Mini Normal 2245: LJITGBSMoD [game over!]

[Jolyne]

not to towntell, but this game started?

[Jolyne]

deadass forgot this game existed until I had a brainwave about thinkingabout how many games i was alive in

anyways VOTE: darby, the younger was better anyways

[Jolyne]

koba altslipped 5 times in mini normal 2232

I spectated that and didn’t catch it. Must be scum insider info.
VOTE: T3

didn't you message me post game about it? lmao?

[Jolyne]

oh nvm I'm thinking of something else

[Jolyne]

if i had to shoot 1 person thats posted thus far as a yolo scumread it'd be norwee ngl

[Jolyne]

probably followed by t3

[Jolyne]

ok im going back to watching kaiji im gonna subscribe this thread on main account and then proceed to alt slip 50 times

[Jolyne]

marci town

[Jolyne]

UNVOTE: darby
They're showing a towny thought process - also im vla until monday, very busy weekend. i delegate thread leading to marci and darby

[Jolyne]

NOOOO IM BEING OUT JESTERED BY NOT_MAFIA

LMAOOO
camel too funny to lim d1, sorry.

[Jolyne]

UNVOTE: darby
They're showing a towny thought process - also im vla until monday, very busy weekend. i delegate thread leading to marci and darby

This post feels genuine, same for norwee's comment about marci mindmelding.

How does it come across as genuine? I think this is my fourth post and I so far have not come across as any sort of leader.

I don't think jolyne was saying you're a leader, they were saying you should lead.

^

i think i'll keep to myself what i saw - yall can be rest assured i cant just make up a reason because there is such a small sample of posts that i 100% did have something in mind when i said "towny thought process"

i can clear some players off just 2 short posts sometimes - this is no exception

[Jolyne]

VOTE: Alice i wanna park here while im gone

[Jolyne]

vote count 1.04

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-10-25 14:15:00).

yeet

Val89 [4]:

Gamma Emerald, NorwegianboyEE, T3, marcistar

DArby [2]:

camelCasedSnivy, AliceK

AliceK [1]:

Jolyne

marcistar [1]:

Val89

Not_Mafia [1]:

Not_Mafia

NorwegianboyEE [1]:

DArby

T3 [1]:

Dwlee99

not voting [2]:

redtea, toxictaipan

mod notes

~ everyone has confirmed.

flavour

what the fuck are these wagons

i have a lot of work to do when monday rolls around dont i

[Jolyne]

dwlee town

[Jolyne]

id rather not lim norwee but i can see why he's getting votes. not as confident on townreading him here but i'll shelve it

[Jolyne]

can anyone explain why they townread alice here because
???? yeah we should be voting there right now

[Jolyne]

ok holy shit gamma is town as fuck LMAO
literally opened that iso and the vibe like punched me in the face like *town*

[Jolyne]

As far as I am concerned, I have played to my meta

You literally haven’t.

okay you're town

why?

[Jolyne]

"oh, Val usually posts walls of crap that result in him picking up a few early votes while people discuss the relative merits as to why he openly posts walls of crap.

Hmm... Val hasn't posted a wall of crap this time. In fact, he's done the exact opposite, then expressed disappointment only Marci has commented on it.

Why could he have not posted a wall of crap this time? Nah, don't think about that, just push him, and then if he does explain what should be obvious to anyone who's played with him, just call him crap scum and pretend the word count is all that matters."

this is scum venting about their circumstances lol
ok nvm i changed my mind i will consolidate
VOTE: val

[Jolyne]

that is - that post combined with the post right before my post stream because i saw it and like though "ok just 1 post abt this maybe nothing" but then like the fact val is on and on about this it is the type of frustration you express when you're scum unable to mimic your townplay and have to resort to defensiveness.

[Jolyne]

e-2

[Jolyne]

why the fuck did you dayvig someone without declaring any intent?
UNVOTE:

now i see why you manged to get wagoned.

