her. Scum!you would probably avoid pushing there for that reason.

Big brain moves.

Speaking to YOUR "big brain move", you wouldn't have been able to unvote, as you put yourself at E-1 and my vote would have been the hammer.

You're welcome.

Ugh. Fix't

[House]

like i was literally in zero danger until i mentioned titus

That's because you looked like you were going around looking for a wagon that would take off.

This isn't getting traction... maybe if I push this person...

... kinda thing.

Also, Margot obviously townreads Titus, which is why she targeted her. Scum!you would probably avoid pushing there for that reason.

Big brain moves.

Speaking to YOUR "big brain move", you repellent have been sable to unvote, as you put yourself at E-1 and my vote would have been the hammer.

You're welcome.

why would i not choose someone who wasnt locktowned by the confirmed townie (DGB or N_M) tho. like i could just kill titus or smth and id be fine for a good while. i dont need the you v margot interaction to keep happening from a scum standpoint because im already safe until VERY deep in the game.

T3 or Margot were scum's only realistic choices, last night.

Margot was kept alive despite the fact she's confirmed town so she could continue pushing me with the hopes the rest of town would just sheep "wrong, confirmed town".
T3 only saw motion, not names, so it's easy to leave him alive if Margot is on the right track because "motion" could be explained away with, "i got fruit last night, must have been from scum".

[House]

Tonight, I'm going to invite Shrek to the neighbourhood, which they'll get into irrespective of whether or not I'm eliminated.

What did Titus think of this decision!?

[House]

! Was a typo

[House]

Also, apologies to House. It is in fact I who was the cunt.

I admit that I did absolutely nothing to declare but should have.

You weren't at all a cunt. You were reading to my abrasiveness.

Sorry.

[House]

I didn't share with her, because I wanted it clear to Shrek when they got into the neighbourhood that it was solely my decision.

That's really unfortunate, because Titus and I work really well together.

Que sera.

[House]

Also, apologies to House. It is in fact I who was the cunt.

I admit that I did absolutely nothing to declare but should have.

You weren't at all a cunt. You were reacting* to my abrasiveness.

Sorry.

[House]

deescalate*

Damnit!

[House]

wtf was that im tired. dgb and n_m basically dont really play so. yeah.

You were pretty much right the first time, tbh.

[House]

yeah im fully willing to admit it was immature of me to self vote, i was just kinda fed up with things and wanted to rub in that i was town as i died because this game feels so incredibly slow

I know. That's why I didn't lolhammer.

Big brain moves.

[House]

sheeeeesh this dude has a big brain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgT6XABqS5Y

[House]

*twiddling thumbs*

[House]

I'm open to the possibility of a DGB flip.

I'm just waiting to see one thing happen.

[House]

I have to be awake in 4 hours, so I should do the eyes wide shut thing.

[House]

I have to be awake in 4 hours, so I should do the eyes wide shut thing.

hey look you already got a head start

That's why you're dead right now, amirite?

[House]

Once a wagon hits E-1, that player is dead.

Anyone who knows N_M, knows this.

So, I snipe it since it's gonna happen anyway.

Gross

If you'd like an illustration, vote DGB.

[House]

I'm just so tired that only 3 people townread me all year and to be lumped with the disposable players. Oh let's just yeet DGB! I'm tired of fighting people off constantly. Just have at it, I don't care anymore.

I have nothing left.

I am not claiming because I am not interested in prolonging my gamelife.

If you're being sincere, just stop signing up for games because you're doing absolutely nothing to contribute.

Personally, I think this is just good, old-fashioned, scum AtE.

[House]

A fruitless endeavour, did we find the fruitee yet?

Race you to the hammer, old bean.

[House]

i can't tell if this post is serious or not.

typically to be townread you have to make an effort to help the town. so far youve been nothing but snippy this game. literally this is the first time youve posted more than one sentence of content

Yeah. At least I make an effort to read people which means in most instances I'll end up townreading them because less than one third of the playerlist will have a red role PM.

