The Deck of Astral Roles II: Expanded Universe [Game Over]

[MegAzumarill]

Specter doesn't win alone though right? Their win doesn't end the game they are just annoying with roleblocks?

[MegAzumarill]

But like should we worry about that?

If they win and leave and we go on without them isn't that universally beneficial?

[MegAzumarill]

@temporallich does a specter win end the game?

[MegAzumarill]

VOTE: YDRASSE

[MegAzumarill]

I don't think VT in general is boring, just in the context of one of these games

They are saying that of 2 town cards (Say- Town Doctor and VT) they discard VT instead of doctor because then scum doesn't know there is less claimspace for doctor.

[MegAzumarill]

-me just realizes someone died to sunshine club/dayvig

[MegAzumarill]

Also the reason i figure pooky had 2 scum cards is that i believe he would have chosen Werewolf if he didnt

Screw picking werewolf,
All my friends hate werewolves

[MegAzumarill]

Wouldn't you need at least 2 vanilla cards to be VT?
Unless I suppose you discard a scum negative utility and had a vanilla

I'd pick the negative utility over vanilla personally

[MegAzumarill]

I am voting zzzzzz

[MegAzumarill]

Where is my "I voted" sticker?

[MegAzumarill]

Loftwing is being replaced. Card selection deadline is frozen at 2 days, 9 hours, 35 minutes until both replacements are found.

I dont understand the sunshine club wording

It says they have to use their factional powers during the day but do they have a kill?

They have a factional day-kill

Also their personal abilities (i.e. cop) take place during the day and are used during the day.

[MegAzumarill]

Kay
Maybe they have a rolecop which they used on galron first?
Otherwise it feels really hasty and random

Probably not

A watcher is completely useless against sunshine club as it only sees night actions

[MegAzumarill]

Although therefore anyone seen by a watcher is guarenteed to not be sunshine club.


So maybe you were right after all.

[MegAzumarill]

selling my night ability to the best bidder it’s really funny

:0

[MegAzumarill]

So dark creatures apparently have a roleblock + delayed kill
Is there another faction that daykills like the sunshine club?

I think there's a starkin that can daykill with any killing action


Other than that probably just a silent dayvig.

[MegAzumarill]

selling my night ability to the best bidder it’s really funny

Also explain please

[MegAzumarill]

Post 21 :

You may preform the factional kill during the day. If the kill is successful, the player will not die until the day ends.
If you preform the factional kill, the factional kill cannot be preformed during the night.



There's another one of this as well (i think ~ 550 or so)

[MegAzumarill]

Double groupscum are traitors

[MegAzumarill]

523(+killing role), 544 are possible


Or the sunshine club has a vigilante on their team so 2 daykills.

[MegAzumarill]

hej

havinfg a fucking

abyssmal

day right now but this is definitely a bright spot, hello lovely people

Ahh this was a signal to the dark creatures then.

We do know that dark creatures didn't kill them though.

Just something I thought would be good to point out.

[MegAzumarill]

The signal does mean that there is at least 1 dark creature in the game though

Unsure about most things with werewolves though

[MegAzumarill]

@Meg I mean they might if they didn't catch that "signal". Which is very possible.

Honestly, don't think Almost 50 would have killed them just after a pretty weak push on them.

The only way for a silent daykill to come from not sunshine club is by starkin or role card 544- which would only be a day poison because dark creatures don't have a traditional kill. (wouldn't kill today)


Unless some seriously wacky stuff is happening with a Grand Idea role it can't be dark creatures to my knowledge

[MegAzumarill]

She does not sacrifice herself, she sacrifices use of her power (getting a random 1shot of someone living)
So basically she can protect a scumbuddy

I mean your point seems like it could also just come down to personal taste.

I think I'd prefer what she claims to her discard as any alignment.

[MegAzumarill]

She does not sacrifice herself, she sacrifices use of her power (getting a random 1shot of someone living)
So basically she can protect a scumbuddy

I mean your point seems like it could also just come down to personal taste.

I think I'd prefer what she claims to her discard as any alignment.

Yes, I'm discussing personal taste

I don't think Titus wants to rand powers or bp someone as town in this game, she would consider the minus vote better
But as groupscum the bp grant is good

Disagree wholeheartedly, why would learning a role that exists of alive players each night be bad? Especially when you can use the ability you find and you can instead use a doctor ability if its not strong?

