Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn Mafia (Game Over)

[Mandelbrot]

Regardless RealCheeks is a probably strongman that is out of shots vs finding the Roleblocker, so idk why you guys wanna go RealCheeks.
More specially surprised with Romance because she'll just get roleblocked again if the roleblocker is still alive.

As long as red flips, I consider it a win.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Ok If you have strong evidence to believe that Strongman started with 1s and is in {us, Mandelbrot, MB} then I guess it's fine, I'm just concerned that there's a possibility the PoE has been done incorrectly because I know I'm town, have reasons to kind of see the other two as town as well.
~C

Why do you have reasons to kind of see us as town?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I won't cry tears if AA9 is hammered.

Not real ones, anyway.

She heard townread me for defending her forever ago and as far as I can tell has done nothing to update or reconsider that read. She just hung her hat on it and dismissed me as a concern pretty much straight out of the gate.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Btw AA9 claim your flavor at your earliest convenience thx

I am Papalymo

Scratch my last post.

AA9 is one of my peeps.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

@Toog: Roleblock = Stun?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

@Toog: Roleblock = Stun?

- House

Blah, that's for XI.

I think stun is more a blu spell in XIV.

[Mandelbrot]

Lol at RC chomping at the bit to get a wagon on us without actually voting us.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Also this is the last Sakura post im replying to today.

How about mine?

Since you have time available now, will you address my post?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Well I do think Mandelbrot is the scum on it. House has pushed all these people today and yet he isn't voting any of them but instead is basically naked voting Arcangel. And he's yelling at me for not voting him like what the fuck he isn't voting me either?

Remind the class where my vote is.

(Hint: verify your assumption)

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Well I do think Mandelbrot is the scum on it. House has pushed all these people today and yet he isn't voting any of them but instead is basically naked voting Arcangel. And he's yelling at me for not voting him like what the fuck he isn't voting me either?

Remind the class where my vote is.

(Hint: verify your assumption)

- House

Oh right i saw that. I dont get what you want me to say. Like you just want to be like haha no im not CURRENTLY voting arcangel. Ok cool good for you like what's your point

My point is your entire push is based on either a completely fucked up view of my position or a flat out lie.

Just curious which one it is.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I'd be inclined to believe you if you say View Askew, because I'm a sucker for Kevin Smith references.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

this "townier than thou" attitude is getting old

Oh come on, it hasn't even reached its first birthday!

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Ok.
VOTE: AA9

L-1

VOTE: AA9

WHAAAAT

[Mandelbrot]

Ok.
VOTE: AA9

L-1

VOTE: AA9

WHAAAAT

what made you decide to vote AA9 now

I hammer.

[Mandelbrot]

Its true, House is like Not_Mafia 2.0

-F

At least you consider me an upgrade.

[Mandelbrot]

If she is town not my fault

Given how adamant you’ve been about how this time is different, I’m not willing to give you this.

-Qrow

Sounds like Qrow knows something we don't know.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

It's only fair.

I know stuff that Qrow doesn't know.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

VOTE: JOIN RAID

Let's save some time.

We are a

Modified Temporary Neighborizer Listener

. We submit 2 players to be Neighborized during the day, and we can read the PT but not participate in it.

Yume and I have both crumbed aspects of this role.

Yume, in 47 and by using the name Sauron (the great eye)

I crumbed in 930. I also posted "Communication is key." At least once per Day.

Our ability is triggered during the day. We have no night actions. That's why I said we couldn't be roleblocked, before. Cakez was our counter (more on that in a second).

D1, we submitted Titus & dwlee. This was crumbed in 1986/1988/2007. dwlee can confirm.

D2, we submitted Titus & H1H2 because I wanted to get their info in a controlled environment. (2513/2544) Unfortunately, Cakez used his role to shut down neighborhoods before he died, so the PT never opened, we just got an error PM. Refer to Titus' 2920.

D3, we submitted Titus & Romance. (3713/3931)

D4, we submitted Romance & Sakura. (4306/4315)

Our role fits our flavor perfectly, because Tataru is the gatekeeper for the Scions' base. She decides who is allowed inside.

[Mandelbrot]

Not to be the guy that’s late to realcheeks but why him instead of wheme?

For one thing, Romance's Last Will in the hood.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

VOTE: JOIN RAID

Let's save some time.

We are a

Modified Temporary Neighborizer Listener

. We submit 2 players to be Neighborized during the day, and we can read the PT but not participate in it.

Yume and I have both crumbed aspects of this role.

Yume, in 47 and by using the name Sauron (the great eye)

I crumbed in 930. I also posted "Communication is key." At least once per Day.

Our ability is triggered during the day. We have no night actions. That's why I said we couldn't be roleblocked, before. Cakez was our counter (more on that in a second).

D1, we submitted Titus & dwlee. This was crumbed in 1986/1988/2007. dwlee can confirm.

D2, we submitted Titus & H1H2 because I wanted to get their info in a controlled environment. (2513/2544) Unfortunately, Cakez used his role to shut down neighborhoods before he died, so the PT never opened, we just got an error PM. Refer to Titus' 2920.

D3, we submitted Titus & Romance. (3713/3931)

D4, we submitted Romance & Sakura. (4306/4315)

Our role fits our flavor perfectly, because Tataru is the gatekeeper for the Scions' base. She decides who is allowed inside.

Fix't. Sorry

[Mandelbrot]

I find it strange that we narrowed down the RB to wheme or AA9 and now there's a wagon on us lol. Starting to feel paranoid about Sakura, given I don't think scum risk wasting a shot on cop with doc when theres only one kill per night which means either it was a strongman shot or Sakura may be scum.
~C

There's a confirmed roleblocker.

Cool so why are you voting us instead of the roleblocker?
~C

Only one way to find out whether she is or not.

VOTE: RealCheeks

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Right so you're going to follow bad town reads instead of the logically optimal PoE?
Fml.
~C

I'm a fan of wills.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

You're still in the strongman PoE and you're townreading the other strongman contenders.