For some reason no one even bothers trying to read me. I've rolled amazing town PRs and got killed day 1, I've had a long run of flipping green, and 80% of the players have me in their scumpile in every game. It has a cumulative effect on my relationship with mafia itself, the constant fighting off bad scumreads has become tiresome and I won't sign up for games for a while, I need a long break.

Where have you given us the opportunity to read you, in this game?

Lack of activity is, in itself, suspicious.

I WANT to play with you! I just want you to DO stuff!

[House]

I'm not saying you should strive to match my post count, but there's still a dead player with more posts than you.

[House]

I'm thinking last scum is in SF or NM.

DGB feels genuine, and it hurts me on a personal level that he's so demoralized.

[House]

I'm thinking last scum is in SF or NM.

DGB feels genuine, and it hurts me on a personal level that it's* so demoralized.

Fix't (sorry DGB!)

[House]

I WANT to play with you! I just want you to DO stuff!

Doing stuff has gotten me scumread to hell and back. If doing nothing also gets me scumread to hell and back... I know which option to choose so as not to waste my time.

Anyway thanks for the townread, I appreciate it.

So can you tell me who you think who scum might be, or are you entirely checked out?

[House]

Fine.

Kill it.

IDC. I tried.

[House]

UNVOTE:

hrrmmm

I have raisins for changing my mind.

They're chewy.

[House]

VOTE: DGB

[House]

Votecount 4.2

The Wiggles Hate Each Other in Real Life - Lemon Demon

DrippingGoofball

(3): MargotRosa, Shrek, House

House

(1): Salsabil Faria

Shrek

(1): Titus

Not Voting

(2): Not_Mafia, DrippingGoofball


With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Day 4 deadline ends in (expired on 2021-09-26 17:22:54)

Mod notes:

The music picks are going to be more 'obscure' from here.

Spoilsport!
Koba in here ruining gambits and shit.

UNVOTE:

[House]

Discussion of replacement in a manner meant to encourage another to do so is against

site rules

, and not just my own personal ruleset for games. Please do not do it.

I don't understand this site's rules at all!

Allow me to simplify, don't discuss replacing out in any context during a game. Any desire to should be communicated to the game mod via pm.

[House]

House

's eager to hammer

DGb

is making me
Then the townread on them also HMMMM.... frustration can be genuine but it's not necessarily town indicative from my experience +

DGb

's playstyle is the main reason to get miselimination/elimination all the time which it clearly knows but still using frustration and not actually helping...

1) it was a gambit.
2) not my first lolhammer
3) such gambits work best when don't buy a known lolhammerer
4) mod interfered in my gambit with a VC, which prevented honest responses to the fake hammer.
E) all of this is probably above your head anyway

[House]

@Titus just how solid are you on Shrek?

[House]

Wait...

What's the last fruit count?

[House]

Y'all want to see a big brain move?

VOTE: Titus

Friendly Neighbor only confirms the sender. The recipient is not confirmed town to the sender.

I'm betting Margot is wrong and Titus has us dancing to her tune.

That explains her trying to keep Shrek in the lim pool.

[House]

PEOPLE WHO DID NOT GET FRUIT LAST NIGHT:
Shrek
House

SF
N_M

tbd: Titus, Margot, DGB

Edited by me

Time out, how do you know N_M didn't get fruit?

[House]

Y'all want to see a big brain move?

VOTE: Titus

Friendly Neighbor only confirms the sender. The recipient is not confirmed town to the sender.

I'm betting Margot is wrong and Titus has us dancing to her tune.

That explains her trying to keep Shrek in the lim pool.

margot is a neighborizer she said

Oh right, scum side is open.

Paranoia strikes again, lol. It's not a game unless I call Titus scum.

UNVOTE:

[House]

Wait, that still means Titus can be scum.

Duh.

VOTE: Titus

[House]

Margot is a Neighborizer, that doesn't change my theory at all

Titus claimed Miller. Shrek wanted to call her on that before, I think, but I objected.

