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[LicketyQuickety]

Day 2 Begins!

Vote Count 2.0

JacksonVirgo - 0
Almost50 - 0
Aaron - 0:
Not_Mafia - 0
Dwlee99 - 0
AliceK - 0
ILUVYTHAN - 0
Ythan - 0
Save The Dragons - 0
Three - 0
UglyDuck - 0
Andresvmb - 0
No Elim - 0

Not Voting - 0

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to Eliminate.

Day 1 Ends in (expired on 2021-11-28 20:00:00)

Mod Notes: Massive apologies for the late start on the game.

[Save The Dragons]

what's up fam

[Almost50]

I am fairly disappointed N_M shot RCE over one of JV/AliceK

VOTE: JV

Can we kill this now?

[Almost50]

Why did you even shoot ON the wagon? It was clear some people were trying to save the SCUM DOCTOR. No one bus'es the DOCTOR, and especially not when the JK has been outed.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm trying to tell you how to play. I am just airing my thoughts and feelings.

[Dwlee99]

Terrible vig shot hmmm

[Three]

LMAO

But A50 wait we're the scummiest players in the game remember?? I thought that the big brain solve was that we were playing to our scum meta and trying to mislim low activity obvtowns!! Or did we bus the Doctor with zero votes on her to save the much more useful Strongman?

[Almost50]

Well, I'm getting used to being called scummy or getting SR'd on D1. It still gets to me sometimes when people "invent reasons" that are totally BS or untrue to do it. Like, "you're not doing anything useful" would be fine I guess. Nobody understand s what I'm doing most of the time anyway.

[Almost50]

I think I'll explain why JV now before anyone asks:

Kyouko's being wagoned. She needs to be saved. Conf!Town Fua votes me. What better wagon for JV to jump on right next? After all, it wasn't them who started it. Then the wagon disappears and Kyouko is the lim again, unless he moves his vote to RCE, in which case whenever Kyouko flips he'd be is a very bad position, so he accepts the fact she was going down anyway.

Alice is also scummy for hopping on my wagon and staying on it, but I had a TR there at one point of the game (I don't even remember why, but I have it the name in some shade of green on my Word file).

[Ythan]

Morning friends.

[JacksonVirgo]

End of Night 1

fua has died.

They were:

Spoiler:

Welcome, fua. You are a Town Jailkeeper.

Each night you may jail a player, protecting them from all nightkills and roleblocking them.

You win when the Mafia have been removed and at least one townie remains alive.

RCEnigma has died.

They were:

Spoiler:

Welcome, RCEnigma. You are a Vanilla Townie.

You have your voice and your vote.

You win when the Mafia have been removed and at least one townie remains alive.

Lowkey expected to get shot here lmfaooooo.

[JacksonVirgo]

I am fairly disappointed N_M shot RCE over one of JV/AliceK

VOTE: JV

Can we kill this now?

Lmfao

Nobody wanted to actually explain the read to me, so I didn't reciprocate it. And because nobody wanted to explain it, I am scum for not pushing it.

Stop your stupidity

[AliceK]

Kyoko really flipped scum and in addition a doctor. Dwlee is town from this flip for sure. He is not stupid to bus a doctor.

I am actually shocked that I wasn't shot.

[Dwlee99]

Kyoko really flipped scum and in addition a doctor. Dwlee is town from this flip for sure. He is not stupid to bus a doctor.

I am actually shocked that I wasn't shot.

Let's goooo

[AliceK]

Yeah with this flip I have no leads. It's 3 am I will look into the game tomorrow.

[Almost50]

Stop your stupidity

This one earns an explicit FUCK YOU

[JacksonVirgo]

Stop your stupidity

This one earns an explicit FUCK YOU

Love you too <3

[Almost50]

Lowkey expected to get shot here

I am actually shocked that I wasn't shot.

Need I say anything more?

[JacksonVirgo]

Lowkey expected to get shot here

I am actually shocked that I wasn't shot.

Need I say anything more?

How about use your brain

[JacksonVirgo]

Less confident on my Andres read. A50 likely Town as well.

[Almost50]

Lowkey expected to get shot here

I am actually shocked that I wasn't shot.