If you feel the need to justify it, then there's a problem. You're moving the goal posts and you know it is smarter to kill the roleblocker than the strongman. I know that we need to be flipped, I'm just pissed off its because you guys are silly enough to listen to Romance and not because it's the optimal thing to do.
~C

If it makes you feel better, I don't care which role you are.

Red is dead.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

so masina went kinda full-hog on the dishonest rhretoric yesterday, but hey, confirmable role so let her confirm it.
the pool of

possible

very likely rbs is [StD,

QR

, wheme]
take a wild guess on who I think it is.

hint:
VOTE: QR

not touching the raid today.
i think massclaim-day should be today or tomorrow. today would be my pref.

cheeks-hate is nka or?
their flavorclaim seemed a risk for no benefit if not actually vt (will confirm I am also). can't be cakes result on me n1 since they used that 4 pts apparently.

Speaking of

VOTE: join raid

I will do it just to spite you since you’re so stupidly deathtunnelled on us.

~R

FYI, if today's raid fails, you're pretty much the default lim.

That's if we don't switch wagons to get rid of you instead.

I'm down for either, Sakura.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Homie what is recent history here?

Just my hopes and dreams, and the fact they have yet to come to fruition.

- House

If I'm right about what you're hoping for I suspect you'll be disappointed

You sure have a way of disappointing a guy.

- House

I might be able to elaborate

This would be a good Day to do that when you have the time.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Homie what is recent history here?

Just my hopes and dreams, and the fact they have yet to come to fruition.

- House

If I'm right about what you're hoping for I suspect you'll be disappointed

You sure have a way of disappointing a guy.

- House

I might be able to elaborate

This would be a good Day to do that when you have the time.

- House

Titus didn't ask about my role, is that enough elaboration? Also I decided to skim what was said and there's actually not even confirmation of a roleblocker rn right? Because romance was 1-shot it's possible scum knew that and that is why she wasn't dead, not because they could roleblock her?

Not really.

Had you not been leading her on by saying you wanted her to claim any guilties you got and vice versa, maybe.

That said, the fact we got to d5 alive with you knowing about us since n1 is a strong town case.

I'm just annoyed.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Mandelbrot ability is not AI, MB is not confirmed either but I would prefer to flip Mandel over MB anyway.

The fact Titus lived as long as she did is AI.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

By the way, there better be other neighborhoods in the game if there's even a fantasy of eliminating us.

That's the only reasonable excuse for theorizing Cakez was not a direct counter to us.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Anyway to reiterate.
We know there's still a scum strongman out there (Titus died with bulletproof).
We know there's still a scum roleblocker out there (Romance was roleblocked N2).
We know Mandelbrot is neither of those roles because I confirm their ability, even if they're scum (which i dont think they are), they cannot be either of those 2, so they're lowest priority

Read Romance's flip yo

2nd shot was granted on first raid yo.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Didn't Titus die after the *strong* modifier though?
~C

Doesn't really matter.

If we were scum, we could have killed her n1 over a VT, lol.

It was pretty obvious that she was a PR in the hood, and she concerns me far more than dwlee because Titus and I tend to find each other.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I think I've shared my thoughts sufficiently this game so I'm out for a bit.

Oh actually if Toog could think a bit more about Tictac flavour matching ours that could help.
~C

Actually another thought - why would scum kill Romance instead of RBing them and killing Sakura? Romance being here would easily have had us elimmed faster than killing them imo.
~C

You're almost as bad at walking away as I.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

If anything that's something useful from Romance. I would say anyone pushing Dwlee/TC in the next few days is scum.
~C

I'd have been more impressed if you had kept that to yourself until the push actually happened.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

You're almost as bad at walking away as I.

I can't help it. I like solving that's why I play this game lol.

I'm in it for the

[Mandelbrot]

{Dwlee99, mastina, Sakura Hana, TC}
{Toogeloo, Mystic Bears, Bell, tictac, Mandelbrot}
{Qrow and Raven, STD, WhemeStar}

Easymode.
~C

I wouldn't hate a Q&R lim, honestly.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

{Dwlee99, mastina, Sakura Hana, TC}
{Toogeloo, Mystic Bears, Bell, tictac, Mandelbrot}
{Qrow and Raven, STD, WhemeStar}

Easymode.
~C

I feel like all of your scumreads are too easy.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Wait..maybe swap MB with STD because they don't make sense with Wheme. Eh I'll iso each one below top tier and reconfirm but it does feel a lot easier now.
~C

Do justify having us barely above the bottom tier.

That's a grudge read, lol.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

{Dwlee99, mastina, Sakura Hana, TC}
{Toogeloo, Mystic Bears, Bell, tictac, Mandelbrot}
{Qrow and Raven, STD, WhemeStar}

Easymode.
~C

So who's the strongman?

I thought you no longer cared which was Strongman/RB?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

If anything that's something useful from Romance. I would say anyone pushing Dwlee/TC in the next few days is scum.
~C

I'd have been more impressed if you had kept that to yourself until the push actually happened.

- House

Well I'm posting on the assumption I die today so I probably won't be around to see it and at least it offers some protection/strangles scum from being able to wiggle.
~C

But you specified pushes "in the next few days", which would still be this Day.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Wait..maybe swap MB with STD because they don't make sense with Wheme. Eh I'll iso each one below top tier and reconfirm but it does feel a lot easier now.
~C

Do justify having us barely above the bottom tier.

That's a grudge read, lol.

- House

Fine it's a grudge but tbh I wouldn't have ISOd you and kept you there.
~C

But our ISO is so short!

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I dont, but RCheeks doesnt have anyone in the potential strongman PoE in their scumreads, which is weird.

Honestly, I'm still on RC out of respect for Romance & you.

As annoying as they are, their posts are feeling town to me, today.

I just know how much I can waffle.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

But you specified pushes "in the next few days", which would still be this Day.

- House

I think you like reading my posts since you split hairs just to get me to reply ^.^
~C

I do, actually.

Kinda wish I didn't trigger you so much, though.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Of course, unless you're suggesting that scum has a 2 (or more shot) strongman on top of 1/3 of the raids giving +1 shots and another 1/3 of the raids giving strongman without having to use their shots is nice game balance.

I think you got RB'D D1 and that's why scum let you live instead of Romance since the pool all seem town to me now.
~C

Wait.