[House]

VOTE: titus

thats what ive been saying lol. if im scum like she says then my best play would be to stay silent and let house/dgb/n_m get limmed one after the other since SBF townreads me, not try to needlessly widen the limpool. i fail to see how titus is fruit vendor miller if we dont have a rolecop imo

Hey man, I gave credit!

[House]

Lemme clear things up for you: Titus is scum.

[House]

Nah. She's just scum.

My read is independent of her claim. The claim issue supported it.

She's scum for raisins™

[House]

One thing,

T3

died because they were rolecoped (which confirms mafia has rolecop) or there was another reason which I'm not seeing it?

Maybe they killed him because he claimed right here in the game thread.

[House]

Public Setup Information

~Multitasking is OFF
~Daytalk is ON
~The mafia consists of

two Multitasking Compulsive Fruit Vendors

and a

Strongman

~at least 1 player has received a Vanilla Townie PM, example below[/area][/b]

Vanilla Townie

Welcome, DkKoba, to Mini Normal 2236: Lemon Demon! Your role is

Vanilla Townie.

You have no special powers.

You win when all mafia members are dead and at least one town member remains alive.

Please respond to this PM indicating you understand your role and your win condition.
The game thread is here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87588.

Koba should be modkilled for posting his role pm.

[House]

???????

i got vended fruit wtf

I don't believe this

Lol scum claim?

[House]

Anywho, I want N_M made dead, today.

His slot is poison to town in ELO.

[House]

Anywho, I want N_M made dead, today.

His slot is poison to town in ELO.

Shrek is scum though. :/

Ok.

I respect your opinion.

[House]

Anywho, I want N_M made dead, today.

His slot is poison to town in ELO.

Shrek is scum though. :/

Ok.

I respect your opinion.

Well, if I'm reading that right for now, we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm not down for a policy. I am open to discussion on scumreads though.

N_M literally hasn't done shit but coast this game.

I refuse to lose to that.

[House]

Whomever last scum is, is either Titus, or has no clue what a bad idea it is to leave both of us alive together.

SF kill looks like an attempt to shade me, because she was voting me before her compromise vote.

I am going to laugh so hard if Titus & I are both alive in F3.

[House]

I say it here, it comes out there.

[House]

Lol.

[House]

actually no

VOTE: House for pushing a n_m policy lim a day before eLo as well as the previous cases compiled against him

Lol

[House]

VOTE: Shrek for now, and go from there

If this is what you two want, I'll sheep.

[House]

they hated jesus because he told them the truth

Not me. I visit the sins of the father upon the son.

God killing countless innocent children for the decision of a "bad man" instead of simply killing the "bad man" makes such a deity itself evil.

[House]

Don't care. I call out bullshit when I see it.

Kinda like your posting this Day, which has had a markedly different tone from the rest of the game.

[House]

wheres your vote at then

The day has just started.

Your complete disregard for the potential of N_M being placed in position to lolhammer you is noted, though

Feeling demoralized, are we?

[House]

and? everyones had their chance to chime in. i already told you why im not scum. go ahead and put me to e-1 if youre so sure

What about my posts has given you the idea that "I'm so sure"?

Quote it and describe your perspective of what you read in it.

[House]

you called my posting today bullshit and said that youd sheep them lmao. i already gave you my claim of VT, its up to you whether you believe it or not. if you really are town just vote titus tomorrow when margot dies

There's more than one reason for a change of tone.

I don't believe I've said or hinted the word "bullshit" about anything you've said toDay.

[House]

Don't care. I call out bullshit when I see it.

Kinda like your posting this Day, which has had a markedly different tone from the rest of the game.

Bullshit was in reference to the meme, for reasons I've already explained.

[House]

Though fair to point out the inference in the second sentence.

[House]

Tone change + all of a sudden wanting me dead IS bullshit, but i don't know whether it's SCUM bullshit.