[Jolyne]

oh this is the good ending where we didn't get pranked lmfao

[Jolyne]

were u purposefully playing like this val

i sure hope not because being naturally townread as IC is much better instead of crutching on your ability

[Jolyne]

VOTE: Alice
can we have this now thx

[Jolyne]

Well, there are a few extra words in my role pm, so don't judgee me too harshly just yet.

Have any of your other reads changed in light of the reveal of the last 3 of those words, Jolyne?

yes but I'm going to let people react first before I out them

[Jolyne]

why r u so focused on alice whatd she do wrong

do you townread them?

[Jolyne]

You can critise my play when you learn what the other words are. Jolyne is wrong about me having a dayvig, but honestly, I think if I did, I would have used it on you.

You know how a few posts ago Jolyne was saying they thought I was expressing frustration I couldn't mimic my town play?

I'm feeling this "waah, you are playing your role wrong" reeks of frustration you are going to have to go back to the drawing board as far as pushing a mislim goes.

yes, I definitely needed to push the lead wagon over. i was that desperate as scum to unvote off wagon (looks good) to vote on wagon (looks bad)

amazing logic val


just because you're clear doesn't mean we need to listen to you btw

[Jolyne]

ignoring the clear gang

[Jolyne]

i thought you were genuine because your join date + username style makes me feel you are actually new and without enough experience to fake that kind of thing for reactions.

so no, I was not acting and there's a reason 2 people so far have said thaey will ignore you now.

[Jolyne]

It was T3 that outed jolyne as Koba right? Yeah i'm gonna vote there.
Going with initial gut reads ftw.

you were perfectly content to not mention me up to here the past few days - what changed?

[Jolyne]

So, why do you think Jolyne was acting as though they thought I had just dayvigged Norwee, Gamma?

Think they might have been trying to bait me into telling what I've actually done?

Pedit: I was addressing Norwee in my 419.

I think koba actually thought that could be a normal role, they're weird

played in several normal-adjacent games that had the role, so i assumed it was real bc noob claim

[Jolyne]

It was T3 that outed jolyne as Koba right? Yeah i'm gonna vote there.
Going with initial gut reads ftw.

you were perfectly content to not mention me up to here the past few days - what changed?

I guess i just got better than to start sussing you when you literally said you would go V/LA. So i just shelved you as null and thought i wouldn't consider you in the equation until you came back.

I don't believe you. That doesn't mean I think you are scum. I just don't believe this.

[Jolyne]

if you want to see how to play IC well - look at the only other game on this account. We ended up losing but I was definitely helpful towards building a proper towncore.

and I was revealed from the start too, if i was activated it was going to be a much better story for town.

[Jolyne]

who is toxic lol

[Jolyne]

ok actually i agree toxic poe for reasons

[Jolyne]

i was legitimately busy this weekend.

i feel if i was scum i would force myself to go on because of my recent lurky scumgames - because yeah.

i worked 16 hours sat/sun and also it was my mom's bday AND i had a date with my bf so yep, was packed.

[Jolyne]

marci - what do you read toxic as right now?

[Jolyne]

I think there's a better chance of him being scum personally - for reasons. so there's that.

[Jolyne]

which thoughts in particular - can you give examples?

[Jolyne]

"i feel bad for him" is my current read tbh

i can't tell if hes scum or not confidently yet since hes so inactive. hes said some weird stuff, i think his general inactivity is making him a very easy target since he can't explain himself, so i want to help him get into the game more since he seems like he has troubles. i have thoughts surrounding the people who've been interested in him lately, which have had a bit of a large effect on how im reading him ngl, but they feel a bit stupid to talk about.
i largely just want to give them a chance to get into things.

if im forced to say something, townlean i guess, but the line heres wiggly. he just seems

too

easy, and the doubts ive had in the people interested in him. 307 seemed bad to some people, but tbh originally i didnt even find anything wrong with it.

i'd ask to reconsider them in the future and have a close eye. i just can't find myself townreading the slot later on personally and rn i am not townreading it either. especially reeval based on how they treat any flipped slots.