So they roleblocked the doc to kill a VT?

Lolno.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

There was a clear on me?

As far as I'm concerned, there is.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Like standard scum play is take out protection, block invest then take out invest unless they felt letting doc live was a better choice for some reason. I know not everyone agrees with NKA but on the chance I'm right, that either a strongman doesn't exist OR the strongman is outside of the pool, then due diligence is to see where else scum could be. From my PoV I know you're wrong, so I'll proactively help you along.

The slots I have trouble with are the cute ones like Bell and MB, there's no reason they're explicitly town but they're both townish and adorable which could bite us in the butt.
~C

Strongman obviously exists.

You're not even trying.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

@mastina & @Toogeloo since this may be our last night using our ability, would you like us to Neighborize you two?

We would have done it before, but I didn't want to trigger paranoia and be forced to out earlier.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

You could be right, it could just be MB but they're basically signing their death warrant being uncooperative with town. Which I don't think scum do? Unless they need to survive to a certain point for some reason?

Didn't Elsa do this too tho

Yip, and MB hard defended it.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Havent they defended every elimination tho

Naysayer Scum?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

If it's actually his own (like proven and mod confirmed), then the chances are lower.

If it was my buddy's, I wouldn't have access to read the hoods.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Oh MB also defended Wheme.
~C

Orly? Must be scum, then.

VOTE: Whemestar

- House

[Mandelbrot]

As I've been saying all scum has to do is roleblock me and shoot wherever they want to shoot and they dont need the strongman for that.

Then vote Wheme, no?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Ok I misremembered the last posts as thinking he was town not too towny so.

Too towny to be town IS a legit thing, for players with scummy town games.

We try harder to look like town as scum to avoid the scrutiny we don't care about as town.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Ok I misremembered the last posts as thinking he was town not too towny so.

Too towny to be town IS a legit thing, for players with scummy town games.

We try harder to look like town as scum to avoid the scrutiny we don't care about as town.

- House

You forgot about NK15 already?

~R

Apparently.

What about them?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Ok I misremembered the last posts as thinking he was town not too towny so.

Too towny to be town IS a legit thing, for players with scummy town games.

We try harder to look like town as scum to avoid the scrutiny we don't care about as town.

- House

You forgot about NK15 already?

~R

Apparently.

What about them?

- House

You mean besides them being a flaming open wolf in pretty much every game they rand scum?

~R

That's not at all contradictory to my post.

I'm speaking from personal experience.

If I'm universally townread, kill me.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

i'm willing to help lim wheme to prove i'm not the roleblocker

I'm a little curious as to why you're not at all concerned about him NOT flipping RB & likely leading to you.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

because i'm not the roleblocker?

Doesn't mean Wheme necessarily IS.

If he's not, you realize your head is on the chopping block, right?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Well I just learned something new from talking to GIF.
The bulletproof for 1 night is a single kill protection, not a full one.

That's how I'm used to protectives in general working, personally.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

because i'm not the roleblocker?

Doesn't mean Wheme necessarily IS.

If he's not, you realize your head is on the chopping block, right?

- House

...but i'm not the rb lol

/sigh

Apparently, I'm not explaining my point in a way you can understand.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

because i'm not the roleblocker?

Doesn't mean Wheme necessarily IS.

If he's not, you realize your head is on the chopping block, right?

- House

...but i'm not the rb lol

/sigh

Apparently, I'm not explaining my point in a way you can understand.

- House

i don't think you understand lol

I'm sorry. I forgot that people who have a role can't deny they have that role.

My bad, dog.

You do you.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Ok i was right not to vote yet.

Yeah. Qrow is still on the raid.

#NotAFan

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Ok i was right not to vote yet.

Yeah. Qrow is still on the raid.

#NotAFan

- House

(I'm not speaking from a personal perspective here, Gamma)

- House

[Mandelbrot]

So you agree that there's a chance that Wheme isnt the roleblocker?

Sure.

I'd prefer if all of {STD, WhemeStar, Mystic Bears, RealCheeks} claimed today so that we could sort the strongman/roleblocker pools effectively.

But lacking them doing so, by default I'm gonna assume WhemeStar is the more likely scum roleblocker in that group.

We've already claimed VT.
~C

MB is refusing to claim.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Ok i was right not to vote yet.

Yeah. Qrow is still on the raid.

#NotAFan

- House

(I'm not speaking from a personal perspective here, Gamma)

- House

Well you’re starting to legitimately bother Nancy so could you stop trying to spread paranoia about us at every turn????

-Gamma

I mean, I scumread you, so...

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Wait.

DO I scumread you?

Paranoia is just my natural state around you. I know I was feeling better about your slot after our interaction, but then things went well sideways again.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Personally, I think RC still trying to justify a wagon on us after our claim is major scum points.

It would take some Galaxy brain thinking to find a way to believe we leave Titus alive n1 to kill a VT, then not only leave her alive even longer, but empower her to use our scum role to coordinate with town instead of simply killing her or choosing different targets to Neighborize to minimize her information.

She could have paranoia targeted us for quite a while if we were scum, or outed our role before building a town case on us.

dwlee still being alive is even +town points for us, as we've been expecting SOME sort of investigational results since d2, yet he's still alive as well.

On top of that, I've yet to hear anyone complain about Cakez shutting down their hood for a Night the evening H1H2 died, but RC was all too willing to conveniently ignore the logical hoops they'd have to follow in order to reasonably suspect us as being scum after this claim until after I literally shoved the facts of it all in their faces and they begrudgingly backed off "for now". It's not difficult to reach the conclusion that they'll be looking for the slightest excuse to continue their railing against us.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I can't speak for Cheeky but I don't think she's that into you dude.
-R

Exactly. Scum tends to hate town power

dude

.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I can't speak for Cheeky but I don't think she's that into you dude.
-R

Exactly. Scum tends to hate town power

dude

.

- House

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snipped failure to shade

>

- House

[Mandelbrot]

HOLY FUCK I WAKE UP TO ANOTHER 11 PAGES AHHH

I feel your pain.

It sucks getting drowned in content as scum.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

i think that's hammer

Nah.

