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Post Post #10 (isolation #0) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:46 pm

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It is my suspicion that the Rainbow Knight can be trusted. But I won't assume it until proven.

I hope nobody has chosen to view my messages on Sepia.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #1) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:48 pm

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I am not reading this entire game, so if you have a point you wish to make, please make it more concisely.
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Post Post #17 (isolation #2) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:16 pm

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Perhaps cool is in the eye of the beholder, Knight Marigold.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #3) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:14 pm

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Very well, I shall regale you with my words instead of my lustrous hue.
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Post Post #42 (isolation #4) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:19 pm

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In post 21, The Rainbow Knight wrote:I would like someone to sweep me off my feet.

My ideal dance partner will have to be charming, dashing, witty and kind.

He must be able to protect me during a storm,
be gentle in times of storm and turmoil,
be a rock that I can rest peacefully knowing that I can trust.
be the laughter that I can count on to cheer me up.

I must warn you about myself.
I am very very very paranoid,
Skittish to a fault almost.
I will stay up nights worrying about your alignment.

I promise I will give you time, support, and more thoughts than you care to read.
I will support you, treasure you, and protect you as long as I trust you.
Show me what lies inside your heart and trust me to see you for what your true alignment is.
I like you. It may be a faint hope, but I'll endeavor to live up to your standards.
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Post Post #45 (isolation #5) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:21 pm

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In post 40, Knight Beige wrote:
I didn't exactly hit the jackpot when it came to colors.
Nonsense, Knight Beige. Yours is the beauty of the desert. You may be less appreciated, but that does not make you worse. Every color is beautiful in its own way.
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Post Post #49 (isolation #6) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:24 pm

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I do not think Knight Azure dances to my rhythm. Perhaps I am hasty to judge.
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Post Post #50 (isolation #7) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:25 pm

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To be clear, I am accusing no one of cult associations. I only mean that I sense the noble Knight may step on my feet should we dance together.
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Post Post #69 (isolation #8) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:46 pm

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In post 52, Knight Beige wrote:
In post 49, Knight Daffodil wrote:I do not think Knight Azure dances to my rhythm. Perhaps I am hasty to judge.
You think they are achromatic? Was it the early proposal?
No. I just am looking for something else in a dance partner for myself.
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Post Post #72 (isolation #9) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:49 pm

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In post 56, Knight Lavender wrote:
In post 55, Knight Marigold wrote:
In post 16, Knight Lavender wrote:
In post 12, Knight Seafoam wrote:Knight Lavender, wouldst thou share thy ancestral strategems that we might, in thy own words, become wiser in the hearing?

The false prophet put it best:

Subject: A warlock, a werewolf, and a vampire... [Game Over]
FakeGod wrote:Some more game analysis: I believe that the scum team was particularly weak this round. Getting left out as scum in pre-dance should be avoidable as long as you didn't roll 3 gentleman or something ridiculous like that, and none of the scum players were much influential in the day game. Staying quiet and looking okay is passable, but you're never going to make the endgame pair like that. The mafia wins of the previous iterations had strong dayplay from the scum players, with possible exception of the summer waltz where Luna Fox threw. I agree with Something_Smart that losing the original gentleman 1 was quite a blow.
We go extremely hard to scrutinize every warm-cold blossom of love, and we leave one of the nasties out in the pasture.
Is that not more or less obvious? Try to save the good and eliminate the bad, it hardly needs restating. Why did you believe this to be pertinent?
Twas but a shameless play for the sole purpose of getting the field to think before they leapt. Common sense is hardly assuredly common these days, after all.
I find this reply surprising. I see more of use in post 16 than either of you characterize it, but now that you're folding I wonder if you even meant to say what I believed you had said. I thought it was an insight into the significance of the proposal phase.
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Post Post #75 (isolation #10) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:50 pm

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In post 57, Knight Azure wrote:Oh by the way I gave few dance games a quick skim.
It looks like the one of the biggest problem that is happening in dance games seem to be town leaving the dance, often after an emotional outburst.
I think we should avoid doing that.
Strongly agreed. At the risk of making my hand attractive to scum, I am not prone to obviously suboptimal play.
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Post Post #79 (isolation #11) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:54 pm

