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Dwlee99 · Post Post #105 (isolation #1) » Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:38 am

VOTE: cyrus

Dwlee99 · Post Post #154 (isolation #2) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:20 am

I like this confidence from DotW. I think we both picked up on something similar, although me on an arguably subconscious level

Dwlee99 · Post Post #164 (isolation #3) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:15 am

Cyrus do you think dotw and I are scum together

Dwlee99 · Post Post #192 (isolation #4) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:29 am

I don't think NM was actually claiming jester. This conversation feels pointless

Dwlee99 · Post Post #194 (isolation #5) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:32 am

Oh right lol

Dwlee99 · Post Post #203 (isolation #6) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:12 am

Killing jester gives more night actions than delaying it

Dwlee99 · Post Post #255 (isolation #7) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:39 pm

Bingle, is there a mech break? Y/N?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #261 (isolation #8) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:24 pm

I also fudged my alignment

Dwlee99 · Post Post #265 (isolation #9) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:54 pm

I think it was 15 and I rolled it down to 12

Dwlee99 · Post Post #278 (isolation #10) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:24 am

Can we stop talking mech please

There is no alignment info you're gonna get from that unless scum decides to try to push something they don't actually believe would be optimal for town

Dwlee99 · Post Post #288 (isolation #11) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:25 am

In post 286, Bingle wrote:ssbm_Kyouko
Dragon of the West
Save The Dragons

Dwlee99

Dunnstral
StrangeMatter
Enchant
RegRider
Mama Ru

cyrus62
Loftwing
Quiet Owl

This is roughly where I’m at.

What am I doing at the top here

Dwlee99 · Post Post #293 (isolation #12) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:30 am

In post 292, Bingle wrote:
In post 288, Dwlee99 wrote:What am I doing at the top here
I think you actively pushing against the thread getting derailed by irrelevant mechspeak makes you more likely town than the people who have done functionally nothing.

Nice

Dwlee99 · Post Post #295 (isolation #13) » Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:32 am

VOTE: Mama ru
ISO even more useless than mine

Dwlee99 · Post Post #365 (isolation #14) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:13 am

Me have school
Me busy
Mama Ru scum

Dwlee99 · Post Post #368 (isolation #15) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:17 am

Yo fuck open draft

Two guilties in a three scum game

Dwlee99 · Post Post #369 (isolation #16) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:18 am

I'm in uni, I don't have class rn lol

Dwlee99 · Post Post #371 (isolation #17) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:06 am

What kinda townslip is that huh

Dwlee99 · Post Post #372 (isolation #18) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:06 am

VOTE: Regrider
Why would "waste your fudge roll" even be a reason to scumread someone

Dwlee99 · Post Post #377 (isolation #19) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:29 am

He said something that made no sense now I vote

Dwlee99 · Post Post #387 (isolation #20) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:36 am

Okay now you seem caught so I'm staying with you

Dwlee99 · Post Post #409 (isolation #21) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:19 am

Why are you deflecting the blame instead of playing the game

Dwlee99 · Post Post #418 (isolation #22) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:26 am

In post 411, Mama Ru wrote:
In post 409, Dwlee99 wrote:Why are you deflecting the blame instead of playing the game
I just did. Please hit the werk room. There are some sequins that are still unglued.

Werk

Dwlee99 · Post Post #428 (isolation #23) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:53 am

This game isn't as interesting as I'd like

Dwlee99 · Post Post #438 (isolation #24) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:36 am

Given how little people want to play scum these days I'd be unsurprised if people fudged to town like I did

Dwlee99 · Post Post #456 (isolation #25) » Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:44 pm

It's still whoever my vote is on

Dwlee99 · Post Post #459 (isolation #26) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:12 am

Regrider

Dwlee99 · Post Post #462 (isolation #27) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:12 am

In post 460, Bingle wrote:
In post 456, Dwlee99 wrote:It's still whoever my vote is on
Somehow you’re not one of the people I’m calling out for inactivity here. And isn’t that saying something.

:^)

Dwlee99 · Post Post #465 (isolation #28) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:02 am

Dwlee99 · Post Post #467 (isolation #29) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:07 am

Regrider EVIL

Dwlee99 · Post Post #470 (isolation #30) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:19 am

What is there to elaborate on

Dwlee99 · Post Post #472 (isolation #31) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:21 am

In post 372, Dwlee99 wrote:VOTE: Regrider
Why would "waste your fudge roll" even be a reason to scumread someone

In post 377, Dwlee99 wrote:He said something that made no sense now I vote

In post 387, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay now you seem caught so I'm staying with you

Dwlee99 · Post Post #474 (isolation #32) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:46 am

In post 381, RegRider wrote:
In post 377, Dwlee99 wrote:He said something that made no sense now I vote
I'm confused with your grievance.