E-1.

[Mandelbrot]

Let’s note I believe this is the second time TC has tried to quick hammer and it once again is falling on a strongwilled raid day. I was willing to write off some of the claim shit as forgivable but this is a proof of bad faith action on TC’s part imo.

-Qrow

So how bad does it look if *we* hammer, then?

VOTE: Wheme

[Mandelbrot]

Also, I've yet to get a link to the pt, meaning that I haven't had the chance to claim to Toog there.

That happens at the beginning of night.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

If he doesn't flip RB, there probably won't be a hood for mastina & Toog.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

This
VOTE: Mystic Bears

[Mandelbrot]

I'll run this dump, I'll run this dump
- J

[Mandelbrot]

Dipping in to note that I'm good with either Mystic Bears or STD.

Oh, and to

VOTE: JOIN RAID

I should be in on this if we want another night of collaboration without scum.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

And Yda is literally known to be a pugilist and pugilists have sturdy bodies.

A movie so bad it's awesome.

K, I'm out. Gnight.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

It doesn't even have anything to do with you. I dont want to study is probably the main reason.

Oh no yeah, you're totally stress avoiding as a coping mechanism that doesn't work and is broken. You gotta get yourself out of that loop. First step is recognizing you're stressed. Second step is how to deal with your stress constructively or in a way you're good with.

Mafia loop is not it.

I find going out to the range with my 9mm does wonders.

Give it a shot. (Ba dum pshh)

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Anyone that actually tries to sell us as scum after Titus lived as long as she did, the way our role and flavor line up, and the way we've USED our role is just scum trying to save a bullet.

Seriously, why would we burn a night of our role's usage by trying to Neighborize H1H2 if we're scum when we know Cakez is going to shut us down anyway?

That's just fucking dumb.

Cakez was literally our counter. His flip alone makes it impossible to reasonably believe we're scum.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Major kudos to Titus for crumbing our actions, btw

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Is there a 3p role which can save up their shots and take out multiple targets at some point?

Ngl, that would be some hilarious mod trolling.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I'm not entirely on board clearing RC like mastina, I personally thought Day 3 seemed a little theaterish.

My PoE is MB, RC, dwlee, and StD. But yeah, mastina are more or less working on the same wavelength.

Considering we're still alive and a VT died n1 (instead of us, a confirmed PR if dwlee is scum), I think you should strike them from your PoE.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

@mastina not mad about raid failing, tho did get super paranoid when it felt like u were avoiding the test.

You shouldn't be paranoid about that.

She stated clearly that she wanted to save her role for today, yesterday.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Y'all do realize that my guaranteed raid success is an active ability, right? Not a passive.
Meaning, that I have to activate it?
I've not done so, because I only have one shot of it left, and if tomorrow is the bulletproof,

I REALLY wanna save the shot for tomorrow

.

[Mandelbrot]

i was talking about the time before that, when the shotnumber became 1 and she became not rb-immune.
did figure out the not rb-immune thing was probs the mysterious coroner thing. did u go over that btw? makes sense?

I'm not even trying to wrap my head around that, tbh.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

So um...there are some contradictions we've noticed concerning mastina. Like this one

6 players, to contain the strongman and the roleblocker.

D2 (strong-willed) Final Raid Group

1. Dwlee99
   
2. RealCheeks
   
3. Bell
   
4. Elsa Jay
   
5. Sakura Hana
   
6. Romance
   
7. tictac
   
8. Tomorrow Corporation

The scum roleblocker basically cannot be among these names, because if the scum roleblocker were among these names, there was no need to make the raid fail in the first place, and in fact, making it fail would be incredibly detrimental. Which means that the roleblocker cannot* be Dwlee99, tictac, or Tomorrow Corporation.
(*Granted, this is where the 25% on STD not being scum comes from; if Elsa made the raid fail in spite of how detrimental doing so was to the scum, Dwlee, tictac, and Tomorrow Corporation would all theoretically be possible to be scum.)

So the possibilities for the scum roleblocker are:
{Save the Dragons, RealCheeks, Mystic Bears}.
Per the town players being town by play, and the raid poe theory, that means one of those three MUST* be the scum roleblocker.
(*see above)

So if RC is in the pool of names that can't contain the roleblocker, why did you put them in roleblocker pool anyway?

And there is this one:

Yo, at work, so can't deal with PMS and such, or really respond to stuff in the thread at all, but:

I REALLY wanna save the shot for tomorrow.

Meaning, that right now, an unfilled raid will fail.

I just couldn't submit given work.

And what's up with that?

- Victorine

[Mandelbrot]

Also, betcha you forgot I exist.

- Victorine

[Mandelbrot]

VOTE: SaveTheDragons

This seriously needs to die today.

Paranoia about dwlee is fucking dumb. If he was scum, a VT would not have died n1. Either me or Titus would have. It's as simple as that. Get over it.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

look folks: if the scum have a pool of 3 vts to choose between or 4 it doesn't really matter.
mastina already confirmed that she's using a shot today so a failed raid can't happen (or mastina is scum).
it's a super cheap way to get actual confimed info on one of the best players of the game.
the-raid-should-not-be-full

And it won't be after StD is eliminated.

Problem solved.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I'm tired of people saying, "fuck what's best for town, i only care about MYSELF".

That's not town play, so StD can die.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

if i get enough votes i'll claim and then you'll feel like a dingus

I counterclaim.

... too early?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

VOTE: SaveTheDragons

This seriously needs to die today.

Paranoia about dwlee is fucking dumb. If he was scum, a VT would not have died n1. Either me or Titus would have. It's as simple as that. Get over it.

- House

Can you explain a little because I don't understand how a VT dying N1 clears dwlee?
~C

dwlee knew 2 PR's on n1. Titus and I.

Why the fuck is he going to go fishing when he already has 2 positive id's?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Newsflash!

Titus posted a list of roles in the n1 PT and asked dwlee for target suggestions.

dwlee suggested Mirio as the target for both Tracker & Follower.

Who died n1? Mirio.

WHY WOULD DWLEE FOR THAT AS SCUM?

You're welcome.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

VOTE: SaveTheDragons

This seriously needs to die today.

