Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn Mafia (Game Over)

[House]

VLA September 17th-20th

(Also, ego)

[House]

I'm officially here and reading from Page 1. If anyone would like me to pay extra attention to particular points, or give me some things to consider while reading, I'd appreciate it.

Have you thought about using solar and going off the grid?

That's worth consideration.

[House]

You voted someone and then developed reads on other players. In a catch up post.

Why even vote someone if you don’t have enough information to see whether they’re going to end up being your ultimate vote five minutes from then? It reads backwards.

Not really buying this post as genuine.

I'm pretty sure we're all aware there is more than one scum.

I’m not sure how you arrived at the conclusion I was implying I thought there was one scum or that sircakez thought there was one scum.

I’m not even sure why you would think this as either alignment.

There's nothing wrong with putting down a vote on one scumspect and stating reads of other players or continuing to hunt in any way.

[House]

* Stage 0 - Nothing happens
* Stage 1 - 2 days taken off of day deadline
* Stage 2 - Hostile factions members gain Multitasking modifier
* Stage 3 - Elimination costs one less vote (Not applicable in a MeLo/ELo)

There is nothing particularly scary in these Danger meters, other than possibly Multitasking late game. The other two can be easily managed by not being careless or inattentive.

Success bonus for raid participants: gains 1-shot for applicable roles

Scum could possibly also have roles that are applicable (I assume this has been talked about).

I don't see any particular reason right away why raids would ever fail.

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Flavor speaking, depending on the setup, this could be multi-ball with Garleans and Beast Tribes as two separate scum teams, or there could be a Serial Killer if GiF made Lahabrea a solo third party in that manner.

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Starting actual reading of the game now.

Unless scum falls first tier missions, which will suggest their roles are NOT x-shot.

[House]

Yeah, I didn't say that.

Then I misunderstood something, somewhere.

The day is about to start so I can't review right now.

I'll try to remember to look back at this later to see where I hiccuped.

[House]

Toogaloo is town
Bell is town
Head one head two is town I think
Tic tac is town I think

STD pick a player to scumread and I'll sheep you

/inb4 StD votes you.

[House]

Others just towntold hard enough that scum got narrowed down *shrug*
Scum caught for the wrong reasons is still scum that’s been caught

-Qrow

You didn't catch shit, eliminating me. Contributing to use my red flip that game to support your asinine ideas is nonsensical for reasons I've been bouncing off your thick head since that game ended.

Point to a single post of mine in that game that actually shown any knowledge of the game state or had anything other than complaints about not being able to keep up.

My elimination was a lazy play that happened to work out, bottom line.

[House]

Also House I crumbed my original role to you

Kinda silly, considering you know I don't crumb hunt.

- House

Well, would you have been able to confirm it later?

Idk, where is the post?

[House]

I fucking KNEW you felt off this game, though!

[House]

VOTE: House
Bring back the old signature!

-Qrow

The fact I voted you and not “Mandelbrot” was deliberate.

Yeah, see, that kind of stuff just goes right over my head.

I don't get it even after you told me that's what you did.

[House]

Would've been nice if that was something I could intuit.

If anything, I would have considered it a Roleswapper crumb, so be thankful I don't crumb hunt, I guess?

[House]

It's annoying that people were still trying to scumread me after my play this game, lol.

I thought our role was a powerhouse for town, and no way would I give Titus free reign to use her role after her n1 hood posting.

[House]

I'm with Nancy on this.

Even Yume claimed the negative utility aspect of our role on d1. He could have at least done that.

[House]

Yume was great to hydra with, by the way.

She kept me off a couple mislims in the hydra pt.

[House]

Yume was great to hydra with, by the way.

She kept us* off a couple mislims in the hydra pt.

Derp

[House]

Feel better, GiF.

[House]

Not really my best game, bit it's nice to be seen as a threat when you are just a VT.

Dude I legit was thinking of making a Best Performing Town nomination of {You, Sakura Hana, Romance} as the three slots who most contributed to the town win. (Other slots did their own amount of work, obviously, but those three are the names aside from myself that I'd say stood out and since you can't self-nominate anyway, MY nomination would legit me you + Sakura + Romance.)

Rude.

A lot of shit got done in night hoods, and scum was reading us as VT up until I claimed (because of paranoia posted in one of the night hoods).

Yeah, we didn't lead any ZOMGSCUMLIMS, but we *did* manage to not only stay under scum's radar, but also avoid Neighborizing scum and thus giving away our role.

But I guess none of that matters because, y'know, it's just "lol house, shit town with shit reads and shit play".

Igotchu.

[House]

Your work was, by your own statement, mostly role-related.

I couldn't have USED my role as long as I did without staying under scum's radar as a perceived VT, and choosing exclusively town players which prevented outing me to the scum team.

Even back at D1, I had come around to townreading dwlee, but I couldn't very well say, "Hey Titus, we want to help you and dwlee communicate because I think you're both town." I had to signal my intentions so they'd put together who built that hood and most likely had access to it. Then, I maintained that information flow by leaving one of those informed townies in the hood with another townie so no single town player's death destroyed our credibility.

Had I invited a single scum player, I'd have turned into a prime night kill target because of my ability to keep play ongoing during an otherwise locked down period. The ability for 2 townies to collaborate on decisions to submit a night action is far more powerful than just submitting an action based on one's own perspective, and the ability to keep that functionality hidden from scum while weaving town players in and out of the hoods was essential to the successful use of the role... all the while leaving scum thinking we were just a VT.

It's not like the players were just "eenie meenie minie moe" chosen and otherwise left to fate and random luck. There was strategy involved in every single decision made in the use of this role and the daytime communication with previous neighbors in collaborating on the next night's hood.

[House]

I'll nominate you house <3

You're a sweetie. <3

At the root of the issue isn't some desire for a scummy nom. I'm just frustrated with always being overlooked for any sort of basic

recognition

when I actually do something meaningful because of the, "oh, it's just House, what the fuck does he know" kind of mentality.

Yeah, I'm a socially awkward person. I don't always say the right/acceptable things, and sometimes my reasoning is incomprehensible. But what the fuck do I *know*? More than nearly anyone bothers to give me credit for.

[House]

Actually, I did compliment you on your use of the neighborhoods because I thought they were constructive, townie decisions.

I'm sorry, Bell.

I get all up in my feels at times.