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In post 77, Knight Azure wrote:Oh yeah by the way +townpoints for Marigold.
Merely for turning down a proposal? Marigold would have to be remarkably unconfident scum to accept at this stage, particularly considering they are a Warm Knight.
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Post Post #82 (isolation #12) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:55 pm

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How is Rose a warmer color than Magenta, anyway?
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Post Post #87 (isolation #13) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:59 pm

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Don't the Gentlemen have to propose in the less colorful court? They are rigid and less open-minded there, I think.
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Post Post #157 (isolation #14) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:54 pm

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In post 135, Knight Azure wrote:Oh yeah one more thing.
Since there are second pair makings in progress, we should try (I say try because lol4days) to come to consensus about who should be Rainbow Knight's partner. I'd like Rainbow Knight to be paired with the towniest warm knight possible.
In post 140, Knight Rose wrote:@Azure
I think that Rainbow Knight should maybe just pair up with a personal townread. If she is paired with the towniest warm, then won't it just be an efficient Night 2 kill for the scumteam? I guess I'm wondering what your thought process behind it is. I'm not super sure myself.
I don't want to rush it, but I'll confess Rainbow still has my eye if I had to choose now. Perhaps she simply sparkles the brightest. Perhaps it's meant to be. Perhaps I just want to be near the center of attention.
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Post Post #158 (isolation #15) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:56 pm

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Oh, yes, I quoted those because I wanted to say that I think everyone should just choose someone they feel they'll be able to read and work with. Perhaps past dances will show that my way is in err, I am not a student of the art of poise and movement.
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Post Post #160 (isolation #16) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:00 pm

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This Knight can be a lazy one when it comes to their duties, but I am capable when I put my mind to it, and I believe Lady Rainbow may bring out the best in me if she is as exacting as she claims. Plus, 155 makes me feel pretty good about what was an entirely gut townread prior.
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Post Post #161 (isolation #17) » Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:01 pm

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And there I go talking myself into it. But I should stay my hand, for other promising suitors may yet present themselves.
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Post Post #206 (isolation #18) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:36 am

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I am also having a little trouble keeping everyone straight, but I think Azure is town.
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Post Post #228 (isolation #19) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:02 am

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In post 208, Knight Chartreuse wrote:
In post 206, Knight Daffodil wrote:I am also having a little trouble keeping everyone straight, but I think Azure is town.
Can you explain why please? I don’t get that vibe.
I'll give it a shot.
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Post Post #236 (isolation #20) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:10 am

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In post 36, Knight Azure wrote:Hey knights, hey knights.

You know what would be really funny, awkward, eye-soring, and perhaps give your colorful faces a few wrinkles?

A page 2 propose.

Propose: Knight Marigold
I feel that drawing attention to oneself like this is a town trait. Especially as it was not accompanied by any real performative towniness. Azure-scum has little reason to say "hey, look at me!" when they had not otherwise done anything spectacularly interesting.
In post 81, Knight Azure wrote:
In post 79, Knight Daffodil wrote:
In post 77, Knight Azure wrote:Oh yeah by the way +townpoints for Marigold.
Merely for turning down a proposal? Marigold would have to be remarkably unconfident scum to accept at this stage, particularly considering they are a Warm Knight.
Yeah I just realized that all the warm knights are guaranteed to be paired anyway and mention that too.
I guess my little test can only work on opposite way lol.
I believe that the lack of thought that went into this plan is also characteristic of a Knight of Hue. A cultist would likely put more work into ensuring their plans make sense.
In post 135, Knight Azure wrote:Oh yeah one more thing.
Since there are second pair makings in progress, we should try (I say try because lol4days) to come to consensus about who should be Rainbow Knight's partner. I'd like Rainbow Knight to be paired with the towniest warm knight possible.
Although there is an argument to be made for this post as contributing to a scum agenda to nightkill Lady Rainbow, I do not think cultists would be likely to be so eager to lock in their nightkill decision. So I believe it is more likely to be an attempt to organize the town, misguided though it may be.
In post 198, Knight Azure wrote:I keep backspacing this message

I have thoughts but I'm afraid they're stupid

Help
I do not think a cultist posts this. They might do the same behavior but would likely not call attention to it.