Paranoia about dwlee is fucking dumb. If he was scum, a VT would not have died n1. Either me or Titus would have. It's as simple as that. Get over it.

- House

Can you explain a little because I don't understand how a VT dying N1 clears dwlee?
~C

dwlee knew 2 PR's on n1. Titus and I.

Why the fuck is he going to go fishing when he already has 2 positive id's?

- House

Is there a post from D1 which confirms they knew that?
~C

I Neighborized him and Titus n1, which I mentioned in our full claim.

Him and Titus quickly figured out it was me that did it, because of the way I talked to them d1.

Also, see my last post.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Newsflash!

Titus posted a list of roles in the n1 PT and asked dwlee for target suggestions.

dwlee suggested Mirio as the target for both Tracker & Follower.

Who died n1? Mirio.

WHY WOULD DWLEE DO* THAT AS SCUM?

You're welcome.

- House

EBWOP

[Mandelbrot]

i think this is where i'm at

Toogeloo - probably town due to flavor mastery
mastina - probably town due to role
Save The Dragons - that's me!
dwlee99 - town due to house being town
tictac - i think town due to play
Mystic Bears (Noraa + Flea the Magician) - i think town due to play
Mandelbrot (House + Yume) - probably town
Tomorrow Corporation - i think town due to play

looking in the following for scum

Qrow and Raven (Gamma Emerald + Nancy Drew 39)
RealCheeks (RCEnigma + CheekyTeeky)
Bell

Your lack of OMGUS annoys me.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Assuming MB is the elim we need either StD or Dwlee or whatever other scumread to leave the raid to force scum to NK outside the raid and do the flipping we want done for us.
~C

dwlee stays.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I'd prefer tictac join raid, after they're in the queue, lim StD.

If StD flips scum, mastina's actions go forward as planned.

If StD flips town, mastina consider changing course based on the flip. She knows what i mean.

[Mandelbrot]

I'd prefer tictac join raid, after they're in the queue, lim StD.

If StD flips scum, mastina's actions go forward as planned.

If StD flips town, mastina consider changing course based on the flip. She knows what i mean.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

if I die tomorrow, I want a pt with Massy tonight. Explicitly that.

That's explicitly up to mastina, as far as I'm concerned.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

yea. i don't really expect something House couln't make sense of to be that convincing to me

What a coincidence, because I couldn't make sense of that.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

*strolls in*

It's in my nature to be a contrarian, House.
Check every theory, challenge every belief.
communication is sometimes overrated.

Ohai.

*strolls out*

[Mandelbrot]

Because like me, dwlee is a "Screw you and your meta" type of peep

But is he a " HAI GUYZ, LEZ LEVE DEEZ 2 PRZ ALYV N KEEL DIS VEETEE NSTED!!!11 type of peep?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

PLayed scum with them once, I wouldn't be surprised if they did for the self-clear because people insist on meta and using it badly...

Anyway, I gotta go hobble on a bus.

Being disabled sucks.

_Flea Out <3

That has nothing to do with meta.

It's just dumb to leave 2 PRs alone and kill an unknown.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

MB refusing to consider a town!dwlee world here just screams scum to me.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

So raid needs 8/11. The consensus pool of scum seems to be STD, Dwlee, MB and us so if people have to choose who is going on the raid out of us 4?
~C

Don’t you have any thoughts about who should be on/not on that raid?

~R

Well if it were up to me, we would be on the raid. Since the strongman has no shots left, assuming they started as 1x, this raid if successful will force scum to shoot outside the raid in the remaining 3 names. StD refusing to get off the raid again is pretty much a scum claim because scum want to give themselves a bigger town pool to shoot in. Like if the team is exactly StD/Dwlee and we leave them off the raid then theoretically there would be no NK. If one of the two is scum - one will be the NK and it resolves that slot for us instead of having to eliminate them, we can then use an elimination to check the other.

If you omit us, and the raid succeeds then scum will be forced to kill us if the other person outside the raid is scum, which again saves town a flip.
~C

I would prefer you to be on the raid over StD but unless he jumps off, I don’t see that happening.

I wouldn't.

I don't want either of them on the raid.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

i'll claim if more people get on me but i am asking that you trust me here

It's not like this is day 2 or 3.

5 nights have passed for you to do whatever you are trying to hint you can do, and you've shown nothing for all that time.

Trust is gone.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

this is stressful as fuck and all i have to do to make it go away is claim/fakeclaim as scum

why am i not doing that

So far, fake claims have been less than credible.

That's a pretty solid reason.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Idk who is scum but I like STD

He's a cool dude, for sure.

Damned shame he's red.

[Mandelbrot]

Lol, I can't fake this anymore.

VOTE: Mystic Bears

[Mandelbrot]

i'll claim if more people get on me but i am asking that you trust me here

It's not like this is day 2 or 3.

5 nights have passed for you to do whatever you are trying to hint you can do, and you've shown nothing for all that time.

Trust is gone.

- House

this is stressful as fuck and all i have to do to make it go away is claim/fakeclaim as scum

why am i not doing that

So far, fake claims have been less than credible.

That's a pretty solid reason.

- House

Idk who is scum but I like STD

He's a cool dude, for sure.

Damned shame he's red.

Also what the hell is this Sequence?
Dunno whats worse, the the claim bait drama or House just being genuinely scummy at this point.

-F

Please, do shade us harder.

A little lower and to the left....

.... ah, yeah... that's the stuff...

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I still don't understand how a few people are cleared for townplay but que sera. I feel good that we outlasted romances attempts to lim us.
~C

Considering what Romance flipped, that's not exactly bragging rights.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

[...]
Please, do shade us harder.

A little lower and to the left....

.... ah, yeah... that's the stuff...

- House

Loving the Boosh reference, while you're here, whats the deal housey?
-F

I'm having fun. Life's too short to be super serial.

- House.

[Mandelbrot]

That's exactly why it's bragging rights. Town cop dying wish to miselim us denied.
~C

That kinda of survivalistic attitude is exactly why I want you dead.

This game isn't about finding scum, for you. It's about not getting eliminated.

That's scum right thar.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

[...]
Please, do shade us harder.