It seems way better than minus voter

[MegAzumarill]

VOTE: lendunistus

[MegAzumarill]

You were the first to point that signal. Sure, technically you might have picked it after killing MT but I think you'd have ISOed them before using that ability. And I see no reason you'd pick someone who could win with you over a town member.

This logic doesn't work because the dark creatures couldn't have been the faction to do the ability anyway. (at least without some serious shenanigans)

Guillotina could have easily picked up on the signal because they are a dark creature and saw it initially.

[MegAzumarill]

Half of it is RVS (this game hasn't really gone anywhere yet)
Half is they discarded a role I submitted (i mean who wouldn't want to be a monk )

I was asked my reads and I think wisdom is town. I don't have scumreads yet.

[MegAzumarill]

I mean pooky's claim kind of sorts itself out so i doubt pooky is scum but we will figure out soon enough.

[MegAzumarill]

smh smh OMGUS smh

Dayvig: MegAzumarill

Bruh

[MegAzumarill]

If the dayvig is real lendunistus is the lim here

Didnt even try to engage with ny slot

[MegAzumarill]

@TemporalLich take me away to the shadow realm if the shot is real


But town is weak enough here as is a townie wouldnt shoot without trying to interact with a slot first

[MegAzumarill]

Cant they just sleep paralysis someone just before theyre lim'd then
Seems a waste to use it early

Hm, that's a serious balance problem then... to the point we need to actively play around this problem.

Why? Does a Specter win preclude a town win?

Apparently it is supposed to but TL didnt clarify when I asked

[MegAzumarill]

Im gonna assume the worst until I'm pleasantly surprised or dead

[MegAzumarill]

The Deck of Astral Roles II: Expanded Universe

Modded by TemporalLich, backup modded by Cook

Playerlist:

1. Guillotina
2. MegAzumarill
3. Titus
   Loftwing
4. Selynee
5. Flea The Magician
6. Almost50
   NotAJumbleOfNumbers
7. Not Known 15
8. Toogeloo
9. PookyTheMagicalBear
10. House
    KidAmn
11. bloodhail
12. lendunistus
13. Galron
14. Morning Tweet
15. Wisdom
16. Spangled
17. Ydrasse

Spoiler: Alive

• Guillotina
• MegAzumarill
• Titus
• Selynee
• Flea The Magician
• Almost50
• Not Known 15
• Toogeloo
• PookyTheMagicalBear
• House
• bloodhail
• lendunistus
• Wisdom
• Ydrasse

Spoiler: Dead

Spangled,

Specter Tracker

,

died

during pick selection
Galron,

Town 2-Shot Watcher

,

died

Day 1
Morning Tweet,

Abyss

claw

Crooked Mailman

,

died

Day 1

I gotta fluff while I still can

[MegAzumarill]

@guillotina at that time I was still wondering if I would be dead come next TL post
Obv not anymore but i was trying to give some final thoughts at least


I think the fake dayvig was a reaction test probably coming more from town

[MegAzumarill]

@guillotina at that time I was still wondering if I would be dead come next TL post
Obv not anymore but i was trying to give some final thoughts at least


I think the fake dayvig was a reaction test probably coming more from town

That is naive again. RTs can come from either alignment. He RTed and then bailed out that is the part I hated.

I mean you're not wrong

But why would scum willingly draw attention to themself like that?

[MegAzumarill]

The difference between post count and activity.

They are trying to move the game when they post.

[MegAzumarill]

I know mech stuff because I enjoy looking into it.

Its not AI

[MegAzumarill]

I enjoy looking into mech aspects of rolelists personally.
Since I do it out of enjoyment it isnt AI either way.

[MegAzumarill]

At least 2/3 of the trio is town

[MegAzumarill]

Question: why would nk15 choose scum with that role?

I approve of its usage today tbh

[MegAzumarill]

Also stop voting the player that can IC themselves tomorrow smh.

[MegAzumarill]

Nk15 can you link the role here?

[MegAzumarill]

Then why did NK15 make a posts whose sole purpose seems to be for a lie detector ability?

[MegAzumarill]

Ye I see that now

[MegAzumarill]

I feel obligated to believe he used the ability unless someone ccs.
Why wouldn't they since its one shot?