In post 383, RegRider wrote:Like, please tell me what I said doesn't make sense, I'm serious. Enchant just straight up said he walked into the game wanting to be scum.

Caught

Dwlee99 · Post Post #481 (isolation #33) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:13 am

In post 475, Loftwing wrote:
In post 474, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 381, RegRider wrote:
In post 377, Dwlee99 wrote:He said something that made no sense now I vote
I'm confused with your grievance.

In post 383, RegRider wrote:Like, please tell me what I said doesn't make sense, I'm serious. Enchant just straight up said he walked into the game wanting to be scum.
Caught
I don't see it. Can you explain how this is caught scum?

His reaction indicates to me he thinks he doesn't deserve to be caught yet did anyway

Dwlee99 · Post Post #492 (isolation #34) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:03 pm

It's the tone my guy

Also we have nothing else to go off of rn

Dwlee99 · Post Post #494 (isolation #35) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:23 pm

We will see when someone hammers

Dwlee99 · Post Post #503 (isolation #36) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:54 pm

I hide nothing except for the things I hide

Dwlee99 · Post Post #506 (isolation #37) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:02 pm

Playerlist affects this

Also meta bad

Dwlee99 · Post Post #507 (isolation #38) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:03 pm

I was also less active in the neighborhood so

Dwlee99 · Post Post #509 (isolation #39) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:23 pm

I'm not having fun no

Dwlee99 · Post Post #511 (isolation #40) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:28 pm

Yeah that get rekt

Dwlee99 · Post Post #514 (isolation #41) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:36 pm

Dwlee99 · Post Post #541 (isolation #42) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:17 am

In post 515, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 492, Dwlee99 wrote:It's the tone my guy

Also we have nothing else to go off of rn
This feels like an excuse rather than a reason tbh
What about VOTE: Dwlee
Getting big vibes here

How is "it's the tone" an excuse

Reg's posts were icky in response to my push. There's hardly any content from most people. It's the best reason I have right now. You should know better than this BS Kyo

Dwlee99 · Post Post #542 (isolation #43) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:24 am

I'm also a tiny bit surprised to see Dragon defending me here

Dwlee99 · Post Post #551 (isolation #44) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:46 am

Telling you to vote Regrider

is

game driving

Dwlee99 · Post Post #552 (isolation #45) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:46 am

Can I still hammer you

Dwlee99 · Post Post #553 (isolation #46) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:47 am

I can't, disappointing

Dwlee99 · Post Post #554 (isolation #47) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:48 am

(I also don't always game drive as town but)

Dwlee99 · Post Post #560 (isolation #48) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:21 am

In post 555, Loftwing wrote:
In post 551, Dwlee99 wrote:Telling you to vote Regrider
is
game driving

In post 554, Dwlee99 wrote:(I also don't always game drive as town but)
This seems like trying to have your cake and eat it too. Are you game driving as town, or are you not game driving as town?

I do both. I don't have a static meta as either alignment. It completely depends on playerlist, my role, the vibes in the game, what has happened, etc

Dwlee99 · Post Post #561 (isolation #49) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:21 am

And I don't get why you can't tell that distinction

Dwlee99 · Post Post #562 (isolation #50) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:22 am

As in, between me saying I'm doing light game driving here but that I also don't always do that

Dwlee99 · Post Post #564 (isolation #51) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:28 am

Kyo are you ignoring me now

Dwlee99 · Post Post #567 (isolation #52) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:35 am

I have more posts than 9/12 of the other players. How tf am I absent here

Dwlee99 · Post Post #568 (isolation #53) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:37 am

But yea my playstyle changes on a lot of things and sometimes even just my mood when I first post that sets the tone for the rest of the game. You don't know me, I have tons of games with different posting and activity styles and levels of engagement.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #569 (isolation #54) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:38 am

Like here game is totally dead, I want a Regrider flip, we go into night and then come back tomorrow. That's what's going to help us here the most

Dwlee99 · Post Post #572 (isolation #55) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:45 am

What arguments? All I've seen is boring mech discussion and Cyrus being Cyrus. Closest thing otherwise to an argument is explaining why a low poster who reacted badly to a simple push is likely to be scum and you thinking I'm scum for not having an essay level read on someone with 13 posts

Dwlee99 · Post Post #574 (isolation #56) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:47 am

Can't you still E-1 this

Dwlee99 · Post Post #575 (isolation #57) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:48 am

Nvm bingle unvoted

Dwlee99 · Post Post #578 (isolation #58) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:53 am

And funny enough, you gave me the same crap last time we played

In post 701, Loftwing wrote:.