A little lower and to the left....

.... ah, yeah... that's the stuff...

- House

Loving the Boosh reference, while you're here, whats the deal housey?
-F

I'm having fun. Life's too short to be super serial.

- House.

Love the thinking, chronic pain has taught me that I did not spend enough of my life just dicking around and having fun, and considering thats mostly what I got up to...

Seriously though House, what was that sequence all about? Looks sus af to me and I don't have much memory of you from my brief flits in game.

-F

I just told you.

You don't have to like it.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

The reasons for town believing there is an RB and strongman are pretty valid.
- Romance claiming to be RB'd N2 onwards.
- Titus was killed and was BP.
~C

Wasn't doubting the role suspicion, was more the soft clearing of people. I hate that because you just know a good wolf will set up to be in that place, it's the kinda BS I'd try and pull.

-F btw, as was the last few.

Aww, your impotent shade not gaining traction?

[Mandelbrot]

I disagree with the assertion that Mandel is soft clear. I townread him but I don't think that's the case

The fact Titus lived as long as she did and never claimed to be roleblocked conftowns us.

Duh.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

House how many pts have you made?
~C

1 per night, except for right after Cakez lim due to him countering our ability before he died.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Fuck soft clear.

I declare us hard clear.

Come get some, scum.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I disagree with the assertion that Mandel is soft clear. I townread him but I don't think that's the case

The fact Titus lived as long as she did and never claimed to be roleblocked conftowns us.

Duh.

- House

Wasn't Titus bulletproof? How would a BP get blocked?

Ya know something, I haven't read like 90% of this game, amma handwave it and come back to it later.

PEDIT - ok interesting... yeah I'm definitely staying off that, thats a power I need to watch over to assess so I'll just accept what the bulk of the game are saying, you may take your biasclear.

-F

No.

Read the fucking game.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I said "come get some, scum", and...

Fuck soft clear.

I declare us hard clear.

Come get some, scum.

- House

The advantage to a soft clear is that it is indeed fuckable, that's why it's soft, its malleable.

-F

Eugh I repulsed myself, brb while I shudder that outta my system

... they do not disappoint.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Stupid WiFi, Anyway.

I'm not claiming without Nornor.

I am not reading the game house, I haven't been well for a good chunk of this and I'm still at a point where frankly spoons are hard to come by.

Would also appriciate if you stop swearing at me otherwise as I said to mastina, my health becomes the priority because your aggression is not playing nice with the intrusive thoughts rn.

-F

Just because you read a swear word does not mean it is directed at you.

"Fuck soft clear" has absolutely nothing to DO with you.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I wasn't even ADDRESSING you in that post, flea.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Read the fucking game.

This, however, is - and I am asking you to not.

-F

Fair.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Sorry. I don't buy into fairy tales and naughty words.

I'll try to be more considerate to your situation.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

You still need to read the game, though.

Just because Titus died to nk while she was bulletproof, doesn't mean that was her role.

Kinda silly that you'd assume I'd hang my conftown claim on a passive ability not being roleblocked. That should have immediately told you there was something important you were missing.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

This doesn't track with a bulletproof titus? Which is how I assume we know about a role stealing role?

What's tonight's raid bonus?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Who says you can't have it all?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Yes, mandel is a link shell neighborizor who also is a strongman.

That makes sense.

Don't forget, we're also scum that left a PR alive for several days & didn't even tell our buddies to roleblock her.

Because that's how we roll, yo.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I actually don’t find neighborizors very townie because neighborhoods are an awesome manipulation tool in scum hands.

The ability for a PR to cooperate behind the scenes with hard townreads is a powerful tool for town.

But I guess you wouldn't know anything about that.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Did we ever figure out if there is a role locker and a strong man or could there only be one.
I believe one shot went through so that confirms strong man but a role blocker is up in the air and the scum might have a different ability?

One possibility that seems to be getting overlooked is Scum JoaT.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I’m really bad with roles so it’s a safe assumption that I overlooked role stuff.
Not sure if gif does joat roles

I mean, mastina is basically a modified JoaT.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I can’t read apparently because I thought their entire role had to do with making raids succeed or not.

That's just one aspect of her role.

She was pretty quiet about the rest of it until last night, and claimed it publicly today.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Forget it. Either mastina has her scum groove back in a big way or they’re just town.

I'm not suggesting that SHE is the scum JoaT.

I'm saying scum JoaT is a possibility BECAUSE she's ALSO basically a JoaT.

If town can have a player with more than one role, so can scum.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I predict a tictac nk.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Considering their last post @ me, I won't be heartbroken over it.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Current nightborhood will contain mastina & Toogeloo as things currently stand.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Tomorrow/Realcheeky solve.

VC 6.03

Mystic Bears (5):

mastina, Tomorrow Corporation, Toogeloo, Mandelbrot, Bell

RealCheeks (1):

Dwlee99

Save The Dragons (2):

RealCheeks, Mystic Bears

Not Voting:

Save The Dragons, Qrow and Raven, tictac

With

11

remaining,

6

votes to eliminate

Deadline: (expired on 2021-10-23 20:13:58)

raid

Raid Queue - Titan

Success bonus for raid completion:

Gains bulletproof for one night

Queue:

1. Save The Dragons
   
2. Dwlee99
   
3. Toogeloo
   
4. Qrow and Raven
   
5. Mandelbrot
   
6. Bell
   
7. mastina
   
8. Tomorrow Corporation

Realm Danger Level: 1

Yeah, okay.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

If Nancy hammers after town reading me like that, that needs to be looked at tomorrow.
Didn't understand tictacs posts but that hammer would be funky. It'd be weird but not confscum.
But otherwise its just realcheeky and tomorrow.

So, you're voting a player outside your solve with your scumread?

That totally makes sense.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Just hammer, MB.

Your "solve" sealed your fate when it showed you voting with your scumread on a different wagon than you claim is scum.

The vanity wagon you're on isn't going anywhere. It exists only to look pretty.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

You could literally be voting your scumread and have the same size wagon as your current vote.

So just... lol.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I do whatever I want.

[Mandelbrot]

Shee-it, we still have over a week in this Day.