None of this is ironclad, but for page 10, it works well enough for my satisfaction.
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Post Post #241 (isolation #21) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:20 am

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Lady Rainbow is not confirmed town, per her own admission. But I am reading her as town.
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Post Post #297 (isolation #22) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:01 am

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In post 267, Knight Crimson wrote:Of course, I guess all early scum declines are performative.
They could be holding out for a better partner, alternatively.
In post 287, Knight Azure wrote:Can we just leave Seafoam out

I feel dumb just going

Yeah

The person who is not posting must be scum

But like

Scum don't really post unless they have to

Or they like being scum
Sorting by post count is unfortunately an effective strategy. I am not ready to condemn Seafoam yet, but I would shed no tears over losing them. Indigo is just as much a nonentity to me.
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Post Post #299 (isolation #23) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:02 am

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Cold take, but Crimson seems town.
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Post Post #397 (isolation #24) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:31 pm

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My reads on the warm knights per request:
Beige: Lean town. I remember liking them. I am not certain this is due to their alignment as opposed to their personality.
Burgundy: Neutral. I think I could benefit from reviewing them. They have made me feel both good and bad at times.
Crimson: Lean town. To answer whoever asked me about this, I simply feel that their solving at the time they were making larger posts looked genuine.
Marigold: I do not remember anything this slot has posted.
Rose: I had a town ping from them at some point. I would need to review in order to find it.

I also feel like commenting on Chartreuse. Although they read as superficially grumpy to me and they've picked a couple fights,, I think that their general disinterest in winning friends during the friend-winning phase is likely to be a town trait.

If these seem uninspired, I blame the similar avatars, but I am also feeling generally slow to trust this game.
In post 359, Knight Azure wrote:
Dance with Burgundy


Did I do that right?

Thank god I don't have to

This is not a date is it?

We're

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Why Burgundy? I apologize if you have already said why, but this surprised me.
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In post 367, The Rainbow Knight wrote:
In post 312, Knight Burgundy wrote:Knight Daffodil - Lean Scum

Why do you lean scum on Daffodil? He is probably my strongest TR atm other than Azure.
Stilted language that obscures their conclusions well after the phase it was cute in. I gave up reading their posts after awhile.
What conclusions have I been unclear about?
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Post Post #437 (isolation #25) » Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:20 pm

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I wished to see whether Indigo would swoop in and impress me. It didn ot seem especially likely, but I wouldn't wish to regret not giving them a chance. Now, I'm not saying they're scum, but I don't believe they're the one for me. As such, and I see this is mildly awkward in light of the above post but I dont really care,
Lady Rainbow, may I have this dance?
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Post Post #514 (isolation #26) » Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:31 am

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In post 442, The Rainbow Knight wrote:
She had her eyes on him the moment he walked into the room, so radiant and confident,
His smile felt like sunlight, butterscotch, fresh daffodils blooming in the springtime,
She warned him of her mood, a tempest at sea, lightning on the horizon.
His voice was calm and measured, an unyielding mountain against the storm.

She waited for him at the center of the room; her gown shining like a thousand diamonds under the lights,
He took his time to approach her; his approach was measured and decisive, his offer firm but gentle,
She took his hands in hers and leaned into him, his scent washing over her like a gentle breeze,
His hand flowed to the small of her back, her head fit perfectly upon his strong shoulder.


They twirled slowly together in the center of the room, many colors merging into one.




I accept Daffodil
I was not expecting this game to result in fanfic or poetry, whichever this qualifies as, but I am glad it did. Beautifully said, lady knight.
In post 457, Knight Marigold wrote:Well, the situation changes at least. I still lean on 1ndigo's behavior being scum-indicative but I'd like to hear from the replacement in the event they aren't.
I'm less sure of this than most seem to be. Now that Magenta has pointed out as a scummy post, I believe I do see in that one some scum-indicative patterns. But I'm not that keen on dismissing Indigo out of hand or insisting they need to be elimed eventually simply for being absent at the outset.
In post 499, Knight Azure wrote:
Trustworthy
: (People who are developed and very relevant to the thread, almost leader-like. Deepwolf or just Town territory. Maybe one person fooling me? Hopefully not?)