Secondly, VOTE: Dwlee
I'm sure you're a perfectly healthy and mentally stable player, so why are you seemingly unwilling to give a reasonable response to Wake, rather than playing this weird "I'm not touching you" style game?

That I'm not being reasonable enough or giving enough reasons. And I was town and we ended up hard stomping scum in that game with my help.

So maybe this method of reading me based on me not having super deep reasons to scumread someone (with 13 posts btw) isn't effective?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #580 (isolation #59) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:57 am

Regrider please instead

Dwlee99 · Post Post #581 (isolation #60) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:57 am

Anyway Kyo and ru look scummy af for hopping on me there

Dwlee99 · Post Post #584 (isolation #61) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:03 am

Thanks Bingle you the best

Dwlee99 · Post Post #590 (isolation #62) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:24 am

Loftwing I've explained the reasons. Idk what more you expect from me on a player with that little content

Dwlee99 · Post Post #591 (isolation #63) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:26 am

Also you're scumreading me for the exact same reason you scumread me last time and you just completely ignored that

Dwlee99 · Post Post #592 (isolation #64) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:26 am

I'll hammer loftwing if bingle + Cyrus E-1 him

Dwlee99 · Post Post #593 (isolation #65) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:31 am

Spoiler:

In post 667, Wake1 wrote:
In post 666, Dwlee99 wrote:644 isn't a question my guy
On the contrary, it doesn't have to be.

It's an observation: something pointed out.

I would appreciate your feedback.

In post 668, Wake1 wrote:Dwlee, why are you being so cagey?

Almost all your posts are one-liners and you're barely playing the game.

Where are you
in this game right now?

In post 669, Wake1 wrote:VOTE: Dwlee99

In post 671, Dwlee99 wrote:Wake if you clicked the ISO button you would have seen that I've given a poe. If you wanna ask about that, go for it, but I'm not answering to give "insight on how it's going over there" when I already gave a poe I'm working from

In post 679, Wake1 wrote:
In post 671, Dwlee99 wrote:Wake if you clicked the ISO button you would have seen that I've given a poe. If you wanna ask about that, go for it, but I'm not answering to give "insight on how it's going over there" when I already gave a poe I'm working from
Dude, all you did was list right players and then post "poe."

In post 680, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay, do you have a problem with a certain player on/off my list? What do you want to know?

In post 682, Wake1 wrote:I want to know why you're being so cagey, ignoring my questions and observations, and making it feel like you're sparing no excuse to not engage with anyone.

I feel like you're holding back and to be frank with you it's a red flag to me.

In post 684, Dwlee99 wrote:What questions haven't I answered? I don't think there are any

In post 685, Dwlee99 wrote:Oh, and before you say it: idc is an answer to a question

In post 686, Wake1 wrote:Your posts are only bare-bone to me. WHERE is your reasons for having them there? WHY do you keep just posting real brief sentences? I want to know why YOU are keeping it so brief and cagey. I feel like you're holding back, and it's tripping my gut.

In post 691, Dwlee99 wrote:To your other stuff: Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick

In post 693, Wake1 wrote:
In post 685, Dwlee99 wrote:Oh, and before you say it: idc is an answer to a question
Bullshit.

You can't just say "idc" whenever people are asking you questions, bucko.

In post 695, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 693, Wake1 wrote:
In post 685, Dwlee99 wrote:Oh, and before you say it: idc is an answer to a question
Bullshit.

You can't just say "idc" whenever people are asking you questions, bucko.
This post is bait

In post 698, Dwlee99 wrote:Wake I've given you very clear terms for how you can learn more about my reads. I'm pretty much a permamobile poster so I'm not going to go through every thought I've had that game because 1. I'm lazy 2. That's boring and 3. It's unhelpful. I do respond to almost everything at me and sometimes to things that just have my name in there.

In post 701, Loftwing wrote: Secondly, VOTE: Dwlee
I'm sure you're a perfectly healthy and mentally stable player, so why are you seemingly unwilling to give a reasonable response to Wake, rather than playing this weird "I'm not touching you" style game?

Wake is asking that you interact with him while you're here and ready to give responses, but instead of doing that, you instead say something like "What? No! I did do stuffs, like this poe! You have a problem with it?" And then when questioned about why the players who are there are, well, there, you say "You got a problem with any specific player m8?" which is irrelevant to what he was asking you.

Read this sequence and tell me it's not the exact same thing again

Dwlee99 · Post Post #596 (isolation #66) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:34 am

Your reasoning here is that I am not giving enough reasons for stuff and you want me to dump my entire brain

That's the same exact thing wake was saying and that you latched onto

Dwlee99 · Post Post #597 (isolation #67) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:35 am

Reasonable response. To his questions going "Give me reasons for all of your reads!!" to which I said "ask me about a specific one." And now you're pushing me because you had to ask for me to explain my reads. Literally the same

Dwlee99 · Post Post #598 (isolation #68) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:37 am

That game:

Wake: dwlee explain your reads
Me: which one
Wake: the reads
Me: no

Loftwing: scum detected!

