Micro 1032: Baton of Desperation [Game Over]

[Wisdom]

You can give it to me as well

[Wisdom]

yes gimme im a very good townie

[Wisdom]

Hahaha

[Wisdom]

Cheeky town

[Wisdom]

Yeah me and DArby like to do a bit of theatre for the audience whenever we roll scum together.

Fine you can be town.

Disagree here though
This sounds like what id say if i was scum not with darby

[Wisdom]

Darby town

[Wisdom]

No clue, ive never played with vulture

[Wisdom]

Yeah cheeky will give it to me anyway

[Wisdom]

Me too
Last time i played something similar i was scum and didn't enjoy it

[Wisdom]

Or you could not give it to possible scum when we can eliminate them via not giving them

[Wisdom]

Idk why you think isis is town

[Wisdom]

the two players that know me in this playerlist didn't pass to me (:
I am a little

[Wisdom]

Its ok, enchant will do it

[Wisdom]

Only one doesn't get it
If he doesn't, i will

[Wisdom]

Ok isis is town indeed

[Wisdom]

Idk why wisdom townreads me but I know u wisdom I modded a game you played in hi

Unless youre an alt i dont think thats correct

[Wisdom]

Oh yeah then we've also played I believe

[Wisdom]

Is #65 typical Cheeky? What do you see in it? Just provocation?

I feel like the consecutive posts where shes solving have a genuity to them

[Wisdom]

yay

[Wisdom]

I want Margot to play before I give the baton to anyone

[Wisdom]

ratman doesnt look that scummy to me

Why are people scumreading him again?

[Wisdom]

You keep wanting to give it to possible scum huh

[Wisdom]

I wasnt intending to shade you

It was more said in a teasing manner

[Wisdom]

Pretty sure Margot is not avoiding the thread by choice, so I would be giving it to a random replacement

[Wisdom]

Ratman i think

[Wisdom]

Whats wrong with 22

[Wisdom]

Entering a game and calling everything I see town on gut is something ive done a few times, doesnt look like a crime to me

[Wisdom]

Oh shit i didnt realize the time passed

[Wisdom]

Well nothing i can do now, either we get the extension or im dead

[Wisdom]

cool ty

[Wisdom]

Its two scum in micros almost always

[Wisdom]

Mod said they'll give 24 hours after a replacement is found

[Wisdom]

You think? Wording is a little weird tbh

Maybe I'll pass it to be safe

[Wisdom]

I'm bored

HEAL: rat

[Wisdom]

I was townreading rat more than darby

[Wisdom]

Yeah we should wait either way

I just got impatient

[Wisdom]

oh great

yeah i wouldnt mind if pooky was left out

[Wisdom]

Give Pooky the baton bcos I can read him better

Aren't everyone townread Pooky regardless of alignment in every game?

nope

[Wisdom]

Darby > Pooky > Vulture

[Wisdom]

True I will flip scum at some point

Just not in this game

[Wisdom]

Darby

[Wisdom]

HEAL: Enchant

@mod

Thanks

[Wisdom]

nah give it to darby

[Wisdom]

I was just jesting to get reactions out of you because you're hard to read for me
Its pretty appreciated you repd in.

[Wisdom]

Darby > Pooky > Vulture

And you'll actually find I prefer you to Vulture

[Wisdom]

That being said, I'm thinking of giving the final pass to Vulture.

When did you change your mind? Until one point in the game you were all "never ever give it to vulture"

Part of why I wanted enchant to give it to you was to see if you'll change your tune, and you did

[Wisdom]

What do you need from me

[Wisdom]

In 307 where you defended against me having her at last place

[Wisdom]

Yep but until then you had been negative about them, and reacting like that to someone scumreading them was noteworthy

[Wisdom]

Yeah me and DArby like to do a bit of theatre for the audience whenever we roll scum together.

Fine you can be town.

Disagree here though
This sounds like what id say if i was scum not with darby

It's really just this
It striked me as cheeky scum claiming scum-but-not-really
I haven't played with them before so its prolly nothing
But i haven't seen anything to make me think theyre town either

[Wisdom]

"Town slip" is very generous; I wouldn't assign alignment to it. If there's something else that frames the action as towny, though, feel free to bring it up.

I dont expect you or darby to know this but i take scum seriously and wouldnt risk dying to a mechanic like that

[Wisdom]

I agree with pooky that pseudovotes would help

[Wisdom]

I dislike ratman trying to weaken the townreads on me
But I think i want isis dead most

[Wisdom]

huh?