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I would be interested in your reasons for these.
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Post Post #522 (isolation #27) » Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:56 am

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I am happy with allowing the unpaired Knights to naturally determine when this phase ends.
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Post Post #563 (isolation #28) » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:42 pm

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I believe you may just be weird, Knight Chartreuse.
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Post Post #624 (isolation #29) » Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:33 am

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I wish we could have gotten rid of Seafoam instead.
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Post Post #633 (isolation #30) » Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:35 am

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In post 632, Knight Indigo wrote:
In post 624, Knight Daffodil wrote:I wish we could have gotten rid of Seafoam instead.
You think I’m wrong on them? I suppose it’s possible. I just thought their posts seemed pretty townie to me but I’m not thrilled that they aren’t weighing in on the me/Magenta/Rose situation. I think I may have been wrong on Rainbow. I liked it that he didn’t think Rose should sit out. If I was wring on Seafoam, I apologize, I hope not though.
I just am seeing glimmers from both you and Magenta that seem town to me. I don't really get why everyone else seems so into Seafoam and they snuck away with a pairing surprisingly easily.
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Post Post #641 (isolation #31) » Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:33 pm

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In post 635, Knight Burgundy wrote:
In post 624, Knight Daffodil wrote:I wish we could have gotten rid of Seafoam instead.
Seafoam is a dead lim. Scum are likely in the warm people.

I'm popping out for the night. I haven't caught up. I just didn't want to prodge. I'll look at this tomorrow. I'm sorry.
Just calling it bad does not help me at all. I'm not into making any arbitrary divisions about where scum are or aren't, it's just a waste of time.
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Post Post #642 (isolation #32) » Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:34 pm

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In post 638, Knight Indigo wrote:I think they’re likely to be in both. As I already pointed out, in every single dance game on this site, it’s been a 2:1 ratio of two different categories - usually ladies and gents.
This is a coincidence and should be ignored.
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Post Post #644 (isolation #33) » Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:43 pm

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I currently prefer Indigo to get a pair. I think all three are likely town, but Indigo is likely more capable of escaping the LHF zone.
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Post Post #654 (isolation #34) » Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:15 pm

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In post 647, The Rainbow Knight wrote:btw is there anyone who would really like to join me in a neighborhood tonight ?

My heart is with Daffodil but I am happy to work with another.
If you're going to come out with this, I'm curious how it works!
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Post Post #656 (isolation #35) » Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:12 pm

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Neat.
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Post Post #674 (isolation #36) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:53 am

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What in the ever loving fuck is that nightkill?

Rainbow and I were convinced we would die, and I have to admit it makes me nervous that we didn't.
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Post Post #675 (isolation #37) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:54 am

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I feel like the only way that nightkill makes sense is if Rose and Indigo are town.

Maybe it's wifom, but... wow
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Post Post #676 (isolation #38) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:55 am

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An S/S pair is probably bad for us here. It means our odds of missing are higher.
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Post Post #677 (isolation #39) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:56 am

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Oh, also, with all due respect Azure, that was a bad move even if you had been right.
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Post Post #687 (isolation #40) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:12 am

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In post 685, Knight Crimson wrote:I don't understand why scum would kill Seafoam.
Me neither. And I did make it clear to my partner that I suspected Seafoam. I don't know how much she conveyed via neighborhood though, I was a little tuned out.
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Post Post #688 (isolation #41) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:13 am

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I think we're just losing this one for sure.
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Post Post #691 (isolation #42) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:14 am

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How much did Lavender tell you about that conversation? I didn't hear much of anything, but to be fair, I did say I was busy.
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Post Post #692 (isolation #43) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:15 am

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In post 690, Knight Crimson wrote:What team goes for that WIFOM play?
I think my answer to this is an S/S rose & indigo might.
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Post Post #694 (isolation #44) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:15 am

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That makes me slightly uneasy!
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Post Post #699 (isolation #45) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:19 am

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I don't think the distribution even matters at this point.
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Post Post #700 (isolation #46) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:19 am

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Why is Beige town again?
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Post Post #711 (isolation #47) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:35 am

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I clearly need to reread.