This game:
Loftwing: why won't you explain your read on Regrider
Me: here's my reasoning
Loftwing: need more reasoning
Me: no

Loftwing: scum caught!!

Dude if you're town your sorting method is awful

Dwlee99 · Post Post #600 (isolation #69) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:44 am

Okay so refusing to answer questions

About my reads

And here

You're scumreading me for refusing to answer questions too

About my reads

It just happens that here your argument is that I'm refusing to answer enough because the iso has 13 posts

Dwlee99 · Post Post #601 (isolation #70) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:44 am

Instead of at all

That's the difference

Dwlee99 · Post Post #602 (isolation #71) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:46 am

Anyway bye I need to eat and answer stuff for a pre-interview thing

Dwlee99 · Post Post #624 (isolation #72) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:53 pm

In post 541, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 515, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 492, Dwlee99 wrote:It's the tone my guy

Also we have nothing else to go off of rn
This feels like an excuse rather than a reason tbh
What about VOTE: Dwlee
Getting big vibes here
How is "it's the tone" an excuse

Reg's posts were icky in response to my push. There's hardly any content from most people. It's the best reason I have right now. You should know better than this BS Kyo

Dwlee99 · Post Post #647 (isolation #73) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:39 am

Not sure why Loftwing isn't voting his counterwagon unless reg is his partner

Dwlee99 · Post Post #650 (isolation #74) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:39 am

In post 648, Loftwing wrote:Yeah, imagine if I voted RegRider, like ever. And like, they were put on E-1. That would look crazy bad. For you, at least.

Anyway, VOTE: RegRider

What?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #660 (isolation #75) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:42 am

No I don't read

I am incapable of doing so

Dwlee99 · Post Post #708 (isolation #76) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:30 pm

In post 698, Loftwing wrote:VOTE: Dwlee

Or I am town and genuinely do scumread Dwlee

scum claim LOL

VOTE: loftwing

anyway will probably vote enchant when the nature of the guilty comes but if someone is a vig shoot loftwing, thanks

Dwlee99 · Post Post #709 (isolation #77) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:32 pm

I am either extremely amazing at this game by catching reg or I got hella lucky. I don't really care which. I got scum killed day one so you're gonna need more than "I scumread dwlee" to get me out of the game lmao

Dwlee99 · Post Post #768 (isolation #78) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:19 am

VOTE: enchant

Dwlee99 · Post Post #778 (isolation #79) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:12 am

I didn't target anyone last night so I wasn't reflexively asceticized

Dwlee99 · Post Post #786 (isolation #80) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:10 am

Did enchant claim who he killed

Dwlee99 · Post Post #807 (isolation #81) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:53 am

In post 797, cyrus62 wrote:@dw can I get a list of who you think is the scummy? @owl can I get one from you too . Save the dragons could I get a list from you as well.

Enchant and loftwing

Dwlee99 · Post Post #816 (isolation #82) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:39 am

In post 815, Quiet Owl wrote:Dwlee - Probably town, but I want to know Loft's flip before I make a decision here.

I hate it here

Unless you think I'm a fourth scum faction (mafia + sk + cult + ???) why did I pull that on reg. You think I just randomly hard bussed my partner, and then while someone (loft) was at E-1 and I had multiple chances to hammer while he hard chainsawed for reg I just decided to insist we kill reg instead. And that I did all of this when there was pressure AGAINST limming reg. Like I jumped onto and pushed reg in reaction to someone getting off for a certain post, and I read it and I thought "wait a second, that post is actually scummy, not townie at all" and pushed there. And I did this all in multiball where I could eat a kill for hard bussing like that.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #819 (isolation #83) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:02 pm

If I was scum I'd either be partnered with reg or not partnered with reg. So you either think there are 4 scum factions in this game, or I'm partnered with reg, or I'm town. I think the first idea isn't super likely, and the second is completely ridiculous.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #837 (isolation #84) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:46 am

Once he does let's kill enchant

Dwlee99 · Post Post #839 (isolation #85) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:55 am

You're an SK?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #841 (isolation #86) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 3:33 am

Yes it does

Dwlee99 · Post Post #862 (isolation #87) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:06 am

Or we could kill claimed scum instead of doing some shenanigans

Dwlee99 · Post Post #876 (isolation #88) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:18 am

I mean maybe I'll want to act tonight

Dwlee99 · Post Post #885 (isolation #89) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:38 am