No rush.

UNVOTE:

[Mandelbrot]

Pedit: Chicken.

My name isn't Marty McFly.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Dwlee that^ is a dumbtell.
~C

Yes it was, but not how you think.

Bell was coming up with 5. (3+1 + MB = 5; 3 + 2 if MB is town = 5)

- House

[Mandelbrot]

VOTE: MB for the circle

[Mandelbrot]

I can’t read apparently because I thought their entire role had to do with making raids succeed or not.

That's just one aspect of her role.

She was pretty quiet about the rest of it until last night, and claimed it publicly today.

- House

trying to find this. did u just mean when she claimed "there's other stuff" basically?

My bad, I thought she posted it out here too.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

k.
is it clearing and/or verifiable in your estimation?

o and does the use-case of trying to get h12 flip info make sense?

I'll let Toog answer these.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

k.
is it clearing and/or verifiable in your estimation?

o and does the use-case of trying to get h12 flip info make sense?

I'll let Toog answer these.

- House

Like, I can see town motive in wanting to get H1H2's role pm, but Toog probably has a better overall take on what you're asking.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Almost like it has to be done sometimes...

That logic doesn't work when you're voting a vanity wagon and your supposed scumread would be the same size wagon if you were voting there.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

@House can u confirm the 5 names toog listed can be naturally aquired by being familiar with the game?

Note to self: return to this after ketchup.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

@House can u confirm the 5 names toog listed can be naturally aquired by being familiar with the game?

Note to self: return to this after ketchup.

- House

Are you concerned about this?

---The easy option. Put Lahabrea on the Garlean team. Fill it with Gaius, Livia, Nero, and Rhitahtyn, and a few goons in the shape of Garlean Soldiers or lesser named Garlean nobodies

The answer is yes.

The question is what's confusing to me, however

VOTE: JOIN RAID

- House

[Mandelbrot]

RC was a stupid nk. They were mislim bait.

[Mandelbrot]

Oh right, yeah. Question to all of you. Why aren’t you scum this game?

Townies love me this I know
For my role pm tells me so.
Innocent, though often wrong
In this raid do we belong.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Minfilia

i'm a beloved princess who roleblocks town when killed
i'm also an enabler of day access for private topics

you know

something i didn't really want to claim unless i absolutely had to
something i really wanted to get BP for so scum wouldn't lolkill me and fuck people over
something i didn't need strongman or an extra shot for so i stayed off those raids

Your claim is completely irrelevant to what we can do.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Minfilia

i'm a beloved princess who roleblocks town when killed
i'm also an enabler of day access for private topics

you know

something i didn't really want to claim unless i absolutely had to
something i really wanted to get BP for so scum wouldn't lolkill me and fuck people over
something i didn't need strongman or an extra shot for so i stayed off those raids

So, House, this is a a scumclaim, right? As in STD should be lockscum to you, right?

Minfilia is a pretty important Scion. That would be an odd fake claim.

The role actually adds up to me, but as I've said before, it's been years since I've played.

I defer to Toog on this because he's been pretty accurate in his analysis on flavor.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Also, it's stupid to lim StD in my opinion, as if his claim is true I'm sure scum will do the job for us.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

If you think I'd consider it a scumclaim because he shuts down day access to PT's, our role pm specifies that we create a temporary PT for one night.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I bet I just shocked the shit out of StD.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

STD’s role claim does not do it for me because there are a lot of scum enabler roles.

I'm not basing my opinion on the role, but the flavor.

Minfilia flipping red would sort of be like Nero flipping green.

Outside of Alternate Universe scenarios, it shouldn't happen, and her character is an essential one to the storyline.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

There sure are. Yours doesn’t seem to fo anything as it’s incompatible with the only claimed PT role. The only player so far your death would affect is the scum team.

I guess you missed the mass roleblock dealio?

- House

[Mandelbrot]

We need to mass claim to see if any neighborhoods exist outside of the ones I create.

If not, tataru STD.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I thought believed princess meant that if they died the game went immediately to night phase again.

Beloved Princess is a town role that punishes town for eliminating them.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

beloved princess could be scum too

Ok. I've never seen them actually flip red.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Tell this to borkjerfkin house.
Tell it to him.

Shit, I might as well tell it to Flavor Leaf while I'm at it.

They both do weird shit with roles.

This isn't one of their games, though.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

That's what you think. GuyInFreezer, I've held them back for long enough... it's finally time to reveal your main.

That's would be lulzy.

[Mandelbrot]

WoL have been claimed and proven.

Technically,

technically

, this isn't exactly true.

The first part of mastina's claim falls under scum's purview.

The second part of her claim has had one excuse after another for not being verified.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Would scum only have

1

Scion fake claim in Yda? Probably not.

Given our tremendous lead, I would flip StD here.

I voiced a concern in our PT last night about why do we have 2 scum with protection abilities? I can see 1 for WIFOM, but 2 just seems weird to me, and 21 players, 1 kill a night, 5 scum, I just have some thoughts, but they're confusing.

So do you remember when I accused mastina of acting like she had as much power over the game as the mod and she said that, in some ways, this is true?

Nothing about the outed aspects of her claim would justify such a remark.

Juuuust sayin'

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I actually have no thoughts right now.

But yeah do we wanna mass claim.
I’m not gunna unless someone thinks i could plausibly be scum.

We should all, at a minimum, confirm whether or not we have access to a PT.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I’m hurt nobody ever added me to a PT btw.
If someone had I could have gone totally off the rails and miseliminated people accidentally and embarrassed myself.
But instead this is turning out to be my most accurate game ever. Smh.

I'm hurt that you refer to us as a nobody.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Part of me, a big part, wishes we had rolled vig instead, because I don't see how VT's are being nk'ed over "super awesome, powerful" Warrior of Light.

Seems more like the Angel of Light, to me.

- House.

[Mandelbrot]

I'd actually rather only claim to house and a person of his choosing but if we need a claim in here today I can

We can Neighborize you and Toog tonight.

I'd still like you to confirm whether or not you have access to an active PT, though.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Here's my issue...

If there are Masons in this game, I can buy StD's role as town.