[Jolyne]

i cannot say my lips are sealed. but you have to trust my reasons!

[Jolyne]

which thoughts in particular - can you give examples?

@gamma

[Jolyne]

well there is a reason im not currently *voting* them so yeah

[Jolyne]

Spoiler:

It was T3 that outed jolyne as Koba right? Yeah i'm gonna vote there.
Going with initial gut reads ftw.

you were perfectly content to not mention me up to here the past few days - what changed?

I guess i just got better than to start sussing you when you literally said you would go V/LA. So i just shelved you as null and thought i wouldn't consider you in the equation until you came back.

I don't believe you. That doesn't mean I think you are scum. I just don't believe this.

Well, there are a few extra words in my role pm, so don't judgee me too harshly just yet.

Have any of your other reads changed in light of the reveal of the last 3 of those words, Jolyne?

yes but I'm going to let people react first before I out them

why the fuck did you dayvig someone without declaring any intent?
UNVOTE:

now i see why you manged to get wagoned.

ok holy shit gamma is town as fuck LMAO
literally opened that iso and the vibe like punched me in the face like *town*

can anyone explain why they townread alice here because
???? yeah we should be voting there right now

id rather not lim norwee but i can see why he's getting votes. not as confident on townreading him here but i'll shelve it

I think these post potentially best illustrate what I’m liking about Jolyne rn

but what *about them*?
I know the answer but I want you to tell us.

[Jolyne]

why

[Jolyne]

Oh my join date here is also when I was 13. Okay I feel bad for spamming so lemme find something to look at

Dwlee is playing to [their] scum meta but I'll need more data

See I think this is bullshit

I think t3 just made it up

T3 claims to have this super epic meta tell on me. So how am I doing it now. It's fake. Not real. It's cap: bazinga, even.

But is t3 scum to you...or?

[Jolyne]

Btw the fact no one is hopping on alice is like even better proof that slot is going to flip scum pls come join kthx

[Jolyne]

I was thinking about this game during my break and im comfortable locktowning both gamma and marci atp - very towny people dwlee + darby. They all have good vibes and have been towntelling thus far more than every other slot (except me ofc)

alice / norwee / t3 looking like the bottom of my poe rn

[Jolyne]

Forgot toxic- theyre right above those 3 names.

[Jolyne]

Also, wow.
You joined and played games when you were 14 years old?

I registered an Epicmafia account when I was

10

. Beat that.

Played old school runescape when i was 7/8 on poophead604

[Jolyne]

You’re still playing towards your scum meta btw

Dwlee has towntold more than he ever does as scum so I'm not sure where this is coming from

[Jolyne]

Can you explain what this "scum meta" entails?

[Jolyne]

Gamma Emerald

toxictaipan

AliceK

NorwegianboyEE

Val89

T3

DArby

marcistar

Jolyne

Dwlee99

Not_Mafia

redtea

camelCasedSnivy

this is my PoE as it stands

Why do you townread Alice and norwee lmfao

[Jolyne]

Gamma Emerald

toxictaipan

AliceK

NorwegianboyEE

Val89

T3

DArby

marcistar

Jolyne

Dwlee99

Not_Mafia

redtea

camelCasedSnivy

this is my PoE as it stands

Why do you townread Alice and norwee lmfao

[Jolyne]

Norwee is likely innocent. Darby and Gamma have at least 1 scum.

However I am too lazy to elaborate on that so:
VOTE: Not_Mafia

lol bye

[Jolyne]

Pros of alice flip: spews gamma, me, darby, and NM as town
Cons: literally none(except if im wrong in which case that isnt a real scenario)

[Jolyne]

How confident are you on this Alice thing

Cause last game the wagon just kinda happened on them and I hopped on cause I was scum

I only voted on it last time to ensure hammer so i feel i have a grasp on them.