[MegAzumarill]

If you cant lie detect yourself can't you just ask someone to say something in quotes to lie detect it?
It doesnt feel much more powerful able to self target

[MegAzumarill]

@TemporalLich can role #223 target their own posts?

Seems like a simple solution for me

[MegAzumarill]

I'm asking for clarification on a specific role's mechanics.
It doesn't make NK the lie detector if true, and it doesn't give any alignment info

[MegAzumarill]

As the role reads in the Doar it targets posts and therefore can target someone's own post.

[MegAzumarill]

Why is house wagon?

[MegAzumarill]

They thought it was like an enchantress I assume

[MegAzumarill]

Btw you prolly shouldnt kidnap people if you are town.

Town doesn't get benefit from less info.

[MegAzumarill]

House has been hammered I think

[MegAzumarill]

We have some sort of strongman killer looks like

[MegAzumarill]

Critter why are you kidnapping Wisdom?

[MegAzumarill]

Also toog did you get a guilty?

[MegAzumarill]

None is the only valid option

We gain nothing as town by silencing a voice

[MegAzumarill]

Ok but role =/= alignment, also now wisdom cant defend themself so i say we wait a day

[MegAzumarill]

A role cop would see a real role, not a fakeclaim.
How flea supposedly knew wisdom had a fakeclaim I don't know.

[MegAzumarill]

Im sorry I wanted someone to be able to defend themself?
I mean kidnapper objectively hurts town and I said to forgo it yesterday

[MegAzumarill]

VOTE: wisdom
Yeah the soft checks out though

[MegAzumarill]

Double IC go brrrrrr

[MegAzumarill]

Ok but kidnapping is still bad for town

Now we don't get amy spew.

[MegAzumarill]

Ok but please stop kidnapping people

Its illegal

[MegAzumarill]

It specifies that's an alignment ability

[MegAzumarill]

Also someone had an ability to put me at e-1 and I am not amused.

[MegAzumarill]

Ok but why don't you go on the person we know has a negative modifier.

[MegAzumarill]

@Mod is the dark creatures factional plunge in darkness considered a killing action?

[MegAzumarill]

I mean my role is confirmable and I know everyone else's. Not alignments though. Toog is a dc kill, titus is ww. Selynee is tk

[MegAzumarill]

Game 1 Mod choice True flip (discarding town alarmist)
Game 2 town disloyal vigi (sad) (discarding ww enforcer)

[MegAzumarill]

Toog was rbed n2 and was bp. Dc probably is what pierced pooky's bp.
The other two is role related.
I will be back in ~ an hour

[MegAzumarill]

I'm not a role cop. Just can logic it out.

[MegAzumarill]

You guys should know all roles but 1 (mine)

If you didn't before you can now

[MegAzumarill]

Guillo are you not pgo?

[MegAzumarill]

I mean I think you should go ahead and claim.

Nk15 is obvs lie detector.

If their one shot is removed the game is just won I think.

[MegAzumarill]

I mean everyone has given claims for roles except you and a50. (And me)
One of you is gladiator.
One of you is ???? (Pgo claim filled this slot)

[MegAzumarill]

Yeah we got 4 role cards for game c only

[MegAzumarill]

Would still like your role if not gladiator/pgo

[MegAzumarill]

Rest of card stuff i forgot (besides my actual role/alignment cards)
My private discard for C was werewolf number flip.
My alignment for A was a weakizer
My alignment for B was a Mod choice cop

[MegAzumarill]

Can you claim your results?

[MegAzumarill]

A50, I assume you claim town gladiator?

[MegAzumarill]

Hold of you to assume I townread either.

I only tr nk15 atm, so im looking at you/guillo/a50 as 2/3 scum

[MegAzumarill]

Bold*

[MegAzumarill]

I am actually vanilla monk, not monkizer.
But yeah me and NK are monks

[MegAzumarill]

A50 i think you overestimate your towniness here

[MegAzumarill]

Bruh we know A50 is gladiator already

[MegAzumarill]

I mean if we are both groupscum y'all just lose anyway

So don't worry about it <3

[MegAzumarill]

2 dark creatures is impossible(only 8 town would exist)

[MegAzumarill]

We know 1 dark creature 1 werewolf 1 non town killing faction exists
2 dark creatures means 8 town when 9 is confirmed

[MegAzumarill]

The 4 outing thou

I thought u were the town

[MegAzumarill]

Thanks*

[MegAzumarill]

I could be solo DC, but not with a living partner

[MegAzumarill]

U right im not DC

[MegAzumarill]

????