In post 883, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 836, Bingle wrote:Dragon o/t West is the only one who hasn’t checked in.
Hello, we should kill enchant

yes

Dwlee99 · Post Post #918 (isolation #90) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:47 pm

Enchant is just scum tho

Dwlee99 · Post Post #919 (isolation #91) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:48 pm

Bingle you don't know my role unless you do which impressive cause I don't think I crumbed

Dwlee99 · Post Post #920 (isolation #92) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:48 pm

In post 905, Bingle wrote:Dwlee says they stayed home all night, presumably practicing that sick deadpan into the mirror in order to prevent giving away any hints as to their emotions today

This is funny

Dwlee99 · Post Post #937 (isolation #93) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:49 am

In post 935, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 882, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 816, Dwlee99 wrote:Unless you think I'm a fourth scum faction (mafia + sk + cult + ???)
Tbh I think a 4th group scum faction is entirely possible after last 3d20 had cult, Mafia, and werewolves. I know SK adds an extra layer, but it's not like this game setup was made for balance and SK can even more easily kill scum that way making the game more winnable for town
Dwlee pls respond

It's possible sure cause my alignment die was initially 15 (which I think is werewolf) but I also think somewhere the mod said that some stuff could be consolidated like masons and scum factions

Dwlee99 · Post Post #939 (isolation #94) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:51 am

In post 2, Cook wrote:If there are two or more Masonries which are only single-member I will merge them together. This change will be reflected in role PMs. By being part of a merged masonry you are only guaranteed to not be part of the group which your original masonry was working against.

ex. if I merge Alice the Mason and Bob the Atheist into a single Mason-Atheist PT, Alice is guaranteed to Bob to not be a Mafia member, and Bob is guaranteed to Alice to not be Cult, and, in addition, to never be Cult (is immune to culting.)
The only other change I will make is fudging all Cult rolls that come after the first Cult roll to 3p. As a result, if you roll Cult but don't get it, you know there's a Cult!

Nvm, scum factions don't get merged

Dwlee99 · Post Post #943 (isolation #95) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:56 am

In post 941, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 939, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2, Cook wrote:If there are two or more Masonries which are only single-member I will merge them together. This change will be reflected in role PMs. By being part of a merged masonry you are only guaranteed to not be part of the group which your original masonry was working against.

ex. if I merge Alice the Mason and Bob the Atheist into a single Mason-Atheist PT, Alice is guaranteed to Bob to not be a Mafia member, and Bob is guaranteed to Alice to not be Cult, and, in addition, to never be Cult (is immune to culting.)
The only other change I will make is fudging all Cult rolls that come after the first Cult roll to 3p. As a result, if you roll Cult but don't get it, you know there's a Cult!
Nvm, scum factions don't get merged
So, if anything, another scum faction seems likely to me

We have two kills though which points to one left after enchant (hopefully)

Although reg could have theoretically been solo mafia

Dwlee99 · Post Post #953 (isolation #96) » Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:37 am

I knew that dragon of the west guy was acting weird

Dwlee99 · Post Post #954 (isolation #97) » Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:37 am

Anyway I think I'm unpartnered with dragon here so anyone who thinks I'm scum is postulating five scum groups

Dwlee99 · Post Post #955 (isolation #98) » Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:39 am

Also, five scum have died so far. So best case scenario we started 7 - 6, which is uhh wow we're getting kinda lucky to be winning. But also, it may have actually started worse than that. I think we can at least assume that we started with 5 or 6 town?? Hopefully? So we should be at 4 - 3 worst case rn

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1002 (isolation #99) » Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:30 pm

I had an exam homie chill

I don't have results

Dwlee99 · Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:04 pm

They would have killed cyrus, no?

Dwlee99 · Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:18 pm

multitasking jailkeeper

I haven't done anything

Almost jailkept loftwing last night but decided not to cause "what if someone shot there" and then apparently someone almost did so I feel validated

Dwlee99 · Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:33 pm

STD has tracker results right

We should be able to figure it out

Dwlee99 · Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:33 pm

Anyway I think we just kill claimed scum again???

And hopefully that is a win?

Dwlee99 · Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:49 pm

But STD said owl targeted four people so owl wasn't roleblocked

Dwlee99 · Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:49 pm

VOTE: strange

Dwlee99 · Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:50 pm

I can block cyrus

Dwlee99 · Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:31 am

Ideally, game just ends killing the claimed scum that would give us a 6th total scum in a 13 player

Dwlee99 · Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:31 am

Anyway once everyone agrees to plan with a post explaining what they're doing we should be good to hammer

I am jailkeeping cyrus

Dwlee99 · Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:47 am

I blocked Cyrus as promised

Dwlee99 · Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:55 am

It means I jailkept Cyrus and didn't do anything else so I didn't, for instance, try to make a kill

Dwlee99 · Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:20 pm

He claimed tracker yesterday and tracked me last night

Dwlee99 · Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:32 pm

In post 1051, Bingle wrote:I'm pretty sure JK doesn't solve the "I survived" conundrum, so Dwlee isn't the last scum based on that. (Ru and I, also not last scum via same logic.)