I also dont mind t3 bc they're in my poe too but yeah.

[Jolyne]

Confidence aside, what is scummy from Alice?
Besides, voting N_M is an universal desire we all have inside us.

lol i was having hopes you were town but at the very least you are confirmed scum to me atp based on the preflips i have - you can go after alice.

[Jolyne]

no im not tolerating this

[Jolyne]

like i am at the point where I wanna plow thru my current poe until we hit town.

[Jolyne]

VOTE: Jolyne

Don’t mind me, just parking here real quick.

Have you considered actaully reading the game youre in in whole? You might actually be able to understand how i reached my conclusions there instead of looking like a clown. I'm not dealing with this shit from my townreads

[Jolyne]

Every other player here who has played with me will tell you my confidence on my reads is very natural here. I am simply good at this point at spotting town.

[Jolyne]

You can read Alice's posts for one and imagine her flipping scum and go from there

[Jolyne]

No one but you questioned its because it was pretty obvious

[Jolyne]

Norwee is likely innocent. Darby and Gamma have at least 1 scum.

However I am too lazy to elaborate on that so:
VOTE: Not_Mafia

Alice trying to feed a 1v1 with people I feel are town already (sowing subtle doubt is a scum ploy/trying to force 5050s between townies) - and then after this they try to start a wagon on NM thats an easy way to dodge a lim themselves or norwee - who I believe is a strong possibility of partner - and bar that the plausibility remains when you factor in she may want to keep hands off the norwee wagon to not need to explain herself and look good off it - so it goes both ways here.

[Jolyne]

My reads were independently already built in that direction I just wanted to point it out because I know most people require more evidence than my own observations. This is part of that process of gathering evidence to support the theory ive already established.

[Jolyne]

The intent is to convince others rather than state ive changed my mind or think thats a turning point for me essentially.
nm was more like - yeah i don't think alice votes for partner there and finds NM wagon as an easy out.

[Jolyne]

Not to say that it isn't a valid playstyle. It just feels weird to have this so early on in the game.

I townlocked half the playerlist(correctly) in a game on MU in the first 24 hours. I am just experienced enough with this game at this point.

I'm actually much less likely as scum to give out townreads like that(not that its beyond my scumrange I just prefer to go about things differently than the aggressive mass clearing).

Glad you at least managed to understand this is possible for me

[Jolyne]

redtea town

[Jolyne]

I'll consolidate on toxic when there's 48 hours left. As is i want the discussion time

[Jolyne]

@Jolyne

I could work with you here, but why are you suggesting we start with AliceK over Norwee?

Because i have more confidence on alice

essentially it is alice>toxic>norwee atm

[Jolyne]

And are you prepared to share any of what pinged you about Alice to lead to that confidence, or are we still to take it on blind trust?

Are you townreading alice?

[Jolyne]

"do i dislike anyone specific" sort of..
but i also just feel this isn't very likely to hit scum rn. i feel like up until recently, i've been the only one really not fine with the toxic stuff, even he didn't defend himself, i feel like when everyones fine with a wagon theres usually a big going on. there should be more pushback if hes scum, if not from his partners, then from him himself. if he had a team backing him up, would he have not been coming in in 727 with an idea on whats happening, and stay longer to start defending himself..? it feels like hes truly alone against everyone rn.
sure he could be scum, but to me i think "scummy seeming inactive town" fits him more rn.
feels like people are trying to get off easy <3 this as well seems very cherry picked, other people are similar to him rn but hes the one catching all the attention?

yeah, I get this
basically toxic can only make sense with certain team comps
the teaam could be something like toxic/NM/? tho

we shouldn't be trying to preflip team solve - speculating is cool but we shouldn't assume to know what the team is exactly because scum are liable to distance.