Need I say anything more?

How about use your brain

Do you even have one yourself? Because if you did, and tried to use it you wouldn't be responding this way.

Like, seriously.. how did you interpret my comment there? What do you think I meant by that?

[Three]

I am fairly disappointed N_M shot RCE over one of JV/AliceK

VOTE: JV

Can we kill this now?

Lmfao

Nobody wanted to actually explain the read to me, so I didn't reciprocate it. And because nobody wanted to explain it, I am scum for not pushing it.

Stop your stupidity

This is just blatantly untrue. The Kyo vote got explained multiple times, even in between her wagon dissolution. You literally responded to and interacted with the case on Kyo. You hopped your votes onto multiple leading wagons except for the one who flipped scum.

Then there's just your god awful ISO.

Spoiler: JV desperately trying to keep Kyo safe

I’m contributing my fair share. Don’t look at me.

This feels slippy, like when you're posting what you're thinking but it betrays a scum perspective
VOTE: fua

JV's saying what I'm thinking but he said it in real time already so very +town there

Pocket accepted

I’m contributing my fair share. Don’t look at me.

This feels slippy, like when you're posting what you're thinking but it betrays a scum perspective
VOTE: fua

JV's saying what I'm thinking but he said it in real time already so very +town there

I did make a joke about a pocket or whatnot about this post but in seriousness I think this style of a read they made is very similar to how I try to read early-on as Town so I'll give this a townpass.

Reads:

Town:
Dwlee
N_M
UglyDuck

Townlean:
Alice
Ythan and Iluvythan? Not sure about these slots.
StD

Null:
A50
Jackson
Andres

Scumlean:
RC
Aaron
Three

Lockscum:
Kyoko

There.

Scum is more likely to post readlists than Town like this as it's content without actual content

Do you disagree with any placements? What do you need clarification on?

Oh my, what an elegant comeback to my shade. Serious O.O

Could you explain the Kyoko read? And how you're reading N_M as you are. The rest I couldn't care less about tbf, for now anyway

VOTE: fua

I did have Andres as a tier above fua, but the reaction to kyouko where they needed to just blatantly throw shade at their slot once the heat pushed up against them is a failed vibe check.

I'm vibing here now. Andres a close second.

Also if Kyoko is scum it clears Dwlee, N_M, and potentially RCE whereas Andres is a low-info flip.

How does it clear these? I don't think Dwee or RCE is scum anyway, so the flip is useless. I doubt it clears N_M at all.

You literally just admitted that you were following the mindset of thinking I’m stupid enough to openly claim scum and have no filter or self control at all, so I should scumread you for the same reason I scumread Kyoko?

And scum wouldn’t kill me

if I didn’t claim

, since prior to this I was such easy miselim bait while Kyoko wasn’t getting any traction whatsoever.

I’m not going to argue with you. Vote Andre if you want, but Kyoko is obvscum.

I think you're taking what's being said completely wrong.

I don't think you're stupid enough to open-claim, because you didn't. You had a perspective-slip if anything, which again doesn't confirm you as scum regardless just makes you look scummier. Slips have nothing to do with intelligence hun.

If you scum-read that aspect of them and if I am doing it as well, then obviously scum-read me as well? Isn't that obvious?

What the fuck my dude. I am asking these questions because I want the game solved like everybody else, you're not helping by getting upset and then just blatantly shading and ignoring literally any point that counters your mindset.

Clean slate. I'll ask a few questions and you can answer them to the best of your ability, good with you?

What about Kyouko's alleged general underwhelming content scummy rather than just underwhelming Town (I also am not saying they're underwhelming I am using your case on them).

Kyouko just isn't scum, or if they are the current reasonings I am hearing is nothing scummy in particular and feels awfully like scum pushed bullshit or cannot be backed up because it holds no actual weight.

I don’t know why Jackson’s was quoted. But I’ll respond to it anyway. Kyoko is scum because their push is limited to one person and is incredibly opportunistic in addition to them not addressing any of my scumread on them at all. They’ve felt very dismissive and lurky and I would be incredibly surprised if they flipped green.