Loft either IS a rb or is paired with Dwlee who killed Dunn.

I'll come back to this in a bit.

Can you say this with more words and maybe a diagram?

Dwlee99 · Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:00 pm

I can be multitasking without a second ability wdym

Dwlee99 · Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:51 pm

The roleblocker also would have died, right?

Dwlee99 · Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:52 pm

I forget what all the claims are but do we really not have a non-roleblocking protect

Dwlee99 · Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:55 pm

But enchant was a PGO and bingle targeted him

Dwlee99 · Sun Nov 07, 2021 6:12 pm

I say we kill Cyrus and then plan a different jailkeep target for me tonight

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:37 am

Why me when I have also been right about things like our day one elimination

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:03 am

I rolled werewolf multitasking jailkeeper and fudged it to town

Sure, I could use both a kill and jailkeep if I had a kill... but also I haven't even used my jailkeep at all this game until last night

I'd have been trying to roleblock people or something if I was scum

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:01 am

In post 1091, Bingle wrote:Dwlee can only be scum if they’re paired with Mama. Or solo with another solo scum in the setup.

Multitasking only means they rolled 5 for their modifier. It has nothing to do with alignment.

Being right about individual scum also doesn’t really net any towncred because we have no idea what flavor of scum remains.

I felt pretty good about catching scum day one but now that we know over half the game was scum it's pretty funny

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:02 am

Btw I think night kill flavor might actually matter?

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:03 am

Nvm I think it is just for funsies

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:07 am

I was thinking we could kill loftwing then Cyrus and I block each other cause he should be able to jailkeep tonight. I have to clarify how that interaction would work though

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:08 am

I'm about 50/50 between last scum being Loftwing and Cyrus rn

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:14 am

Loftwing what did you do last night?

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:58 am

What does stall in 1v1 mean

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:12 am

Did you block anyone other than bingle? No?

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:12 am

Also scum win on parity so we can only real go to 2 - 1. Can't stall forever for a draw

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:14 am

No lim might actually be good here. We can repeat actions but have mama Ru check more people and see if we can find the doctor / protective that should exist

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:14 am

UNVOTE:

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:34 am

Wait

So you can confirm I didn't kill Dunnstral then

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:37 am

Ah cool

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:27 am

In post 1117, Loftwing wrote:I don't think we could ever lose here, as long as me and dweelee are both town.

You're gonna have to convince me you're town

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:12 am

I can block every night

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:49 am

If I did that I would be a werewolf lol

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:15 am

I can't read sorry

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:30 am

Loftwing why did you think I was scum going into day 2

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:32 am

The role has nothing to do with alignment here though

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:34 am

Tbh y'all could both be town lol

Ugh idk how to solve this when we don't even know what alignment the last scum is

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:35 am

In post 692, Loftwing wrote:Hmm, 2 players died?

So we probably have Mafia/Werewolves, or maybe Mafia + Werewolves, but
never
Mafia×Werewolves.

In post 698, Loftwing wrote:VOTE: Dwlee

Or I am town and genuinely do scumread Dwlee

In post 700, Loftwing wrote:Also, Mama Ru, how do you know your ability failed?

In post 907, Loftwing wrote:Also, I don't think that Dweelee killed anyone here. It's not a hard clear, but they di'n't do no murderin''

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:42 am

In post 427, Quiet Owl wrote:
More likely to be town:

Dragon of the West
- Same as above.
cyrus62 - Not sure what I think of the alignment roll claim strategy but he's definitely trying.

Enchant
- Feels town. If they're scum they've shot themselves in the foot at least twice by now.

StrangeMatter
- Makes my chicken nugget brain hurt but at least they're poking people.

ssbm_Kyouko
- Proactive, asking questions. However they claimed that RegRider townslipped and then immediately revoted him when questioned about this.

More likely to be scum:

Bingle - I am biased here and that is the only reason that I am not pushing this wagon. I still really don't like how they keep arguing to leave the cult alive. Why does it matter so much that the cult is left alive? Are you the cult? The cult endgames groupscum faster than groupscum can endgame cult, despite the cult having a conversion rate of 1 per night and we may very well end up with 5+ kills tonight?
Loftwing - Folded too fast on that gambit. Lots of jokes and mech speculation and doesn't go after players.