[Jolyne]

Did you read what I said in 831, Norwee?

Invests, or indeed any PR with a night-targetable ability get switched off when an ascetic dies. Scum get more powerful when an ascetic dies. This looks like a game of "hunt the ascetic" for scum.

They might not need to hunt for them in the day; they could have powers that let them find them at night.

You don't understand why scum might be chomping at the bit to start pew pew-ing and hope they hit the mark, while giving said time-limited invests as little to go on as possible?

yup this Checks out

[Jolyne]

Toxic's post is neither towny nor scummy to me and does not affect my read on them. Its a single thought thats venting about not being able to be engaged - I would not read into it on its own.

[Jolyne]

This day should be over already

This is your attitude 1 hour into the game tho

[Jolyne]

Even if I do end up on a toxic lem it does have a weird policy/rushed vibe to it. I’d like more to go into d2.

I don't see the point. I didn't want to rush it before, but now i don't care because i think his posts just now were scummy as fuck.

Wha? Even if god willing mod made Toxic confirmed scum, shouldn't we use the rest of d1 to figure out who else is most likely scum before we lose a town thru a nk?

Whats your read on toxic then?

[Jolyne]

Koba feels pedantic.

No i feel annoyed

[Jolyne]

theres something i realized based on what val said and im gonna keep it to myself until d2, i think val realizes it too.

[Jolyne]

Actually fuck it -
I'm informed town ascetic
I didnt claim bc public info -> im informed that scum is informed that a town informed ascetic exists.
Which means they know the IC isn't one.
Now can we stop the ascetic talk, val?

[Jolyne]

That was @Val lol

like please lets get alice now

[Jolyne]

Did not mean to quote that

[Jolyne]

Let it vibe. I know what I'm doing.

[Jolyne]

ok actually im stupid and claimed in a stupid way i realized my informed info would be proven wrong literally by scum not having that info
brainfart LOL
I realized bc no ascetic claim it prob has to be you val and scum will likely shoot you anyway so i thought to draw the shot

[Jolyne]

yeah im big fucking dumb

[Jolyne]

(Dont confirm or deny but if im reading you this way as town chances are scum are gonna shoot at you anyway bc of the point i made and yeah. . )

[Jolyne]

let's bury this page and forget about it

[Jolyne]

fuck we need 10 more posts
pls

[Jolyne]

yall know that one image of the guy walking in with pizza and the rooms on fire and v chaotic

Im the fire

[Jolyne]

I modded a game recently with a backup - the effect occurs daystart after all night actions resolve.

[Jolyne]

I dont townread norwee.

[Jolyne]

VOTE: T3

[Jolyne]

Dwlee #810
it's a vivid point i wont lie. Iirc town!norwee won't push shit for no reason, and he's decently accurate, so a town flip will be very informative anyway.

And then you vote norwee anyway

If i’m recently accurate then why would Redtea trust Toxic over me when if i’m correct i might catch more scum. While Toxic is useless?

What's your read on redtea?

[Jolyne]

I think the second bit he could be genuinely confused scum about, basically no one understands ascetic at first glance

It should be in the role card. He can be a scum without this modifier.

Actually adding "lol", before asking for this looks fake. Maybe I need to revisit his iso.

Bruh this is such reachy logic

[Jolyne]

Redtea is at the same locktown level of marci atp

[Jolyne]

?? I did like several pages ago LOL? Are you even reading the game?

[Jolyne]

it's a vivid point i wont lie. Iirc town!norwee won't push shit for no reason, and he's decently accurate, so a town flip will be very informative anyway.

i mean obviously no one does for no reason, but ykwim

Dwlee99
Val89
redtea
NorwegianboyEE
Jolyne

marcistar pending explanation from Jolyne

Gamma Emerald
toxictaipan
AliceK
T3
DArby
Not_Mafia
camelCasedSnivy

Nvm I do have a solid poe for rn. Not quite game winning cause I need to find 1 more townie

Why is gamma and darby low?