If there are neighbors, it's a plausible claim.

The only way I really want to eliminate StD is if there is nobody else that has a PT, because that will indicate that he crafted a fake claim based around how he thought our claim operated.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

That statement is a bit of a fallacy.

Tracker, Cop, and Doctor all died prior to this, and are extremely potent PRs that the scum would consider bigger threats than what mastina outed, and mastina was bulletproof last night. The only other NKed VT was Mirio.

Yeah. 2 VT's over a player that claimed to have mod-like powers and wouldn't clarify on how their role worked?

As scum, I never take pot shots in the dark before killing that.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I'd actually rather only claim to house and a person of his choosing but if we need a claim in here today I can

We can Neighborize you and Toog tonight.

I'd still like you to confirm whether or not you have access to an active PT, though.

- House

Nope and never

Shenanigans!

You had a pt n1, doofus.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

I'd actually rather only claim to house and a person of his choosing but if we need a claim in here today I can

We can Neighborize you and Toog tonight.

you can't because you're going to get roleblocked if i die

Betcha we won't.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

i'll take that bet

Ours is a day action.

Prepare to pay up. I'll take a double shot of Patròn.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

One thing that I think puts the final nail in STD’s coffin is scum already had a flipped role that’s a counter to any neighborhood action for a phase

-Qrow

That actually points to town StD, technically.

Kinda stupid to give scum 2 of basically the same mechanic.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

It points to STD’s claim being straight-up fake actually, as even if StD were town that’s still 2 counters to the same role.

-Qrow

Unless there are other hoods, because Stad is NOT A COUNTER to my role. He doesn't interact with it on any level.

Keep up, chief.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

It points to STD’s claim being straight-up fake actually, as even if StD were town that’s still 2 counters to the same role.

-Qrow

Unless there are other hoods, because StD* is NOT A COUNTER to my role. He doesn't interact with it on any level.

Keep up, chief.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

StD pointedly told me that *I* want him on raids multiple days when I wanted to boot him, so I don't think it's something he made up.

I think it's something he misunderstood.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

that just means you don't belove the princess in me as much as the rest though ;~;

NGL, the complete lack of paranoia about me being deep wolf makes ME a little paranoid.

If your role pm says my death roleblocks town and a player says they're immune, I jump to a scumread on that slot.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

that just means you don't belove the princess in me as much as the rest though ;~;

NGL, the complete lack of paranoia about me being deep wolf makes ME a little paranoid.

If my* role pm says my death roleblocks town and a player says they're immune, I jump to a scumread on that slot.

- House

Huh. Thought I fixed that. Lel.

[Mandelbrot]

we're looking for a scum roleblocker and i thought you were proven not to be the roleblocker?

Based on the assumption that I've been entirely truthful about my claim, which I have, but you can't know for sure. (This is why I'm deathly paranoid of mastina)

I've played in a game recently with Multitasking off where scum explicitly had Multitasking roles where they could use their power role & perform the nk.

It was a strange setup, but this IS a GiF game.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Mod v/la 10/19-10/25

i'm also at work trying to wrap up everything before i go on vacation so thinking deeply about this game isn't at the top of my list

Can't say I haven't been in that position.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Oh I guess now I can out it cause house did. He could be the roleblocker cause it is a day action not a night one

Only if I'm multitasking, as I've confirmably Neighborized every night.

Even when it failed, Titus crumbed the attempt.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

But it happens during the day. You wouldn't have to be multitasking

So, you're putting forward the theory that I am not only a Neighborizer that left a known PR alive for several days, but didn't even bother roleblocking that PR when she's wily enough to lie to my face about townreading me and track me?

Yeah, no.

- House

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Also, I'm 99% sure this isn't the first time I mentioned our role being a day action.

- House

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So dwlee, if I can be scum that doesn't kill or roleblock a PR, choosing instead to take a pot shot that flips VT...

I guess that means you can be scum that leaves a PR that knows you know he's a PR alive in an attempt to pocket him.

Or... Occam's Razor can just shred both of those silly theories to bits.

- House

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dwe is technically correct there. would still be a super weird abomination of a role, so relax.
also where was this paranoid house yesterday when mastina-paranoia was actionable? a forced kil between 2 vts is not further evidence.
day action been out 4 ever.
@tc more committed to the poe than ever

Ask Yume where it was. I've never stopped scumreading mastina. I just stopped droning on about it in the thread because it was pissing off Yume because she disagrees with me.

Which she might get pissed away me again for going back into it, but damnit I want post-game bragging rights when she gollywomps a ton of players out of nowhere and wins the game.

- House

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If mastina is 3p that can bank her nk's (which makes amazingly good sense considering the number of players & 1nk/night), were a lot closer to endgame than we know.

- House

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i don't super think this game is winnable by mastina-scum anymore. kinda why I think shes town now

If she has 7 night kills in her pocket and gains more each night, it's ridiculously winnable by her.

- House

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The flavor that jumps to mind regarding WoL having the ability to do mass damage would be Limit Break... but in FFXIV, limit breaks require a party of 4+.

- House

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I'm gonna laugh if she is a cultist that had to recruit 3 players before unloading done grand attack.

That would just be amazeballs.

- House

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I'm gonna laugh if she is a cultist that had to recruit 3 players before unloading some grand attack.

That would just be amazeballs.

- House

Fix't

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@mastina: if I'm right, PLEASE RECRUIT US!

- House

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I'm not saying I think it's what happening house, I'm saying it's possible

I'm saying it's not.

The mechanical hoops alone strains credibility, let alone subjective factors.

- House

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smh

acting like nobody's ever bussed scum before

Cool.

How do you explain 7 night kills in 7 nights in a 21 player game?

- House

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smh

acting like nobody's ever bussed scum before

Cool.

How do you explain 6 night kills in 6 nights in a 21 player game?

- House

Fix't. Lurn2kownt, self.

- House

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IO

*shuts down*

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I'm pretty sure Qrow & Co are the last scum.

- House

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You've been thinking we're scum for how long House?
And I don't see how scum!tictac wouldn't fish for the same derpclear

-Qrow

Pretty much since the hypersensitivity started. Does not feel at all genuine.

- House