I should probably look at how Burgundy was being pushed and by whom. Sure would be fucking nice if Azure had let us actually play though
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Post Post #714 (isolation #48) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:36 am

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In post 710, The Rainbow Knight wrote:But he's also telling me he feels uneasy about me which implies he will be leaving me at some point and I'm not sure if it's performative or real.
I'm not about to leave. I'm just having a crisis of faith / wondering if I've messed up. I think leaving is just bad play in this situation.
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Post Post #715 (isolation #49) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:37 am

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It'd be weird if I *didn't* question everything after that shot.
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Post Post #721 (isolation #50) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:41 am

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In post 718, The Rainbow Knight wrote:I am just sad I didn't get a chance to flirt with you yesterday :<
Even if you're an evil rainbow, you're still the apple of my eye <3
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Post Post #724 (isolation #51) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:43 am

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I think scum needed help in this setup so it makes sense to me.
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Post Post #726 (isolation #52) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:45 am

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Yeah. And like, everyone feels town to me to varying degrees, I don't have much I can confidently hang my hat on right now.
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Post Post #744 (isolation #53) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:03 am

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In post 743, Knight Chartreuse wrote:We do not have to “bet the game” on who is town today.
Was that the question?
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Post Post #746 (isolation #54) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:06 am

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I can read. Where does it say today?

Chart, what are your thoughts on Beige? I'm wondering why you are pointing somewhere else & not reflecting at all as your pair is coming under fire.
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Post Post #748 (isolation #55) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:11 am

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You said it was a false narrative that we have to bet the game today. Indeed we don't, but I don't feel that's what Rainbow asked. Eventually, we will have to bet the game, and it's a way of asking about read strength too.

Maybe this doesn't matter idk.
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Post Post #772 (isolation #56) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:15 pm

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In post 756, Knight Indigo wrote:
In post 692, Knight Daffodil wrote:
In post 690, Knight Crimson wrote:What team goes for that WIFOM play?
I think my answer to this is an S/S rose & indigo might.
Why would you think this?
I don't think that's what's going on; right now I am largely on the same page as you. Just recognizing one possible explanation for such a weird kill.
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Post Post #779 (isolation #57) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:46 pm

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Far from settled, I want to reread. But right now Beige feels like the most likely scum to me and Chart has some equity also, whereas I'm less interested in a Lavender vote partly because Crimson has basically no scum equity.

I was going to vote, but I suppose I shouldn't vote hastily in 5v3.
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Post Post #784 (isolation #58) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:54 pm

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In post 782, Knight Beige wrote:
In post 779, Knight Daffodil wrote:Far from settled, I want to reread. But right now Beige feels like the most likely scum to me and Chart has some equity also, whereas I'm less interested in a Lavender vote partly because Crimson has basically no scum equity.

I was going to vote, but I suppose I shouldn't vote hastily in 5v3.
Explain your read?
I don't have a satisfying answer to that right now, my early townread just feels stale and I can't remember why I gave it. Hence the need to reread and firm up. Like I've said, everyone kind of feels town so I'm thinking about degree.

I do want to see how scumreads on Burgundy came about (I'm not saying it's a scummy opinion to have had, Rainbow and I were planning on going that way too, but the how is interesting).
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Post Post #787 (isolation #59) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:58 pm

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Sure.
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Post Post #790 (isolation #60) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:13 pm

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In post 788, Knight Beige wrote:Why is Crimson off the table for you?
-Their day 0 effortposts looked like genuine scumhunting
-Their current reads are not angling for their own survival
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Post Post #792 (isolation #61) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:26 pm

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I am building in uncertainty. I may be wrong. If you are 20% likely to be scum, Beige is 70%, Lavender is 80% and Crimson is 0%, then it's better to elim Beige/you even if Lavender were my #1 pick.
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Post Post #803 (isolation #62) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:44 pm

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In post 797, Knight Chartreuse wrote:
In post 792, Knight Daffodil wrote:I am building in uncertainty. I may be wrong. If you are 20% likely to be scum, Beige is 70%, Lavender is 80% and Crimson is 0%, then it's better to elim Beige/you even if Lavender were my #1 pick.
That’s not how any of that works. I think you’re trying to use percentages to buddy me up but in that scenario you elim Lavender, unless you believe 2-1-0 is more likely. The scenario you presented only works if you believe that. However you seem way too tunnelvisiony. Let’s say you’re right Beige is scum: I flip town. Then there is a minimum one other scum team. (In that world I know there is two). This is why you always elim your number one pick for scum regardless of the alignment of the other player. If you just rip off the bandaid and assume you will end up elimming the partner town it goes better.