Too quiet:

Mama Ru - Improving on this front, but started the game with asking for roll claims.

RegRider
- Too passive.
Save The Dragons - Has posted almost nothing.

Dwlee99
- They have school but still have a fluffy iso. Proactive in that they were first to vote for RegRider though.

Dunnstral
- Posted even less than Save The Dragons.

For future reference

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:10 am

Y'all we could be in ELO rn let's chill for a sec

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:47 am

Cook didn't design anything

Everyone got what they rolled with a fudge, there were no other tweaks to my knowledge except for the cult thing. So it isn't about cook designing or not designing a balanced setup

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:48 am

If I knew what actual game ratio was going to be I probably would have not fudged my alignment die to town but here we are

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:58 am

What is happening

Also Bingle can't get another result because I think they used all their shots?

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:07 pm

This is so funny lol

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:09 pm

In post 1168, Loftwing wrote:So here's the master plan:

During the night, Ru, STD, and Bingle use their investigative actions.

I roleblock Mama Ru and STD.
Dweelee jailkeeps Bingle.

If anyone dies, then it is guarenteed that either I or Dweelee is scum.

If Mama Ru or STD report recieving any result other than No Result, and Bingle reports recieving No Result, then I am scum and should be killed immediately.

If Mama Ru or STD report recieving No Result, then we kill Dweelee immediately

If Mama Ru, STD, and Bingle all report recieving a result other than No Result, then Dweelee jailkept me and should be killed immediately.

Under these circumstances, it is impossible for a solo scum in me or Dweelee to kill without resulting in an immediate loss.
The only fail here is if there is a pair of scum here and one of them is either me or Dweelee (in which case we would gain majority immediately.)

Couldn't you use this plan to fake a "guilty" on me by just roleblocking me lol

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:10 pm

There isn't a cult still

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:12 pm

I will look into it Cyrus

Was planning to do some partner searching soon

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:19 pm

In post 1194, Loftwing wrote:If I were scum, I couldn't both roleblock you and kill at the same time, mainly because I don't have multitasking.
If I tried framing you by roleblocking you, then either no one would die, or I would be paired scum with someone anyway, and the game would be over in a scum win.

Okay so you see how this plan sucks if you're scum then right

Cause then you just frame me to be mislimmed

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:32 pm

But then if I were scum I could make it seem like you tried to frame me by jailkeeping you

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:55 pm

Hmm that might make sense

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:47 pm

I can block cyrus again tonight if we go no lim

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:59 pm

No lim, we block three people that aren't mama ru while the entire player list gets checked by mama ru. If someone dies we have three "clears" (only not completely if we have 2+ scum left which if so jeez)

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:00 pm

I block cyrus. Loftwing blocks STD and Bingle. That leaves mama ru unblocked and STD can verify that Loftwing actually targeted him with the roleblock through the tracker result.

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:07 pm

This isn't that ridiculous to go for optimal

What WIM do you need here

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:12 pm

Cyrus we only want to block three people total. We need Loftwing to block two people to block three and me to block one. If you block someone then you're not being blocked and I'd like you to be blocked over other people here. And if STD does have a result then we know that Loftwing didn't actually roleblock there, which outs Loftwing as having done the kill. But we also want for mama ru to get a result tonight so we don't block her.

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:29 pm

Okay you block me then, Loftwing blocks STD and bingle. Mama ru investigates Loftwing/Cyrus

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:31 pm

do you seriously think Loftwing and I are teamed here

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:31 pm

How is that a thought you can entertain rn

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:32 pm

Need I remind you that day one was basically Loftwing calling for my head and me threatening to hammer him out of spite

And then day 2 he enters claiming to have roleblocked me but still is voting me

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:33 pm

In post 708, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 698, Loftwing wrote:VOTE: Dwlee

Or I am town and genuinely do scumread Dwlee
scum claim LOL

VOTE: loftwing

anyway will probably vote enchant when the nature of the guilty comes but if someone is a vig shoot loftwing, thanks

Or me asking someone to vig my teammate

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:34 pm

In what world do these things happen to you

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:35 pm

If I was scum with Loftwing here we would hard deserve to win for somehow hard pushing each other multiple days in a row while other eliminations went through and me being consensus townread here

But in this scenario I wouldn't be proposing a plan where Loftwing and I could be insta outed if we made a kill instead of going with your idea of just flipping Cyrus

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:06 pm

We could lim Cyrus and double block STD or something like that

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:07 pm

I'm low-key worried there is a team of 2 left though so I'd rather no lim

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:21 pm

Rolecops get modifiers my guy

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:22 pm

Did STD ever claim who owl busdrove

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:25 pm

Is there anyway to verify that? Who did mamaru target that night?