[Jolyne]

in my experience its only 2

[Jolyne]

Why is gamma and darby low?

Why should they be in my townie town section

You still haven't talked about marci

ok just gonna ignore u lmao

[Jolyne]

the case is: im good and i dont like explaining reads anymore. they arent on the chopping block so really dont care to explain, as I'd rather my townreads not get yeeted at night because they turn into a universal townread.

[Jolyne]

as for alice, I just straight up dont townread them and theyre at the bottom of my poe, its really like that simple. its how i scumhunt now and my last completed game, it literally landed me 3 scum in a row, with just gamma escaping because t3 gave up.(granted i would have mislimmed a slot that got cop checked)

[Jolyne]

val, you (probably) know already im incredibly perceptive and notice things most don't - so you should just trust my process. d1 i *am* the weakest but I pick up massive steam once a couple people are flipped and i can eliminate possibilities and build worlds based on those flips.

[Jolyne]

i partially fudged my read on you to put hard pressure on you lol
thus why i was very clear about the fact it was e-2

[Jolyne]

I'm not opposed to a lim but I did promise I would at least bin him till d2 and see how i feel then - and I stand by that. I don't really hold sway like you think, my biggest weakness is my charisma and I've learned better than to just shit up the thread with stuff. I only get really pushy when im >90% sure on a read, which happens moreso on d2 onwards.

I really believe between t3/alice is the play here.

[Jolyne]

norwee wants toxic so it feels suboptimal to like push there atp fmpov - but i'd also not oppose a toxic lim because if toxic flips scum that clears norwee.

[Jolyne]

tfw i just remembered camel is in this game?

[Jolyne]

I'd like to take advantage of more discussion time but I will consolidate on toxic regardless tomorrow or sunday.

btw v/la all weekend starting now @datisi

[Jolyne]

These are some of the post I liked most

not to towntell, but this game started?

I think Jolyne is town for this. They did a very similar thing in Purgatory when they townslipped but then admitted they didn't read the setup to make them have a higher chance of townslipping and this is reminding me of that.

"Didn't read the setup" townslip is very dangerous as it is easy too fake.

Good early vigilance (though I will admit, doesn't exactly mesh with her toxic defense later...?)

I don't wanna see anyone acting stupid this game, or you'll have my unlimited fury poured into destroying you. When I have a solve, you'll LISTEN TO IT.

depends

VOTE: darby

I don't like his posts.

what dont u like about them

Comment about vig shot sounded fake. Almost like he tried very hard to act as uninformed as possible. This mindset comes from scum.

Good, thought-out early read.

I think one of the few posts that pinged me as sus earlier is Alice’s: "T3 is being voted a lot, is there an meta reason for that?" post.

The only way to get reads is to keep the very real threat of DEATH hanging over the heads of those that wish to mislead us.

PROVE ME WRONG.

VOTE: AliceK

Where is your head at ATM?

I see your point. I agree however I have a gut feeling that T3 is town and we should look somewhere else.

Trying to make better wagons happen, that's a town move imo, scum would tend to be indifferent to some degree (town can be too but I'm saying being picky about wagons is a towntell, that doesn't mean vice versa)

alicek

you seem fine enough rn, but

Hey Alice, remember that time you asked me if i’d buss both my teammates as scum and i answered no then proceeded to endgame as mafia?


GOOD TIMES~

Haha, very well played. I was suspecting you, but couldn't find good arguments to accuse you. Just hoped I was paranoid. Didn't happen.

do you have any sort of read on norwegianboyee rn..? im curious if anything seems similar to that play you've seen from him, or if you have a townread on him..?

Not much yet. My belief is that people like norwegianboyee you caught in a later stage of the game as they are not doing many mistakes early. Nevertheless, I think in this game he is in "solving" attitude much earlier, so I would say a slight town-lean.

this feels like a very long-term-minded approach to norwee, which I think is town-indicative because scum would want to keep options open.

toxictaipan

im interested in ur input on this val stuff, do u mind giving some thoughts about that and anything else u may have thought of..?