You also dodged my experiment why?
I think an S-S pair existing is possible.

I am also starting to think you're determined to have a problem with me if you're going to take issue with something as inconsequential as a number I pulled out of my ass.

Because I'm posting from class, but here's your experiment: Beige, you, Lavender, Rose.
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Post Post #807 (isolation #63) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:47 pm

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In post 804, Knight Chartreuse wrote:if you’re really confident a player is scum you elim them.
I'm not really confident anyone is scum
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Post Post #820 (isolation #64) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:55 pm

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In post 810, Knight Chartreuse wrote:
In post 807, Knight Daffodil wrote:
In post 804, Knight Chartreuse wrote:if you’re really confident a player is scum you elim them.
I'm not really confident anyone is scum
Then fix it. You should be hunting for scum and aiming to flip scum.
Oh, thanks! I had no idea! Wow, I should just try harder and I'll magically know exactly who is scum!
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Post Post #821 (isolation #65) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:56 pm

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In post 813, Knight Chartreuse wrote:
In post 811, The Rainbow Knight wrote:(A) if we are in 2-1-0-0 then the odds of losing today is 50%

(B) if we are in 1-1-1-0 then the odds of losing today is 25%

I would like to eliminate the pair that's most likely the 2 in (A) as that limits our odds of losing the best.
Stop this pessimistic bullshit.
How about actually we play however we damn well feel like?
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Post Post #824 (isolation #66) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:00 pm

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I'm less likely to scumhunt while you're ordering me around and talking down to me. So kindly piss off with that.
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Post Post #827 (isolation #67) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:21 pm

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In post 826, Knight Lavender wrote:Do people think that rainbow could have genuinely missed the reads I sent her?
I can't see what scum agenda lying about it could possibly serve.
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Post Post #834 (isolation #68) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:01 pm

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FWIW, Rainbow never mentioned much of anything to me about anything Lavender had said.
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Post Post #845 (isolation #69) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:36 pm

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In post 838, Knight Rose wrote:My "secret" day one thought was that it was cool that all the flowers were town.
Is it dumb to townread this line?
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Post Post #846 (isolation #70) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:37 pm

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There I go with the rhetorical questions again.
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Post Post #960 (isolation #71) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:37 pm

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I should really pay more attention.

I feel behind/generally out of it. I'm not really sure why we keep doing vote leaves. I'd rather actually vote people up to see how that plays out.
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Post Post #961 (isolation #72) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:38 pm

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It seems like in the intervening day we've somehow concluded that Rainbow is scum. Anyone want to help me see why? I read the missed pages but I don't fully understand.
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Post Post #966 (isolation #73) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:47 pm

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Not getting that much from a beige iso except that it feels like they specifically tried to pocket me.
In post 819, Knight Beige wrote:
In post 789, Knight Chartreuse wrote:
In post 788, Knight Beige wrote:Why is Crimson off the table for you?
I think let’s run an experiment:

Who is on the table for each player? No explanations just answer it. I have a theory.
Rose, Indigo, Daffodil, Crimson, Chartreuse
This is super weird. Did they misunderstand the exercise?
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Post Post #969 (isolation #74) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:48 pm

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They sure like to point out that Rainbow's alignment was random. Which I do agree with.

Where is this heat map everyone keeps talking about?
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Post Post #971 (isolation #75) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:51 pm

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I have to run for a few hours. The way this game keeps going, I more than half expect the game to have a flurry of activity that results in it being over when I get back.