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:31 pm

Okay that's what I was looking for

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:38 pm

Well Dunn's killer wouldn't be able to get bus driven unless action resolution on the ascetic only works after the kill (so only investigations)

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:38 pm

Oh and recruits

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:39 pm

Wait a second

Why did someone kill Dunnstral

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:43 pm

Did enchant/other scum ever claim who they targeted (sorry I can't be assed to look for myself, on mobile)

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:50 pm

Okay but we should have had three kills unless someone who killed was blocked N1. Or two scum targeted the same person. But what scum was killing Dunnstral. Dude had 10 posts and basically no content

Dwlee99 · Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:50 pm

Oh oh bus driver probably

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:21 am

If Dunn and enchant were swapped then Bingle wouldn't have gotten a not town result

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:17 am

So was owl protected and you investigated not enchant, or did owl not swap enchant

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:28 am

There's a doctor somewhere, they probably protected the bus driver. Let's no lim and follow my plan for finding the doctor

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:30 am

So bus driver got doctor protected

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:17 am

Yeah who was Bingle's doctor target N1?

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:25 am

Yea I'll wait for him to answer

I should start tabling stuff

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:32 am

Okay but why would I read that

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:41 am

Is Cyrus solo scum or partnered with someone loftwing?

Feel like we are missing a kill somewhere both nights

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:52 am

Okay so the conclusion here though is that one of loft/STD/Bingle is scum, right?

Cause a doctor only protects loftwing if they're scum with them right? Or if they are swapping loftwing and bingle and are scum with bingle so protect loftwing to protect bingle

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:54 am

And the doctor can't be me or mama ru cause we were roleblocked.

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:56 am

The other possibility is that scum STD is lying about seeing "loftwing" (where we are drawing the bus drive from) visit Enchant

That or someone else visited enchant and was bus driven with Loftwing, but that isn't possible cause then we would need two doctor protections

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:03 am

Spoiler:

Summary: I think one of Bingle/STD/Loftwing has to be scum here

Anyone disagree?

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:09 am

What isn't making sense in my logic?

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:17 am

Proof that one of Loft/Bingle/STD is scum:

Assume STD is town. If not, we are done.

Assume Bingle is town. If not, we are done.

Then Loftwing must have been swapped with Bingle by the bus driver per STD's result. This implies that Loftwing was targeted with a heal, but the heal comes from scum, and scum would only want to heal scum, so loftwing is scum.

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:23 am

Well I don't want to dismiss the chance of bingle and or STD

I also think it might be possible to actually reach a contradiction on STD and Bingle town so I'm gonna keep working on this

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:28 am

Correct. Which is where I'm going with this loftwing

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:30 am

Okay so let's assume loftwing is scum and bingle and STD are town. Then we know mama ru and I aren't the doctor cause roleblocking shenanigans and me being obviously unpartnered with Loftwing, but there is a doctor out there that healed Loftwing. So that doctor must be cyrus, because STD/Bingle/me/mama ru aren't the doctor. But Cyrus and Loftwing aren't paired, so loftwing can't be scum while Bingle and STD are town imo.

So therefore at least one of bingle and STD have to be scum

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:41 am

But what about my logic that says one of Bingle/loft/std is scum.

I mean I guess solo doctor serial killer could be a thing but why would a serial killer use the doctor instead of the kill and then fake claim even-night jailkeeper

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:41 am

I'd like to go to the no lim option regardless, but I think STD should be the role cop check

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:05 am

In post 1356, Bingle wrote:
In post 1350, Dwlee99 wrote:But what about my logic that says one of Bingle/loft/std is scum.
It's based on an assumption that scum wouldn't doc town, which isn't necessarily correct. It does seem reasonable, however, and that logic is why the option of eliminate Bingle is one that I keep bringing up.

Either way I think we go with my plan for no lim and role cop to find the doctor

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:27 pm

If we block each other then neither of us could have killed though Cyrus

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:20 pm

In post 1366, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 1365, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 1364, Dwlee99 wrote:If we block each other then neither of us could have killed though Cyrus
You kinda brunt my trust last night..
It's like this scum either don't have any kills left or did a no kill to fake a guilty on me.

How is it burning your trust for me to jailkeep you

Dwlee99 · Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:39 pm

In post 1369, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 1368, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1366, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 1365, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 1364, Dwlee99 wrote:If we block each other then neither of us could have killed though Cyrus
You kinda brunt my trust last night..
It's like this scum either don't have any kills left or did a no kill to fake a guilty on me.
How is it burning your trust for me to jailkeep you
Cuse you think I'm scum here . Not taking into account that scum could no kill.

well if they no kill we can repeat role copping. And if they do kill, then you, me, and the two people loftwing block will be conftown