[MegAzumarill]

It is mechanically impossinle for >1 DC to be alive rn

[MegAzumarill]

How?

[MegAzumarill]

Ww and another killing faction are confirmed to exist.

You are saying there is 1 townie alive

[MegAzumarill]

Wisdom was elimmed

[MegAzumarill]

So you are saying me and No are DC together?

How do you explain the extra kills

[MegAzumarill]

Me and nk15

[MegAzumarill]

Nothing personal guillo, just think you are scum

[MegAzumarill]

Ok but you are claiming something literally impossible (without some wacky GrandIdea role being rolled

[MegAzumarill]

Yes, appears to pierce BP too

[MegAzumarill]

Its not

[MegAzumarill]

Why do you think there must be 3 DCs

[MegAzumarill]

Critter I need you to understand that I cannot have partners as DC.

Nothing couldve caused the @galron/lend/sely kills except a killing faction (one was at day so vigi doesnt work)

[MegAzumarill]

Critter claims Werewolf

[MegAzumarill]

Critter I need you to understand that I cannot have partners as DC.

Nothing couldve caused the @galron/lend/sely kills except a killing faction (one was at day so vigi doesnt work)

Nah you have a scum day action enabler like we did prolly

1 That role affects all actions
2 DC does not have an instantaneous kill

[MegAzumarill]

Aka Nk15 used ur daykill to kill galron

[MegAzumarill]

Critter i don't have anyone poisoned if you kill me you are outed scum on 2v1 (Went on Titus)

If you also kidnap then it ends scorched earth and we all lose.

I will roleblock/poison the TK (nk15)
If you no kill its kingmaker between us 2.
If you kill Nk15 same thing.
If you kill A50 its kingmaker but interesting.

If I am lying about my target tonight and try to kill you, you cant kill me anyway.

You cant kill me tonight without losing the game.
Kill 150 for wacky kingmaker or idle for boring kingmaker.

It is up to you.

If I have a partner we always rb you and when regardless what you do, so play like I'm solo.
VOTE: Guillo

[MegAzumarill]

GL tonight but you lose if you kill me and vice versa

[MegAzumarill]

Vote fast night so we get to the good stuff faster

[MegAzumarill]

Well that was fun.
GG everyone

[MegAzumarill]

Thanks for modding, no redactions for monk PT (at least by me)

[MegAzumarill]

Oh btw i did switch my claimed role and alignment cards for game B.

Anti-Town Winner /(Mod chooses) Cop > Town Disloyal Vigi obviously

[MegAzumarill]

Oh btw i did switch my claimed role and alignment cards for game B.

Anti-Town Winner /(Mod chooses) Cop > Town Disloyal Vigi obviously

I don't care what you did with your cards. You fake-claiming Scum and playing along with Critter was AMAZING PLAY. I almost(50) believed it.

It was entirely fallback in case you were scum.

[MegAzumarill]

They weren't the same team.
They were opposite evil factions

[MegAzumarill]

I thought you were talking about critter/wisdom my bad

[MegAzumarill]

The self lie detect is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen in a bastard game lol.

Anyway, how did Meg know all those actions if they were just a Monk?

If you are talking about the kills my partner killed Selynee, and toog was claiming roleblocked the night before they died, which would happen if it was a DC kill (it also lines up with the kill happening right after Toog claimed to have a guilty)

POE meant ww kill was last.

[MegAzumarill]

Also, I don't think this site is for me. I've been trying to adapt but the length of these games put psychological pressure on scum factions as town by default come in with a lot of time to reconsider their reads, the only way I can see myself winning as scum for the first time is by slanking, by giving town as less info as possible and that is something my hyperactive ass cannot do.

Plus, when I joined this site my vision was to host games here (two-week long day phases = Hosting Paradise) and play Blitz games here or at other sites, but I couldn't even fill a 13 player one and I'm not interested in running normal open set ups. So, I've concluded that this site is not a fit for my playstyle and hosting is also out of the picture plus I got a feeling not many people enjoy playing with me anyway so, yah, this is my last game here! But I leave you a legacy of 147 unique roles and factions in the DoAR to play with.

Cheers

Good luck on all of your endeavors