Being tunnelled is not scummy by any means, I used to just hard push one person to the death. It was a bad habit of mine but didn't make me scum.

Your scum-read on them seems very confusing to me, and your explanation of it for when you actually explain it doesn't really explain why they're scummy in comparison to just Town with a different playstyle to you.

It was beginner’s luck.

Wait actually what? This completely betrays a scum mindset - you wouldnt think of this as beginner's luck if you were town. Beginner's luck is when you do something accidentally that helps you succeed. The way JV describes the response as being like, suave (?), like intentionally tricky I guess, and the for fua to say it is beginners luck is like, betraying that fua benefits from that kind of manipulation. They perceive that kind of response as something that is beneficial.to them that they did accidentally, and attribute it to beginner's luck.

Idk, I also might have missed whatever fua had to say about me but I felt when reading about why they say I'm scum, like this doesnt make sense?

I'll vote RCE for deadline if needed but until then I feel good about VOTE: Fua

I just don’t see this post ever coming from a townie. If you look at my pattern from this game (as well as the game that

they hosted

, you’d know that I tend to be very sarcastic and witty. I don’t ‘slip’, especially since I’m not scum.

Slips aren't purposeful and thus you can't say that you wouldn't ever slip, and even if you did that does not make both my own and their read on you to be not based in logic, as it is and if you weren't a PR claimant I would still be pushing you for it.

You cannot just assume people view you a particular way, yet here you are doing exactly that and then basing a read on how you assume people should be viewing you. What

Jackson what's your case on Andres besides the reaction to being scumread?

Overall opportunistic nature from what I am seeing as well as wanting to flat out push the agenda harder once people started backing off of you. Instead of giving even a thought to maybe your slot was town, just straight up pushing an agenda.

Why does Kyoko get a pass for this when their case on me was forced and grasping at straws?

Also: Jackson didn’t necessarily out me? It was my choice to claim early.

Where are they grasping at straws.

I will switch to kyouko if that means enigma survives.

I value enigma over kyouko

I'm fine with either and lowkey think they're just competing SvS wagons. RC trying to split the votes across three wagons at EoD looks bad, and Kyouko shaded both Mozamis and RCE but never voted either and is currently not voting, even though she said she would vote RCE at EoD if Fua's wagon didn't go through.

You honestly actually feel this confident in BOTH top day 1 wagons? Sounds like a formula to just flip two town

If we want to not lim Andres/Kyoko/RC or at least save them to be resolved at night I would be okay with compromising on A50 and letting that sort things out. His pop-in here was incredibly shady.

I'm okay with A50/Andres or if none of those can work. Kyo only to save Enigma as I would rather a null-read of mine dead than a townread.

[Three]

Kyoko really flipped scum and in addition a doctor. Dwlee is town from this flip for sure. He is not stupid to bus a doctor.

I am actually shocked that I wasn't shot.

Just

Dwlee?

Yeah with this flip I have no leads. It's 3 am I will look into the game tomorrow.

HMMMMMMMM

It's almost like...I said this exact situation would happen ...

[Three]

I dont know how I feel about any of this. I just want a flip today.
VOTE: ssbm
Im willing to move my vote anywhere it is needed but have limited availability tomorrow. Since this is the biggest wagon, I'm choosing it for now. Sf there are any major changes, hopefully Im on but good luck if not.

High key Alice's tunnel on me with a seeming lack of awareness of everything else going on in the game just reminds me of Dwlee's scum play in the Opossum mini.

Alice what do you even plan to do if you manage to mislim me? You have almost nothing else going on in the game besides your tunnel on me. You've spent so much time misrepping my posts and arguing in bad faith, you have very little identity and presence in this game outside of that.

I made my catch-up. You are just fitting perfectly into a scum team with A50 considering last few pages.

[Dwlee99]

I don't want to speak for Alice but I do have thoughts on that, three

Let's see if Alice is thinking what I'm thinking

[Three]

Anyway, VOTE: JacksonVirgo because he can't be allowed to go forward after he scum spewed in his ISO. Only a Gunsmith inno would save this slot at this point, and even then I'd rather mislim JV than let the Gunsmith out themself just to save them.