I did want to note that I am not, as Chart claimed, "pocketed by Rainbow's negativity." Why would that result in pocketing anyway? And it's not like there's that much of it. Just a couple posts. What I was pocketed by was her day 0, and even though nothing since then has inspired me, I'm having a hard time letting it go. Particularly in favor of Rose who is just kind of whatever to me for the most part.
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Post Post #974 (isolation #76) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:52 pm

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In post 970, The Rainbow Knight wrote:Daffodil showing up 7 min after i call him out for being mia feels like scum beetlejuicing.

I think maybe Chart was just right on the way this plays out?
I showed up because I got a day four PM. I think my recent posting demonstrates that I am only now catching up.
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Post Post #976 (isolation #77) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:53 pm

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In post 972, The Rainbow Knight wrote:Now he seems to be pretending that he doesn't understand why Chartreuse is scumreading me and it feels like maybe scum trying their best to look away from whats right in the room
How do you distinguish this from actually not knowing.

Oh well. It seems like you're about to leave, and that's an L if so. I can only hope it's posturing.
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Post Post #978 (isolation #78) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:54 pm

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In post 975, Knight Indigo wrote:Crimson, I don’t understand why your read on Lavender suddenly changed. I also don’t understand why she had Rose as lockscum when she hasn’t done a damn thing scummy. And she wanted her dead before Beige, which she had as a nullread.

I still don’t think you’re more likely to be the T - T pair over both me/Rose, Daffodil/Rainbow?

I’m not rushing this day until I figure this out.
I'm starting to feel like I must have missed a page or two in my catchup because I don't remember any of this.
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Post Post #979 (isolation #79) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:54 pm

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Well, I have to leave now, so... guess I'll see what wreckage awaits later.
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Post Post #985 (isolation #80) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:12 pm

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In post 980, The Rainbow Knight wrote:
In post 976, Knight Daffodil wrote:
In post 972, The Rainbow Knight wrote:Now he seems to be pretending that he doesn't understand why Chartreuse is scumreading me and it feels like maybe scum trying their best to look away from whats right in the room
How do you distinguish this from actually not knowing.

Oh well. It seems like you're about to leave, and that's an L if so. I can only hope it's posturing.
?

why are you even worried about me leaving if you scumread me?
Snagged a back row seat, might be able to slack off here and there.

I'm worried about you leaving because you're making "I'm about to leave" noises. And obviously, if you are scum, you won't leave and might be hesitant to give off the impression you are going to. I'm not sure that I am in fact particularly scumreading you, but everyone else seems to be, which is why I wanted them to explain.
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Post Post #989 (isolation #81) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:18 pm

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I feel like it's painfully obvious everywhere from page 1 to this very moment that Rainbow and I are not S/S.
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Post Post #990 (isolation #82) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:20 pm

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In post 988, Knight Crimson wrote:Lav's actions in my PT
Elaborate?
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Post Post #991 (isolation #83) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:33 pm

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Eh, it sure looks like I'm about to get left from the PT. If it's a head fake, it's pretty convincing.

I hope I can feel like the whole game wasn't my fault. Things just kept moving before I was ready. Every day so far has ended well before I wanted it to.
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Post Post #992 (isolation #84) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:36 pm

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Just so I can say I did something right, VOTE: Lavender.
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Post Post #994 (isolation #85) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:38 pm

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I gotta admit, I'd expect scum to do that in the thread.
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Post Post #1000 (isolation #86) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:42 pm

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In post 996, Knight Crimson wrote:
In post 994, Knight Daffodil wrote:I gotta admit, I'd expect scum to do that in the thread.
Scum that's winning or scum that's losing?
Either, if the goal was ATE.

I guess it probably was just coming from real feelings. Maybe frustration that their poor nightkill options essentially meant they were going to lose because they (Rainbow and Lav, in this case)'d done too well, I suppose.
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Post Post #1002 (isolation #87) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:43 pm

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That does seem strange.
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Post Post #1003 (isolation #88) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:44 pm

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UNVOTE:

Game's hard.
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Post Post #1006 (isolation #89) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:48 pm

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From my POV, it seems like Lavender can't possibly be town unless Rose/Indigo are S/S (they're not) or we're wrong about you (we're not).
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Post Post #1010 (isolation #90) » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:52 pm

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Not certain, I guess, I just have trouble seeing why she does this song and dance as scum here. It seems like all it does is make me want to leave.