The past 13 pages are exhausting. If I were Val and scum in this situation, I'd be giving some better replies, though. Town is looking for an excuse to lim him and the chip on the shoulder attitude might just be it. I think scum Val would realize this and not be so standoffish.

I think the interactions between DArby and NorwegianboyEE are much more interesting, but can't quite pin a read either way on the two yet.

That's not quite valid. You assume that as Town he would not try to get out of bad situation. Of course you may say there is more Townies than Mafia (more spare parts ), but still it doesn't mean that a one would just give up.

It's not Val post what you should look at.
Also it is not clear for me what DArby's alignment is, but there are better options for today.
UNVOTE:

This was a pretty good post when Val was being targeted
while some people only tried to call Val not scum, Alice actually tried to push elsewhere as well

I don't think toxic is Mafia, because these 2 posts:

toxictaipan

im interested in ur input on this val stuff, do u mind giving some thoughts about that and anything else u may have thought of..?

The past 13 pages are exhausting. If I were Val and scum in this situation, I'd be giving some better replies, though. Town is looking for an excuse to lim him and the chip on the shoulder attitude might just be it. I think scum Val would realize this and not be so standoffish.

I think the interactions between DArby and NorwegianboyEE are much more interesting, but can't quite pin a read either way on the two yet.

Val was in quite bad spot. I don't think the low posting scum, would jump into the thread to provide arguments against elimination.

~ all members of the

mafia

are

backup ascetics

. they may or may not have additional roles and/or modifiers.

wwhats an ascetic..

Check your role pm

Lol but for real, though. I honestly don't know either.

He would need to fake a townslip. That isn't something very popular to do.

while these aren't exactly strong points it felt like Alice meant what she was saying

lmao what the fuck? i dont buy this shit.

[Jolyne]

starting to tinfoil gamma as a potential partner to alice

[Jolyne]

okok i need to get ready to go out bye everyone

[Jolyne]

so my tinfoil is right huh?

[Jolyne]

VOTE: Norwee

yeah .

[Jolyne]

I still think norwee is town fight me

can you elaborate because i dont see him towntelling here.

[Jolyne]

also willing to pivot to T3

not as sure on alice anymore

[Jolyne]

if you're an investigative and get a no result on someone its still almost as good as a guilty tho lmao

[Jolyne]

t3 what is your read on norwee?

[Jolyne]

ayo im lit asf bruhs ama

[Jolyne]

t3 what is your read on norwee?

i have no idea
i townread him, then i realized i didn't really have good reason to townread him

inch resting

[Jolyne]

How did my wagon even vanish wth

I didn't see the scum motivation in voting yourself. Seemed like a very noob town move.
It can be faked as an mafia player in order to fake acting like town,

but that requires more experience

. And it also seems unlikely for an relatively new player to pull such an card in one of their first non-newbie games on MS.

Clearly you've never played a game of mafia with me. (I have played on mafia.gg for quite a while)

im glad i gave you a chance to respond first because i was going to totally call you out on being experienced and esp in chat mafia which is hella prone to self voting as AtE LMFAO

+town for you to do so on your own since you likley did not think i would make that connection

[Jolyne]

i honestly dont like that im just consensus townread here bc scum at least wriggle a little when i have them in my sights and yeah.

gonna reexamine my townreads later but not tonight bcim high as shittttttttttttttttttt lol

[Jolyne]

me, just predicting myself being nigthkilled n2 tho

[Jolyne]

i honestly dont like that im just consensus townread here bc scum at least wriggle a little when i have them in my sights and yeah.

gonna reexamine my townreads later but not tonight bcim high as shittttttttttttttttttt lol

you are just shy of consensus
I, for one, don't tr you

but you should

[Jolyne]

Good morning can we get movement going pls

[Jolyne]

i honestly dont like that im just consensus townread here bc scum at least wriggle a little when i have them in my sights and yeah.

gonna reexamine my townreads later but not tonight bcim high as shittttttttttttttttttt lol

...excuse me what now

You're excused

[Jolyne]

Alice why do you not want to vote norwee?