[Wisdom]

Oh yeah, youre right

After two town deaths we'd be at 5 alive so scum holding the baton means they pass it to their buddy and win

[Wisdom]

VOTE: iris

no, i have almost no meta with iris, just a feeling and poe

[Wisdom]

Clemency vote doesn't help either, its the easiest target for scum

[Wisdom]

I dont think they necessarily passed to teammate

[Wisdom]

For example consider Isis+Ratman, which I think is the most likely

Most people had negative feelings about ratman at the time of Isis passing, which would maybe make her hesitate to pass to him

[Wisdom]

Maybe it was better you than vulture/Darby? Who knows

[Wisdom]

I thought isis when i saw the kill
She was the one who interacted with her the most
And ratman sure wouldn't mind since cheeky scumread him

[Wisdom]

Pseudovote count

Isis (2) - rats, Wisdom
rats (1) - Darby
Clemency (1) - Isis

Not psuedovoting: Clemency, Enchant, Pooky

[Wisdom]

Reminder that on D3 we win by limming scum

Not sure if you factored that in in what you said but just saying

[Wisdom]

Let's not miss (:

[Wisdom]

I think all three of us and Darby are town so the only question is who is town in {Isis, rats, Clemency}

[Wisdom]

Why would they be unaligned though, because isis voted clemency?
Because if so rats voted isis too

[Wisdom]

True

Eh okay lets go rats

VOTE: rats

[Wisdom]

how closely are you paying attention to this game

i've been bear or bearish on ratman all game, even if I were scum passing to ratman would be out for the sake of having some semblance of a townie read progression. That eclipses ratman's general approval rating

I dont see how that disagrees with my point
Enchant waa saying that scum likely passed to each other and i was saying why you wouldnt pass to rat if you were scum with him

[Wisdom]

*Intensive scumreading*

Are you okay with rats dying?

[Wisdom]

why everytime i get the stick i have to wait for someone
Where did clemency go

[Wisdom]

Vote who you want dead clem.

[Wisdom]

Pseudovote count

rats (2) - Darby, Wisdom
Isis (1) - rats
Clemency (1) - Isis

Not psuedovoting: Clemency, Enchant, Pooky

[Wisdom]

This is not helpful
The strategy for today is to eliminate someone via vote and then quickpass the baton between everyone else

[Wisdom]

Sigh

HEAL: pooky

[Wisdom]

Agreed with darby

[Wisdom]

no its known

[Wisdom]

. The last player will be eliminated and has to select player, which will commute during following night and become first Baton Holder during following day.

[Wisdom]

I cant chill when i die if i don't pass
Normally we should not be passing until the lim is set

[Wisdom]

prodge too

[Wisdom]

and pagetop

[Wisdom]

Pooky youre dying in 20 mins

[Wisdom]

Isis do you want the baton?

I would give it to you but I am worried you might forget to pass it and that would be t r a g i c

Ironic

[Wisdom]

yes. Clem, enchant, rats left

[Wisdom]

Clem i need you to convince me youre town here and we win

[Wisdom]

We have a max of 4 days for this decision. Its between you and pooky. Darby is town and isis is scum.

[Wisdom]

Though im surprised enchant died over darby

[Wisdom]

If Margot is a town slot then giving it to someone else ups the chance that scum will get the baton. I don’t think it’s fair to town if we rush it.

this stinks a little
I had like 2-3 hours left and Darby encouraged not to rush

[Wisdom]

Give Pooky the baton bcos I can read him better than rand so it improves the game for me to have him here day 2-4

isis-pooky vibes

We would murder her if she passed it to Margot so she couldnt when she had it

[Wisdom]

Darby > Pooky > Vulture

What has Vulture done? I’ve read them as null at best.

Mmm. Probably not Darby/Pooky with this post. Of course later he passed to Pooky instead of Vulture but at this point in time he had no reason to fight the Vulture scumread while he and Pooky are the alternative lims.

[Wisdom]

i feel like pooky is acting townish

and again

[Wisdom]

Pooky AtE's as both alignments but I feel he'd ooversell the texture on it as scum here.

I couldn't be very surprised by a vulture scum flip

third time

[Wisdom]

so rats/clem solve?

i dont see why isis comes out bussing clem if darby wants the elim in me/rats?

and pooky also reciprocated

yep I think we're looking at isis/pooky

[Wisdom]

It's not a contradiction it's just a really weird framing to focus on a minor point when a major point exists

What was the minor and major point here? I still don't understand your thought process

[Wisdom]

ok i think the pseudovoting is cool but please just pass Enchant the button lol

I will read the rest of p18 now

uh huh, isis thought Enchant was very town, that explains the kill

[Wisdom]

Pooky youre dying in 20 mins

HEAL: isis

6m phew

heh I know what Pooky did.

Wait for the last minute to pass to Isis, so we concentrate on that and not that he passed to his buddy.

I'll check if he posted elsewhere that day to confirm this theory, but even if he didn't I feel good about this

[Wisdom]

His last onsite post before 528 is this, 3:30 hours before the deadline

I think it counts

[Wisdom]

oh I will pass to Darby, when my time is almost up, so we have the maximum time to decide between you and Clem

Right now I think your posts are bs and it's you and Isis

[Wisdom]

which i did because consensus was for ratmans lim

ratmans lim is irrelevant. You could have passed to Enchant.

[Wisdom]

it wasnt really consensus
clem wasnt even posting and enchant had not explicitly agreed

[Wisdom]

yeah except those two people are the ones who would get the baton

this is pointless youre scum

[Wisdom]

Have you played with him before?

[Wisdom]

I'm not good at describing people's meta, I just wanted to know if you're townreading him without knowing how he is as scum, which is true

[Wisdom]

You then Clem

Unless you still want to pass to pooky in which case ill go clem first

[Wisdom]

HEAL: darby

[Wisdom]

/shrug

What i know for sure is that isis is

[Wisdom]

Clem did fuckall to convince me and i cant read you for shit without thinking youre evil

So its up to darby to choose

[Wisdom]

gg ty for modding