Pedit: How do we be sure of that?
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Post Post #1022 (isolation #91) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:55 am

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I reread Rose yesterday and was kind of underwhelmed!

I think it might actually make sense to leave your partner out if you're scum Rose in that situation for towncred.
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Post Post #1024 (isolation #92) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:04 am

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Rainbow is an absolute ATE master if she's scum here. I bow down to her hypothetical superiority in the art.

I can't decide whether to vote Rose or Lavender. I guess it sort of doesn't matter, since it's both of them if it's not Rainbow. Lavender makes more sense with Rainbow of the two, but I think if Crimson weren't here I would lose my mind so I don't know if I'm ready to contemplate that.

It's all probably a moot point as I expect to die at any moment.
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Post Post #1025 (isolation #93) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:05 am

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VOTE: Rose, I guess.
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Post Post #1026 (isolation #94) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:07 am

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It's so hard to wrap my head around the nightkill from this angle, but what else am I to do. I can't play the whole rest of the game (well, I could if it's only a few minutes) worrying about that or I might as well just leave.
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Post Post #1028 (isolation #95) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:12 am

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Usually when games are this hard it means I'm having fun, but this one is honestly just plain stressful. No fault of anyone's.
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Post Post #1030 (isolation #96) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:13 am

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Oh well in that case pack it up we solved it :P
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Post Post #1032 (isolation #97) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:14 am

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Sure. UNVOTE:

I would rather resolve it with votes than leaving, though. I want to make scum cast votes for me to read them on.
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Post Post #1035 (isolation #98) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:36 am

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It's fine I guess. I wish we'd just done the whole game via votes to force players to commit to reads, but the ship has sailed I suppose.
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Post Post #1060 (isolation #99) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:40 am

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This page is painting a compelling picture for me leaving but I'm so afraid of blowing it.
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Post Post #1062 (isolation #100) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:47 am

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In post 1057, Knight Crimson wrote:
In post 710, The Rainbow Knight wrote:the seafoam kill really is throwing me for a loop because Daffodil said he suspected seafoam and now seafoam is dead so I don't know if he would kill his own suspect just to make me townread him.

But he's also telling me he feels uneasy about me which implies he will be leaving me at some point and I'm not sure if it's performative or real.
In post 713, The Rainbow Knight wrote:I don't really understand his motivation if its to float a suspect, get me to sort of agree and then nightkill the suspect just to put my head on a spinner. I am moderately worried at this point.
Can confirm that Rainbow simply thought of Seafoam as "Daff's suspect".

If Daff is scum they also might not have known how many people shared that read, although I'd be a little more surprised at that.

As for Rose....

Eh Rose doesn't really give a read on Seafoam aside from the early game when they said "ok-ish". They were considering pairing with Seafoam or Indigo primarily so they definite had them as higher town than Magenta.
Doesnt this whole interaction make Lav/Rainbow seem pretty inplausible?
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Post Post #1063 (isolation #101) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:47 am

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I may have quoted the wrong post. I mean the fiasco with the neighborhood and rainbow missing the reads. What was the point of that?
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Post Post #1065 (isolation #102) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:50 am

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Rainbow did seem kind of surprised that I suspected seafoam.
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Post Post #1067 (isolation #103) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:55 am

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Crimson, should I go? All you really need to do is hammer home for me that it isnt Lav/Rose.
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Post Post #1071 (isolation #104) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:05 am

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To be fair, everyone was townreading rose.
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #105) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:31 am

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In post 1078, Knight Indigo wrote:And that would also mean my 2:1 ratio theory was also correct.
It has a 75% chance of happening naturally. Still no more likely than any other configuration.
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Post Post #1080 (isolation #106) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:32 am

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At least, I think that's math. Dont quote me.
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Post Post #1091 (isolation #107) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:08 pm

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So that's a yes? Like, imminently?
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Post Post #1094 (isolation #108) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:16 pm

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I'm convinced enough, I just wanted to make sure you were done.
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Post Post #1095 (isolation #109) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:16 pm

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Somebody hold me.
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Post Post #1097 (isolation #110) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:22 pm

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"YOLO" -- Knight Azure

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