[Jolyne]

Hold up a second, why am i scum Jolyne?

pepelaugh

[Jolyne]

gamma should be next after norwee flips red btw

[Jolyne]

well maybe you should have checked your mailbox norwee (:

[Jolyne]

ok listen up fuckers

I AM A [REDACTED] MAILMAN WHO SENT MAIL TO NORWEE THAT HE SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED(i do not have gatedness that depends on target like simple)

i instant voted norwee because they did not follow the directions i sent to them

now lets bury him and move on to the next one ok?

[Jolyne]

*mic drop*

[Jolyne]

well it would be quite hard for an ascetic to do so!

[Jolyne]

scum cant be visitied -> norwee was untargetable

norwee is as good as red checked here please.

regardless who wants mail tonight

[Jolyne]

vote count 3.01

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-11-08 08:30:00).

yeet

AliceK [1]:

redtea

not voting [8]:

Gamma Emerald, AliceK, T3, DArby, Jolyne, Dwlee99, Not_Mafia, camelCasedSnivy

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I'm doing this cause rereading the "you're mafia for not getting my message" makes absolutely no sense and I trust town!koba to uh not be that ridiculous (in this way at least lol)
VOTE: Jolyne

lmao funny you say this

I holstered tonight because of the scum roleblocker
i am a 2 shot mailman

VOTE: dwlee

[Jolyne]

darby if im scum with t3 why dont you help me bus him instead of pushing obvious town thx

[Jolyne]

i thought i had a guilty + already scumread norwee and wanted to have mechanical proof after the townflip d1 just in case i was wrong

[Jolyne]

It makes no sense for me to be scum with t3 - do you think i hellbus d1? I wanted t3 for a long time

Irl stress made me not really effort as much in thought processb as i normally would + i was a good PR.

Also I saw you said i was acetic: im not. That was an attempt to save the obvious ascetic IC becsuse normally townies claim ascetic gamestart

[Jolyne]

I think we should look in nm/toxic/t3 here because that's the bottom of my poe rn

[Jolyne]

I derped and forgot that because my brain was ljke "yeah the ic is obv ascetic and will die and then my ability will activate "

[Jolyne]

You *know* im prone to dumb mistakes like that
Like i literally did it with me trying to protect the ic from dying because i was sure other pr with actual useful abilities to find scum would exist.

[Jolyne]

And i was right per darbys claim

[Jolyne]

VOTE: t3
mixed up stuff when i did that my b

[Jolyne]

I have thoughts on Daby's alignment but I want to see more before explaining

there is no way both darby and I are scum together unless there are unclaimed investigatives like ours.

it fits in the sense mine activates once the IC dies and is useful then - and darby's is severely weakened when IC dies.

[Jolyne]

ill be back in a few hours im taking nap

[Jolyne]

lmao did this dude just hammer me while saying im town?

[Jolyne]

literally powerlim them tomorrow LOL

[Jolyne]

i mean even if its e-1 t3 knows that NM exists so lmao

[Jolyne]

im just saying if im scum i would have already self hammered here for low info

[Jolyne]

Im fucking town and now you're just searching for excuses not to flip t3 lmao

[Jolyne]

im just saying if im scum i would have already self hammered here for low info

Yeah, unless you are doing scum theatre with Dwlee. I think at least 1 of you is Mafia.

i dont think dwlee is mafia

[Jolyne]

bullshit

[Jolyne]

retract or die

[Jolyne]

lmao

[Jolyne]

VOTE: Jolyne
Have fun