If that's where Margot & Titus want me to vote, I'll end the Day there... but I don't think we're at the end of the Day, yet.

[House]

Yep.

That's me.

I always sheep & fly under the radar.

Ya got me officer.

*holds wrists out to be cuffed*

[House]

well i dont know your meta, im just trying to look over information and come to a rational conclusion based on the motivations of people present. also its 100% you or titus anyway so im weighing which of you is more likely in the first place

maybe explain your town and scum meta to me then?

Never trust self meta.

Anyone that can accurately describe it can also manipulate it.

My games are in my post history.

[House]

Shrek, wanna see a spicy take?

[House]

shoot

VOTE: Shrek

I'm ride or die with Titus.

[House]

UNVOTE:

N_M vote that ISN'T a hammer?

I didn't know he could do that.

[House]

Oh. It was.

I just woke up. Blah.

[House]

Here we go. Time for House to read up.

The town is burning down and I need my firefighter.

[House]

My major hangup is why Margot was left alive as long as she was.

There's a lot of eyeballs in that "super top sekrit" neighborhood.

[House]

It's only care to give N_M a chance to speak before we proceed.

[House]

Fair*

[House]

Honestly, I'd rather lose to you than him at this point, as you've actually been playing the game, so I hope he has something to contribute if he's town.

[House]

VOTE: House

Lol.

VOTE: N_M

Congrats on your win, Titus.

[House]

FTR, I'm pretty sure Titus was true claiming as scum and planned on voting her today.

This loss is on your head, N_M.

[House]

Are votes no longer locked in ELO?

[House]

UNVOTE:

[House]

N_M, Titus is one of few players on this site can read me properly.

You've seen me make this claim countless times, and that's because it's true.

If I'm scum, there's no way I leave her alive until F3.

As far as how I know SHE is scum, I'm not saying. There's things town her does that only town her does, and I've seen none of that.

I specifically told Shrek that, "I'm ride or die with Titus" to make it to today TO vote for her, because I doubted it was him but would not be able to sell a hammer on her on E-1 without outing information I don't want made public.

And who knows, maybe I can't convince you either, but my ability to get a bead on Titus is worth more than want single game, and I'm fine with losing to protect it.

VOTE: Titus

[House]

I GOT YOU, Titus!

My tells fucking WORK!

[House]

[House]

N_M, ask yourself why confirmed town Margot lived so long.

[House]

I wasn't even in the hood until last night!

[House]

[House]

Congrats, N_M.

We just lost.

[House]

I told you so, N_M.

GG all, ty for modding, Koba!

[House]

Also, @Titus, I never meant that I felt bad about the fact that I felt manipulated. It was a really interesting learning moment, and generally a very cool game.

Like, I think at the end of the day, I Town locked you because you were nice. You played perfectly well, and genuinely good job

Better to have a polite doctor with a good bedside manner and die than have a mean doctor and live, amirite?

[House]

[House]

Shrek basically had to be eliminated or I lost. My only saving grace was that I was on none of the miselimination wagons because not mafia kept hammering.

Excuse me?

[House]

Votecount 2.FINAL

Spiral of Ants - Lemon Demon

Alchemist21

(6): SirCakez, Shrek, ChaosOmega, T3, DrippingGoofball, House HAMMERED

SirCakez

(1): Titus

ChaosOmega

(1): Alchemist21

Not Voting

(3): Salsabil Faria, MargotRosa, Not_Mafia

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

Mod notes:

Titus and House VL/A 17/9-20/9[/area]

Votecount 3.FINAL

Jaws - Lemon Demon

SirCakez

(5): SirCakez, Shrek, T3, DrippingGoofball, House HAMMERED

House

(1): MargotRosa

Not Voting

(3): Titus, Salsabil Faria, Not_Mafia

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Mod notes:

Titus and House VL/A 17/9-20/9
HE WAS IN A MOVIE YOU SHOULD WATCH IT IT'S CALLED JAWS

I got my hammer time in, as well.